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A89189 A sober ansvvere to an angry pamphlet, or, Animadversions, by way of reply, to Robert Barclays late book (entituled, Truth cleared of calumnies) in answere to A dialogue between a Quaker and a stable Christian by VVilliam Mitchell. Mitchell, William, 17th cent. 1671 (1671) Wing M2294; ESTC R43708 69,116 149

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1._o cor._n 2.2_o speak_v not_o of_o christ_n as_o crucify_v outward_o but_o of_o he_o as_o he_o be_v inward_o crucify_v in_o the_o corinthian_n as_o the_o word_n import_v be_v right_o translate_v out_o of_o the_o greek_a i_o determine_v not_o to_o know_v any_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o e._n in_o you_o answer_n here_o he_o have_v no_o ground_n to_o except_v against_o our_o translation_n the_o word_n be_v solid_o and_o sound_o enough_o translate_v for_o by_o a_o ordinary_a enallage_n which_o particular_o be_v call_v protheseon_n parallaga_n which_o be_v the_o put_n of_o one_o preposition_n for_o another_o in_o be_v render_v among_o and_o this_o be_v consonant_a to_o the_o hebrew_n and_o greek_a see_v genes_n 34.30_o you_o have_v make_v i_o to_o stink_v bejoshev_n haaretz_fw-fr in_o incoll●s_n ter●ae_fw-la and_o yet_o it_o be_v translate_v among_o the_o inhabitant_n of_o the_o earth_n then_o act_v 6.8_o stephen_n do_v great_a wonder_n and_o miracle_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o populo_fw-la and_o yet_o who_o just_o quarrel_n if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o wonder_n and_o miracle_n be_v wrought_v among_o the_o people_n then_o luke_n 1.28_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d benedicta_fw-la tu_fw-la in_o mulieribus_fw-la but_o yet_o it_o must_v be_v render_v for_o make_v it_o good_a sense_n bless_v art_n thou_o inter_fw-la mulieres_fw-la among_o woman_n 1._o cor._n 2.6_o we_o speak_v wisdom_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o perfectis_fw-la in_o the_o perfect_a and_o yet_o the_o skilful_a translator_n render_v it_o inter_fw-la perfectos_fw-la among_o the_o perfect_a paul_n in_o deliver_v his_o message_n be_v not_o in_o they_o though_o they_o want_v not_o inward_a fruit_n of_o that_o gospel_n which_o he_o preach_v to_o and_o among_o they_o that_o it_o
of_o duty_n the_o joy_n that_o be_v in_o a_o little_a hearty_a pray_v be_v beyond_o all_o the_o joy_n that_o the_o world_n can_v afford_v isaiah_n 56.7_o four_o person_n can_v pray_v aright_o without_o the_o spirit_n and_o therefore_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o wicked_a be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o abomination_n unto_o the_o lord_n prov._n 15.8_o but_o it_o must_v be_v observe_v that_o though_o prayer_n without_o the_o spirit_n be_v a_o abomination_n to_o god_n yet_o omission_n of_o prayer_n be_v double_a abomination_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o to_o pray_v without_o the_o spirit_n be_v a_o sin_n for_o the_o manner_n but_o to_o neglect_v prayer_n be_v a_o sin_n both_o as_o to_o matter_n and_o manner_n he_o add_v whosoever_o can_v pray_v to_o the_o lord_n indeed_o let_v he_o pray_v but_o that_o any_o can_v pray_v without_o the_o spirit_n that_o we_o deny_v answer_n may_v he_o not_o according_a to_o this_o way_n of_o reason_v take_v man_n off_o from_o eat_v if_o they_o can_v eat_v to_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n indeed_o then_o let_v they_o eat_v but_o that_o they_o can_v eat_v to_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n without_o the_o spirit_n that_o be_v deny_v likewise_o he_o may_v take_v man_n off_o from_o the_o work_n of_o their_o call_n for_o as_o the_o pray_n so_o the_o plough_v of_o the_o wicked_a be_v sin_n prov._n 21.4_o a_o motion_n of_o the_o spirit_n be_v a_o encouragement_n to_o but_o it_o be_v not_o our_o alone_a warrant_n for_o prayer_n god_n in_o his_o word_n have_v command_v prayer_n 1._o thess_n 5.17_o pray_v without_o cease_v in_o obedience_n to_o this_o command_n we_o ought_v to_o set_v to_o the_o duty_n and_o if_o it_o be_v allege_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v when_o we_o have_v the_o spirit_n without_o cease_v but_o not_o otherwise_o it_o may_v as_o well_o be_v say_v that_o child_n shall_v honour_v their_o parent_n and_o husband_n love_v their_o wife_n when_o they_o have_v a_o motion_n of_o the_o spirit_n to_o it_o but_o in_o the_o absence_n of_o this_o motion_n they_o may_v omit_v these_o duty_n he_o ask_v what_o ground_n i_o have_v to_o believe_v that_o some_o quaker_n for_o the_o space_n of_o a_o whole_a year_n have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o once_o bow_v a_o knee_n to_o call_v upon_o god_n in_o their_o family_n answer_n there_o be_v too_o much_o ground_n for_o the_o belief_n of_o it_o their_o infrequency_n in_o family_n prayer_n be_v too_o palpable_a one_o of_o they_o confess_v who_o i_o forbear_v to_o name_n that_o now_o he_o be_v come_v to_o that_o pitch_n that_o he_o pray_v always_o and_o though_o heretofore_o he_o be_v wont_a to_o call_v his_o family_n together_o and_o pray_v with_o they_o yet_o he_o have_v not_o do_v so_o for_o a_o twelve_o month_n past_a be_v this_o a_o louly_a religion_n which_o take_v man_n off_o from_o family_n prayer_n it_o be_v a_o miserable_a shift_n to_o tell_v that_o friend_n of_o truth_n who_o have_v any_o who_o they_o can_v join_v with_o do_v meet_v wait_v and_o pray_v together_o now_o grant_v that_o person_n in_o quaker_n family_n be_v enemy_n to_o truth_n will_v it_o not_o be_v a_o work_n of_o charity_n and_o demonstration_n of_o love_n and_o tenderness_n to_o their_o soul_n to_o pray_v with_o they_o and_o for_o they_o must_v not_o abraham_n keep_v up_o religion_n in_o his_o family_n because_o a_o ishmael_n be_v in_o it_o nor_o david_n because_o of_o the_o presence_n of_o absolom_n page_n 69._o he_o look_v upon_o i_o as_o one_o whole_o unacquainted_a with_o the_o way_n and_o motion_n of_o the_o spirit_n for_o suppose_v that_o a_o impulse_n of_o the_o spirit_n may_v be_v deny_v for_o many_o year_n answer_n be_v there_o not_o ground_n to_o suppose_v that_o man_n may_v turn_v loose_a negligent_a and_o defective_a in_o wait_v even_o for_o several_a year_n if_o so_o than_o the_o motion_n of_o the_o spirit_n may_v be_v deny_v to_o they_o which_o he_o acknowledge_v be_v frequent_a but_o to_o those_o that_o wait_v for_o they_o and_o therefore_o all_o that_o time_n that_o they_o who_o neglect_v to_o wait_v want_v the_o motion_n of_o the_o spirit_n they_o must_v not_o adventure_v upon_o prayer_n yea_o they_o must_v not_o pray_v though_o they_o be_v at_o the_o gate_n of_o death_n and_o in_o danger_n of_o present_a drown_n it_o be_v true_a he_o conceive_v that_o at_o such_o a_o season_n the_o breathe_n of_o the_o spirit_n will_v not_o be_v want_v to_o the_o saint_n but_o what_o shall_v the_o wicked_a do_v in_o this_o case_n must_v they_o keep_v silent_a shall_v it_o not_o be_v lawful_a for_o they_o to_o follow_v the_o advice_n which_o the_o apostle_n give_v to_o simon_n magus_n act._n 8.22_o pray_v god_n if_o perhaps_o the_o thought_n of_o thy_o heart_n may_v be_v forgive_v thou_o the_o quaker_n principle_n be_v that_o man_n shall_v not_o pray_v without_o a_o motion_n of_o the_o spirit_n now_o suppose_v that_o person_n contract_v guilt_n by_o their_o not_o wait_v hereby_o provoke_v the_o lord_n to_o withhold_v the_o motion_n of_o his_o spirit_n from_o they_o then_o these_o motion_n be_v withhold_v their_o not_o pray_v be_v not_o sin_n and_o therefore_o they_o need_v not_o to_o be_v trouble_v for_o their_o omission_n of_o prayer_n now_o do_v not_o this_o tend_v to_o lull_v people_n asleep_a in_o security_n and_o to_o keep_v they_o from_o charge_v themselves_o with_o that_o sin_n which_o without_o repentance_n god_n will_v charge_v upon_o they_o for_o he_o will_v call_v sinner_n to_o a_o account_n for_o their_o omission_n as_o well_o as_o for_o their_o commission_n sect_n ii_o quakerism_n tend_v to_o render_v mortification_n of_o sin_n useless_a he_o ask_v page_n 70._o whether_o mortification_n of_o sin_n be_v useless_a where_o the_o end_n of_o it_o which_o be_v perfection_n be_v attain_v answer_n there_o be_v a_o twofold_a perfection_n namely_o comparative_a and_o absolute_a the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o both_o these_o kind_n of_o perfection_n philipp_n 3._o and_o deny_v to_o himself_o a_o absolute_a complete_a perfection_n verse_n 12._o not_o as_o though_o i_o have_v already_o attain_v either_o be_v already_o perfect_a yet_o he_o outstripped_n many_o other_o in_o holiness_n and_o so_o have_v a_o comparative_a perfection_n verse_n 13._o let_v we_o therefore_o as_o many_o as_o be_v perfect_a be_v thus_o mind_v now_o when_o there_o be_v a_o absolute_a complete_a perfection_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n the_o quaker_n plead_v for_o without_o the_o least_o indwelling_a corruption_n and_o sin_n to_o such_o there_o be_v no_o use_n for_o mortification_n person_n need_v not_o to_o be_v take_v up_o in_o kill_a sin_n which_o be_v the_o importance_n of_o the_o word_n mortify_v that_o have_v not_o sin_n in_o they_o to_o be_v kill_v he_o quarrel_v at_o my_o say_n the_o opinion_n of_o a_o sinless_a perfection_n in_o this_o life_n wound_v the_o very_a vital_n of_o religion_n and_o here_o the_o quaker_n triumph_v but_o it_o be_v before_o the_o victory_n ask_v whether_o the_o vital_n of_o religion_n consist_v in_o sin_v or_o not_o sin_v answer_n the_o vital_n of_o religion_n consist_v in_o the_o mean_v appoint_v by_o god_n and_o diligent_a improvement_n thereof_o for_o subdue_a and_o bear_v down_o sin_n such_o as_o prayer_n repentance_n mortification_n believe_v application_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o though_o the_o quaker_n grant_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v needful_a for_o attain_v unto_o perfection_n yet_o suppose_v a_o sinless_a perfection_n to_o be_v actual_o attain_v unto_o by_o man_n in_o this_o world_n what_o need_n be_v there_o then_o to_o pray_v for_o pardon_n of_o sin_n to_o repent_v of_o sin_n apply_v christ_n blood_n for_o cleanse_v from_o sin_n see_v there_o be_v no_o sin_n to_o be_v pardon_v repent_v of_o or_o cleanse_v from_o and_o therefore_o the_o gentleman_n not_o deny_v that_o such_o consequence_n do_v flow_v from_o his_o principle_n he_o be_v fain_o to_o shift_v say_v that_o they_o who_o come_v to_o perfection_n witness_v the_o true_a use_n of_o these_o thing_n but_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o shall_v remember_v that_o under_o a_o pretence_n of_o perfection_n he_o take_v they_o off_o from_o the_o practice_n and_o use_v of_o the_o aforementioned_a duty_n and_o mean_n and_o so_o christianity_n in_o the_o vital_n of_o it_o be_v strike_v at_o he_o accuse_v i_o of_o confusion_n and_o contradiction_n because_o as_o he_o say_v i_o will_v infer_v a_o sinless_a man_n to_o be_v a_o sin_v man_n answer_n be_v it_o either_o confusion_n or_o a_o contradiction_n to_o affirm_v one_o of_o the_o quaker_n conceited_o sinless_a man_n to_o be_v sinful_a who_o pretend_v to_o be_v without_o sin_n yet_o discover_v much_o sin_n by_o their_o pride_n passion_n bitterness_n censure_v and_o condemn_v other_o and_o vilify_a they_o by_o opprobrious_a term_n and_o rail_a accusation_n if_o such_o