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A15819 Gods arraignement of hypocrites with an inlargement concerning Gods decree in ordering sinne. As likewise a defence of Mr. Calvine against Bellarmine; and of Mr. Perkins against Arminius. Yates, John, d. ca. 1660. 1615 (1615) STC 26081; ESTC S120537 353,274 440

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men neither are they plagued with them but pride is as a chaine vnto them and crueltie couereth them as a garment What then can be answered for God surely still the consequence is not good bruit beasts may goe to the slaughterhouse without all baiting and it were questionlesse the part of a mad man to disturbe them that goe as heart would wish neither would the deuill for a thousand worlds that these men should once be disquieted to turn back againe and therefore yet you sticke in the question What then will you answer to an argument drawne from their life their eyes stand out with fatnesse they haue more then heart can wish they haue their tongues at libertie power to oppresse boast of it and yet presume thēy shall not be controlled for they dare speake against heauen and suffer their tongues to walke thorough the earth therefore God neither doth neither can he do any good to Israel Let Moses come to Pharaoh with let my people goe he shall be answered not as the deuills answered the Exorcists Act. 19.15 Iesus we acknowledge and Paul we knowe but who are yee It had been well if he had but said Aaron and Moses God I acknowledge and his p eople I know but who are yee that are so impudent with your king this is not his voice but who is God and Exod. 10.10 Let the Lord so bee with you as I will let you goe and your children behold for euill is before your face Here is blasphemie and execration of Gods people he imagines euill against them the Lord shall not preuent it and he desires that the Lord had no better affection to them then he was minded to let them goe What shall be answered to this proud argument that brings all into it they haue the controlment of heauen and earth and therefore how shall the Lord be good to Israel Well O flesh yet is God good to Israel this is but a small matter for neither heauen nor earth are in their hands it is an easie matter to turne their owne swords into their owne bowels for they haue fedde indeede but it is become a surfet and therefore if presently they be not like oxen knocked in the head they will pine away and neither God nor man shall haue profit by them they haue been licentious but soone may they be cooled they haue spoken wickedly of their oppression but a small matter will grauell them and bring them vnto an non plus they haue presumed but soone may they despaire they haue set their mouths against heauen but suddenly while they are about their mischiefe there may shine a most fearefull light yea lightning and thunder from heauen strike them to the ground make euerie ioynt breake a sunder the whole bodie tremble and the heart astonied neither shall they heare any voice from heauen Send for Ananias to put his hands vpon them that they may recouer their sight and haue their hearts comforted yet shall they heare a voyce from heauen Why haue you persecuted me it is hard for you to kicke against my prickes I will make your consciences pricke you to the death the sting shall neuer out of it there shall not be a Moses nor an Aaron to pray for you though you confesse with Pharaoh we haue sinned the Lord is righteous but I and my people are wicked Surely the spirit of God is strong my owne testimonie is answered the death and life of the wicked cannot euince the cause therefore I bring a third sort of reasons euen from the godly themselues v. 10. his people turne hither for waters of a full cup are wrung out to them Hence euen they say how doth God knowe it or is there knowledge in the most high wee dare boldly say the wicked prosper and increase in riches we haue clensed our hearts in vaine and washed our hands in innocencie to no purpose for daily haue we beene punished and chastened euery morning What may be said to this argument surely the testimonie of my brethren doth presse mee sore that they should bee so discouraged yet I hope when they shall haue considered my arguments propounded for the defence of their cause they shall recant their errour and say If I iudge thus behold the generation of thy children are vp against mee I haue therfore trespassed the reason was because I thought to finde out the discourse by my naturall reason but I confesse it was too painefull for mee therefore O Spirit the comforter of thy Church let me heare the arguments that will beare waight in the ballance of Gods sanctuarie First therefore I will begin with an artificiall argument which all men may gather out of the workes of God euen of his iustice They are set in slipperie places they stand but vpon the yee and therefore God may soone cast them into desolation which all the world may see to be done for how suddenly are they destroyed perished and horribly consumed all is but a dreame of their prosperitie but when I am awaked to see it and they to feele it then shall I consider my heauenly felicitie contemne all their vaine pompe and know assuredly that God makes all their image to be despised therefore I ingeniously confesse that the vexing of my heart and the pricking in my reines was because I was too foolish euen as a beast before God yet was I happie in all this for by faith I was alwaies with God and that my faith might not fall he hath holden me by his right hand Secondly for my selfe I haue taken this arguemnt that God will guide mee by his counsell and afterward receiue me to his glorie Thirdly I dare appeale vnto mine owne soule from both these arguments vnto a third whom haue I in heauen but God and I haue desired none in earth before him Fourthly I drawe an arguments from mine owne weakenesse and the daily experience I haue had of Gods goodnesse my flesh faileth and my heart also but God is the strength of mine heart and my portion for euer Therefore now I come to the determination of the question and thus I determine it for the wicked Loe they that withdrawe themselues from God shall perish thou destroyest all them that goe a whoring from thee and for my selfe I haue found that the deepest disputations doe alwaies bring forth the best conclusions and safest determinations therefore thus I resolue That as for me it is good for mee to drawe neere to God therefore I haue put my trust in the Lord God that I may declare all his works See but one place more Psal 77. When I entred the consideration of the dayes of olde and the yeares of auncient time called to remembrance my song of thankesginug in the night which vsually I sung in my prosperitie and now thinking vpon God am troubled and when I pray my spirit is full of auguish Thou keepest myne eies awaking all the long night it is time therefore to commune
eternal predestination A point that hath troubled the Church of God more then euer the deuill vexed that young man in the Gospel This hath made many no better then lunaticke cast others into the fire of contention and drowned numbers in the waters of euerlasting perdition Now alas what good soule would not downe on his knees cry with all his heart Lord Iesus take pitie on this destressed world restore them to their senses deliuer them from these fierce fiers and pul them out of these dangerous waters often hath it bin in the hands of thy Pastours but as yet they could not heale vp these brawles surely it is because we are a faithlesse and crooked generation Long hast thou been with vs and we haue had a large time of thy patience and it could not be but that thou would haue brought it to passe long before this except our vnbeleife had hindred it Arminius hath taken in hand to worke this cure but I feare he hath raised vp more spirits then can easily be laid againe Questionlesse as our Sauiour Christ spoke of that kind of possession that it could not come out but by prayer and fasting so no more can these dangerous spirits of error be quieted and laid to sleepe but by the prayers and fastings of Gods faithfull people Isa 58.3 condemnes all fasting to seeke our owne wills and require our owne debts it cannot be good to fast for strife and to smite with the hand of wickednesse Surely I haue heard that when Arminius was intreated to defend the receiued opinion of Predestination in the reformed Churches did so distast it that hee broached in his readings the cleane contrarie whereupon strange rumours were raised that he was become a maine hereticke It was Bezas iudgement of him when hee was a young man that hee would either prooue an admirable minister of God or a dangerous enemie to Gods truth These reports are not to be passed ouer without consideration for though he seeme to cry downe the former rumours in a booke now extant yet both the booke and the rumours together demonstrate that he sought an opposite wil to the reformed Churches We denie not but that Gods true Church may erre and so his will might not be against Gods will yet for my part I esteeme so reuerently of my auncients and the truth admitted defended and propagated by them that I dare not otherwise iudge then that Arminius in fasting and prayer sought his owne will and therefore no maruell if he haue laboured to striue with that worthy man M. Perkins In the beginning of his booke he professeth nothing but brotherly loue yet I intreat you obserue but the whole carriage of his booke and see how he scannes euery word exults triumphs ouer him as though he meant to censure him for a blasphemous hereticke against God The man is dead his booke is now his memoriall and to my reading sauours of nothing more but that he meant to smite this worthie man if not with the fist of wickednesse yet of hard censure and iudgement This likewise may appeare in his followers who beare a most deadly hatred to all that professe M. Calvin and his best followers and most shamefully rayle on them the Papists shall find more loue at their hands then a Caluinist Alas my brethren is this the fast that the Lord hath chosen No no the Lord would haue vs loose the bands of wickednesse take off the heauie burdens of sinne and heresie deale the bread of life to the hungrie bring the poore that wander into Gods house not hide our selues from our own flesh If wee would consider this then would the Lord make our light breake forth as the morning our health growe speedily righteousnesse goe before vs and the whole glorie of the Lord embrace vs. The want of this makes the Papists reioyce and triumph to see vs their professed enemies to quarrell and strike at one another Oh that I had a bodie to fast night and day and a heart to pray that the Lord would reconcile vs and make his glorious truth shine among vs to expell that darknesse that makes the diuision When my booke was in the presse I intended nothing but the meere explaining of Gods ordering of sinne and so make vse of it but I could not in my minde be at rest vntill I had attempted some thing in this maine controversie I acknowledge it might haue bin much better atcheiued by some of the Lords great Worthies vnto the least degree of whose strength I haue not attained But being as yet neglected by them I thought it better notwithstanding my great weaknes to say something in the loue of the truth then to passe it ouer with silence I hope it will put others in mind who are of greater abilitie what they ought to doe and I would to God my labours might serue as foyles to shew the greater glory of their surpassing excellencies or as courser wares to make their finer stuffes more saleable and commendable For mine owne part I am so resolute that I put it in my creed as an error that I will neuer beleeue and I hope in God it is now at his height Christian Reader be not offended with my young yeares to make thee distast my timely writing I hope I haue keept me to Gods truth esteeme that and then iudge mee as thou pleasest Consider what is said and the Lord giue vs vnderstanding in all things Thine in the Lord IOHN YATES ¶ To euery godly zealous and sincere Professor of Gods true Religion the wishes of the Author THis vacant white I could not passe away Perchance the blacke is worser thou wilt say The worst is said and better is my creed That thou in this my loue wilt euer read To giue and take is neither more or lesse But loue is more then can our gifts expresse The former tearmes as relates thine and mine Let 's passe proud tearmes and then the gift is thine Thine as his owne if better were his owne Loue is the best hence let the rest be knowne As purest wine runnes from the homely presse So plainest loue giues comfort in dissresse Perfumes haue sweetest smell which fire find And loue the greatest grace which zeale can mind The rose in still is sweeter then on stalke Distill thy loue and sweete shall be thy talke My good to God is none to thee is all Yet both to God must for a blessing call The sillie Bee suckes honie from the weedes But flowers seene full soone on fairest feeds Make some thing of the worst but gaine the best That after death thou may haue happie rest The presse hath stamp'd these lines for thee to presse A deeper stampe then can my lines expresse Presse not my skill for art presume my heart As thine that loues no further for to starte The gift is thine by due the debt is mine God grant thee ioy in reading of each line Amen The generall heads of the