F. against William Rogers and vilified him to one not related to the people called Quakers taking no care first to speak with him to know what he could say for himself neither hath G. F. cleared himself from being the Author of that scandalous Paper before cited subscribed S. H. though by a Letter written to him the 11th of the 11th Mo. 1678 by Thomas Gouldney William Ford and William Rogers they manifested their jealousie that he was not unacquainted with the Person that writ it and so desired him to advise who it was if he knew saying Truth sought no Corners Thus far the citation out of the aforesaid Manuscript 'T is now worthy the Reader 's notice that G. F. hath written nothing thereto in Answer to this day but hath given a further Occasion of jealousie that he was the very Dictator thereof because it appears that he writ unto John Story with relation to me very much after the same manner and in the same Language mentioned in part of the before cited Letter subscribed S. H. That the Reader 's judgment may be free I think it necessary to insert the very words written to John Story touching me which are as followeth ANd also I do hear that a Book or Narrative is made of our Meeting which we had at Bristol when I was there last and spread up and down Westmoreland Cumberland Yorkshire and the South amongst prejudiced People which was utterly contrary to the Agreement then that no Papers should go forth without the knowledge or consent of both Parties which Agreement was taken down in writing as there at Bristol may be seen and therefore this Practise to the contrary is below Common Moral Men and not for the Society of civil People short of Christianity c. This their Work bespeaks their Spirit A Truce-breaking Spirit a Covenant-breaking Spirit and not to be Credited c. short of Christianity and below some Priests to spread such things behind our Backs in a secret underly way which doth clearly manifest it is not the Spirit of Christ nor Honesty amongst men Thus far G. F. to John Story At the penning of this unrighteous Reproach I cannot but call to remembrance that there have been of G. F's Party who have propesied Withering in Basquet and Store upon me and all that joyn unto that Spirit as the term was 't is well if G. F. hath not spread his ungodly Reproaches against me undeservedly that so thereby my Name and Reputation may be defam'd as a Proper Expedient to bring a withering on my Outward Estate I confess 't is a very likely Expedient if my Commerce were only amongst such as are ready to give Credit to G. F's Scandalous Reproach before cited written unto Joan Hily concerning me in one Letter which seems to be on the same foot as his writing unto John Story as aforesaid is Were his Character concerning me and those whom he accounts concerned in spreading the Narrative made mention of justly applied to me I should then blame no man refusing on that foot to commerce or trade with me And if so be his unjust reproach should have such an Influence as that all should refuse Commerce with me what might become of Me my Wife and Children whom 't is well known I have hitherto comfortably maintained by my Industry as a Merchant and been able to be assisting unto others in my generation May the God of heaven abate the pride of G. F's lofty Spirit that he may cease to make Lyes and Scandalous Reproaches as well as a False Certificate of which more anon his Refuge and Defence For I affirm in the presence of the Almighty God they are Sins whereof he is guilty and in this treatise effectually demonstrated if the Papers spread abroad in his Name and annexed thereto are to be credited as coming with approbation from him which to me is past question being handed by those that are great Espousers of his Actions and Opposers of John VVilkinson and John Story And now forasmuch as I have occasion to know from the words of G. F's Mouth that he accounted me Blame-worthy or Reproveable for securing a part of my Estate though for my Wife and Children out of the Hands of the Spoilers which at length gave me occasion to prove G. F. guilty in a thing of the same Nature which he condemned as hereafter will appear I therefore think needful in order thereto to cite a part of the 15th Section of the 2d part of the before-cited Manuscript which now follows The Reader may now take notice that since the time William Rogers hath been so much concerned in the matters relating to this Controversie Persecution arose at the Meeting whereto he belongs in Glocester-shire viz. Olvestone and to prevent the Informers who raised the Persecution for no other end but to Enrich themselves as is notoriously manifested from making a Prey upon all his moveable Goods in that Place he secured a part thereof which lay without Doors having unsecured Within and Without to the value of about three hundred pounds which lay Subject to the Spoilers at the place of his Residence that so none should suffer either for him or his family On this occasion Reports suddenly spread abroad that William Rogers had now Manifested himself of what Spirit he was of and was so improved by his Enemies under the Name of Friends that he would not suffer a Groat and that others were fined for him if not paid Fines for him which was very false for that he affirms the Fines laid on him exceed ninety if not an hundred pounds and that a part thereof is levyed on his Goods without Doors and never returned but sold away to an Enemy to Friends This we thought Necessary to insert because we do not doubt but that the Cause of Truth hath suffered through the Belief of Lying Reports relating to him for when a Mare of twelve pounds value was distrained from him 't was suddenly Reported that he caused his man to buy her again which was utterly false for that the Mare was sold by the Distrainer to an Enemy to Friends and Truth that kept the Mare for his own Use On this Occasion we think meet to recite a Paper given forth by G. F. touching securing of Worldly Estate in time of Persecution together with an Answer thereto by William Rogers London 4th Mon. 1678. Friends ALL you that do make away or over your Estates to the World or your Servant for fear of the Spoilers in time of Persecution for the sake of Christ and his Gospel and the Worship of God First do not you Distrust and Despair of God Almighty his Protecting and Delivering you with his Almighty Power Secondly Are you sensible that the Earth is the Lord's and the Fulness thereof is the Lord's and that he giveth the Encrease and that how that he may Try you whether your Minds are in the Creatures or with him the Creator And whether is it not
Things have a Tendency to insinuate Submission without Conviction to nurture up Ignorance instead of Wisdom and to introduce Bondage instead of Freedom in Christ as much as ever was under the Cover of a Black-Coat in the Dark Night of Apostacy where this Maxime viz. Ignorance is the Mother of Devotion is known to be true with respect to a Zealous Observation of what the Clergy have imposed and taught What is already signified may give some little Taste of Apostacy or Innovation unto such as have been acquainted with the Primitive Doctrines and Practices of the True Christian-Quaker or Children of Light for so we were called in the Beginning But yet 't is with me a little to treat of one other grand Mark of Apostacy or Innovation viz. Iudging the Merit of a Cause without Hearing the same As before is signified 'T was the Saying of Christ As I Hear I Judge But yet I am a Witness that Ignorance or Envy or that which is worse hath so abounded as that the True Christian-Quaker hath been judged and censured by such as retain that Name but not his Nature when See the Appendix to the Second Part of the Christian-Quaker unheard in the Defence of Himself and the Cause of Truth which he hath stood for When I consider the aforesaid Words of Christ As I Hear I Iudge John 5.26 27. and that it sprang from him who was Partaker of his Father's Life and Power and knew all Things John 16.30 it s to me a real Confirmation that a Pretence to Life Power and Discerning of Spirits cannot be sufficient Plea to justify a Practice contrary to that Example And therefore since I know that such a Pretence hath been the only Plea for that Practice I conclude it no better than the Fruit of Ignorance or Envy or that which is worse Ignorance in those who have believed that outward Ministers are Ordained of God amongst the People called Quakers to See for the Body and Hear for the Body and on that Foot signe and glory in other Men's Lines made ready to their Hands whether they know any thing of the Truth thereof or no. Envy or that which is worse in such an one as hath used both Acquired and Natural Parts from the Strength of Reason Testimonies of Scriptures Arguments from the Light of Christ Citations out of Antient and Modern Writers as well as Examples of Antient Fathers to convince some Professors of Christianity of their Errors and yet imperatively signify To God's Friends every where as before is cited on this wise Let not this Spirit be reasoned with enter not into Proposals and Articles with it but feed it with Iudgment that is God's Decree And indeed the Endeavours of some have taken such an Effect as that the abused Parties Readiness to abide a Hearing before a competent Number of Persons equally to be chosen if any one had Matter of Evil Fact or False Doctrine to lay to their Charge would not be accepted but instead thereof a Persevering to term them dark and rending Spirits without evidencing wherein Which is far short of that Justice which appeared in Festus when he directed the Jewish Informers against Paul to Accuse him of Wickedness if there be any in him These Things considered What ingenious Reader can conclude that Persons so qualifyed are of any better Spirit than those Persecuting Jews were of unto whom the aforesaid Festus on the Behalf of Persecuted Paul said Acts 25.16 It is not the Manner of the Romans to deliver any Man to Dye before that he which is Accused have the Accusers Face to Face and have Licence to answer for himself concerning the Crime laid against him And though the Testimony of Festus runs not parallel with respect to the taking away of the Natural Life yet several Instances might be produced to manifest that there are amongst the People termed Quakers such as practise so far as in them lyes the bringing a Death upon the Good Name and Reputation of the True Christian-Quaker without giving Opportunity to know Whether they pretend to Accuse of Matter of Evil Fact or no. These Things considered puts me in mind to note That one great Part of the Matter of Controversie is touching John Story who in Publick Meeting for Worship hath in my Hearing been accused for a False Prophet and when the Accuser hath been desired to prove him so the Answer hath been He is of a Dividing Spirit and therefore a False Prophet But when in Answer it hath been said as of late it hath Bring forth and prove Matter of Evil Fact or False Doctrine against him and we will disown him then nothing of that Nature hath been brought forth much less proved against him Which considered I rationally infer That such Opposers of the Christian-Quaker whom in this Preface I intend are guilty of one other Mark of Apostacy or Innovation in not admitting to be put in Practice the Rule of Christ when he said Ye shall know them by their Fruits Matth. 7.16 meaning as the Scripture declares such as were False Prophets And that they may the better evade the Rule prescribed as by Christ sometimes affirm That a Good Cause may be ill managed and a bad Cause well managed Thereby insinuating into Ignorant People that though John Story and his Friends have managed their Cause well whil'st their Opposers have managed their Cause but ill yet that John Story and his Friends are Persons of Bad Spirits and their Opposers Persons of Right Spirits And for my own part I no way doubt but that this sort of Argumentation hath become a Defence and Cover for False Certificates Lyes and Slanderous Accusations whereby some have been proselyted to oppose the Truth it self Oh great Abomination If Living Well and holding forth nothing but Sound Doctrine shall not be brought to the Measuring Line of Christ What Defence can there be against a Slanderous Tongue And if Evil Practices and Unsound Doctrine pretended to be publish't in the Name of God shall admit of this Cover he is notwithstanding of a Good Spirit A little Religion and common Sense will give an Understanding of what Absurdities and Gross Darkness may be introduced under those Notions 'T is then easily to be discerned that if the Envy of a Proud Man that seeks Lordship over the Consciences of others do but once put to speak comparatively the Bare-Skin upon the Back of a Friend in Truth there will not be wanting a Company of Ignorant or Envious Persons ready to bite and devour him and to spread abroad Certificates of Defamation Right or Wrong amongst Enemies as well as Friends according to the Example given by G. F. when writing to H. S. R. T. and another Person of Harford he thus said Here is a Certificate enclosed from Two of John Story 's Neighbours who very well know he hath been an Encourager of the Separate-Meeting in Westmoreland which you may shew both to Enemies and Friends with the other
Eminently concerned in the Division threatned should be the Anvil to beat upon and interceded that we would forbear making mention of the Names of Persons reflected on To this the Answer was That it seemed unlikely to bring forth a Credible History touching Religious Differences without naming the Authors of Books Papers and Names of Persons reflected on evidencing the Reality of such Principles Doctrines and Practices which occasioned Disunion and Separation amongst some of the aforesaid People However Truth obliged us to have a Tender Regard unto those who came unto us in Brotherly Love and for the Sakes of such our Desires have been that the Lord might permit us to Bear Forbear and Suffer having a secret Hope that the Lord might make such Instruments in his Hand by a Tender and Brotherly Mediation to cause the High and Lofty to bow to Truth and Righteousness that so the Government of Christ might be exalted in every Heart where his Law is written and that none who make mention of his Name might conclude themselves entred into an Heavenly Possession or Inheritance because of a Strict Observance of some Outward written Order prescribed by Man After we had long born it then more particularly became my Concern to prepare another Manuscript and that chiefly out of the Second Part of what was first prepared in relation to divers Persons concerned in the Divisions to discover that one Man George For guilty of many Things reproachful to the Truth and that because it was and yet is clearly manifested unto me and as I have understood many others that that ONE PERSON hath been the very Chief Instrument or at least an Abettor of such as have whereby a Biting Devouring Spirit is entred in amongst the Flock and yet great Part of the Contention of one Party with another seems to be but about the Shell and not the Kernel My Meaning thereby is about Outward Forms and Methods relating to Marriages Relief of the Poor c. as if Hells Gates must be opened to receive all such as walk not in that Outward Path which in Relation thereto hath been prescribed by that ONE MAN Moreover 'T is observable that before I undertook to prepare the Manuscript relating to that ONE MAN I writ unto him Seven Letters Dated as followeth viz. the 27th of the 1st Moneth 1677. the 3d. of the 10th Moneth 1677. the 4th of the 11th Moneth 1678. the 11th of the 11th Moneth 1678. one other on the same Day signed by Thomas Gouldeny William Forde and My Self one other the 22th of the 2d Moneth 1679. signed by My Self and Three other Friends directed to Him and two Others and one other from My Self only Dated the 6th of the 12th Moneth 1679. manifesting the Ground of my Dissatisfaction with relation to many Things of a Publick Concern amongst Friends as well as Personal Injury which became him to clear or else give Satisfaction And yet to this Day being the 16th Day of the 6th Moneth 1680. I cannot in Truth say That any Answer is come from him to me notwithstanding Messengers were sent unto him on purpose with several of them and Advice given me of the Delivery And though a Paper came once to my Hand in which Mention is made of Two of the said Letters yet I cannot take it to be his Answer but rather as by the Language thereof appears the Answer of another on his behalf and chiefly stuff'd with Queries so that my Concern to expect Satisfaction or Detect him is encreas'd At length when I perceived 't was not probable to obtain what I expected from him by making manifest my Burthen and Exercise either to Him or One or Two whom I supposed he might esteem to be of the Church nor yet from the General Meeting though as I suppose they are esteemed by some though not by all the Representatives of the Church in general I then for the Sakes of many Brethren Travelled in several Parts of the Nation manifesting that according to the Understanding given me of God I had proceeded toward that ONE PERSON G. F. in a Gospel-Method and that if I then should have proceeded to Print against him nothing could be justly laid to my Charge for want of Orderly Proceeding to obtain Satisfaction which hitherto was not given me But yet my Condescension to my Brethren was such as that though the Manuscript relating to him was prepared I very publickly proposed in Writing under my Hand and spread the same abroad directed to Friends in several Counties signifying that if any one of them were free to write unto that ONE PERSON or at least to give this Testimony under their or any of their Hands that since I Charge him to be Guilty of Things reproachful to the Truth 'T is but Just and Reasonable that he should submit to a Hearing thereof before Friends in Truth to the end that if Guilty he may Condemn the same if not he may be Justifyed and I Condemned for Accusing wrongfully I should then forbear Printing against him until such time I should send such a Letter or Testimony unto the Place of his Habitation And if he should be pleased to give Answer thereto on Request to him to be made by the Messenger that should go therewith then my Purpose was as I then declared to Communicate such Answer to Friends that so we might consider further what might be agreeable to Truth to be done on this Occasion One Part of my End in thus doing was To discover whether there be such an Erroneous Principle in any so to stand by a Man charged to be guilty of Things reproachful to the Truth as that he must be exempted though Guilty from the Stroke of that Justice which in the like Cases of Guilt he hath prescribed for others For though the Apostle testifyed That Charity suffereth long beareth and endureth all things yet his Meaning was not that any Member of the Church of Christ of what Degree soever should not be treated withal when over-taken in a Fault else the same Apostle would not have given these Testimonies Gal. 6.5 Every Man shall bear his own Burthen Col. 3.25 He that doth Wrong shall receive for the Wrong which he hath done and there is no Respect of Persons Besides 't is observable from the Scriptures of Truth Rev. 2.2 that 'T was Praise-worthy not to bear Lyars though they might say they were Apostles I now come to inform the Reader that the ensuing Treatise is for the most part Collected out of the Manuscript first made mention of But yet with the Omission of some Marginal Memorials directing the Reader to the several Sections of the Second Part of the said Manuscript that so from Matter of Fact therein contained the Truth of Reflections made and the Reasonableness of Objections raised and that from the Books Writings or Practices of some particular Person or Persons reputed of the People called Quakers might be proved And therefore since it is not thought fit
for the Reasons mentioned in this Preface to Publish the Second Part of the said Manuscript we instead thereof for the Satisfaction of all Friends do declare That 't is ready for the View of any Friend in order to prove the Reasonableness of the Reflections made or Objections raised Having thus premised I now come again to lay down the Three before-mentioned Queries and to give direct Answers thereto Quer. 1. Why hast thou omitted to mention the Names of some Persons and Authors of some Books and Papers reflected on in this Treatise Answ Though I have been reflected upon at an Ungodly Rate by many because I have been concerned to oppose an Erroneous and Persecuting Spirit which I have beheld entring amongst the Flock of God yet Blessed be the Lord he hath so preserved me by the Arm of his Power as that none of my Opposers have so far as I know laid any thing unto my Charge but for Matters wherein I have acted though misrepresented by them to keep a Conscience voyd of Offence towards God And as it became my Concern of Conscience to prepare the Manuscript first mentioned that so the Truth of some Material Matters occasioning or accompanying Division and Separation amongst the People called Quakers might lye on Record at least Vntil an Vnion might again be witnessed So also it hath been my frequent Breathing unto the Lord That I might not bring forth an Vntimely Birth but might so be led and guided in this Affair as that I might Answer the Witness of God in all Consciences And to my inward Peace and Joy in the Lord I can say That I have the Evidence of his Spirit notwithstanding what any Man may say to the contrary that he hath owned my Proceeding therein hitherto And not only so but that there hath been an Answer thereto in many Brethren And as I was seriously waiting on the Lord I became satisfied in my Conscience to forbear reflectingly to mention in this Treatise the Names of many reputed Quakers that as yet I doubt remain deviated in some things from the Line of Truth And I hoped such a Spirit of Mediation and Justice would have appeared amongst some of our Friends who would not be understood to be concerned in the Difference between others as that they might have been a Means to cause G. F. to stoop so timely to Justice as that there might have been no Concern upon me and others to discover any Part of his Errors so publickly as now they are The Considerations occurring in my Breast when I became so satisfied as aforesaid were these First Several of my Brethren as before is premised interceded to forbear and if for my thus doing any should reflect upon me they might as well reflect upon the Apostle's Counsel when he exhorted the Ephesians To submit themselves one unto another in the Fear of God For I was sensible that those who so concerned themselves had a true Sense that the Cause wherein I was concerned was the Cause of Truth On which Foot their Treatment of me was in much Love and Tenderness and forasmuch as I perceived they were not without hope that a little longer Forbearance might work for the better I became satisfied 't was my Place to submit and forbear a while Secondly Though Hardness of Heart hath so overtaken some as that they may still continue to oppose their Brethren in the Truth without the least just Ground or Pretence either from the Light of Christ within the Scriptures of Truth or Right Reason yet I am not without hope that some others concerned against their Brethren in the present Differences may in some time come to a Sense of their Failings and Repent and then either the Memory of their Offence may be blotted out or their Repentance therewith if timely known recorded and that according as Opportunity may permit and Truth require Thirdly 'T is hoped that this Treatise may become a Warning to many but more especially to such as have departed from the Anointing in themselves that they may Repent and turn to their First Love viz. The Appearance of Christ by his Light in them and not in neglect of God's Teachings lye doting on Outward Orders As if that which was promised to be written in the Heart were now to be sought after in Pieces and Scraps of Paper or that the Written Orders of any at this Day should become a Certain Rule through which a Heavenly Possession may be obtained by such as could not own the Scriptures themselves though by the Spirit given forth to be that Certain Rule but instead thereof the Spirit it self to be it And if any think themselves hereby reflected on unjustly because at some Times they have appeared of another Language yet if such by their Fruits have given the Lye to the Offering of their Lips the Deceit is the greater and more worthy to be discovered Fourthly This Treatise is chiefly intended for the Service of the People called Quakers amongst whom the Religious Differences are so publickly known as that I have no Cause to doubt but that the Matters treated on will be intelligible by them though the Names of some Persons and Authors of some Books and Papers be not mentioned However if any amongst them for want of that Publick Converse which others have had shall manifest the least Jealousie that there is no Reason so to Object or Reflect as in the ensuing Treatise I shall then be ready to give unto such particular Satisfaction from Matter of Fact relating to Person or Persons And forasmuch as it was not possible that all Papers and Books which may evidence the Reasonableness of all Objections and Reflections could lye at once in many Hands and are for the most part with me therefore this Treatise is Signed thus By William Rogers on Behalf of himself and other Friends in Truth concerned And so the Names of those others my Brethren concerned with me in this Work are omitted partly because they might not be capable to give a ready and satisfactory Answer for want of the Books or Papers signified of as aforesaid Quer. 2. Why hast thou treated on Principles held forth by the People called Quakers since many Books have already been given forth by some amongst them treating on many if not all of those Things which thou hast done Answ 'T is the Duty of all Christians to clear their Consciences as by the Light of Christ in their Consciences they are directed which doubtless was the Real Ground whereupon many Antient and Honourable Friends already fallen asleep have given forth their Testimony touching the same Principles publickly held forth both by Word and Printing by some other Servants of the Lord before them And if no more were said to this Query it ought to suffice But yet for the Sakes of some I shall lay down the Considerations attending me when I became Conscientiously concerned so to do The Deportment of some Vnruly Women and Ignorant Self-conceited
of the Eternal God who was with the Father before the Foundation of the World was laid is become the Horn of their Salvation and hath brought Immortality to Light in them and revealed that Teacher that can never be moved into a corner and therefore these cannot depend any longer on the teachings of man nor yet on outward Canonical Articles Creeds Directories or Church-Faiths prescribed by man but on the teachings of Christ alone by his Light and Spiritual appearance in themselves to lead and guide unto the Father of life The sound of this Alarm as many can yet witness became a joyful sound to that soul which was hungring after the Lord though piercing as a Dart through the liver to the man of sin so that astonishment and amazement seemed to take hold on many whereby they became a By-word a Mock and a Taunt unto such whose dependencies were on their outward Teachers c. as aforesaid I say again Oh Friends let the Remembrance of this Day come before you and consider further what was the voice of the Eternal Power unto such who were struck with amazement after they believed the appearance of that power whereby they were so struck to be the appearance of the Power of God I well remember the voice was on this wise To your own To your own To your own Meaning thereby that they should turn in their minds to the Light of Christ in their consciences which was declared to be that teacher which could never be removed into a corner that so they might witness the fulfilling of that loud voice uttered by the Angel flying through the midst of Heaven Having the everlasting Gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the Earth c. Fear God and give glory to him for the Hour of his judgment is come and worship him that made Heaven and Earth c. For no doubt but the Spirit of the Lord revealed unto those first labourers in the Gospel that there was a pronenesse in the Sons and Daughters of Men to admire to depend upon and sometimes through an affectionate part or blind Zeal to worship such are were instruments to give forth outward Directories or Church-Faiths For we find that the Apostle tells us of worshipping Angels which are Messengers whom God hath sent by him that intrudes into things which he hath not seen therefore I am perswaded that the voice of Truth through them was not only thus viz. To your own which being observed leads into an independency upon others but also frequently on this wise We preach not our selves look not unto us In the Consideration of these things I cannot but cry aloud in the aforesaid words of the Angel that had the everlasting Gospel to Preach Fear God and give Glory to him And then no doubt but every such one that hath concerned himself to condemn his Brother on no better ground than from the example and prescription of another will come to see that therein he hath not kept to his own and so hath been led into a By and Erring Path. Oh Friends let therefore this cry pass through every heart To our Own To our Own To our Own That is to say to every one 's own measure of Christ's Light or Grace of God Received which the Apostle saith is sufficient with this secret breathing of Spirit unto the God of our lives that all may be thereto retired For if that Counsel might but take place it seems to me that there could then be no room for any to impose or press the observation of other mens Lines upon any which no doubt is one great occasion of the religious differences treated on and not only so but it would mould all who retain the name of Christianity into the very nature thereof and so consequently a reconciliation in the everlasting Truth might quickly ensue For if that Door be but once shut through which variance and disunion entred there may then arise a hope of cessation to such contention and strife as is out of the Truth but if not I may then say how can the effect cease whilst the cause remains I well Remember and many with me that whil'st friends kept to their Own and concerned not themselves to promote a zealous observation of other mens Lines made ready to their hands we then heard not of so much contention strife and debate both publick and private as of late years hath been but since the promotion thereof Confusion Disorder Emulation Malice and Envy hath been its Offspring which hath been manifested by publick unjust revilings against some when zealously contending for the Faith of Gods Elect and though these are of that number that prefer obedience to their own measures of Grace received before obedience to the measures of others yet other some there are who have endeavoured to bring Friends into conformity to the pretended Dictates of the Spirit through others or at best through that one man G. F. before spoken of and that under the penalty of being accounted guilty of Corah's sin for scrupling to conform and thus the variance is like to continue unless the God of Heaven for his Names sake by the Arm of his own Power shall put a stop thereto And forasmuch as I could not but say in all seriousness of Spirit for the clearing of my conscience Let the remembrance of the dayes that are past come before you wherein the Servants of the living God sounded by his trumpet an Alarm to the Nations and that the Servant of the Lord Edward Burrough many years deceased is honourably spoken of by some if not by all of both parties of the People called Quakers at variance one that had the Trumpet of the Lord to sound and hath therewith sounded as a Son of thunder as well as of consolation many Alarm unto the Nations I shall conclude with the citation of a part of an Epistle written by him in the Year 1658. to the Friends of the City of London and so leave the consideration thereof to the Impartial Reader to savour whether according to the sense of his counsel we ought not to know the Spirit of God in our selves to be the ground of all our actions and if so then to practise from other mens Lines without an inward conviction by the Spirit in our selves can be no more accepted as indeed it is not than the offering of the halt and the blind for a Sacrifice under the first Covenant was Here follows the citation out of Edward Burrough's aforesaid Epistle YEa it is peace to the Soul and gladness to the Heart and refreshment to the Life to feel and witness the teaching of the Spirit of the Father leading into all Truth and preserving out of all transgressions wherefore I beseech you all let this be your whole desire and the full practice in your life and then shall the Countenance of the Lord shine upon you and his face shall make you glad if in all things you look unto
on this wise Choose from amongst you the faithfull yet such a limitation we have cause to believe will not now be born by some 't is well if the ground thereof in our opposers be not to bring in the multitude if they can and that under a pretence that all Friends in Truth may have free access that so the Generality may be on their side for of late Mens Meetings are known to consist of many such who if any ought to be Governed are much fitter to be Governed then appear as Governours and who we are well satisfied in our Consciences would of themselves be more modest than to appear in such Meetings as Governours were they not prompted to be there The secret end thereof as we have cause to doubt is for the carying on that which we believe Truth will never own And as to the Apostacy never entering the generality more we say may the Lord preserve us all so stayd in his Unchangable Truth as that we may never apostatise from it nor be drawn away from the hope of the Gospel by false Prophets and seducing Spirits for we do firmly believe that as many of those who formerly were in the Truth and do now account us Dark Spirits because we cannot be at Unity with them in such actions as we account Persecution against antient Brethern are already Apostatized and doubtless they with their adherents account themselves the generality yet we hope better things than so We now come to say somthing to these foregoing words viz. That in London and other part of this Nation where such Meetings where usually held the sense of the Generallity hath been taken for the sense of such Meetings To this we answer if thereby is intended that the generality may claim power to declare that their sense is the sense of the Meeting it opens a Door whereby the Reputation and Honour of Truth as Profest owned and practized amongst the Freinds thereof may fall in one day For when these Meetings were assented unto we cannot say establisht by any man we lookt upon our selves all Servants one unto another and not Masters and Rulersover one another and so had then no occasion given us to discourse of Authority but when there was we well Remember that we ascribed all Authority unto the appearance of the invisible Power of God and so no encouragment was given by us that any one Man or Men should take upon him or them to Rule and Govern in such Meetings but our expectations were that every Member should there appear in subjection to Christ the Head and higher Power unto which as Members of his Body we owe Obedience In this sense we readily embraced the Counsel to Meet together to Serve but not to Bear Rule over one another's Consciences and the matters intended by us to be transacted in those Meetings and by others also as far as we understood were chiefly To take care of the poor the fatherless and the widdow And that if any professed the Truth and dishonour'd the same by prophane and evil Conversation we might by such ways and meanes as the Lord on every occasion might direct not then thinking that the day would ever come wherein an Outward Directory should be placed as a Judg over our Consciences Indeavor to reclaim such from the Evil of their Ways and for these Services we are sensible that Meetings are proper and therefore do continue in the services thereof yet never thought that we should have seen the Day wherein any professing the truth would have attempted to treat on such a Subject as this viz. How far doth this Government extend in matters Spiritual and purely conscientious and not only so but be approved as the aforesaid Book of Government wherein the said sentence is written hath been by a Meeting that takes upon them to take Care as they pretend that nothing be Printed whereby the Truth may be dishonour'd Alas Friends can such appear to us as men staid in the Unchangable Truth who have suffered and highly contended for Liberty of Conscience and that Christ alone is Lord over it and is its only Lawgiver and yet now reckon that Mens-Meetings which we or at least several of us do know having been much conversant therein even from the begining to this day have most usually consisted of Men Vncertain in Numbers as well as to Qualifications and Persons may assume a Power over Conscience under the Notion of the Church of Christ Truly Friends we cannot but testify that our Souls have no Unity with such things and cannot but look upon the Promoters thereof as Lovers of Preheminency more than Lovers of God having let in a dark seperate rending dividing Spirit from the Truth and opened a Door whereby as great Darkness may be brought over the People As ever was in any Age under the profession of Christian Religion Objection But perhaps some persons may thus Object We cannot but have more Charity for some at least of those who are concerned in these things you strike at and cannot believe they intend an imposition on any of our Consciences for when we have been in Meetings with them we have been Witnesses that the Life hath been raised and our Souls have been refreshed through their Ministry and in their Epistles they tell us how eminently the Lord appears amongst them unto which we cannot but give Credit because when they are with us the Life in us answers to the Life in them as Face answers Face in a Glasse but when those whom they oppose do speak then Deadness Dryness and Barrenness appears besides many of the Ministring Friends have exhorted us and as they say in the Name of the Lord that we ought to shut out Jealousies the Reasoning and the Wisdom telling us as before is hinted That the Apostacy shall never enter the generality more and that we ought to have an eye to the Brethren Answ This Objection may seem very weighty with some especially such who may conclude that if they are of the true Brotherhood the Lord will give them an inward sense when they wait upon him whereby a Testimony according to the Truth may arise from them in every Case wherein they may Concern their thoughts but alas 't is either the fruit of Weakness or Presumption so to conclude with respect to every Brother in what estate soever which hath been sufficiently evidenced to us by the Fruits of those who have taken upon them to Judge the Merit of a Cause without hearing of both Parties of which more anon Besides if we do but consider that the Scriptures of Truth do testify there are diversities of Gifts diversities of Administrations and Operations and yet by the same Spirit it were sufficient to prompt us to be so Serious and weighty in this day of Tryal as to be found waiting every one in his own Gift that so all may be preserved and not meddle with things that are too high for them He that is not
Spiritual Guide and Teacher which is infailible and cannot be removed into a Corner with confidence then may we conclude that none such will ever more boast of the possession which they have taken as Heirs of the Gospel with respect to things that are without Secondly As to this part of the aforesaid Objection viz. that nothing but Dryness Deadness and Barrenness appears in those who are opposed by such with whom thou art at Unity we say This seems not strange unto us for the Apostle thus Testifies We are unto God a sweet Savour of Christ in them that are saved and in them that perish to the one we are the Savour of Death unto Death and to the other the Savour of Life unto Life This give us occasion to put every one that has or may Judge the sound form of words to be Deadness Dryness Barrenness especially when Springing from such whom thou hast known to be in the Life upon this search is not the reason thereof because I am watching for evil and have let in a Spirit of Prejudice believing an evil Report when perhaps it may not be Truth If this be thy State we must plainly tell thee they are the very Tokens of a Perishing Condition and then though it be the Word of Life that is Preached yet it can be no other according to the Testimony of the Apostle but the Savour of Death unto thee Besides we have this further Observation to make that some at least of those thus Testified against as Dead Dry and Barren are chiefly such unto whom God hath given a Portion of Understanding above many of their Brethren and have and yet do as far as ever we know appear Sound in Doctrine and as blameless in Life and Conversation as any friends we have ever known and so cannot run with the Current of the Times we desire therefore that every one of the Opposers of or Judges over such will yet more thoroughly search their own Consciences and in a Godly Jealousy over themselves put these queries unto their own hearts and try things in the equal ballance Have not I many times heard Unsound Doctrines and beheld Disorder and Confusion brought forth even in Publick Meetings for worship by those who cry against Dark Seperate Spirits and yet not been a Reproof thereto Concluding notwithstanding that there did a Freshness and Life appear Have not I been often affected with an Outward Tone and strength of Lungs when there hath been little to the Information and Building up one another in the most Holy Faith Have not I been better Contented to hear a Thundering kind of Voice Crying out against a Seperate Spirit though without Distinction when not a word was spoken to shew the Way to the Kingdom than to hear the Way of Eternal Life Plainly Demonstrated by a soft and moderate Voice We know there is great cause for many to put these questions to their Consciences and to be cool in Spirit that so they may have an Answer from the Lord whose appearance is not in the strong winds but in the still Voice SECT IV. An Answer to the Third Position deducible from an Objection raised toward the Conclusion of the first Section viz. That 't is Folly and Hipocrisy to profess our selves Members of the True Church and yet not Believe thus as the True Church Believes TO this we say we are altogether dissatisfied especially when we consider what a Body of darkness hath entered under the Belief of this Position we must believe as the Church believes amongst the Professors of Christianity in Ages past as well as at this present Day that such Language can become the mouth or pen of any one that professeth not only Faith in Christ but also that such his Faith is grounded upon the Inward Manifestation and Revelation of Gods Spirit in himself mark we say in himself Those who are accounted Apostate Christians have from such Assemblies which they call their Church set forth their Creeds by which it may be known what the Members of their Church do and ought to Believe and since 't is so that no Person is able to make out that ever any Assembly under the Notion of the true Church amongst the People called Quakers have published their Creed by which we mean a certain number of Articles of Faith recommending them as those things which every Member of the true Church ought to believe or else not be accounted a Member of the true Church we cannot account it unreasonable if any one that liketh not the Language touching Believing as the true Church Believes should ask the Publisher thereof this Question Hast thou not spoken this with respect to the People called Quakers as those whom thou accountest the True Church And if so is it not folly to talk of believing as this Church believes when no assembly under the notion of this Church have to this day declared and published their Creed for the ends aforesaid Nay may it not further be said we know how Papists and Protestants describe their Church but at the day wherein that which occasions this present discourse was given forth it was not discovered by any reputed Quakers publickly in Print that we know of who or were the true Church is with respect to visible persons more than what is to this effect given forth by the Author occasioning this present discourse viz. That the People called Quakers are the Church Wherein we do not take his meaning to be that all called Quakers were the Church of God but the Elect amongst them for he also saith The Church signifies the Elect and so the Reader is left without any certain Description who or where this Church is with respect to visible Persons since the Elect amongst them are not outwardly described For the clearing of the Truth and the opening of the Understandings of such as may be muddled about this matter 't is with us thus to Testifie 'T is well known that it pleased the Lord to reach unto many of our Consciences at the beginning of this latter Day that hath dawned amongst us whereby we came to Believe in the Everlasting Light of the Lord and as others held forth the Visible Orders and Written Faiths of a Visible Church to be as a Lanthorn to their Paths and as a Ground of their Faith so this Light of Christ was preach't up as a Lanthorn to our Paths and as the Ground of our Faith and then as our Understandings came to be more and more opened we clearly saw that as other Churches had outward Marks and Tokens whereby a man might manifest himself to be a Member of their Church when received into Society with their Church so we who had Believed in the Light of our Lord Jesus Christ and had the Evidence in our selves that we were of the true Brotherhood and Members of Christ's Body were at a loss infallibly to manifest unto others by any Outward Marks or Tokens that we were in
seems to Glory in suffering their goods to be taken away and to speak in their Language account it the Fruit of a Dark Spirit to endeavour to save any though but from the thirst of Informers occasioning Persecution meerly to enrich themselves we cannot but Query Whether it be not more Christian like so to act according to ones plain Perswasion than to contend so much for offering upall yet after taken away to use divers means to get it again sometimes by Law open-faced as in the case of Appeals and sometimes by private and Secret Solicitations wherein not only Time and Breath is Spent but as is credibly reported the Purse opened too as some of our Opposers have done We shall now return and consider what in probability may be Objected touching the sufficiency of Gods Grace c. as in the next following Section SECT VI. On the occasion of an Objection raised touching the sufficiency of Gods Grace Unity is treated on from the words of Paul to the Corinths that they should all speak one thing Touching the Word Independency occasioned by a Publick Preacher That leaving Friends to the Grace Light and Spirit of God is not the way to lead into Rantism Objection T Is true may some say this Doctrine of exalting the sufficiency of Gods Grace squares with the Principle of Truth as Preach't amongst us in the Beginning and it had then and still hath an Answer in our Consciences but now several of those who have been Instruments to gather us increase in the Knowledge of the Mind of God and they now tell us that they doubt if there be no care taken to preserve an Vnity amongst the Professors of Truth Friends may be scattered and broken and run into a Seperation c. for did not Paul exhort the Corinthians that they should all speak one thing 1 Cor. 1. 10. Answ To this we answer that when Paul came to understand that the Church at Corinth were some for Paul and some for Apollo and some for Cephas and some for Christ there was great need for him on that Occasion to exhort them to speak one thing lest their Faith and Hope in the Gospel might come utterly to be destroyed did those who cry against such whom we account Faithful Friends as dark Spirits and plead so much for Unity and to speak one thing exhort those who were apt to pin their Faiths on an Apollo a Paul or a Cephas to be for Christ we should think it good Exhortation therein to speak one thing and that which would cast a great Line of Reflection on those Ignorant Zealots who of late Days have much exhorted us to have an Eye to the Brethren in which 't is evident to us their meaning is to some particular Brethren whilest others ancient and honourable are dispised by them Besides we cannot on this occasion but observe that the same Paul doth sufficiently evidence his dislike of any Plea for Unity save that of the Spirit in the Bond of Peace And though he exhorts to Unity Ephes 4.3 yet Vers 7. he saith But unto every one of us is given Grace according to the measure of the Gift of Christ which clearly evidences to our Consciences that Paul never intended to magnify any * 1 Cor. 12.7 1 Cor. 15.10 Unity amongst Brethren but that which might be the natural product of this gift of Grace or manifestation of the Spirit as given to every one according to measure to profit withal and whereby they might in the language and according to the example of the Apostle Paul say each unto other By the Grace of God I am what I am We are yet sensible that another Objection may still arise Obj. What then are you for an Independency Yes verily we are for an Independency that is to say * Some may wonder why we raise this Objection but doubtless 't will come to the view of one and not a mean one too who manifested his doubt that some of us intended an Independency not to depend on the Counsel of one man nor yet to depend on the counsel of General Quarterly or Monthly Meetings but as there is sufficiency in the Grace of God that is given unto us to profit withal so to have a Dependency on that Grace to teach didirect and instruct in all things relating to the In ward man of the heart knowing that it s against the nature of that Principle in which we have believed to have a dependency on any thing that is Outward lest it prove unto us like the Reed of Egypt and Arm of Flesh that cannot save but yet we are not against appointed Meetings for the Outward services of Truth for that hath been and is our practice knowing that there may be a service therein as occasion offers provided all in such Meetings may be kept in humility as servants each to other and the Truth not exercising Lordship over the Conscience which is Gods Prerogative nor yet exalting themselves as if thereby they were entred into that Possession which can never be taken from them Object We are now sensible that some may be ready thus to say we can scarsely believe that any man of weight and under the name of one that may be accounted by any a faithfull Quaker would give occasion for such a discourse as this occasioned on the word Independency for that many may be apt to say 't is the Language of an Hypocrite that hath outward Power to uphold it because some who are accounted seperate from it are called Independents Ans This occasions us to signifie that * Note his Name is omitted for the reason in the Preface an eminent Person writing to Friends in Wiltshire by way of Reply to an Answer they gave to the Paper from Ellis Hooks his Chamber signed by Charles Marshall and sixty five more against two ancient and honourable Friends in truth viz. John Story and John Wilkinson c. thus repeats part of the words of the Friends of Wiltshire And what if we in this County or any Friends elsewhere should say to any of you of London or other Cities or Countries as to our Publick Concerns in the managment of our Affairs * Note Though 't is recited meddle not with us yet the very following words are thus unless concerned but if the Word of the Lord be really with any of you we are ready to hear it which being left out by the replyer we appeal to the righteous Judge whether he hath not therein acted notoriously unjust since there could not have been the least Pretence for him to have written as he hath on that Subject had the whole Sentence been repeated Meddle not with us if we should so say unto you we cannot think that this is of the nature of Imposition having no Penalty annexed thereunto neither do we understand theirs to be any otherwise These words being thus repeated the Replyer proceeds and gives this Answer To this I
by the same Rule He that savours the things of God may easily perceive that the meaning of the Spirit through Paul unto those Philippians was that those who were come to a state of Perfection should walk by that Rule whereunto they had attained but those who had not attained so far and were otherwise-minded were to wait for the Revelation of the Son And now to conclude as to this Objection we have this further to add that we do know many of our Opposers or at least such who are not at Unity with us have very confidently made use of such Discourse as is contained in the last recited Objection to induce us to follow outward Prescriptions and Orders though not convinced of its service which occasions us to be Jealous that in process of time the enemy may so enter in at this Door as that Darkness may more generally overshadow again than it yet doth though our Hope in God is that he will lay such a constraint on many of those whose Eyes are open beholding the approached Apostacy as that they may be raised in a sense of Gods Indignation and appear as Lyons on the behalf of the Lyon of the Tribe of Juda to oppose every appearance of that Spirit which would be exalting Self or any Form Observation Prescription or Order to be as a Bond on the Members of Christs Body when by the Light of Christ their alone Lawgiver they are not fully perswaded thereof in their own Consciences which undoubtedly was the meaning of the Spirit through Paul when he writ unto the Romans Chap. 14. Vers 5 23. Let every man be fully perswaded in his own mind For whatsoever is not of Faith is Sin And to come a little closer to the matter in hand 't is too too evident that Non-conformity to Outward Prescriptions is taken as a mark of Apostacy even amongst those who have Been under the profession of Truth of which many instances too too Large here to insert might be produced which is now forborn because we suppose there are very few amongst the People called Quakers for whose sakes this is chiefly written who are ignorant of the Truth hereof Besides it hath been an Observation of late that these Questions or Questions to the like import have been frequently askt by such with whom we cannot be at Unity in all things viz. Are you for Womens Meetings Meaning distinct Womens Meetings from Men amongst whom Under Pretence of taking care of the Poor another thing seems to be more chiefly aimed at as anon will be made appear Are you for Recording Condemnations Meaning thereby whether the Partyes who have Condemned their Failings and through the Mercies of the Lord have been restored and their Officence blotted out and forgiven by him assent thereto or no. Are you for settled Monethly and Quarterly Meetings touching Outward Business since those who would have Meetings as occasion offers are accounted Designers to through down all Meetings for Outward Business relating to the Affairs of Truth And when these or such like Questions have been a skt of Friends in Truth that could not Answer thereto Yea we are sensible that it hath been taken by many as a sufficient token of a Dark Leavened Rending Dividing Spirit and meerly as we take it form an apprehension that the Form they stand for is thereby struck at though the Services would be effectually performed in another method as experience in the Counties of Westmoreland and Wilts hath of late testified for were it not so that great stress is laid upon the Outward Form of things prescribed to be practised how comes it to pass that J. S. was articled against by Robert Barrow and twenty six Persons more in the north on this wise viz. J. S. speaking amongst many Friends of the Danger of Forms because of the Consequences that might follow said that amongst the Christians of Old the Differences that did arise was about Forms which could not be seasonable words when we were establishing the Churches in the Holy Order of Truth Much more might be collected from the Articles being forty four in number exhibited by Robert Barrow and twenty six Persons as aforesaid to shew how earnestly and zealously the very Outward Form of things are contended for which occasions us in all seriousness of Spirit thus to say May the Lord God of Heaven and Earth so preserve his People that they may not be ensnared by those who have raised so great Contention about the Outward Forms of things prescribed to be practised amongst the Professors of Truth lest they with them prove to be Boasters proud Blasphemers false Accusers Despisers of those that are Good which are the very Marks and Tokens of those who had a Form of Godliness but denied the Power thereof from whom the Apostle Exhorts to turn away and how far these Marks rest upon many of those who so earnestly contend for their Outward Forms we leave to the Impartial Reader with the Light of Christ to Judge when he hath thorowly informed himself of their Fruits Oh Friends the serious Consideration of these things bows us before the Lord and in a Sense of his Mercies to us we can no longer keep silent but in his Fear declare that our Consciences are concerned for the Cause of God and his Truth and since it is so that an ill use is made of that Spirit of Forbearance and Condescension which we are sensible hath been used by many of our Brethren it is now become our Portion to unburthen our selves of that which hath been our Burthen believing that the Lord is not only arisen but will yet more and more arise against that Spirit that would exalt it self over the Heritage of God endeavouring to rule over their Consciences whenas Christ alone is Lord thereof It may now be worthy our Observation to consider whether any Encouragement was given by our Lord and Master Christ Jesus whilest on Earth unto his Disciples to become Rulers one over another We find that he Exhorts his Disciples Judge not that ye be not Judged be not ye called Rabbi for one is your Master even Christ And all ye are Brethren but he that is greatest amongst you shall be your Servant and whosoever shall exalthimself shall be abased and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted Here is no ground to believe that Christ Intended that when he was departed his Disciples should be exalting themselves one over another as Governours and Rulers and if we consult the Scriptures of Truth we shall find that though his Disciples had a Dependency upon him whilest in his Bodily Appearance to be their Leader yet he tells them John 16.7.13 It is expedient for you that I go away for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you but if I depart I will send him unto you and he will guide you into all Truth for he shall not speak of himself Had it been so that Christ Jesus intended the
all Men were to praise him or to speak of his Wonders for they were altogether past finding out then I wept greatly and desired only that he would permit me to sit at his Feet and he swore unto me by himself That he would deliver me from all my Troubles within without and truly it was his own free Promise for I durst not ask it of him but was contented to have waited still in my Sorrowfull Condition all the Days of my Life that I had to spend amongst Men. But what shall I say I am contented with his Will and rest at his Feet Friends I am constrained by the Spirit of Endless Love to warn you all that you may forbear Judging of any Man any more upon any Pretence whatsoever but commit all Judgement to the Son for he cryeth in me that he will shortly appear with righteous Judgment upon the Earth and Wo was upon him that hath took upon him to sit upon my seat of Judgment and hath not Judged Righteously for the same Measure that he meeteth shall be met to him again for whosoever I find upon my seat of Judgment when I come if he be not as I am Holy Just and Mercifull without any mixture him will I destroy with the Breath of my Mouth for he is as unclean Smoak before me Therefore Dear Friends let all Unrighteousness be far from you for thus saith the Voice in me Whosoever I find in Envy the same Envy shall be his Torment and whosoever in Covetousness or in Pride or any unclean Mind that same shall be their Cloathing and they shall stand behind me and all that is with me having no other Garment but their own Filthyness For the Envious shall have their Envy for their Reward and the Covetous shall have his Covetousness and whatsoever his work shall be here that shall be his covering when I appear Therefore all People mind your own Souls and let nothing but what is like the same Holiness Righteousness Mercy and Love without respect of Persons in any-wise appear and let Covetousness be far from you and be you as he was in this World that you may be like him in his Glory for verily you cannot be like him in his Glory further than you are in his Nature of Holiness Therefore all Friends look into your Hearts and let no spark abide there of the old nature for if there be it will drive you to look out at others and in that time 't will gather Strength and kindle a great Fire in you which is not easily put out which many at this day may know Edward Burroughs Though many things are very worthy notice from the above-cited lines given forth through the Servant of the Lord Edward Burroughs and obvious enough to many yet for the sakes of some 't is thought meet to take notice of two particular Matters which seem very pertinent on this Occasion First That some of the young unlearned Dogs not well acquainted with the Masters Manner in gathering the Sheep did run from the Flock with fierceness after the Sheep that staid behind and did affrighten them and bite some of them neither would they be led nor yet stay at home but would always be going abroad and barking at the Lambs to affrighten them being ready to devour them for there was something of the Nature of the Wolf in them and them the Shepherd bound up in Chains to fulfil his purpose on them Secondly That some of the Dogs well acquainted with the Masters Manner did wisely goe behind the Sheep and such did drive them gently along without hunting of them or wearying themselves From these two Citations out of the aforesaid Paper we may learn that the Spirit of the Lord thorough his Servant hath in a Parable very lively described a part of what hath happened amongst the Flock of God in these latter Days for of certain knowledge we can say that there are such as are learned in the School of Christ who being well acquainted with Christ Jesus their Lord and Masters Manner of gathering the Sheep do not over-drive the Flock nor yet weary themselves for meer Vanity and there are also the Unlearned who are not acquainted with the great Masters Manner in gathering the Sheep and these in a great Measure have occasioned the Encrease and Continuation of Division amongst the People called Quakers by their fierce contending for an outward Unity and Conformity with respect to Forms of Government in the Church so that they seem not only ready to bite but also to devour others that see not clearness in themselves to practise according as they in their hunting Spirit would as much as in them lies constrain and inforce Nay there are some not only unacquainted with Christ Jesus's Manner of gathering the Flock like a Shepherd that gathers his Lambs in his Armes and gently leadeth them that are with Young but also have laid blame on such as have exactly Walked in his Footsteps And indeed so Foolish and Confident have some been that the masters manner of gathering the Flock hath become as a By-Word or a Mock and not only so but Matter of Evil Fact in the sense of some Witness the Forty Four Articles Relating to Church-Government drawn up against J. S. and J. W. two Ancient and Honourable Friends in the Truth a part whereof is for that they should say THEY WOULD NOT HAVE FRIENDS OVER-DRIVEN To Conclude We also know that some of these have been by the Spirit of Truth Reproved as not fit to say they speak in the Name of the Lord When the Lord hath not spoken by them nor yet to appear as if they were sent of God to gather the Flock or to Proclaim themselves Keepers of other Folks Vineyards when they have not kept their own Vineyard by which it appears that the will of the Lord touching such hath been that they should Hearken unto the Word of Reproof and be led by his Spirit which if they had they would have stay'd at home until they had been Instructed and Learn'd in the School of Christ but yet notwithstanding some have contrary hereunto gone abroad and their great Work hath been to cry out against Honest Friends under the notion of Dark Spirits levened Spirits Troublers of Israel Corah's Judases c. just like unto those Young Unlearned Dogs signified in the Parable that would not be led but would be going abroad and Barking at the Lambs to affrighten them being ready to devour them for as in the Parable 't is said there hath been something of the Nature of the Wolf in them But Blessed be the Lord many are Witnesses that of late some of them have been as in Chains and Fetters of Iron so that they are not able to Prey upon those who are upon the Rock Christ who doubtless in his own time will fulfil his Purpose on them Oh! that all Concern'd herein at this Day would seriously Consider Proceed no farther in
which they could not as they have declared in Conscience consent unto did at length forbear to joyn with such on the Dayes of monethly and quarterly Meetings which were understood by us to be first assented to we cannot say unalterably establisht to relieve the Poor and take care of any other outward concern relating to the affaires of Friends as a Society gathered into the Everlasting Truth Abhorring Lord-ship over one anothers Faiths or Consciences But yet the Persons so refusing to joyn with others as aforefaid did as we have been credibly informed on convenient Times and Days appoint by themselves to meet together to take care in that method wherein they found Freedom in the Truth of the same services for which Monethly and Quarterly Meetings were first Understood to be appointed This by the other Party was called a Seperate Meeting and the Meeters accounted Dark Leaven'd Rending Dividing Seperate Spirits so that at length a Paper was given forth and subscribed by Robert Barrow and Sixteen Persons more Belonging to Nine Meetings for Worship of God wherein they thus declare And we being sensible of the great trouble and dissatisfaction in the Church of Christ throughout this Nation concerning this said Seperation we do therefore with one consent and at our several Meetings respectively signifie our Absolute dislike thereof and we do hereby in the fear of the Lord discharge all those concerned in the said Seperate Meetings in our Affaires as they stand in the Seperation and we do declare that as such a Meeting they have no Right to act in the Church Affaires in the Capacity they are in but we do hereby signify our Absolute Refusal to Submit any of our Affaires either relating to the Poor or otherwise to the Ordering of the said Seperate Meetings but do submit them to our Establisht Monethly and Quarterly Meetings aforesaid for Westmore-Land so far as our affaires are concerned therein to be Ordered as in the Wisdom of God and Unity of his Spirit they shall see meet From these fore-going Lines we observe That though the Giver-forth thereof do not positively say that the submission of ones Affairs without restriction to Temporal or Spiritual Affaires to the Establisht Monethly or Quarterly Meetings shall for the future be an Outward Mark to know a Member of the Church by or at least to distinguish such as are not Members of the Church yet who can but reasonably suppose that such a Meaning is their Meaning or at least the Meaning of him or them chiefly concern'd in drawing up the said Paper and promoting Subscriptions thereto since 't is Plain from the very Words cited that others concerned in the Seperate Meetings who have declared that for Conscience sake they cannot Submit to them have no Right to act in the Churches Affaires and not onely so but that they take themselves to be invested with Authority as to us appeares by using the Word Discharge for no one can Discharge another in any case without Power so to do And if we do but consider that the taking care of the Poor is one part of the Churches Affaires from which those of the Seperate Meeting are Discharged or declared to have no right to act in it seemes to us extreamly Unchristian-like for if it were so that they had been overtaken in a fault that can be no sufficient ground to declare that they have no right to administer their Charity to the Poor Members of the Church because the taking care of such is Commendable in any Society of People whatsoever Many other things might be observed from the said Paper subscribed by One Hundred Sixty six Persons which at present we here omit being largly treated on in the 19th Section of the Manuscript first made mention of in the Preface which is ready for the View of any Friend that may be Desirous to peruse the same However the Remembrance of the Paper subscribed by Charles Marshall and Sixty Five more at Ellis Hookes his Chamber already cited together with this last mentioned subscribed by Robert Barrow and One Hundred sixty five more Occasions this farther Addition That it seemeth to be the Fruit of some Design to exalt one Man above measure and not only so but unjustly to defame others as by Answers thereto have at large been manifested according as in several Sections of the aforesaid Manuscript appeares and we may truly say that what is already cited doth manifest but little less than such a Design for if a Conscientious slighting of George Fox's Pretended motions with respect to Formes of Church-Government imposed contrary to Faith and a Charitable Belief that he intended not to urge his Papers relating thereto on any of Gods Faithfull People with severity which is no less than an Inforceing but as Instructions or Directions commended them to the Churches leaving the Effect thereof to God and his leading Grace in his People to make use thereof as he should manifest a need of such Directions Counsel or Advice as before is cited be by a part of the said Subscribers reputed such matter of Evil Fact as that the Person concerned must be severely Testified against under the term of a Dark Spirit in Confusion it clearly shews a Design of unjust Defamation unless a Blina-offering under the Gospel may be accepted though condemnable under the Law And as to the seeming design of exalting one man 't is to us very evident and past all maner of Question as one evidence amongst many others that might be given we shal from what is already cited thus observe that a Submission is signified to some certain Monethly and Quarterly Meetings pretended to be establisht But if the Reader enquire of whom they consist the Answer in Truth is of those and of such like-minded with them as drew up the Forty Four Articles against John Wilkinson and John Story whose Declared Judgment is from the import of that Article already cited against John Story that what Gorge Fox hath given forth as a Rule or Form of Church-Government was so given Forth by him from an Heavenly Motion that such his Motion was pretiously felt and closed with in the Vnity and ought not to be slighted and for asmuch as Matters in those Meeetings are managed according to those Rules and Forms of Church-Government * Witness expressions frequently urged to this purpose when Friends being met about Outward Concernes of Truth have not agreed see what George Fox's paper saith it doth thence follow that the Submission spoken of clearly centereth in a Submission to G. F. and the name of Monethly and Quarterly Meetings we therefore reasonably take to be but as a Conduit to convey it to him and well would it be for him if he were clear of a Persecuting Spirit against some that cannot submit unto him in the Form and Method which others have The sense of these things hath occasioned in much seriousness of Spirit before the Lord this Enquiry What is that bait
which the enemy of the Soul of Man hath spread before him since his first coming forth to Preach the Light c. to concern himself so much as he hath against some that cannot own an urging with severity his Directions or Prescriptions on Gods Faithfull People and in Particular to appear a Persecutor of such which can certainly be proved against him if endeavouring unjustly to take away a mans Good Name and Reputation can be termed such To this the Answer is As the Serpent beguiled Eve so Eve beguiled Adam in prevailing upon him to eat of the Forbidden Fruit which she had eaten and the Argument used by the Serpent to tempt Eve was this Ye shall be as Gods Even so are we persuaded that there hath not been wanting unto him to speak comparitively a tempting Eve which hath been too aspiring after such a State which with respect to humble self-denying Persecuted Members of Christs Church is neither fit nor presidented and yet 't is to be doubted that this aspiring Mind hath had so much place with him as that he hath taken too much upon him which hath occasioned Rents and Divisions amongst the flock and sometimes to pretend that he hath seen things in the Vision of the Almighty which hath been no other than the Imagination of his own Heart and having given way thereto and finding a fear upon Friends thorough a tender respect unto him to Judge or dislike what he might bring forth under pretence of the Motion of the Spirit it in Probability encreast his Confidence especially when he considered what had been written unto him by some Friends in the Day of their Infancy which being in such Language as was suitable to an aspiring mind might tend to his hurt At length his fame grew so great as that amongst some Weak Friends it became even as a Proverb that none would prosper who should oppose him This by others hath clearly been seen to be a subtil way to obliege all such as should so believe to be Servants to his Will and for ought we know this Perswasion hath the more easily obtained him the repute with some of being set by the Lord in the like place amongst the Children of Light at this Dayas Moses had amongst the Children of Israel in his Day and this we doubt is the Occasion that the Rebellion of Corah Dathan and Abiram is much treated on to affrighten Simple People in our Publick Meetings for Worship of God since the Divisions amongst Friends especially in those Places where G. F's Papers relating to Church-Government have little place But alas those who are sound in the Faith cannot be affrighted with such things no more than they can be convinced with the sight of such False Certificates * Note The Reader may peruse the Fifth Part of the Christian Quaker and therein the said Certificates are more largely treated on recorded in the 21st Section of the Manuscript first mentioned in the Preface and ready for perusal of any Friend desiring the sight thereof as of late have been spread abroad in his Favour to render him an Innocent Man and to acquit him from the Guilt of some Matters of Fact laid to his charge when the Certifiers knew nothing at all thereof and of this he himself could not be Ignorant though the Occasion of spreading such Certificates abroad if he knew what was contained therein which would have been proved to his Face had he been but so Just to the cause of Truth as to have submitted to a hearing according as was desired and in the Preface signified before Friends of things Reproachful to the Truth whereof he is guilty But notwithstanding all this we dare not say that his Preaching the Light in the beginning of his Travels abroad as well as the Preaching the Light by others his Fellow-Servants in the Beginning with him was not the Ministration given them of God for at the sound thereof many Faces gathered Paleness Horror and Amazement seized many who then became sensible of their Lost State and Condition whilest they were admiring their Teachers and busied in Outward Ordinances more than in the Cross of Christ And that Day wherein many were not only so strucken with Amazement but through Faith received the Testimony given touching the Light of Christ might truly be termed The Day of their Infancy in the Truth and so the more likely to be prevailed upon by the Enemy who in that Day as in Ages past sought how he might destroy that Tenderness to the Truth which was so begotten for 't is certainly known that many whose Eyes ought to have been unto the Creator Admiring and giving Glory unto him for his Gifts of Grace and Ministration of Light then revealed did on a sudden admire the Creature in such an abundant manner as if not only the planting and watering were by him but the Encrease also and in that Day some whom the Lord hath made as Watchmen in the House of Israel were concerned thereat and Jealous with a Godly Jealousie and though at present 't is not with us to declare what that Jealousie was yet if the Tree may be known by its Fruit we may with Boldness affirm that the then admiring the Creature might be truely paraleld with that State out of which the Lord through the Ministration of Light or Spirit of Life had led many at that Day who had so learned the Truth as according to the Testimony thereof to have their Eye to the Light within viz. the Light of Christ and not instead thereof to any Outward Person through whom amongst other Brethren the Ministration of Light was revealed But yet notwithstanding some there were as before is signified that admired the Creature which not only became unto them a snare but 't is much to be doubted unto the Creature also that was admired for the Acceptation of more respect than was meet stands in the same ground with the Offering thereof and 't is too much to be feared that the imprudent Acceptation of what was unduely offered hath begot a Spirit of Pride and Exaltation in G. F. which the Lord is determined for his Name-Sake to bring into the Dust and if he did but seriously mind his State and Condition and was but more ready to appear little in his own eyes than to be accounted Great in the Eyes of others and not give way to such a false Imagination that true Judgment was committed to him in all things which can now be Testified was spoken by him and that at that time wherein his Judgement was known to be false and that he may take a Liberty knowingly to put Stumbling Blocks in the way of Gods People and yet be justified therein * Note When William Rogers discoursed with him touching this particular Passage in his Book of Womens Meetings And was not Micahs Mother a virtuous Woman Read Judges 17 and then a few Lines after though she was an Idolotrous Woman sayeth these and such
and have so much memory as from the mouths of others to use the words of that wise Apostle Paul when he said 1 Cor. 3.19 The Wisdom of this World is Foolishness with God as if thereby they had brought some Excellent Proof to Justifie all those Rude Actions and Impertinent Expressions which as the fruit of their Ignorance and Folly in a boisterous unruly Spirit they have brought up Were such but sober girding up the Loyns of their Minds they would undoubtedly come to see that such their Words and Actions are but the Fruits of that Ignorance that lusteth to Envy which is to be silenced and doubtless of this sort were these whom the Apostle Peter hinted at 1 Pet. 13 14. when he said Wherefore gird up the Loins of your Minds be sober as obedient Children not fashioning your selves according to your former Lusts in your ignorance But if such had less folly and confidence and were but as ready to ask Wisdom of God according to the Counsel of the Apostle James as they are to condemn that Gift of Wisdom and Understanding which God hath given unto others Jam. 1.5 they would not be ready to run at the Beck Nod or Call of such as in a boasting imperious Spirit glory exalting them as Judges over God's faithful Servants and that have brought forth * See the 5th Part of the Christian-Quaker Lyes in a bitter envious Spirit which things being earthly sensual and devilish are the very marks of that Wisdom that descendeth not from above As a farther illustration of what is aimed at in this discourse we now come to signifie that some have a far greater portion of Wisdom Knowledge and Vnderstanding than others and that it 's given them of God as they are Creatures distinct from what they are when acted by a good Spirit or a bad and in this respect is Man as a Creature the most excellent Creature that God hath made But yet such is the Ignorance of this Age as to accompt this Portion of Wisdom Knowledge or Vnderstanding as we are creatures to be that Wisdom which the Apostle termed Earthly Sensual and Devilish or the Wisdom of this World or the Wisdom of the VVise 1 Cor. 1.19 which the Lord by the Apostle Paul hath said he will destroy But herein such do manifest themselves not knowing whereof they affirm for that Wisdom Knowledge or Understanding which we have as Creatures is the proper Gift of God and a part of his own Creation and is honourable in its place and it is against the nature of the Divine Being to destroy this Wisdom because it is his own Gift even as it is against his Nature to destroy the Lives of Men which is his Creation Luke 7.5 for the Evangelist saith The Son of man came not to destroy mens lives Obj. What then did the Apostle hint at when he spoke of the VVisdom of the VVorld the VVisdom of the VVise and the VVisdom of VVords To this it may be said Act. 22.3 That as Paul was brought up at the Feet of Gamaliel and taught according to the perfect manner of the Law of the Fathers so doubtless many there were who through Education attained unto that which Paul in his converted state terms to be the VVisdom of this VVorld c. From whence it may be concluded that he hinted at those things which in that day were given forth by the Scribes and Pharisees and other Disputers against that divine Appearance whereby Paul was made a Minister of the Everlasting Gospel which things so given forth we do not take to be the natural Effects of that Wisdom Knowledge or Understanding given unto them as creatures but rather being in the state of Degeneration as the Fruits of their Education and Acquired Parts wherewith being not subject unto the Appearance of Christ they then became Opposers of the Truth Besides as the word Flesh in Scripture is sometimes used not with relation to a Carnal Body but in a Metaphorical and Mystical sense by way of opposition to the Spirit of God so are these words fleshly wisdom used not with respect to man as a creature but by way of opposition to the Wisdom of God that 's from above and therefore is another thing than that which man is endued withal as he is a part of God's Creation To conclude Solomon in his day magnified Wisdom at a high rate as the Scripture testifies too large here to be inserted who in his day did undoubtedly account it the sign of a just man Pro. 10.30 and therefore said The mouth of the Just bringeth forth Wisdom The Apostle in his day did magnifie Wisdom exhorting the Saints to walk in Wisdom Col. 4.5 Christ the Son of God testified Mat. 11.19 VVisdom is justified of her Children These things considered our desires are that those who have true Wisdom may prize it that those who lack it may imbrace the Counsel of the Apostle James Jam. 1.5 and ask it of God who giveth liberally and that those Fools who despise Wisdom may come to have a sense of what Solomon spoke when he thus said How long ye simple ones will ye love simplicity and fools hate knowledge turn ye at my Reproof Sure we are the Apostle's Writings encourages none to cry down Wisdom at the rate 't is of late without distinction exclaimed against by some but rather the contrary for we find the Apostle Paul writing to the Colossians thus to say Col. 1.9 28. VVe do not cease to pray for you and to desire that you might be filled with the Knowledge of his VVill in all VVisdom and spiritual Vnderstanding and again thus VVhom we preach warning every man and teaching every man in all VVisdom that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus But this ignorance we doubt hath happened unto many not only from a Principle of having their Eyes out unto man 2 Tim. 3.15 but also from a neglect to read the Scriptures of Truth given forth by inspiration which the Apostle saith are able to make thee VVise unto Salvation through Faith which is in Christ Jesus As to the word Knowledge this may be added That in the want thereof in days past those who are escaped of the Nations set up their Graven-images according as Isaiah the Prophet testified They have no knowledge Isa 45.20 that set up the Wood of their Graven Images and pray unto a God that cannot save Oh! that at this day there were no cause to take up a Lamentation that the want of Knowledge is the cause that many have appeared ready to exalt man to have an eye to men and in neglect of that heavenly Gift which is given unto Mankind to bow in their Hearts unto Men as having a dependency on the Dictates Prescriptions Orders and Outward Rules of Man this under the Dispensation of the Gospel of Christ we take to be as great a falling
4th Month 1677. which now follows We whose Names are here unto Subscribed do Testify that on the Sixteenth day of the Fifth Month 1677. we were present in a Meeting usually held in the City of Bristol for the taking Care of the Poor and promoting of other Christian Duties when a Paper Subscribed by Sixty Six Persons and Dated from a Metting held at Ellis Hookes his Chamber in London the Twelfth of the Fourth Moneth 1677. was there Read and therein John Story and John Wilkinson are Reproved and Judged in these Words viz. We do hereby Reprove and Judge that Jealous Rending and Separating Spirit and them meaning John Story and John Wilkinson and their Separate Company as being in that Spirit of Separation and that by the Power and Spirit of our God and we warn all to whom this Comes to beware of the said John Story and John Wilkinson whose way at present is not the way of Peace c. The aforesaid Judgment we do now Declare that we do not own to be Righteous nor yet dare we deny the said John Story and John Wilkinson lest we sin against God and despise those unto whom a Dispensation of the Gospel of Christ is committed especially since that the aforementioned Paper doth sufficiently manifest to our Consciences That the Spirit of God did not move in the hearts of the sixty six Subscribers to give forth the same though the Name of the Lord his Power and Spirit is frequently made mention of in the said Paper and that this is so we thus manifest First The great Crime against John Story and John Wilkinson is for that as report saith They have been instruments to set up or at least incourage a Separate Mens-Meeting in the North wherein the outward affairs of the Church are managed and so consequently is esteemed besides that Form of Government which is contended for Now it doth not appear to us from the said Paper that the Meeting from which the aforesaid Paper was given forth was a Meeting held according to the Form of Government contended for and so we are dissatisfied that the Actions of that Meeting are Justifiable by the Rule of those who oppose John Story and John Wilkinson on the foot of the Separate-Meeting so called For it doth not appear that the aforementioned Meeting was the General Meeting by any thing therein contained not being so much as Dated from thence nor yet within the time wherein it was appointed to be held besides if the Paper did not prove that yet by a Post-script thereto it appears that there were several Brethren that had left the City before the said Meeting wherein the said Paper was Subscribed and so had it been within the appointed time of the General-Meeting it could in the best sense be but from a part of the said Meeting The aforementioned Meeting by the said Paper Appears not to be the second day's weekly Meeting for its Date is on the Third Day and when any thing is given forth from that Meeting 't is usually Dated from the said Meeting Besides we find that the Hands of many Antient Labourers in the Gospel and the greatest part by many of the Body of the Elders and Ministring Friends dwelling in and about the City of London are not thereto Subscribed and not only so but we are Credibly Informed that though 't was discoursed in the Second Days Weekly Meeting yet 't was not unanimously Assented to therein And if so it follows by natural Consequence that it could not be the action of the said Meeting had it been Dated on that Day and that this Expression in the aforesaid Paper viz. And blessed and sweet and very pretious to our Souls is the Heavenly Unity of Life amongst us wherein at this Meeting the Lord our God hath Crowned us with Glory Dominion and Peace cannot in Truth be spoken with respect to the aforesaid Second Days Weekly Meetings Unity as to the matter contained in the aforesaid Paper The afore-mentioned Meeting cannot be reasonably supposed to be from the Mens-Meeting of the City of London for that the generality of the Members thereof have not their Hands thereto neither is it said Signed on behalf of that Meeting or any other setled Meeting in England nor yet from it or any other such Meeting All which Considerations confirm us in this Perswasion that the aforesaid Paper was given forth from a Meeting held out of the Form of Government contended for and so by their own Rule ought to be disowned by the Meetings to whom it is directed Secondly It appears that the Sixty Six Subscribers in their Paper have given forth these Sentences viz. At this Meeting the Lord our God hath Crowned us with Glory Dominion and Peace at this time as on the like Occasions hath been frequent with us the Care of the Peace and Welfare of the Churches of Christ came upon us And are your Servants for his meaning Christs sake By that Salt that we have in our selves from the Lord are we enabled to savour between the Transformation of the Enemy and the Scruples of the Innocent And as to be tender of one so to give Judgment against the other And truly that which hath encouraged us in this Epistle is that good success God hath blest our like endeavors in his power with We are Unanimously your Dear and Faithful Brethren in the labour travel tribulation patience hope and rejoycing in the Kingdom of Jesus our Lord. On these last Six Sentences we thus Observe that where they have Credit it 's but too probable that it may gain a Perswasion or Belief that the Sixty Six Subscribers are Apostles and so may become a means to obtain the better Credit to their Paper Should any thus be Perswaded they therein would be Mistaken for three or four from the City of Bristol who are well known to us are not Exercised in the work of the Ministry besides others from other Countries and Places Thirdly We find in the said Paper these two following Sentences And forasmuch as it appears to us that they will not come to us nor near us in the peaceable Truth which we have frequently truly desired for their good but that they will go on in their Opposition refusing to dissolve their Separate-Company in the North c. And because we are sensible that they have made an ill use of our Forbearance even to strengthen themselves in their Separation c. On which we thus Observe That these two Sentences are assigned as a part of those considerations wherefore the Sixty Six Subscribers were as they say constrained after continued Waiting and Exhortation slighted by them meaning John Wilkinson and John Story more publickly to Reprove and Judge them in these things as by their Paper doth plainly appear which being duly considered it naturally follows that if every one of the Sixty Six Subscribers have not frequently desired John Story and John Wilkinson to come to them they are
in Isa 9.6 't is thus said And the Government shall be upon his shoulders and his Name shall be called wonderful Councellor c. Secondly Because 't is wholly repugnant to the Light of Christ in our Consciences that the weight of a Government that is Spiritual and Everlasting the Laws whereof are written in the Heart and wherein nothing but true Judgment and Justice hath been is and shall be executed for evermore should rest upon any Man or Men as a Governour or Governours over others since there is no Man nor Men but are subject through Temptation to Err if they watch not and therefore we may well say much less on any such one man though termed by some the great Apostle of Christ whose Actions towards his Brethren have been found injurious to them undeservedly and reproachful to the Truth nor yet upon any such Assemblies as the usual General Meeting so termed though improperly of the People called Quakers is because the Meeters have usually consisted of Uncertain Numbers of Uncertain Qualifyed Persons that take upon them so to assemble whilest others beholding the Ill Consequences of their Meeting conscientiously forbear to joyn with them Thirdly Because it is evident that the Disciples of Christ had their Eye so much on his outward and bodily appearance as that Christ their Lord and Master saw it meet to tell them in these words Joh. 16.7 It is expedient for you that I go away and when he so said he did not then tell them nor yet at any time before or after I will commissionate some Man or Assembly of Men in my Stead that so you may have your Eye unto and expect Written Orders from him or them to walk by and to lead you into all Truth but John gives them a Reason for his so saying in these words Joh. 16.7 For if I go not away the Comforter will not come but if I depart I will send him unto you meaning the Spirit of Truth which as he promised should abide with them for ever and should be in them which undoubtedly was in order to the Exaltation of his Government in the Heart and that they might have their whole Dependency on the Spirit of Truth which as before is signifyed Christ promised should abide with them forever And so this may truly be termed that Everlasting Unerring Unchangable Governour unto which the Subjects of Christ's Kingdom owe Obedience And why so but because under it the Promise of Christ was That they should be guided into all Truth according as is plainly signifyed from these following words spoken by Christ himself Joh. 16.13 I have yet many things to say unto you but you cannot bear them now Howbeit when the Spirit of Truth is come he will guide you into all Truth for he shall not speak of himself But whatsoever he shall hear that shall he speak Here is no room left for the Church of Christ to contend about Forms of Government or who shall be Governours under Christ's Government for if the Spirit that is in us and that is to remain with us forever shall guide us into all Truth then our Dependency ought to be thereon that so thereby we may be led into all Truth or else we cannot manifest our selves to be obedient Subjects unto Christ under his Government that he is exalting in the Hearts of the Sons and Daughters of Men. The consideration of these things leads us to give this Testimony That there is no ground either from the Scriptures of Truth without us or Light of Christ within us to believe that any Christian Professour can in Truth affirm That there are Outward Prescriptions and Orders given forth by the Spirit of God through any one or more Mortal Men in this our Day which others ought to obey and follow of which more anon in answer to R. B's Book of Government whether they see it their Duty or no and if they do not may therefore come under the Curse and partake of the same Judgments from God which happened to Corah Dathan and Abiram for their Rebellion against Moses and though the sin of Corah c. hath frequently in our Publick Meetings for Worship been spoken of and intended as we have taken it to be as a proper Citation to describe the state of such as on a Conscientious score cannot submit unto the outward Orders of one man yet we testify that such sort of insinuating and thretning language seems much more agreeable to the first Covenant then the second under which we are and when countenanced or spoken by any expecting such a submission it then seems to savour of a spirit that speaketh of himself and not what he hath heard from the great Lord and Master Jesus Christ and so consequently from another spirit than that which Christ promised he would send for Christ's own words signify He shall not speak of himself Moreover t is evident that Corah and his Company rebelled against Moses who was King in Jesuran and a Leader of Israel and thorough whom the Lord gave forth his Law to the People but we know that none can according to truth at this Day pretend that any other Governour is raised up amongst the Children of Light to be like unto Moses whom we ought to hear in all things save Christ Jesus who by his Spirit manifested in every Subject of his Kingdom is thereby become their Lawgiver and whilest they are obedient thereunto they may in truth be reckoned to be of the number of those that are in Christ Jesus because they may then truly be termed such as walk not after the flesh but the spirit and to such according to the Apostles Doctrine there is no Condemnation Objection This Discourse touching Government may occasion some to raise this Objection We understand that many called Quakers do hold Monthly and Quarterly-Meetings of Men and also of Women distinct from Men about their Church Affairs and that these Meetings are reputed to be Established on certain dayes that ought not to be altered by one man amongst them that hath pretended he was moved of God so to do and that the same person hath by his Paper spread abroad in divers parts of the Nation signified that none but loose spirits and such as tend to looseness pretend to set up a better way or to alter them to another day for fear of Corruption in Observing a Day and that it is but from a corrupt spirit of darkness which God will blast and that some call these Meetings the Government of Christ set up amongst them and establish't by the power of God to take care of the Churches affairs and that true Judgment and Justice which are the fruits of Christ's Government may be executed To this we answer we confesse there have been and yet may be such Meetings but if any think they have been or are establish't by any one man or that therein the Government of Christ is set up any otherwise than as any
first publish't amongst us is become our only Teacher and Lawgiver by the in shining of his Light in our consciences and therefore his reflection seemes unsavoury But that which to me renders it the more Unsavoury is this when I consider the whole scope of his Treatise 't is to be doubted 't is used so far as in him lyes with respect to the Advancement of some Outward Government by Man or Men else what 's the Meaning that the aforesaid Author hath made such a dilligent search amongst the Apostles Writings after the words Order Rule Command Govern Government Traditions and such like and whether he doth not apply them to the Authority of any assembly which in any tolerable suposition may be term'd the Church of Christ let the impartial Reader dilligently peruse his Treatise and then Judge for so it s plainly to be discovered as to me appears by every impartiall Eye that shall seriously observe the scope of his Treatise and therefore I do conclude that his Reflection on such sound and savoury Language denotes a wrong Spirit and not the Spirit which appear'd amongst those antient Labourers who were Instruments in Gods Hands to gather many and who in the Approbation of such Language were accounted Honourable This puts me in mind to inform the Reader that R. B. in his third Section quotes divers Testimonies in the Scripture where these sentences are viz Know them that are over you hold the Traditions ye have been taught Though I should boast somewhat more of our Authority and we have confidence that ye will do the things which we command now we command you Brethren c. and then the aforesaid Author comments thereon what more positive then this And yet the Apostle was not here an Imposer And further If any obey not our word remember them which have the rule over you and submit your selves These filthy Dreamers despise Dominion And then thus saith There can nothing be more plain from these Testimones than that some did appoint and ordain certain things that there lay an Obligation in point of duty on others to * 'T is to be doubted his meaning is others ought to obey whether they see it their Duty or no as his 68. Page seems to import obey That this was no Incroachment nor Imposition on their Christian-Liberty nor any ways Contradictory to their being inwardly led by the Spirit of God in their Hearts And lastly that such as are in the true Feeling and Sense will find it their places to Obey and be one with the Church of Christ in such like Cases and that it 's such as have lost their Sense and Feeling of the Life of the Body that Dissent and are Disobedient under the false Pretence of Liberty Thirdly I Judge there will need no great Argument to prove the People of God may and do well to Exercise the like Government upon the very like Occasion Thus much may be collected out of R. B's 26 27 and 28. Pages Moreover in Pages 23. 24. 25. He quotes these Scriptures sayings viz In Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the Gospel wherefore I beseech you be followers of me As absent in Body but present in Spirit have Judged already c. From all which I shall observe saith the aforesaid author that it seems it was Judged no Inconsistency nor contradiction to be Followers of the Grace in our selves and also to be Followers of the Apostle Paul and his waies because his Waies and Example was no other than the Spirit of God in themselves would have led them to if they had been obedient and therefore he found it needfull to charge them Positively to follow him without adding this Reason Next the great Argument the Apostle useth to perswade them hereunto upon which he mainly insists because he had begotten them into the Truth Ye have not many Fathers for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the Gospel wherefore I beseech you be ye followers of me So he makes that as the cause c. We see then that the Lord hath and doth give such whom he hath sent forth to gather a People unto himself a certain authority in the Power over them and to bring them back to their Duty when they stray at any time and to appoint yea and command such things as are needful for Peace Order and Unity sake and that there lies an Obligation on such as are so gathered to Reverence Honour yea and Obey such as are set over them in the Lord. Thus far the aforesaid Author From all which I Observe First That here is nothing spoken in these Scriptures of the Commands of the Church and that if God hath at any time moved an Apostle on some Occasion to write unto a Peculiar Church and that perhaps with relation to perticular Members only by way of Command yet this according to right reason is no Ground for any Assembly of Persons under the Notion of the Church of Christ to give forth positive Commands in expectation that all the Members of Christs Church must obey the same whether they have a Sense thereof from the Measure of Truth in themselves or no. Secondly R. B. quoting this Scripture of the Apostle Paul viz. In Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the Gospel concludes that Paul did mainly insist upon his begetting them unto the Truth as an Argument to perswade them to obey his positive Charge to follow him by this then those who have begotten any to the Truth are the fittest to rule over such whom they have begotten If this be worthy Observation at this Day I then may well query Whether those who would Rule over such whom they have not gathered are not Intruders and Busy-Bodies medling with that which concerns others more than themselves Moreover I query Whether any of these fore-going Scriptures give the least Countenance for whole Assemblies to Minister by their Writings that which may be Matter of Faith and relative to the Conscience and to be a Bond thereon before their Vnderstanding is illuminated especially when what they do Minister first springs from the Gift either but of one or at most but a very few of them For since every man ought to Minister according as he hath received the Gift and that if any speak they ought to speak as the Oracles of God and that if any Minister it ought to be done of the ability which God giveth according to that of Peter 1 Pet. 4.10 11. I cannot but again query Whether the endeavouring to obtain a Multitude of Hands to confirm and approve that which is given forth by one or at least a very few may not become a Temptation to many to run beyond their own Lines and when they have so done instead of waiting on their own Gift make it their Business to stand by what they have done though it may prove no better in the best sence than a standing by the Gifts of others out of and in the
Subjection to Christ the Head to whom all Power is given in and over his Church who are Fellow-Members and Fellow-Servants of and in his Body whose Power and Prevalency with the Lord is better demonstrated by coveting to Wash each others Feet according to the Example of Christ their Lord and Master than to be in the Exercise of Outward Jurisdiction as Lords and Masters over each other For that agrees not with the Testimony of Paul Rom. 14.10 who thus said Why dost thou Judge thy Brother why dost thou despise thy Brother for we shall all appear before the Judgment-Seat of Christ for it is written saith the Lord every Knee shall bow to me and all Tongues shall Confess unto God so then every one of us shall give an account of himself to God let us not therefore Judge one another any more The consideration of these things puts me in mind that there are some who in their buisy minds are apt to be considering What sort of Joyes Heaven Yields to the Faithful after this life whenas their time would undoubtedly be much better spent in contemplating how to come thither or if they have assurance thereof to be demonstrating the Way to others if call'd thereto To this sort may such be likened who will needs give themselves the trouble to treat how far Christ's Government extends though of its encrease there is no end and in what Cases that are matters of Conscience the Church hath Power to give forth Positive Sentences that may obliege Believers though nothing can be an acceptable Bond upon the Conscience until by the Light convinc'd and that in such Cases greater Controversies may arise whether such as give forth such Sentences are the Church or no than were before concerning the Matters whereof they assume Jurisdiction and therefore of such it may be truly said That their Time might be much better spent in the Exercise of their Minds unto God that if they are not Subjects of Christ's Kingdom and under his Government they may attain thereto and be subject to his Power to whom all Power both in Heaven and Earth is given and that being thereunto attain'd may be preserved therein unto the End and be demonstrating unto others how to attain the same if call'd thereunto Concerning the Power of decision R. B. Page 66. saith as on another occasion is already quoted The only proper Judge of Controversy in the Church is the Spirit of God and is not necessarily annexed to any Persons or Person or Place whatsoever c. That is to say that any have ground to reason thus Because I am or have been such on eminent Member therefore my Judgment is infallible or because we are the Greatest Number or that we live in such a noted or famous Place though some of these reasons may and ought to have their true weight in Case of Contradictory Assertions Here I cannot but query That if the Spirit of God be the only proper Judge of Controversy in the Church as the aforesaid Author saith it is how then can there be any weight in any other thing else beside the Spirit And whether these his words viz. Some of these reasons ought to have their true weight in Case of Contradictory Assertions when relative to that which he himself concludes is unalterably seated in the Spirit of God seem not a contradiction in common sense And whether under this very Notion those who are but weak in the Faith or of a Temporizing Spirit may not have an eye to some Eminent Member or the Greatest Number or the Brethren in some noted or famous place more than to the Spirit of God and measure of his Grace in themsevles I leave to the Judicious Reader to consider Besides why are not the Meanest of the Flock the Lesser Number and some Inconsiderable Ignoble Place mentioned and that some of these also may and ought to have their true weight since the testimony of Truth hath been that God hath chosen the Foolish Weak and vile despised things of the World to confound the Wise and Mighty R. B. Further saith Page 68. First That there never will nor can be wanting in Case of Controversy the Spirit of God to give Judgment thorough some or other in the Church of Christ so long as any Assembly can properly or in any tollerable supposition be so term'd Secondly That God ordinarily hath imployed such whom he hath made use of in gathering his Church though not excluding others Thirdly That their de facto giving a positive Judgment in such Cases will not import Tyranny and Usurpation neither will the pretences of any Contradicting them or refusing to submit on the account they see it not excuse them of being guilty of Disobeying God But of these three Assertions may be collected without the least abuse of the Authors words this short ensuing sentence That a person 's not submitting to the positive Judgment touching Controversy given by any Assembly or at least by some or other of them which may in any tolerable supposition be term'd the Church of Christ is Disobedience to God though the persons refusing pretend they refuse to submit on the account they see it not By this sort of Language every one must not only now believe as the Church believes of which that I may not be misunderstood I refer the Reader to what shall be written thereon in what hereafter followes but also must believe as any Assembly or some or other of them doth which in any tolerable supposition may be term'd the Church of Christ or at least submit to such though the persons refusing shall pretend they see it not He that runs may read a body of darkness and confusion herein what a long step at once is here from under Christ's Government that now submission must be to any Assembly or some or other of them that in any tollerable supposition may be term'd Christ's Church Nay if the want of sight being laid for an excuse shall not excuse Submission may I not farther say What a long step at once is this to magnify that Devotion whereof Ignorance is the Mother and that zeal which is without knowledge Is here any room left to see and savour for our selves And if this be not an apparent mark of an Imposing Usurping Spirit and an evident Abuse to the profession of Truth and the antient Labourers therein whose Testimonies were We preach not our selves nor yet that you should be Followers of us otherwise than as you have an Inward Sense in your selves that we are Followers of Christ let God's Witness in all Judge To the same witness I cannot but yet appeal whether the submission that seems to be aimed at is not one of the greatest steps to an Apostacy that hath appeared in our Age or since the Truth hath in these latter years been publish't amongst us for I do know having been a witness of the primitive gathering and testimonies amongst us in these latter ages that one
Instrumental to gather though in R. B's Sense as is before manifested such are the fittest to rule over those whom they have begotten to the Truth but also over the Labours of others and then stile themselves the Church of Christ though not guided by the unerring Spirit so to do and then also pretend that they have Power in Cases that are matters of Conscience to give positive Sentences oblieging Believers to Obey Receive and Own the same and that 't is Disobedience to God not to submit to the Positive Sentences and Decisive Judgments of any Assembly or some or other of them which in any Tolerable Supposition may be termed the Church of Christ though we see it not and so by degrees may endeavour to divest Christ of his Government and Prerogative who alone is Lord over the Conscience and by his Spirit in us is become our only Lawgiver and who alone by the influencing Vertue of his own Spirit is able to bring unto that Love and Unity which through the Life of Righteousness finds exceptance with the Lord of Life William Rogers Having now done with the citation of what was writ in answer to the aforesaid Book of Government and considering that in the First Section thereof the Author as is already cited and Observed writ of a sort of Persons that would needs be Innovators and given to Change and introducing new Doctrines and Practices not only differing but contrary to what were delivered in the beginning and in Page thirteen seems reflectingly to treat on such kind of language as this I must stay till I be convinc'd as if such language was knocked down in the beginning and as may reasonably be taken from the scope of the said Book to reflect on such among the People called Quaker who are not so Zealously affected with the Outward Formes of Government under the Notion of Church-Government pretended to be establish't amongst them as the Author or Approvers of his Book were we think it necessary to cite a Testimony Publish't in Print by Isaac Penington the younger in the year One Thousand six hundred and sixty Being a part of a Discourse Entituled The Authority and Government which Christ excluded out of his Church c. And as it lyes all together word for word and not taken by parts and pieces here and there Our end in citing this Testimony is that the impartial Reader may consider whether the said Testimony hath any Coherence with that part of the said Book of Government which is Objected against by us or doth contradict any subject matter that we have treated upon The Testimony of the said Isaac Penington the Younger now followeth THe Apostles and Ministers of Christ came from Christ with a Message of Life and Salvation with a Testimony concerning the Good Will of God and his Love to Mankind pointing out the Way from Death to Life from Bondage to Liberty from Wrath and Destruction to Peace and Salvation What they have seen what they have felt what they have tasted what they have handled what they have found redeem and deliver them that they declare abroad to others as they are moved as they are sent as they are guided and assisted Now that which they preach to is Mens Consciences in the Sight of God They open the Truth which they know they give their Testimony in the Moving Leading and Power of the Spirit and they leave it to the same Spirit to demonstrate it to Mens Consciences as it pleaseth They are nothing they can do nothing they cannot convert any Man to God but the Power that speaketh by them the same Power worketh in other Mens Consciences at its Pleasure And here is the beginning of the Government of Christ in the Heart when his Truth carries Conviction with it to the Conscience and the Conscience is drawn to yield it self up to him then he lays his Yoak upon it and takes upon him the guiding of it he cherisheth it he cleanseth it he comforteth it he ordereth it at his Pleasure and he alone preserveth it pure chast gentle Meek and pliable to the Impressions of his Spirit and as the Conscience is kept single and tender to Christ so his Government encreases therein but as it becomes hard or subject to Mens Wills so another Spirit gets Dominion over it Therefore the great work of the Minister of Christ is to keep the Conscience open to Christ and to preserve Men from receiving any Truths of Christ as from them further than the Spirit opens or to imitate any of their Practices further than the Spirit leads guides and perswades them For Persons are exceeding prone to receive things as Truths from those whom they have an high Opinion of and to Imitate their Practices and so hurt their own growth and endanger their Souls For if I receive a Truth before the Lord by his Spirit make it manifest to me I lose my Guide and follow but the Counsel of the Flesh which is exceeding greedy of receiving Truths and running into Religious Practices without the Spirit Therefore the main thing in Religion is to keep the Conscience pure to the Lord to know the Guide to follow the Guide to receive from him that Light whereby I am to walk and not to take things for Truths because others see them to be Truths but wait till the Spirit make them manifest to me nor to run into Worships Duties Performances or Practices because others are led thither but to wait till the Spirit leads me thither He that makes haste to be rich even in Religion running into Knowledge and into Worships and Performances before he feel a true and clear Guidance shall not be Innocent nor the Lord will not hold him guiltless when he comes to visit for Spiritual Adultery and Idolatry The Apostles were exceeding tender in this point for though they certainly and infallibly knew what was to be believed yet they were not Lords over Mens Faith but waited till he who is Lord of the Faith would open the way into Mens Consciences They did not take upon them to be able to turn the Key to let in Truth and Conviction into Mens Spirits as men in these Days have been too apt to undertake but directed them to him who had the Key there to wait for the Conviction and Illumination of their Minds and so to receive in as they found him give forth to them Let every man saith the Apostle be fully perswaded in his own Mind take heed of receiving things too soon take heed of running into Practices too soon doing what ye see others do but wait for your own particular Guidance and a Full Perswasion from God what is his Will concerning you Tho I know this to be a Truth yet do not ye receive it till God make it manifest to you receive Truth from his Hand stay till He gives it You. Indeed the main Matter in Religion is to keep out the wrong part the forward part the bastardly
birth from running into Duties catching of Openings and laying hold of Promises and to feel the Heir born of the Immortal Seed to whom all belongs and the other Birth never afterwards get up above him but be subdued and brought into Subjection Again sayeth the Apostle Take heed of doing any thing doubtingly be not forward be not hasty wait for the leading wait for the Manifestation of the Spirit Be sure thou receive what thou receives in the Faith and Practise what thou practisest in the Faith For whatsoever is not of Faith is Sin being an Errour from the Principle of Life which is to guide and thereby thou losest ground and dishonourest Christ and comest under Condemnation And so the Apostle warns Believers To take heed of drawing one another on too fast or of Judging one another in such things as some of them might have Light in others not He that eateth not to Judge him that did not eat and he that did not eat not to Judge him that did eat yea in Matters of Worship he that observed a Day and kept a Sabbath not to Judge him that observed not a Day or kept not a Sabbath For the Jews which were truly converted yet were hard to be drawn off from the Observation of their Sabbath and could hardly bear with the Believing Gentiles who were never taught to keep their Sabbath with them but were taught to esteem every day and sanctifie it to the Lord Rom. 14.5 And those who esteemed every day and dedicated it to the Lord ceasing from Sin and resting to him for under the Gospel we are not to set up a new Type but to enter by Faith into the true Rest which is the Substance of what the other signified could hardly bear with them who observed a Day Even in the Apostles Days Christians were too apt to strive after a wrong Vnity and Vniformity in Outward Practices and Observations and to Judge one another Vnrighteously in those things And mark it is not the different Practice from one another that breaks the Peace and the Unity but the Judging of one another because of different Practices he that keeps not a Day may unite in the same Spirit in the same Life in the same Love with him that keeps a Day and he who keeps a Day may unite in Heart and Soul with the same Spirit and Life in him who keeps not a Day but he that Judgeth the other because of either of these Errs from the Spirit from the Love from the Life and so breaks the Bond of Unity And he that draws another to any Practice before the Life in his own Particular lead him does as much as in him lies to destroy the Soul of that Person Vers 15. This was the Apostles Rule for every one to perform singly to the Lord what he did and not for one to meddle with the Light or Conscience of another undervaluing his Brother or Judging him because his Light and Practices differed from his Vers 10. of that 14th Chap. but every one to keep close to their own Measure of Light even to that proportion of Faith and Knowledge which God of his Mercy hath bestowed on them and here is the true Unity in the Spirit in the Inward Life and not in an Outward Vniformity that was not necessary in the Apostles Days nor is it necessary now and that Eye which so dotes upon it overlooks the one Thing which is necessary Men keeping close to God the Lord will lead them on fast enough and give them Light fast enough for he taketh care of such and knoweth what Light and what Practices are most proper for them but for Men to walk on faster than the Lord holds forth Light to them this overturns them raising up a wrong thing in them and the true Birth hereby comes to suffer to shrink and be driven back And Oh! how sweet and pleasant is it to the truly Spiritual Eye to see several sorts of Believers several Forms of Christians in the School of Christ every one learning their own Lesson performing their own peculiar Service and knowing owning and loving one another in their several Places and different Performances to their Master to whom they are to give an Account and not to quarrel with one another about their different Practices Rom. 14.4 For this is the true ground of Love and Unity not that such a man walks and does just as I do but because I feel the same Spirit of Life in him and in that he walks in his Rank in his own order in his proper way and Place of Subjection to that and this is far more pleasing to me than if he walked just in that track wherein I walk nay so far as I am Spiritual I cannot so much as desire that he should do so until he be particularly led thereto by the same Spirit which led me And he that knows what it is to receive any Truths from the Spirit and to be led into Practices by the Spirit and how prone the Fleshly Man is to make haste and how dangerous that haste is will not be forward to press his Knowledge or Practices upon others but rather wait patiently till the Lord fit them for the receiving thereof and fear lest they should receive and practise too soon even in that part which cannot serve the Lord. And this I can truly say concerning my self I never found my Spirit forward to draw any either to any thing I believed to be true or to any Practice or Way of Worship I observed or walked in but desired that the Power and leadings of Life might go before them and was afraid lest men should receive things from my hand and not from the Lords Yea and this I very well remember that when I walked in the way of Independency as it hath been commonly called I had more Unity with more Love towards such as were single-Hearted in other Ways and Practices of Worship whose Spirits I had some feeling of in the true Simplicity and in the Life than with divers of such who were very Knowing and Zealous in that way of Independency in whom a wrong thing in the mean time had got up which had caused them to swerve from the Life and from the Simplicity So that the true Church Government being in the Spirit and over the Conscience as in the Sight of God the great Care must be to keep it within its Bounds that nothing else govern but the Spirit and that the Government be extended only unto that which is to be Governed First Care must be had that nothing Govern in the Church of Christ but the Spirit of Christ that nothing else teach nothing else exhort nothing else admonish and reprove nothing else cut off and cast out Every Minister in the Church is to watch over his own Spirit that it intrude not into the work of God that it take not upon it to be the Teacher the Exhorter the Reprover c. And
every Memis to wait in that Measure of the Spirit which he hath received to feel the Goings forth of the Spirit in him that teacheth and governeth and so to subject not to Man but to the Lord to receive from the Lord to Obey the Lord. Not to know any Minister according to the Flesh but to receive and submit to what comes from the Spirit in the Spirit Not to know Paul or Apollo or Cephas but the Spirit ministring in them Paul may Err Apollo may Err Peter may Err and did Err when he Compelled the Gentiles to live as the Jews Gal. 2.14 for which Paul withstood him to the Face Vers 11 and Barnabas also did Err Vers 13. but the Spirit cannot Err and he that keeps to the Measure of the Spirit in himself cannot let in any of their Errors if they should Err but is preserved for the least Measure of the Spirit is true and gives true Judgment but he that receiveth never so great a Measure of the Spirit yet if he keep not Low therein but lifteth up himself because thereof above his Brethren may easily Err himself and draw aside others into his Errour Secondly Care must be had that the Conscience be kept tender that nothing be received but according to the Light in the Conscience the Conscience is the seat of Faith and if it be not kept close to the Light which God Lighteth there Faith is soon made shipwrack of Christianity is begun in the Spirit which keepeth out the Fleshly Part with all its fleshly Wisdom and Reasonings about Spiritual things and as the begining is in the anointing so must the Progress be As the Spirit begins in the Conscience by convincing that by perswading that by setting up his Light there and leading the soul by that Light so that Light must still be eyed and according to its growth and manifestation in the Conscience so must the Soul stand still or go on The great error of the Ages of the Apostacy hath been to set up an Outward Order and Unformity and to make Mens Consciences bend thereto either by Arguments of Wisdom or by Force but the Property of the true Church Government is to leave the Conscience to its full liberty in the Lord to preserve it single and entire for the Lord to exercise and to seek Unity in the Light and in the Spirit walking Sweetly and harmoniously together in the midst of Different Practices yea and he that hath Faith and can see beyond another yet can have it to him-self and not disturb his Brother with it but can descend and walk with him according to his measure And if his Brother have any heavy Burthen upon him he can lend him his Shoulder and bear part of his burthen with him Oh how sweet and lovely is it to see Brethren dwell together in Unity to see the true Image of God raised in Persons and they knowing and Loving one another in that Image and bearing with one another through Love and helping one another under their Temptations and Distresses of Spirit which every one must expect to meet with If thou art a Christian in Deed and in Truth preserve thy Conscience pure and tender towards God do not defile it with such Religious Practices Duties Ordinances c. as thou dost not feel the Spirit leading thee into for all such are Idols and exceedingly polute thee And be tender also of thy Brothers Conscience and be not an Instrument to draw him unto any thing which the Lord leads him not into but rejoyce if thou find him in Simplicity of Heart startling at any thing for if he abide here faithful his Guide will in due season appear to him and clear up his way before him but if he be too hasty he may follow a Wrong Guide and that Guide will never lead him aright towards the Kingdom but entangle him further and further from it Oh how many have run a Whoring from the Lord how many have first lost the Guidance of his Spirit and then drowned their Life in Religions Performances How many have Drunk of the Cup of Fornication from the Life at the Hands of the Fleshly Wisdom How many have filled their Spirit with New-Testament Idols and Images How many have even hardened their Hearts and Consciences by following the Doctrines of Men their imaginary Meanings of Scriptures and the imaginations and Dreams of their own Hearts Is it not time for men at length to turn back towards the Lord to wait for the Visitation and Light of his Spirit from whom they have gone a Whoring and whom in all these things they have grieved And if ever any feel and enjoy the Guidance of God's Spirit their Conscience must be kept tender to it and ready to hear and follow his voice who speaks in Spirit to that which is born of him which infallibly knowes his Voice and being kept clear cannot doubt Concerning it My Sheep hear my voyce saith Christ they know it and the voice of the strange Spirit they know not so as to follow it but turn from it both in themselves and others But that which is not the Sheep but hath only got the Sheeps Cloathing cryes out How shall we know the Voice of the Spirit we may be deceived Nay that which is born of God that which is the Elect of God cannot be deceived Wait therefore for the Birth of the Spirit to which the Spirit is given for a Guide who infallibly guides it out of Deceit All Deceivers are out of this Birth out of this Spirit perhaps in some Birth or other framed from the Letter and living in the Imitation of some Practices and Ordinances from the Letter under which Cover they lie in wait to deceive but Strangers to the Life and Power and to that Wisdom which begets and bears to God Thus the Jews Erred and deceived their Proselites before the coming of Christ Thus the Christians in Name have generally Erred all along the Apostacy and indeed for the Generality have not been true Christians but only a persecuted Remnant amongst them whose Life hath been nourished and preserved not by Doctrines and Observations which they have been taught by the Precepts of Men nor by the Knowledge which they themselves have gathered but by a little Bread dayly handed to them from the Father of Mercies out of the Wilderness that was the thing which nourished their Souls up to God though many of them knew not distinctly what it was that nourished them nor how they came by it Object But is not Vniformity lovely and doth not the Apostle exhort Christians to be of one Mind and were it not a sweet thing if we were all of one Heart and one Way Answer Yea Vniformity is very lovely and to be desired and waited for as the Spirit of the Lord which is one leads and draws into one But for the Fleshly Part the Wise Reasoning Part of Man by fleshly Ways and Means to strive to bring
retain that Tenderness to God and regard to the hurt of their own Souls as to make Conscience unjustly to accuse the Innocent that since it was asserted by some and entertained as a Truth by divers that that Book was writ upon design and with a particular respect of prejudice to some Persons whom I did not so much as once think on in writing of it with somewhat worse which I am not willing to remember far less to mention whether those that propagated and entertained so false and groundless a Jealousie to the Prejudice of the Innocent have not reason narrowly to examine what Spirit they were influenced by in so doing which certainly could not be of God and whether they ought not thence to take Occasion justly to suspect the Effect and Fruits of the same Spirit in them even when it hath appeared in things for which they may have somewhat more to say surely with men of Inward Tenderness this cannot but have great weight And albeit that my Intentions were so clear in this Matter yet I will not say but the Lord whose Ways are unsearchable and past finding out may have purposed by those Papers seasonably to reprove and smite at a wrong Spirit And therefore all concerned had need in true Tenderness and godly Fear to beware how they shut out and turn by the warnings and Admonitions of the Lord seeking to carp at and find fault with the Innocent Instruments lest they be found Foolishly like those Dogs that run after and seek to bite the Stone because they cannot reach the Hand that threw it I have known this by manifold Experience to have been a Snare to many and therefore without the least Prejudice or Reflection upon any God knows out of true Tenderness and Love do desire it may be seriously weighed in the true Light by all that may feel themselves concerned in this Matter [f] [f] Since R. B. as before is signified in his Lines touching which I made my first Observation on his Explanatory Postscript affirms that he hath never found Occasion to repent or retract any thing from the Matters or Principles asserted by him and that he laboured with all the Care and Circumspection he could so to express himself as not to offend in a word I may now with Confidence affirm that his words therein since he well understands the Propriety of Words and Sentences may be justly taken to be the meaning of his Mind That now his Fallatiousness may appear I shall in order thereto cite his very words relating to the Matter in hand touching Jurisdiction over Mens Property R. B. in his Sixth Section treating how far this Government extends Pag. 39. thus sayeth This Order reacheth and taketh up the Composing of Difference as to outward things and further sayeth We do boldly averr as a People gathered together by the Lord unto the same Faith c. that we have Power and Authority to decide and remove these things amongst our selves From which positive Sentence it naturally follows that the Church touching whose Authority in Government he treats hath Power to decide and remove in Cases of Differences touching outward things and since in the same Section he useth the words Meum and Tuum with respect to outward things touching which Differences may arise it naturally follows that the Power claimed is in that Case a Power over Property I now desire that the Reader may observe that in this his Explanatory Postscript he sayeth not one word of the Assent of the Parties Differing which clearly shews that though as in the Fifth Observation is signified he intended to give under his own hand that he is principled as the aforesaid pretended Letter sayeth he is yet he therein deales fallaciously But now as to the things scrupled at W. R's Sixth Observation whereas some did suppose that I did ascribe to Friends an absolute Jurisdiction over mens Property in outward things therein I have been greatly mistaken for I never intended any such thing but simply to hold forth that which by the Apostle to the Corinthians 1 Cor. 6. is urged that whereas there would a manifest Scandal arise from Friends going to Law together that therefore such as will rather go to Law than seek to come to Agreement by the Interposing of Friends ought with a respect to their bringing such a Scandal be censured since it cannot be supposed that any such Difference as to outward things can fall out amongst Friends but some or other may be found who either by their own knowledge or by Advice Information of such as may be known in the Matter Controverted may bring it to an End Secondly that whereas I say there will not be wanting in case of Controversy the Spirit of God to give Judgment through one or other in the Church of Christ so long as any Assembly can properly or in any tolerable Sense be so called some have supposed that by these last words I did insinuate as if any Assembly assuming to themselves the Name of the Church of Christ and having some shew of it may of right claim the Power of such Decision and ought accordingly to be submitted unto such a thing never entred me but was far from my Intention for albeit that I Judge that an Assembly may sometimes deserve the Name of the Church of Christ or not to have lost that claim albeit not altogether so fresh and lively at least in the Generality of its Members and so under some languishing and hazard to decay if Life do not again come up more abundantly as may be seen in the Example of the seven Churches of Asia whom notwithstanding of the several weaknesses divers of them were under yet the Apostle or rather the Spirit of Christ by the Apostle Dignifies with the name of the Churches of Christ Neither did I intend to make this Judgement necessarily to attend every particular Church or Assembly but by the Church there I understood it in a more universal Sense that is some or other among all the Churches of Christ who being spoken of in the Complex may be rightly termed the Church of Christ And this is manifest in the same Example of the Churches of Asia for albeit we might suppose there might have been wanting in each of them some to give forth this true Judgement concerning them yet in respect they were such as in some tolerable Supposition might be termed the Churches of Christ * * Rev 2.4 5 14 15 20. Chap. 3.16 albeit some of them had lost their first Love and were neer to have their Candlestick removed and some had the Doctrine of Balaam and of the Nicholaitans and some suffered the Woman Jezabel and some were Luke-warm and ready to be spued out we see God would not suffer them to be without a certain Judgment but gave forth one through the Apostle John who was a Member of the Church but to esteem that any Assembly may be tolerably
Nations are not to be blamed for all their Idolatry Wickedness and Superstition for that they are not sensible of the Evil of it whereas Truth teaches us to believe that had they been Faithfull to the small measure of Light in things more obvious it would have further opened and manifested other things Then should not the Jews have been condemned for crucifying Christ since Peter says they did it ignorantly and Paul testifies that if they had known they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory Yea then all those that persecuted and burned the Protestant-Martyrs were not to be Judged for it because they supposed they did well in it even according to Christ's Testimony who says that in killing you they shall think they do God good Service shall men then never be condemned for doing evil or omitting their Duty because they see it not what absurdity would folthereupon may easily appear and yet it is strange that W. R. in his Papers should labour so much against this affirming very positively that nothing ought to be given forth in the Church of Christ but by way of recommendation not of command wherein he doth either greatly mistake the matter as affirmed by me or otherways run into a far greater inconveniency than he is aware for if he mean that no man of or from himself only or by vertue of any office or place he either hath or hath born in the Church of Christ ought to Command any things to be performed in the Church I freely agree to it and have asserted the same in very full and ample termes But if he will say that no man albeit really moved by the Spirit of God ought to go further than a meer reomendation it is a most insolent limiting of God under a false pretence of Liberty will necessarily conclude that God hath not Power to command any thing unless men be content to agree to it For the Controversy is here drawn to a narrow Compass for he that will allow that God hath Power to command things to be practised in the Church and that those Commands must be conveyed by immediate Revelation through some of the Members of the Church and that it may fall out that some of the Members of the Church may thorough weakness or unwatchfulness not be sensible they must either acknowledge that such are to be condemned or say that God hath not Power to Command or that there is no such Revelations now a Days as do the Priests and Truths Enemies or that Man is not Condemnable for Disobeying God if he believe it not to be his Duty which is as much as to say that Unbelief is no Sin Now let these things be seriously considered how this is or can be avoided without granting the things affirmed by me for what way the Truth can be asserted the Honour and just Authority of God acknowledged the necessity and continuance of immediate Revelation affirmed and the Iniquity of Unbelief not justified and the just Judgement of God upon the Rebellious and Disobedient vindicated without affirming what I have done And if any can do this in words more wary than I have done I shall very readily agree to it For that things may be proposed to the Church by way of Command and further than a meer Recommendation the whole Current of the Scriptures shews not only to the Church among the Jews where Moses and the Prophets do propose the Will of God to be performed very positively and peremtorily but even under the New-Covenant as appears in the 15th of the Acts and in many places of Pauls Epistles particularly that on 2 Thes 3.14 If any Man obey not our Word by this Epistle note that Man and have no Company with him that he may be ashamed This then being manifested with respect to those times I would know of W. R. whether Christ has now lost any of his Authority or has left off to rule his church immediately by his Spirit whether so to affirm be not grossely to contradict the Ancient and Primitive Doctrine of Friends W. R 's Tenth Observation [k] [k] This is not my Concern having given no Occasion in my Answer for this his Defence and therefore do make no reply thereto Fifthly Whereas some did suppose that I did make the Difference in the End but very small betwixt Decissive Judgement among Friends and among Papists and other Persons because I say they place the Decisive Judgement in the Plurality of an Assembly made up of their chief Teachers and Ministers and albeit I limit it not to that yet I seem to affirm That it most usually is so conveyed and so the difference only is that they make it always so and I most usually To this I answer that if in Charity I may suppose this insinuation comes not from malice at least it proceeds from great Ignorance of the Popish Principles and it were better for such to be silent than to Judge of things they do not understand for the Difference here is very Great and Fundamental in respect both Papists and others do affirm that men by vertue of an Outward succession or vocation may have true Right to sit and give Judgment in such Assemblies albeit they be void of true Holiness and have not the Grace of God which they say is no necessary qualification to the being of a Minister so that they Place the Power of Judgment not onely in the plurality of Votes absolutely in which we differ from them but also in the Judgment of such as may without any absurdity by their own Principles be supposed to be all and each of them void of the true Grace of God and whom even supposing them to be Gracious they Affirm not at all to be led by the immediate Spirit of Christ which they say is now ceased now can there be a greater difference than is betwixt these two to wit to affirm that the Power of decision is in an Assembly of men to being Members of which assembly the Grace of God is no necessary qualification and who deny any such thing as to be immediately led by the Spirit of Christ as a thing not attainable in these Dayes and yet that all Christians must be Subject to what the Plurality of such an Assembly so Constitute do determin And to Affirm that the Power of Decision is onely and alone in the Spirit not necessarily tied to a general assembly but if it please God to make use of such an assembly yet neither to the Plurality of them but in and thorough such of his Servants as he sees meet and that none are capable or can be supposed to be Members of such an assembly or esteemed such from whom such a Judgment can be expected or ought to be received unless they be men in whom the Grace of God not onely is but has truly wrought to mortify and regenerate them in a good Measure in whom the Judgment of Truth really
the Truth those who refuse so to Assent may be subject to an Excommunication by G. E. and his Adherents from the Meetings of the Men. Besides it hath been an Observation of late That these Questions or Questions to the like Import have been frequently ask't by such with whom we cannot be at Unity in all things viz. Are you for Womens-Meetings Meaning distinct Womens-Meetings from Men Amongst whom under Pretence of Taking Care of the Poor another thing seems to be more chiefly aimed at as anon will be made appear Are you for Recording Condemnations Meaning thereby whether the Parties who have Condemned their Failings and through the Mercies of the Lord have been Restored and their Offences blotted out and forgiven by him Assent thereto or no Are you for Settled Mouthly and Quarterly-Meetings touching Outward Business since those who would have Meetings as occasion offers are accounted Designers to throw down all Meetings for Outward Business relating to the Affairs of Truth And when these or such like Questions have been askt of Friends in Truth that could not answer thereto Yea we are sensible that it hath been taken by many Adherents to G. F. as a sufficient token of a Dark Leavened Rending Dividing Spirit and meerly as we take it from an Apprehension that the Form they stand for is thereby struck at though the Services would be effectually performed in another Method as Experience in the Counties of Westmoreland and Wilts have of late testified for were it not so that great Stress is laid upon the Outward Form of Things prescribed to be practised How comes it to pass that John Story is Articled against by Robert Barrow of Kendal and Twenty-Six other Persons as in the Second Part of this ‖ Meaning the afore-said Historical Manuscript Treatise Section the Fourth appears on this wise in the Fifth Article viz. John Story speaking amongst many Friends of the Danger of Forms because of the Consequences that might follow said That amongst the Christians of old the Differences that did arise were about Forms which could not be seasonable Words when we were Establishing the Churches in the Holy Order of Truth Much more might be Collected from the Articles being Forty-Four in Number Exhibited by the afore-said Robert Barrow c. to shew How Earnestly and Zealously the very Outward Form of Things is contended for Which occasions us in all Seriousness of Spirit thus to say May the Lord God of Heaven and Earth so Preserve his People that they may not be ensnared by those who have raised so great Contention about the Outward Forms of Things prescribed to be Practised amongst the Professors of Truth lest they with them prove to be Boasters Proud Blasphemous False Accusers Despisers of those that are Good which are the very Marks and Tokens of those who had a Form of Godliness but denyed the Power thereof From whom the Apostle exhorts to turn away And how far these Marks rest upon many of those who so earnestly contend for their Outward Forms we leave to the Impartial Reader with the Light of Christ to Judge when he hath throughly perused this †Meaning the afore-said Historical Manuscript Treatise especially the Second Part. Oh Friends The serious Consideration of these things bows us before the Lord and in a Sense of his Mercies to us we can no longer keep Silence but in his Fear declare unto all That our Consciences are concerned for the Cause of God and his Truth And since it is so that an ill Use is made of that Spirit of Forbearance and Condescension which we are sensible hath been used by many of our Brethren it is now become our Portion to unburthen our selves of that which hath been our Burthen believing that the Lord is not only Arisen but will yet more and more Arise Against that Spirit that would Exalt it self over the Heritage of God endeavouring to Rule over their Consciences whenas Christ alone is Lord thereof It may be now worthy our Observation to consider whether any Encouragement was given by our Lord and Master Christ Jesus whilst on Earth unto his Disciples to become Rulers one over another We find that he Exhorts his Disciples Judge not that ye be not Judged Be not ye called Rabbi Matth. 7.1 23.8 for one is your Master even Christ and all ye are Brethren But he that is Greatest amongst you shall be your Servant and whosoever shall Exalt himself shall be Abased and he that shall Humble himself shall be Exalted Here 's no good ground to believe that Christ intended that when he was departed his Disciples should be Exalting themselves one over another as Governours and Rulers And if we consult the Scriptures of Truth we shall find that though his Disciples had a Dependency upon him whilst in his Bodily Appearance to be their Leader yet he tells them John 16.7 13. It is expedient for you that I go away for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you But if I depart I will send him unto you And he will guide you into all Truth for he shall not speak of himself Had it been so that Christ Jesus intended the Exaltation of one of his Disciples as an Head or Supreme unto whom the rest ought to have had an Eye in a more particular Manner than ordinary he would have undoubtedly signified so much But doubtless he saw that their Eye and Dependency was too much on his Outward and Bodily Appearance and therefore signified 'T is expedient I go hence that the Comforter come Agreeable to which are the Apostles Words Though we have known Christ after the Flesh yet hence-forth know we Him no more that is to say After the Flesh no more All which doth clearly demonstrate unto us It 's not according to the Will of God that under this Administration we should have our Eyes out unto Man but that our great Dependency should be on that Comforter the Spirit of Truth which Christ testified The Father would send in his Name to teach us all Things and that this Comforter should be In us And therefore on this Occasion 't is with us to give this further Testimony That every Member of the Body of Christ is through the Death of Christ made Dead unto any other Law save the Law of the Spirit of Life manifested through the Arising of Christ by his Appearance in every such Member and so as particular Members are become Marryed unto him And having all Fellowship each with other in the Spirit those who are such ought to demean themselves each towards other full of Love Charity Bowels of Compassion Long-suffering Forbearance Meekness Humility Patience Gentleness and of all other Virtues that are the Fruit of the Spirit of God But as to Obedience every Member owes that unto Christ his Head unto whom 2 Cor. 10.5 Every Thought according to the Testimony of the Apostle Paul ought to be brought into Obedience Thus
the Gospel of Peace and in the Wisdom that is peaceable you would have sought the Peace or come to me as I desired You before these things broke out as I said before but you are of a High Lofty Spirit which those Vertues are over it and they and the Truth remain in themselves and amongst them that have right to them but they have little place in You till you come to that which will bring you to Condemn all the contrary For though you think you may get ease by Scribling and Writing but that will not ease you for what you Sow that you must Reap for had they had place in You you would have been preserved in Peace My love is to all that fear God and retain their First Simplicity in the Humility the Foundation of God that stands sure My writing so largely has been for the sake of the Simple which Thou mayst Communicate to them that they may Hear Fear and Consider The 16 th of the 10 th M on 1676. George Fox Though the above-written Answer given by G. F. to John Wilkinson be in it self very remote from a Pertinent Answer to John Wilkinson's last recited Letter and cannot but be very obvious to many without Observations and Answers to any Part thereof Yet for the sakes of some that may be more Weak we think it needful to make some few Observations and short Reply unto some Part thereof The Purport of John Wilkinson's Letter we take to be chiefly that G. F. might manifest Two Things viz. First Wherein John Wilkinson John Story and such as G. F. might account their Company were separated from the Light of Christ within the Doctrine of Truth or had builded again the Things which they once destroyed Secondly That G. F. might clear himself that he approves of no Force about Religion but the Force and Effect of the Word delivered G. F's chief Matter as we take it produced against them is this How is the Lord sanctifyed amongst you concerning your Paying of Tythes or your Conniving at your Wives or others Paying for you This amounts to a plain Accusation against John Wilkinson others amongst whom it may reasonably be taken that he means John Story for one Tythe-Payers either by themselves directly or else by their Conniving at others Paying for them 'T is no marvel that G. F. is so generally Reputed amongst Friends far and near to report that John Story and John Wilkinson are Tythe-Payers since he hath written with Relation to John Wilkinson c. touching Tythe as afore-said But though he hath so done yet 't is a notorious Falshood and Untruth for John Wilkinson hath not only been a great Sufferer for Tythes but also was never known to evade his Testimony in the least or that his Wife or any for him ever paid * We are now sensible the Reader may be ready to query Whether there be no Pretence to render John Wilkinson a Tythe-Payer To this we answer We never understood any other Pretence that such as have Accused him thereof have made when narrowly examined but this viz. That he payeth Tythe-Male-Silver and whether that can he such a just Occasion as to render him a Tythe-Payer by which he is taken to be a Man that hath no Testimony against Tythes as a Maintenance for the Priests we shall leave to the Consciences of Vnprejudiced Readers when they have in the Light of Christ throughly weighed the ‖ Note The said Testimony is in this Treatise already Cited Testimony of John Wilkinson John Story Recorded in the Fourth Section of this Second Part of * Meaning the aforesaid Manuscript mentioned in the Preface to the First Part of the Christian-Quaker this Treatise and compared the same with this ensuing Testimony given under the Hand of John Wilkinson in relation to the Payment of Tythe-Male-Silver his Tythes And as to John Story he never was in a Capacity to bear any Testimony therein being a Single Man not managing any Estate in his Possession more than by Declaration against that Oppression AS to Tythe-Male-Silver payable by me John Wilkinson I say That I pay Two Shillings Seven Pence yearly termed on my Deed Tythe-Male-Silver and that the same I alwayes paid ever since I enjoyed my Land and that the said Sum is under Fine as the rest of the Rent to the King is And this Fine hath been enjoyned on the Possessor in former Deeds and that on the Death of a Tenant the next Taker is Finable for the same And I never did understand that there ever was any Deed of Purchase of Tythes for the Lands I enjoy nor yet that the afore-said Sum of Two Shillings Seven Pence was ever paid in lieu of Tythes nor that any Friend accounted me an Offender for paying the same until of late But though this be the State of my Case yet I know others of my Neighbours possessing Lands of another Hold are lyable to pay a small Sum termed Tythe-Male-Silver or Composition-Money and in Default of Payment are lyable to Tythe in kind and such have Deeds of Purchase for Tythe wherein such Composition-Money is expressed But that is not my Case Witness my Hand this 3d. of the 12th Month 1678. John Wilkinson which he hath often done and in particular both of them gave in a Testimony in Writing of their Clearness in that Particular both as to Judgment and Practice And yet notwithstanding this Falshood hath undoubtedly been a great Means by which G. F. hath obtained many Proselytes on his Side to oppose John Wilkinson and John Story as Tythe-Payers and so Consequently Apostates and Dark Spirits The Lord rebuke that Evil Spirit that hath entred the Leader of many People to cause them through the Belief of Lyes to err And as to G. F's so frequent telling them That they are Separated from the Inward Light and Spirit c. that falls of it self being proved by no Convincing Instance greater than this his Saying viz. If not you would have been at Unity with me as at first And whereas G. F. tells John Wilkinson That he is of an Angry Disquieted Froward Peevish Pretful Malicious High ‖ Note As to the words High and Lofty Spirit with Application to John Wilkinson by G. F. we think it needful to give a Character of John Wilkinson and likewise of G. F. according to their Deserts and leave it to the Consciences of Impartial Readers to consider which of them deserves to be termed of a High and Losty Spirit John Wilkinson when he was first Convinc'd of Truth had an Estate of Tenant-Right Land valued between Fifteen and Twenty Pounds per Annum and ever since at Times and Seasons when he is at Home exercises himself in Bodily Labour sometimes at Plow and sometimes otherwise He also hath ever since kept his Family to labour and so hath Lived handsomly according to the manner of his Country upon his Estate which he hath kept in his own Hand
though the Apostle thus exhorted Little Children keep your selves from Idols yet thy Book touching Womens-Meetings c. very Scandalous to the Truth and worthy in several Particulars to be Judged and Condemned informs us as if Micah's Mother spoken of Judges 17. when she gave Money to make a Graven Image to be Worshipped was a Virtuous Woman for touching her thou hast thus written And Was not Micah's Mother a Virtuous Woman Read Judges 17. and see what she said to her Son And in a few Lines after thou thus testifyes These and such like Women are Recorded to Posterity for their Wisdom and Virtue See thy Book Pag. 43 44. Thirdly Though there are Endeavours to send Papers to and fro to bespatter John Story for going out of a Meeting when the Persecutors came yet I know that thou thy self hast been found in the like Action and if Reports be true the frequentest of any Man that ever I heard called by the Name of a Quaker And 't is to me a broad Signe that this would not have been omitted as a grand Article against him amongst others at Drawel hadst not thou been Guilty in the like Case Fourthly That though John Wilkinson and John Story are persecuted by such unto whom thy Papers seem a Strength because they will not Condemn themselves Yet I never heard that thou as yet hast ever given forth any Paper of Condemnation for the Errors thou hast Committed in writing the Book about Womens Meeeting c. or any thing else Though I cannot believe but that thou art Conscious to thy self that Truth is scandalized thereby unless so great Imagination hath entred thee as to conclude That all thy Words Writings and Actions are Right because they are brought forth through thy Earthly Vessel And to speak plain I must tell thee Thou art not free from giving Occasion to be Jealous that thou dost so conclude Else when I treated thee about the Business of Micha's Mother Why didst thou tell me as thou then didst viz. That thou knewest what thou didst and that Thou sawest 't would be a Stumbling-Block But rather on the Sight of thy Mistake have ingeniously confest the same for 't is an Abominable thing in thee or any Man knowingly to put Stumbling-Blocks in the Way of God's People And know this from me thou wilt never be able to wipe away the Reproach that lyes upon thee for writing that Book until thou Condemn and Judge thy self for many things therein contained And to be yet more plain When I do consider that the Reputation and Respect that hath been given unto thee by many if not most of those who in the Parts here-a-way were first convinced of Truth did first spring from the Testimony we had concerning thee from the Mouths of those whom we believed the Lord and not Thou sent forth to gather us it seems a very strange Thing and the Badge of a grand Apostacy That any of the surviving Remnant of those Antient Labourers being as sound in Doctrine and Principle and as blameless in their outward Lives and Conversation as in the Beginning and thereby manifesting themselves Stayed in the Unchangeable Truth should be Persecuted and rendred Offenders for that which Truth declares to be no Offence and yet thou so far from being a Reproof thereto that 't is evident to me from my Discourse had with thee at Swarthmore and other things that thou art become a Strength to them Hast thou forgotten that Truth was Preach't in the Beginning under the Name of the Vnchangeable Truth And Is the Day now come that a Remnant of the Antient Stock who bore the Brunt and Heat of the Day must now be Persecuted whenas I am satisfyed if they could but now run with others to Change their Way they might yet be esteemed Good Friends Hast thou forgotten how often the Testimony of the Ancient Brethren were on this wise We Preach not our selves look not unto us but unto the Appearance of Christ in your selves And yet one Cause Assigned by thee that John VVilkinson and John Story are wrong is their not Coming to thee and by the sixty six Subscribers at Ellis Hook's Chamber in London their not Coming to Them Truly those who have received their Ministry from God are not to run hither and thither at thy Call or any man's Call whatsoever though I do know thou hast in a Letter written to me Assigned their not coming to Thee when thou send'st for them to be as a Proof that they were not Right nor in the Light and Power of God But by what Authority or according to what Principle of Truth Men called of God into the Work of the Ministry must be declared to be not right nor in the Light and Power of God because they come not to Thee when thou sendest for them I understand not for thou in thy best Estate wast but a Member of the Christ of God unto whom we are all to come when he calls And if any shall Affirm that thou hast and dost retain thy place yet in that Case Thou canst be but a fellow-servant accountable unto the Christ of God as every Member of the Body whereof Christ is Head is Hast thou forgotten how Thou hast Testified against James Naylor's Spirit whose great fall was his owning or at least not Reproving the Women when they Cryed with a Carnal Tongue Hosanna to him And hast Thou no Sense that its gross Ignorance and thick Darkness for any to look upon Thee as that Prophet whom the Lord by his Servant Moses Prophesied he would raise up like unto him whom the People are to hear in all things I cannot believe thou art Ignorant that such there are who so Look on thee and I never understood thou becamest a Reproof to this Spirit Hast thou no Sense that the same Spirit of Ignorance hath and can look upon that abominable Quotation touching Micahs Mother as well enough which where-ever it is doth undoubtedly Spring from this that 't is George's giving forth and so there must be something in it And hast Thou not been desired to Clear things of this Nature and to be a Reproof to such Ignorance and Darkness which tends to lead us into Egypt again I am the man who have Cause to be Jealous that there are some who look upon others either Apostatizing from the Truth or standing in slippery Places when they find not a more than ordinary Respect for thee I will not say an Hosanna in their Breasts as the Women had in their Mouths for James Naylor and therefore I cannot but say it might well become thee by a plain Testimony to Clear things of this Nature Many for Truth 's sake and out of an indeared Respect for thee in particular and a Hope that these little Differences amongst Friends might pass over and that thou wouldest use the Interest thou hast in the Hearts of the Professors of Truth to quell those many little Commotions which seemed some
is now so opened as to see that if thou own them thou wilt bring thy self under the Just Censure of Truth for endeavouring to make any Brother an Offender for that which is no Offence And if thou own them not then thou wilt shew thy self out of Unity with the great Opposers of John Wilkinson and John Story However if thou refusest to Answer 't will be Evidence enough that thou walkest not by that Golden Rule To do as thou wouldst be done by More-over Since thy Papers give Testimony against a Spirit Why dost thou not tell us in plain Words who they are in whom according to thy Sense it works For I much doubt that if thou art not the Secret Mover to all this Strife yet the want of the Right Application of some Expressions in thy Papers testifying against Bad Spirits c. is one great Cause of the Increase of Bad Spirits and of their Scribling And therefore be Plain-hearted For I do know that a dark imaginary Spirit is entred and under the Outward Profession of Truth and that also such a Spirit appears amongst those who espouse the Cause against John Wilkinson and John Story and the Fruits that are brought forth by them which evidence that they are of such a Spirit are as followeth viz. Judging the Lord's Servants out of the Truth for particular Matters laid to their Charge without hearing them speak for themselves or first sending their Judgment or Condemnation to them before the spreading thereof contrary to the known Practice of Friends in Truth gathering Friends together on purpose to entertain their Ears with Reports against John Wilkinson and John Story and refuse to bring forth the same to John Story 's Face before Friends equally to be Chosen though desired so to do both by John Story and others Magnifying Unity amongst Brethren and yet appear those who break the Unity reproving the Spirit of Strife and yet not only the Movers but Carryers on of Strife both by Word and Writing or to speak in thy Language Stribling to the Dishonour of God and the Cause of Truth And though such who espouse the Cause against John VVilkinson and John Story may suppose themselves capable to quote Thee for an Example or at least as an Approver of such Actions for none of them as I know of do so much as suppose that thy Words or Scribling tends to reprove them yet know this from me That there are many of God's Antient Flock who retain their First Love for Truth and every Honourable Labourer in the Vineyard dare not approve of this Late and New-found Doctrine publish't against All Reasoning and All VVisdom nor yet can suffer their Faith to stand in Thee or any Man And therefore if Thou or any Man bring forth a Dream or pretend a Night-Vision to run against Faithful Friends and on that foot Scrible against them under the Notion of Bad Spirits it hath no place with them because the Day hath discovered such Folly to Men of Conscience and indued with the Wisdom that 's from Above But yet I cannot say but that as it hath it may have place with some who are of this Number and Sort viz. Such whose Ignorance is so Great as to conclude it the Fruit of Vertue to avoyd All Reasoning and All VVisdom or whose Understandings are so vailed as to have an Eye to the Night-Visions or Dreams of Men more than to the Truth in themselves and on that foot eyeing the Scriblers of Papers more than the Matters therein contained as being convinced that they ought to shut out All VVisdom and All Reasoning a most dextrous Expedient where it takes place for Anti-christ so to exalt his Kingdom as that all manner of Iniquity and Deceit may quickly enter the Flock if once the Leader or Leaders of the People bring forth their own Imaginations under the Notion of Night-Visions and publish them for the VVord of the Lord and then no marvail if such conclude That every Friend is justly Condemned if they are not at Unity with the Paper given forth by the Sixty-Six Subscribers at Ellis Hooks's Chamber as if now 't were Good Doctrine or Exhortation to direct to the Spirit and Power that appeared in the Sixty-Six Subscribers when they brought forth their Unchristian like Papen instead of directing to the Measure of Grace in themselves One thing more lyes upon me to say unto thee That though amongst the Princes of the World there are such Politick Contrivances to carry on their Designs as to ingage such others therein who for Self-Advancement become of a Temporizing Spirit or for want of the Things of this World are ready to follow for the Loaves for being of a Mean Spirit are Hurried or Over-awed with Fear And so if their Designes succeed ill then 't is the Fruit either of Evil Counsel or ill Management but if well then they carry away the Glory thereof Yet it becomes not any one or many professing themselves Members of Christ's Body thus to do And now to Conclude I have this further to Query VVhether thou Conclude thy self no way obliged to bring thy VVritings to the Second Dayes Meeting in London to be approved of there before they be Printed If thou dost not Thou hast been wrong Represented if thou dost and yet think'st all other Friends are as 't is to be doubted thou dost for I have never heard that thy Book about VVomens Meeting was there approved or that all the Things therein contained will be stood by or owned by any one Friend in Truth then 't is an evident Token Thou wouldst Exalt thy self For What is that less than to conclude That the Infallible Spirit is limited to appear through thy Earthen Vessel only For if according to the Principle of Truth the Spirit is the Judge and that its pouring forth in our Day is upon many Sons and many Daughters Why then should not the Appearance of the Spirit through any Vessel have its free Passage as well as through Thine Or Why must Some VVritings given forth by the Spirit be brought to the Second Dayes Meeting to be approved and Others not But to return I have this further to say That if Thou or any are so imaginary as to conclude That all thy Writings and Books are given forth by the Infallible Spirit and that as such they ought to be made use of a part of which I am satisfyed have so been thereby to obtain Proselytes against John Story and John VVilkinson it appears to me as if thy Notorious Erring from the Infallible Spirit in writing some things contained in thy Book of VVomens-Meetings hath been permitted to be as an Evidence Recorded against all such who ignorantly look upon thee so to be as afore-said And therefore it becomes thee to be Humbled before the Lord and to Acknowledge thy Errors therein I am not without a Sense what Entertainment my plain Dealing will have amongst many if thou suffer it to be read or spread
or departing from the Truth III. Hast thou not a sense that thy aforesaid Paper of Queries may cast a Line of Reflection on every one that may secure from the Devourer any part of that outward Substance which God hath given them to maintain their Families and yet art not thou sensible that thou art the Man that hast advised the Rich to secure Worldly Estate that so the Persecutors might not become Spoilers thereof And if so IV. Will it not evidently appear that these thy Reflecting Queries are the Fruit of that Spirit that lusteth to Envy and appears with two Faces V. Dost thou not remember that at a Quarterly-Meeting in Glocester-shire suddenly after thy last departure from Bristol there was a Person that judged me not sit to judge in that Meeting because I had secured part of my goods without Doors though I had left * Note My Fines have been above ninety pounds Sterling and I have more than double that value unsecured and subject to the Spoilers at the place of my Residence besides what hath been distrained from me already Enough subject to the Spoilers besides and dost thou not remember that none of the said meeting declared any Approbation of his so doing and that thou thy self then present manifested a dislike thereof as well as several others after thy usual manner thus Whisht Whisht Dost thou not also remember that I then signified to this effect If what I had done was a crime those who were accounted as the chiefest amongst us were guilty of Crimes of the like nature Dost thou not remember that nothing was then said in Answer thereto either by thee or any other and if 't was then a Crime why didst thou not then inform the Meeting and to speaking thine own Language become a reproof to that Spirit and to me in particular If it be not a crime why hast thou sent forth thy Paper of Queries which plainly carries a Line of Reflexion on such as have or may secure from the Spoiler when I cannot but believe that thou dost know those who have not accounted their Lives too dear to offer up for the Testimony of Truth Witness many faithful Friends in Reading or near it and would not have departed a foot from the Meeting where their testimony for truth hath been concerned though thou hast proved a Shrinker have notwithstanding secured their Estates for their Families and never have been exhorted to the contrary or reproved by thee so far as ever I could hear VI. Whether thou hast not contrary to thy own Conscience and thy former Counsel written thy Paper of Queries to gratifie that envious Spirit which exclaims against me for securing Part of my Estate And whether thou therein hast hot acted that behind my Back by directing it to be read at the Meetings which I have and usually do frequent that thou wast either afraid or ashamed to have spoken to my Face in the hearing of others lest openly in the view of the Country thou shouldst have been detected for appearing with two Faces for so do I now believe thou hast manifested thy self and that one of these Appearances is but the Fruit of that Spirit in thee which lusteth to Envy because I remember not that ever I heard before the time of my late securing something from the Persecutors that any Friends judged one another in that respect or that any from a Principle of Conscience refused to do the thing that I then did which was no more than what I often have done when there was occasion for the Preservation of my Outward Estate in that day wherein thy respect was most unto me though now this must be made use of as the only Matter of fact to stain my Reputation and to render me one that 's out of Truth VII Whether it be not better to secure a man's outward Substance to pay his Debts and maintain his Family when he is capable so to do and keep stedfast in his Testimony at Meetings than when Persecutors come to shift out of Meeting whereby both Body and Estate too may be saved as thou hast done VIII Whether it be better so to do as aforesaid than to let all lie open to the Persecutors and depend upon thee and to solicite at Council board Thy Language to Thomas Pierce of this City occasions this last Query which as he hath said was on this wise or to this effect What would you do were it not for Me and a few more to appear for you at Council-Table or before King and Counsel IX Whether thy writing so much of trusting God being compared with thy aforesaid Boasting Language to Thomas Pierce which hath proved but like a Reed of Egypt shews not confusion X. Whether it be fit for one that feeds of the fat of the Land and lives in fullness of Plenty attended in many respects like an earthly Prince and that hath twelve or thirteen hundred-pounds with the increase thereof for many years if any be well secured out of the reach of the Spoilers and Persecutors to admonish a company of Poor Innocent Harmless Friends that may have three or four Cows a piece to feed themselves and Children not to secure them from the Spoilers and if it be not fit for such an one so to admonish I then query Whether thou art not the man that art so qualified and who in effect hast so admonished XI Whether a man under the aforesaid Qualifications and Circumstances can by such an admonition as aforesaid answer God's Witness in the Consciences of such to whom he is so known especially when no better Care is taken by the Admonisher for the Relief of such when their all is gone than this viz. Never heed the Fleece will grow again don't despair trust the Lord spread your sufferings before the Judges be careful to send your sufferings to the quarterly Meeting that so they may be brought up once a year to London to be recorded XII Whether or no a suffering for the Testimony of such False Prophets as Solomon Eccles hath proved himself to be as is manifest by his prophesying John Story 's death within one year and since expired can be called a suffering for the Gospel of Christ and if not whether it be not better to secure ones outward Substance from the Spoilers than to let it lie open to be taken away for Fines imposed for the preaching of such False Prophets and since 't is said Solomon Eccles manifested the same first to thee I query whether thou wast not an Encourager of the said False Prophet because 't is said he cryes thee up as one that 's greater than Moses or whether thou didst become a Reproof to him XIII Whether or no it be not the fruit of an Englighmed Understanding in those who are called dark Spirits to secure what they have from being taken away for Fines imposed for the babling of such whose great business at Meeting is to rail against
whether 't is not the Fruit of great Partiality and respect of Persons in G.F. to have so great a Regard to the Securing of her Estate for her and her Children and yet take occasion to Query Whether the Spirit that does so meaning Making away Estates c. for Fear of the Spoiler in time of Persecution c. is not the Spirit of the World that doth lust to Envy which is Earthly Sensual and Devilish which doubtless will be taken by some to be intended by him as a Reflection on such as should so do without a Dispensation from him To be plain If G. F. had so great a Care for others not outwardly related to him I know no Reason why I may not take the same Care for my VVife and Children which are many though I have no Dispensation from him so to do and why he should Condemn me for so doing I understand not unless he thinks my Care therein may prevent an Outward Blasting which some of his Temporizing party have Prophesied will come upon me and all that joyn to that Spirit as they were pleased to Phrase it In my 5th Query it 's thus said And dost thou not remember that at a Quarterly-Meeting in Glocester-shire suddenly after thy last departure from Bristol there was a Person that judged me not fit to judge in that Meeting because I had secured a part of my goods without Doors though I had left above two Hundred Pounds value of Moveable Goods subject to the Spoilers besides and dost thou not remember that none of the said meeting declared any Approbation of his so doing and that thou thy self then present manifested a dislike thereof as well as leveral others after thy usual manner thus Whisht Whisht Dost thou not also remember that I then signified to this effect If what I had done was a crime those who were accounted of the chiefest amongst us were guilty of Crimes of the like nature This G. F. in answer thereto denies not but in effect confesseth it by these his words But I did not say nothing else but whisht whisht I now desire the Reader to compare this with his before-cited words viz. I know them to be all meaning all my thirteen Queries before spoken of False and Malicious Charges and then consider whether he hath not herein belyed his Conscience at a large rate I now come to reckon with George Fox for his Answer to my 10th Query a part whereof is Whether 't is fit for one that feeds of the fat of the Land c. and that hath twelve or thirteen hundred pounds well secured out of the reach of the Spoilers c. to admonish a company of Poor Innocent Harmless Friends that have three or four Cows a piece to feed themselves and Children not to secure them from the spoilers c if it be not fit for such an one so to Admonish I then Query whether thou art not the man that art so qualified and who in effect hast so admonished To this a part of G. F's Answer is on this wise The Lord knows I had neither twelve or thirteen hundred Pounds in my life secured out of the Reach of the Spoiler It 's true I might have had something in the other Powers dayes that descended to me as my Birth-Right but I gave it away to my Relations not for fear of Persecution or to make it away from the Spoilers On this I observe that he doth not deny that he had twelve or thirteen hundred Pounds but he denies that he had so much secured And as to his speaking of something that descended to him as his Birth-Right 't is probable enough that some in Ages to come comparing that with his not denying to have had twelve or thirteen hundred Pounds and that he gave not away what descended to him by Birth-Right for fear of Persecution may conclude that he had some Estate by Birth-Right which might be accounted worth twelve or thirteen hundred Pounds or at least very considerable But I cannot take that to bespeak so much Credit and Repute to him as a plain stating that matter would be because I can truly say and so I believe many more can That in his Person I accounted the Testimony of the Apostle Paul fulfilled who said God hath chosen the Foolish things of the World to confound the Wise and God hath chosen the Weak things of the World to confound the Mighty and Base things of the VVorld and things which are Despised hath God chosen yea and things which are not to bring to Nought things that are that no flesh should glory in his Presence And partly on this score can I in the fear of the Lord say and that justly too that he was to me whilst he kept his Place and Habitation in the Truth truly Honourable and therefore I am persuaded that he would have added more to his Repute and Name to have acquainted the Reader if he would needs discourse of his Birth-Right that he descended of Poor Parentage and that before he went abroad to preach the Light he was a Journyman Shoemaker and as such an one wrought Journy work with George Gee of Manchester if he so did as Report saith he did and so have given Glory to God that in years past he made Choice of so poor mean and despised a Person through whom to preach the Everlasting Light Christ Jesus the Guide to the Father and if G. F. had ever since he went abroad to Preach laboured whilst able and at leisure with his hands as the Primitive Apostles did or otherwise been industrious in an Outward Calling that the Gospel of Christ might not be Chargeable and so had gotten twelve or thirteen hundred pounds that also might have tended to his Repute especially if instead of discoursing of that which descended unto him by Birth-Right he had signified that out of the twelve or thirteen hundred Pounds he would take Care of his poor Relations that so their Outward Man might be somewhat more Refresht and Comforted with necessary Food Rayment and Living than of late Years they have been and that whilst he was reputed to be in the Enjoyment of all things needful as to Outward Enjoyments The Consideration of these things brings to my remembrance G. F's Language in another Case and occasions me to use the like Poor George I am forry for thee and pitty thee and one Reason amongst many more that I could now give why on this Occasion I so say is this I well remember the day was and yet is wherein I neither did or do measure him according to the Nonsense of his Words but the Intent and Meaning of his Mind and yet his disingenuity towards me is so great as that it appears that one of his chiefest Defences for himself next to a Lying Tongue and suffering False Certificates to be made use of in his favour of which more anon hath been to pervert sound and undetectable words to render his Friend
a part 2d Part p. 85 to 92. Iews An Objection raised Whether they acted not from the Light within in Crucifying Christ An Answer to the said Objection 2 d. Part p. 9 10. Ignorant The way how the Ignorant have been Ensnared 4 th Part p. 32 33. Imposer See Church-Government Independency The written Words of a Publick Preacher insinuating as if the Tendency of some of our Spirits were down-right Independencies are treated on shewing That we are Principled to depend on the Sufficiency of God's Grace and not on Man c. 1 st Part p. 38 to 42. Infallibility As relating to Internal Things annexed only to the Spirit of God 2 d. Part p. 11 12. How Men endued with the Infallible Spirit are Deceived Fallible 2 d. Part p. 12 13. An Animadversion on this Sentence That the Church of Christ is Infallible and cannot Err 3 d. Part p. 13. Iniquity not distinguish't by our Opposers from Conscientious Scruples 3 d. Part p. 50 51. Innovation See Apostacy Innovators 3 d. Part p. 49. A Part of their Doctrine 3 d. Part p. 50. Iohn Story and Iohn Wilkinson Some concerned in drawing up Forty-Four Articles against them confessed under their Hands That 't is not any Personal Trespass against any of them that they charge Iohn Story and Iohn Wilkinson with nor any particular Concern of their own as Men that they are in the Defence of but the Cause of Almighty God and the Wrong they have done to him But yet some of us know and that from their own Writings that their pretended Wrong to God is a Slighting some of George Fox's Rule c. which in some of John Wilkinson's and John Story 's Opposers Sence are to be urged with Severity which is no less than an Enforcing on God's Faithful People 1 st Part p. 86 87 88 89. Iohn Wilkinson writ to some who of late were his Opposers That the Word of the Lord came to him the 20 th Day of the 6 th Moneth 1675. the Import whereof is That the Lord would break his Opposers and turn them one against another about their Orders if they Repent not 4 th Part p. 28. John Wilkinson and John Story their Accusers chuse Judges to Judge the Matters whereof they Accuse them 4 th Part p. 29 30. The Testimony of John Wilkinson and John Story in Relation to Five Heads from whence the Forty-Four Articles of Accusation were drawn up against them relating to Church-Government wherein they particularly bear their Testimony against Payment of Tythes 4 th Part p. 37 38 39 40. Isaac Penington his Testimony touching That Authority which Christ excluded out of his Church and Of the Danger of running into Religious Practices before led thereinto by the Spirit and Of receiving Things for Truths because others see them to be Truths and That the great Error of the Ages of the Apostacy hath been to set up an Outward Order and Uniformity and to make Mens Consciences bow thereto 3 d. Part p. 89 to 98. Iustification and Salvation through Faith in Christ owned and cleared from the Objections of such as have seemed to extend the Benefit of Christs Obedience unto Persons whil'st Sin is reigning in their Mortal Bodies shewing That though such as are in Christ are Redeemed from under the Law which consisted in Carnal Ordinances yet they ought to be subject to the Law of Faith which is accompanyed with Works of Righteousness wrought in Man by the Spirit of God 2 d. Part p. 61 to 71. K KIngdome of GOD Things relating thereto are revealed to the Creature but by one way viz. the Spirit though the Manifestation may be various viz. sometimes through Man or the Scriptures as Instruments and sometimes through Himself 2 d. Part p. 2 3 4. Knowledge without Zeal Some Part of the Fruits thereof discovered 1 st Part p. 73 74 75 76. The Want of Knowledge the Cause of a Perishing Estate and Bowing to Men 2 d. Part p. 25. The Meaning of these Words of the Apostle Knowledge puffeth up 2 d. Part p. 26 27. L LIberty and Forbearance in Robert Barclay's Sence refuted 3 d. Part p 80 81 82. Liberty of Conscience A Description wherein it doth consist 3 d. Part p. 17 18. What that Liberty of the Conscience is that is according to the Gospel In particular it admits of no Liberty to Sin 3 d. Part p. 86 87. Light of Christ What the Measure of it is and the Effects of Obedience to it 1 st Part p. 3 4. See the 2 d. Part p. 2 5 6 7 8. Those who this Day say We were taught to follow the Light in our Consciences and not the Orders of Men and That we will not have Men to Rule over us thereby meaning such Men as being in a Separation from the Establish't Religion by Law would yet be accounted Church-Governours over us utters Language becoming Christians And though Robert Barclay hath reflected on such kind of Language yet 't is proved to be Sound 3 d. Part p. 43 44. M MAgistracy Obedience Active or Passive due to it 2 d. Part p. 30 31 32. Master On what Ground and to whom the word Master is dis-used by us 2 d. Part p. 34. Meetings Some part at least of Nine Meetings for Worship of God in Westmoreland submit their Affairs without Restriction either to Temporal or Spiritual Affairs to Establisht Monthly and Quarterly-Meetings and Discharge the Separates so termed who are reputed to be of Party with John Wilkinson and John Story to concern themselves in their Affairs meaning as by the Scope of their Words appears the Churches Affairs 1 st Part p. 89 90. Such Submission may be by us reasonably taken to be in the Sense of such Submitters a Mark to know a Member of the Church at least in those Parts p. 90. And such their Discharge seems a Token of some Imaginary Authority and Designe of the Exaltation of One Man namely George Fox for which several Reasons are given in the Defamation of others and that the Name of Monethly and Quarterly-Meetings are but as a Conduit to convey it to him p. 90 91 92. See also what is written touching Monethly and Quarterly-Meetings in 1 st Part p. 11 12 13 14 and then consider whether 't is not wholly Irrational that such should assume unto themselves the Title of Church and on that Foot expect Submission p. 14. The Order in Collecting the Sence of such Meetings spoken of 1 st Part p. 14 15. And in what Sence the Counsel in holding such Meetings was embraced and the End thereof 1 st Part p. 15 16. Monethly Quarterly-Meetings of Men and also of Women distinct from Men not owned by us to be Established as a Part of Christ's Government 3 d. Part p. 8 to 14. Womens-Meetings distinct from Men how they came to be held and for what End 1 st Part p. 63 to 67. The General-Meeting hath usually consisted of uncertain Numbers of uncertain Qualifyed Persons 1 st