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the_o apostle_n say_v in_o the_o comparative_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o low_a not_o the_o low_a and_o so_o your_o vulgar_a latin_a translate_v inferiora_fw-la not_o infima_fw-la terrae_fw-la but_o hell_n be_v the_o low_a part_n the_o grave_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o low_a the_o protestant_n that_o there_o be_v a_o local_a place_n of_o torment_n prepare_v for_o the_o devil_n and_o his_o angel_n we_o doubt_v not_o be_v so_o teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n math._n 25.41_o a_o place_n of_o darkness_n 2._o pet._n 2.4_o far_o distant_a from_o the_o heavenly_a mansion_n of_o the_o bless_a luke_n 16.26_o neither_o do_v we_o deny_v but_o that_o it_o may_v be_v in_o the_o earth_n or_o wheresoever_o else_o it_o please_v god_n but_o wheresoever_o hell_n be_v there_o be_v but_o one_o that_o division_n of_o hell_n into_o three_o or_o four_o region_n we_o utter_o condemn_v as_o a_o mere_a devise_n of_o man_n without_o scripture_n and_o this_o we_o say_v 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people_n be_v say_v to_o have_v sit_v in_o darkness_n before_o the_o light_n of_o the_o gospel_n by_o the_o preach_n of_o jesus_n christ_n do_v shine_v unto_o they_o math._n 4.16_o but_o they_o much_o more_o shall_v be_v and_o be_v keep_v in_o darkness_n that_o be_v condemn_v to_o hell_n where_o they_o feel_v nothing_o but_o the_o horror_n of_o god_n wrath_n his_o eternal_a and_o endless_a curse_n with_o unspeakable_a torment_n now_o in_o soul_n and_o afterward_o both_o in_o body_n &_o soul_n without_o all_o comfort_n or_o hope_n of_o refresh_v utter_o exclude_v from_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n wherefore_o it_o be_v not_o the_o place_n but_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o absence_n of_o his_o spirit_n that_o cause_v such_o endless_a and_o unspeakable_a punishment_n argu._n 3_o as_o for_o your_o distinction_n of_o hell_n the_o brim_n whereof_o you_o say_v be_v limbus_n patrum_fw-la the_o middle_a part_n purgatory_n the_o low_a and_o nethermost_a hell_n itself_o the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a in_o augustine_n time_n it_o be_v not_o know_v for_o first_o that_o the_o bosom_n of_o abraham_n be_v part_n of_o hell_n he_o utter_o deny_v apparet_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la membrum_fw-la inferorum_fw-la tantae_fw-la illius_fw-la foelicitatis_fw-la â—inum_fw-la that_o bosom_n of_o so_o great_a bliss_n can_v be_v no_o member_n or_o part_n of_o hell_n epist._n 99_o again_o purgatory_n he_o utter_o refuse_v acknowledge_v but_o two_o place_n heaven_n for_o the_o faithful_a hell_n for_o the_o damn_a and_o unbeliever_n tertium_fw-la locum_fw-la penitus_fw-la ignoramus_fw-la imo_fw-la nec_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o scripture_n sanctis_fw-la invenimus_fw-la a_o three_o place_n we_o be_v utter_o ignorant_a of_o yea_o we_o find_v in_o holy_a scripture_n that_o it_o be_v not_o august_n hypognost_n the_o nineteenth_o controversy_n of_o matter_n which_o be_v in_o question_n concern_v the_o divine_a nature_n of_o christ._n this_o controversy_n contain_v three_o question_n first_o whether_o 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