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A28531 The second apologie to Balthazar Tylcken treating of the eternall predestination and election of God, and of the incarnation, or becoming man and person, of Christ, and concerning the Virgin Mary / written in the yeare 1621, finished the 3. of July by Jacob Behme, also called Teutonicus Philosophus ; Englished by John Sparrow.; Zweyte Schutz-Schrift wieder Balthasar Tilken. English Böhme, Jakob, 1575-1624.; Sparrow, John, 1615-1665? 1661 (1661) Wing B3416; ESTC R14771 54,352 66

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me is given to see as sharply and accutely as any one can search Mark this which followeth 227. NOw when the Image was faded or disappeared what did God with it did he let it fall quite away and remaine in Death No. Then instantly the Doore of his Mercy set it selfe Open and said The Womans Seed shall Crush the Serpents head 228. Then the Deare Name JESUS incorporated it selfe in the faded disappeared Image and the Mark or Limit in this faded disappeared Image became strengthened which with the Revelation or Manifestation stood in the Body or Womb and Seed of the Virgin Mary as a propagated Seed for if that had not been so then had all those before Christs Birth been Lost 229. For the high Noble Virgin of the Wisdome of God with which Adam in his heavenly in breathed Spirit was Espoused or Married that is Immortall that presented it self in the Light of Life to Man viz to Adam and Eve and warneth them of the ungodly wayes and continually sheweth through the Propheticall Spirit the Limit or Mark of the Covenant where it will with the Deare Name JESUS with the Word and power of the true Deity open it selfe againe in Mans Soul The Second Part. Of the Becoming Man or Incarnation and Person of Christ How Christ is become Man or Incarnate out of No Strange Seed but out of Mary and yet indeed not in Eves Earthly Essence the Holy Ghost was the Man or Masculine therein 230. MY Opponent tell me here what the Womans Seed is upon which you found your Election you say the Children of God must become generated out of the Womans Seed as the Dew out of the Morning Rednesse and reject Adam's and Eves Seed and make a Strange Seed and yet God said Through the Womans Seed shall the Head of the Serpent be Crushed Who is the Woman is it Eve No that you will not admit Why Because otherwise you cannot Cloake your Election or Predestination 231. Well now if you be Learned as indeed you goe about mightily to Colour your Cause with Texts of Scripture then shew in the Holy Scripture that God entended a Strange Woman you say that Mary is not from us Men but is a Virgin from Eternity that you must and shall prove or else it shall have neither place nor beliefe 232. But I will demonstrate with strong Arguments that the Word of Promise goeth upon the Womans Seed viz upon Eve and Adam that is upon the Matter or Matrix which was taken from Adam out of which the Woman was framed out of and in which Adam should have impregnated himselfe if he had stood and had not suffered himselfe to be over-powred 233. For the Woman Eve should have been the propagated Childe but it could not be and therefore she was taken out of Adam's Essence and Bone and was Made a help for him so that the propagation must be performed through TWO 234. Now if Mary Christs Mother be not from us Men then is Christ not the Son of Man as he so very often calleth himself and where then would my poor Soul remaine which lyeth Captive in a darke Dungeon whereas if God would Regenerate it againe as the Dew out of the Morning Rednesse could he not well doe it without becoming Man 235 Besides if Mary were not Man or Humane from us what then would the strange CHRIST be profitable to Me and then it would not be true that the Word is become Flesh Or how could I enter into CHRISTS Suffering Dying and Death if it were not done in Me. 236. But I can with Truth say as the Apostle saith that I beleeve I am Crucified and dead with Christ and rise up in and with him and bear his Image on me 237. Thus saith my Opponent then Christ were conceived in a sinfust Seed if Eve had been the Woman in the Promise No I say not that 238. Christ viz the Living Word was not generated from Mans Seed but in the shut up Seed of the Heavenly part which in Eve faded or disappeared as the dry or withered Rod of Aaron signifieth he became againe the dead parts Sap and Life for the Sinne fell not upon the heavenly part but that dyed understand Substance and not Gods Spirit which rested in the Covenant till at the Limit of the Covenant in Mary 239. The Anger of God Manifested or revealed it self in the Earthly Part as a Life and the heavenly disappeared or faded as God said the day thou eatest thou dyest 240. He meant not solely the Earthly Death for Adam lived Nine hundred and Thirty Yeares e're he dyed and God said the day thou eatest thou dyest that is to the Kingdome of Heaven and livest to the Earthly World as it came to passe 241. I say not that God became Man in Eves Earthly Essence else he must have had a Father but thus himself is the Father 242. Understand this aright The Angel said to Mary The holy Spirit will come upon thee and the Power of the Most High will over-shadow thee in that sticketh the Mark or Key the Angel said he will come upon thee and the Power of the Most High will over-shadow thee Do you not understand this The Holy Spirit would open the shut Center in the Covenant in the Dead Seed and the Word of God would give it self in with living heavenly Substantiality into that which was shut up in Death and become a Flesh the Holy Spirit was instead of a Man or Husband he brought the Heavenly Tincture of the Fathers Fires Glance and of the Eternall Sonnes Lights Glance He was in the Tincture the Life and the Moving What Manner of Essence the Word received or assumed wherein God and Man became One Person Also how Christ is a Creature and how he is No Creature 243. NOw understand me according to its high worth I speak in the Vision or Sight and not in the Opinion or Conceit In Adam when God inbreathed the Soul into him then was the Soul surrounded or endued from the Glance of the Fathers Fire together with the Center to the Fire and also from the Glance of the Light with Divine Substantiality Moving in Gods Wisdome or Substantiality 244. But now in the Fall the Light extinguished and only the Fire with the Center to the Fire remained that was now the Dryed or withered and dead Soul as the Dry Rod of Aaron signified and Old shut up Barren Sarah Abraham's Wife and Old Elizabeth dead in the Womb or Matrix the Mother of John the Baptist 245. This Soul was from Adam thus dry or withered propagated except some Holy or Saints in the Covenant where the Holy Spirit in the Covenant Moved as is to be seen by Old Elizabeth that the Child in the Covenant in the Mothers Body or Womb when the Spirit moved the Childs Spirit when Mary came to her that it leaped for joy in the Spirit of the Messiah when it
my self the Becoming Man or Incarnation of Christ if My Will willeth yet I cannot doe it but Gods Will in Mine 172. My Will and Gods Will must be One for my Saviour hath told Me he will give the Holy Spirit into my Will if I but ask him for it And should not that be true then would my Opponent deny me also to Ask I can Ask THAT none On deny 173. Now Christ hath promised to hear and though I find it not instantly in the power or vertue yet if I ask THEN I beleeve that God hath given me his Spirit and though my heart and all the World should say cleerly No yet I will let the Words of Christ be more certaine to me then all Bablings and Fictions 174. Am I indeed the day Staffe or Rod of Aarow in me lyeth the Drying or withering through Adam but if Christ hath introduced his Sap into my withered Flesh and into my Dark Soul again shall I not take or receive it to my self shall I first expect the Drawing 175. I know that I can have no Good Thought in me unlesse it be from God Now if I would faine be saved then I know that very Will is Gods Drawing why should I long then expect other drawing if the Lord calleth in me and biddeth me turne to him is not that Drawing but what Man can say he is not SO drawne Even none at all God draweth every one 176. The evill Man will not follow he goeth on in a disputable Way and seeketh Subterfuges or Excuses and saith he is Holy and his Heart is a Theef and Covetous a Murtherour and moreover a Proud Devill he flattereth himself only under Christs Purple Mantle and tickleth himself with Christs Suffering and Death but will not enter thereinto and with Christ dye to Sinne and become an Enemy to it he will only walk upon Roses in sat and Jolly Dayes and devour the sweat of the Miserable in Pride for saith he God draweth me not yes thou wilt not therefore he hardeneth thee and his Anger draweth thee also the Devill whom thou servest 177. Should God draw thee then cast the false or wicked wayes from thee set thy self as if thou wert to meet an Enemy where it concerns Body and Life If the Anger draweth thee and holdeth thee doe but Defend thy self and thou wilt soon get One that will help thee 178. Doth the Anger in the Conscience Say thou art mine thou canst not be saved then say in opposition I take only CHRISTS Death with me and doe with me how thou wilt take that and wrap thy self therein let Gods Anger and all Devills roar over thee and say and complain against thee what they will out of these Swadling Cloathes shall no Election pluck THEE whether it be of God or the Devill or Man 179. But the Wanton Licentious way which men now walk wherein Men only tickle and comfort the Old Evill wicked One the Murtherer the proud stately Covetous Babylonish Antichrist with Christs sufferings and Death he should only be quiet and fatten himself well Christ hath satisfied if he be marked or noted under Christs Bloud Banner and Elected then he cannot be damned this way is totally false or wicked Murtherous and unrighteous 180. If thou wilt be a Christian then thou must be and become conformable to Christs Image and walke in his Footsteps and with him suffer persecution disgrace and scorne love the way of Truth and Righteousnesse doe that which Christ hath taught thee not with hypocrisie to take double or four-fold and give a little piece of it to another No it must be earnest thou shouldst not Esteeme any thing thou hast as if it were thy own only but consider that thou art only a servant therein and servest thy Lord in Heaven therein thou shouldst dispose of it according to HIS pleasure 181. Not to suck up the Miserable and give a little piece thereof to a Beggar and say I minister indeed to the poore First 〈◊〉 them their Sweat else thou wilt be accursed in all thy Service of God and be kept back from God 182. Serve him with Minde and Heart walke in the Light let the scorne of the World be the Prints of Christs wounds to thee labour watch and pray and stand alwayes in care and circumspection against the Devil Arme and fortifie thy selfe continually against him and consider thou art here a Pilgrim and in the Vineyard of Christ labour faithfully in the Kingdome of God all thy Labour followeth after thee for Christ said My Father worketh and I work also so must thou also as a Branch on the Vine work and beare fruit 183. For a Christian is a Branch on the Tree of JESUS CHRIST if it will not work and beare fruit then it shall be cut off that it hinder not other Branches that is it must quite wither and he hardened as to the Life of Christ these will God harden Here it is said I harden whom I will viz a Branch that will not bring forth fruit to such a one God will not give the Sap of Christ It is not said God will not be mine but thou wilt not be his and so you are parted 184. Doest thou say God can make of me what he will he is Omnipotent he maketh of thee what thou wilt his Love is Omnipotent and also his Anger THAT which getteth thee holdeth thee The wicked is to God a good savour to Death and the Saint or holy is so to the Eternall Holy Life as thou growest so thou art such Sap as thou drawest into thy selfe such Fruit thou bearest 185. Why doest thou blame God God so farre as he is called God CANNOT will Evill for he is Good there is no Evill Will in Him but according to his Anger he desireth Wood or Fewel in his Fire which is conformable to or fit for the Fire 186. Therefore rightly saith the Apostle To whom you give your selves for servants in Obedience his servants you are whether of Gods Love or Anger Here the Apostle speaketh of Mans Election that Man CAN give up himselfe and be given up and though indeed of himselfe he cannot take or receive yet God giveth him the taking or receiving for he hath promised it him The abominable Doctrine of Balthasar Tylcken Admonition not to doubt of Election Admonition and Warning to Balthasar Tylcken 187. THe Doctrine of My Opponent is throughout no other then this If God make a Good Tree then it is so that is if he make one a Christian then he is so as if Man need doe nothing in it he need not work and labour for it that he may become a Good Tree 188. Alas God 〈◊〉 us why hath God given us the LAW and Teaching and said thou shalt not doe this or that If he will have Evill How very shamefully goeth this Man astray how very carelesse and negligent doth he cause Men to be Deare Brother Minde and
beginning but there is an Eternall beginning where the beginning and the End is all ONE the First is continually the Last and the Last is the First whatsoever God hath begun from Eternity to foresee that he beginneth now also at this Day alwayes every Moment to foresee 205. I CAN say with good Ground thus that if I were in my Mothers body or womb comprehended in his Anger then God had from Eternity seene me and apprehended me in his Anger and I were from Eternity Elected in his Anger 206. But if I convert in Repentance so that Gods Love apprehend me then I am also from Eternity foreseene out of the Anger into the Love for in God ALL is Eternall whatsoever at this day beginneth to alter in the Eternall that is from Eternity to Eternity equally in the Eternity 207. The Spirit in the Scripture hath another kinde of speaking than the World hath Know you not how it stands written in the Scripture where the Lord saith Suddenly I speak against a Nation or people which are Evill that I will destroy it but if they convert then it repenteth me of the Evill which I thought to doe unto them 108. Look upon Nineveh there you shall see whether God doth not alter his Will for Mans sake and the Apostle saith that even the Spirit of God is subject to Man viz to Holy Men. 209. His Election and beginning is alwayes every moment his Eternall Birth or Geniture is also every moment in him and before him is all both New and Old for the same God who hath Elected us in Christ before the foundation of the World he also every moment Electeth his Children that come to him the Matter consists only in the Conversion of the Will 210. And though it standeth written that it lyeth not in Mans willing that is only concerning those that Desire God and yet will not goe forth out of their sinfull Will they keep their sinne and yet will be saved therefore it lyeth not in HIS Willing but in this that Man goe out from sinne into Gods Grace and then it lyeth in the Mercy and that God doth readily for he hath promised it 211. It lyeth not in Man to make himselfe blessed or saved but in the Grace which God in his Sonne hath promised and bestowed for God willeth that All Men should be helped or saved as the Scripture saith his Election and out going is from Eternity and his Mercy is also from Eternity in Eternity ALL is in him ETERNALL 212. Therefore Men should better consider the Scripture as to such Termes or Expressions for it often speaketh out of the Eternall Mouth which beginneth every Moment 213. For when the Scripture faith He hardeneth their Hearts that they beleeve not and so come not to be saved then it speaketh of those who would be saved by their own ability in their Evill Will and Life those he suffereth to goe on in their purpose or predestination for they will doe it 214. As also Adam did he would not be resigned into God as a Childe but be his own and apprehend and know Good and Evill and Live in all the Three Principles for he went out from Gods will into his own of set purpose therefore God left him and then he fell downe and slept 215. And when he did eate of the forbidden fruit then Gods Anger Elected him to the Damnation of Death and Gods Love spake against it saying The Seed of the Woman shall Bruise or Crush the Serpents head and that was also an Eternall Election and yet it was also a beginning Temporary Election for how can an Election passe upon a thing when as yet it hath no Roote 216. Gods Anger hath from Eternity continually and still at this very day Elected IT SELFE to be a Darknesse that Gods Love and Light might in the Anger become Manifested or revealed 217. Now that which is out of the Eternall as the Soul of Man that hath also Free-will to manifest it selfe in the Light or in the Darknesse NOT that it hath the Light and Darknesse in ITS power but it hath ability to work in Good or Evill that is in the power of the Light or of the Darknesse and in which soever it worketh that manifesteth it selfe in it 218. The Might or power is Gods and the Soule is his Childe a Branch in the Tree proceeded out of Gods Mouth out of Love and Anger all THAT lyeth in it and is its own propriety 219. Who will then take away the Free-Will from it being it is a Branch in the Eternall Tree and hath Love and Anger in it selfe Or is it not true My Opponent speaketh Even so that the Anger lay hidden in Adam before the Fall and hath manifested it selfe with the Fall 220. But he maketh me Wonderfull beginnings in the Seed of Adam One with God another with the Serpent and that is a grosse Errour there are not TWO sorts of Seeds but ONE only but two sorts of Dominions lye in the Seed viz Gods Love and Anger and is but one only Seed 221. But as to one part from the Divine Substantiality from the Holy and pure Element in which the Paradise and Heaven ●●eth as also the Tincture of Fire and Light that very Seed disappeared in Adam when he fell whereof God said The day that thou eatest of this Tree thou shall dye 222. And the other Seed understand Spirit is the Center of the Eternall Nature viz of the Dark World according to which God calleth himselfe an Angry God but that was not stirring and manifest while the Light shone in the divine heavenly Paradisicall Substantiality but in the Fall it became manifested or revealed 223. But now Adam was also shut up in the Dominion and in the Spirit of the Outward World but that must in his Innocency goe also behinde and come after for Gods Kingdome ruled in him but when he fell then it became also manifested and powerfull in him and instantly heate and Cold fell upon him so that he must cloath himselfe and he fell by the Outward Worlds Might into the Corruptibility of his Body 224. Now what kinde of Seed should become generated in Adam out of which Cain and Abel could be conceived even such a one as Adam was after the Fall viz according to the Outword World Evill and Good and according to the Anger-World totally Evill 225. But now the Kingdome of God viz the Heavenly Substantiality was faded or disappeared in him for the Darknesse had received in the Light in him as you have an Image thereof in the dry withered Staffe of Aaron which Sprouted againe So also did the faded or disappeared Substantiality in the Spirit of Christ when God became Man in that very faded Substantiality 226. Now my Opponent with your Election come hither to Schoole now shew me the Grace-Election I will also shew it you in the Divine knowledge to