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exhortation and comfort as hath been said 1 Cor. 14 1 2 3. Secondly I answer That the same Spirit worketh also now in them that beleeve and is as full of power and as willing also to edifie the Church for it is not changeable And what know we but some now adays are full of matter the spirit within them constraining them to speak Job 32 18 to 22. So it was with Elihu who had not another but even the self-same spirit who divideth to every man severally as he will And so it was with David and Paul and Jeremiah and others as a fire within them But it is to be feared as least if not a thing obvious and manifest that there is some even now adays as in the days of old that shut the doors of the Kingdom of God and neither enter in themselves nor suffer them that would as Christ himself told them Yea Light is wanting and Vision faileth them and they walk in darkness and yet despise the help of any new lights though many old lights that are publique and clear and manifest unto others and that of old likewise would be new lights unto them if they could discover them 1 Joh. 2. 10 11. But they are in darkness and walk in darkness and know not whither they go nor what they speak nor whereof they affirm But even speak evil of the things they know not 2 Pet. 2. 12. And yet for all that would be accounted and expect to be followed and obeyed of all as if they were omniscient like God himself and could not possibly err Vers 10. But all have not the knowledg of God this may be spoken to all our shame Else they would know that he that thinketh he knoweth any thing knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know Object But there is ordinarily Scriptural examples alledged against this which hath been said concerning preaching of unlearned men that are not learned in the Tongues nor graduates in the Schools to deter men from presumption in such respects to wit the examples of Vzza and Vzziah and of Korah and his company But they are mis-applyed for the most part as I shall make it manifest from sacred Scripture 1. For first Whereas they are applyed against all unlearned men that take upon them the Priests office they apply them also against Peter and John as Acts 4. 13. 8 1 4. 2. And secondly It is manifest in Scripture That in some sence all the Elect are truly and properly called Priests and both do and ought to offer sacrifice and to take upon them so far forth even a Priest-like office Reas For the Apostle Peter writing to the strangers scattered through Pontus Galatia Cappadocia Asia and Bithynia that were Elect c. 1 Pet. 1. 1 2. calleth them a chosen generation a royal Priesthood c. Chap. 2. 9. And a holy Priesthood vers 5. And that also to offer up spiritual sacrifice acceptable to God by Jesus Christ And that they might shew forth the praises of him who hath called them out of darkness into his marvellous light And Rev. 1. 6. It is said of Christ That he hath made us Kings and Priests unto God and his Father I hope therefore that none will deny but all the Elect may offer these sacrifices to wit these spiritual sacrifices of prayers praises and virtuous living to shew forth the virtues and praises of him that hath called us c. And that also without danger of being struck with leprosie or death or being swallowed up of the earth like Korah and his Company or being destroyed with fire or any such judgment if they do it in sincerity and offer not strange fire like Nadab and Abihu And if they charge not others with taking too much upon them that are called of God and precious c. like Korab and his company Object But it will be objected But what is there no difference then but all that are elect may take upon them to preach I answer Yes There is diversities of gifts and diversities of operations c. And there is degrees and measures given out of the same Spirit It is onely true of the Lord Jesus Christ That to him was not given the Spirit by measure And as all members of the body are not fit for neither have the same office so it is also in the body spiritual That one and the self-same Spirit giveth out to every one severally and variously as it pleaseth him There is and ought to be feet and hands as well as eyes and mouth which are most properly placed in the head And though it be true That if any man have not the Spirit of Christ the same is none of his Yet it therefore follows not That all that are his have the manifestations of the Spirit It is one thing to have the Spirit and another thing to have the manifestations of the Spirit But where ever the manifestation of the Spirit is given to any man it is given saith the Apostle to prosit withal in their several places and degrees according to the measure or nature or property of their gifts and calling and qualifications For To one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom to another the word of knowledg by the same Spirit And to another faith by the same Spirit to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit To another the working of miracles to another prophecy to another discerning of spirits to another divers kindes of tongues to another the interpretation of tongues As 1 Cor. 12. 8 9 10 11 12 c. I shall therefore compare such who in any of these particulars mentioned by the Apostle have the manifestation of the Spirit to the sons of Aaron to whom belonged the Priesthood in a peculiar manner above the rest of the sons of Levi for such who have in any of these particulars the manifestations of the Spirit they have as it were a visible unction from the holy One 1 joh 2. 20 27 According as Aaron was anointed and his sons also with him and sprinkled with holy oyl Levit. 8. 30 31. And so were consecrated and appointed to their charge at the Lords appointment as Vers 33 34 c. And as Aaron was above his sons and wore the brest-plate and other ornaments that were peculiar unto him as Vers 7 8 9. and to him onely as the chief Priest so the Ministers of the Word are chief and ought to be so accounted and esteemed in the Church and all other officers as Elders and Deacons who are resembleable to the sons of Aaron if such as they ought ought to be chosen and consecrated likewise as well as the Ministers And they should be known approved as men full of the holy Ghost and wisdom and of honest report likewise or else they are not suitable to be joyned with the Ministers nor consecrated by them unto any office in the Church of God as appeares Act. 6. 3. But all that are such
the rest and to offer for themselves though not for others as the rest of the Priests as Numb 18. 1 2 3 4 5 Chap. 16. 45. So that whatsoever concerned but themselves onely they might come neer and approach to do it whereas no stranger might intermeddle though they might do no service that concerned the Tabernacle till they came to years But of this more fully in another place 2. And secondly As they are stricter with whom they do incorporate and joyn themselves for these respects Even so for the same ends and respects they are very strict and conscientious and ought so to be that all that are found and known to be men of approved fidelity should thus incorporate and joyn themselves I say their principles are that all ought so to do that live not too remote but within convenient bounds and in convenient numbers for frequent assembling of themselves together and to engage themselves in Covenant unto God in these respects and unto all brotherly and Christian duties for better security and deeper engagement both to God and men not to deal unfaithfully in all such business as concerns them all but without partiality or respect of persons as before God and the Lord Jesus Christ and the Elect Angels And all the account will be little enough in things that concern the good of their souls and the souls of posterities that may yet succeed to the end of the world for whom they ought to provide and be careful for that the Gospel of peace and of glad tydings and all the Ordinances might be preached and administred when they are gone in power and purity as well as to themselves And to beware of dogs and evil workers and wolves c. and as much as possible to keep them out least ungodly men being crept in should turn the grace of God into wantonness c. And this Gospel of peace being a pearl so invaluable as it were easie to shew in every respect can never be guarded with too great security or deep engagement nor too strictly kept from being soyled or defiled with the hands of men And though it be true that the men of this world are wiser in their generations and for conservation of their own liberties priviledges pearls and estates and to confirm and secure them even to their posterities after them if possible for ever then the Children of light as Luk. 16. 8. Mat. 7. 24 25. And may justly also rise up in judgment and condemn our folly and carelessness herein Yet no man will say but that the children of light ought to be as wise in their generations and in their precious things and in the things of God and that concern their souls for so we ought even to be wise as servants though innocent as Doves And therefore to incorporate such as stand approved and are men of fidelity within convenient bounds is doubtless the duty of all and every such in times of liberty for publique administration of the Ordinances of God and for Government and Discipline And in times of persecution at the least privately they ought so to do without being restrained by the civil State and limited and kept within parochial bonds against their Christian liberties and duties also both to God and men 3. And thirdly The principles of Independents are stricter and neerer to the Scripture rules for edifying of the Church They do not limit the holy one of Israel to speak in publike by the learned onely For first as the Apostle saith The manisestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal 1 Cor. 11. 7. Assertion From whence it naturally and manifestly flows That to whomsoever the manifestation of the Spirit is given it is given to such to profit withal It is objected That the manifestation of the Spirit are not so evident and perspicuous in these days as in the primitive times and the witnessing thereunto by miracles is ceased and therefore we may easily be deceived especially such who are unlearned and unstable are easily deceived Ans 1. I answer first Whether any now adays hath the manifestations of the Spirit yea or no yet this assertion is true for it doth not assert either Ans 2. Secondly I answer That if the manifestations of the Spirit be not evident and demonstrable in these days how can even the learned Ministers preach as they ought and as the Apostles did in the clear evidence and demonstration of the Spirit and of power That so mens faith might not need to stand in the wisdom of men but in the power of God 1 Cor. 2. 4. 5. Ans 3. Thirdly Though for want of the witnessing thereunto by miracles those who are carnal and do not beleeve cannot discern the manifestations of the Spirit and the power of God whereby men speak as Vers 8 14. Yet for all that they may speak wisdom among them that are perfect yea even the wisdom of God in a mystery even the hidden wisdom which God hath ordained before the world unto their glory and those secret mysteries which eye hath not seen neither ear heard c. which God hath prepared for them that love him he doth reveal unto such by his Spirit Vers 6 7 8 to 16. Consequence Such therefore though they be unlearned in the Tongues I mean who having received the Spirit of God are thereby spiritualiz'd may discern all things as Vers 10 15. yea even the deep things of God Therefore it follows That the manifestations of the Spirit may be evident and demonstrable even now in these days to such who are spiritualiz'd through faith in God though not to the carnal or worldly c. who do account these spiritual things foolishness as Vers 14. and wanting an eye of Faith cannot discern them because they are invisible For as the light of the body is the eye Matth. 6. 22 23. so the light of the Soul whereby and where-through it understandeth or discerneth spiritual and invisible things is the eye of Faith For as God himself being invisible is only seen or comprehended and known through Fatih so are also the things of God undiscernable without Faith Heb. 11. Quest 1. But in what particular gifts or qualifications or administrations or operations are the manifestations of the Spirit of God and of power evident and demonstrable in any that are not learned in the tongues now in these days Answ I answer that many of those yea and the chief of all those that are reckoned up by the Apostle and are by him asserted as manifestations of the Spirit 1 Cor. 12. 8 9 10. and Chap. 13. 3. are doubtless evident and demonstrable in some unlearned in the tongues even in these days As 1. The word of Wisdom 2. The word of Knowledg 3. Faith 4. Prophesying to wit in speaking unto men to edification and exhortation and comfort which is the chief of all 5. Discerning of Spirits 6. Interpretation of Scriptures that are dark and mysterious and
them that beleeve Vers 22. And therefore is of greater and more profitable use for the edifying of the Church But wherefore or wherein is it more useful The Apostle answers and brings it in as a reason to wit For he that prophecyeth speaketh unto men to edification exhortation and comfort Consequ And therefore it follows That speaking unto men to edification and exhortation and comfort is of all other gifts the most useful and most to be desired and sought after and to be most esteemed and accounted of by the Church of God And so are all such who have that gift and do not hide it in a napkin but use it accordingly for the same end for which it is given whiles they keep unto sound doctrine that cannot be reproved and speak but according to the Law and Testimony and seek but onely and chiefly hi glory that sent them and that they might excel to the edifying of the Church and to convince the world of sin of righteousness and of judgment And if they contend earnestly if it be but for the faith that was once delivered to the Saints or do but stand and fast to the Christian Liberty where with Christ hath made us free and that they might not be entangled with yokes of bondage not be as men pleasers or servants of men after they are bought with a price provided they preach nor seek any liberty at all to do any evil either in word or deed nor to be contentious and disobedient to the Truth of God I say of such they are sent of God And whosoever resuseth resisteth disparageth disgraceth or despiseth such doth even the same to him that sent them And such of all others ought to be hon●red even with double honor that both rule well and also labor in the word and doctrine by speaking unto men to edification and exhortation and comfort as hath been said And therefore all that are in authority ought to give liberty to all them whose spirit God hath raised to build up the Churches in their most holy Faith lest wrath be upon them from the Lord as Ezra 1. 5 6. and Chap. 7. 13 16 13. and Chap. 8. 22 23. and Psa 2. It is therefore a matter of dangerous consequence either to act or so much as seem to act or comply with such who doc exclude all from any spiritual ministration in the name of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ yea even in publique I mean that are not learned in the Tongues for they exclude it may be such as Peter and John and all the Church which was at Jerusalem who were all scattered abroad and went every where preathing the word See Acts 8. 1 4. Psa 2. throughout And the Apostle speaking to the Hebrews tells them That when for the time they ought to have been Teachers yet they had need to learn c. Heb. 5. 12. 1 Reas For what is it else but to limit the Holy one of Israel that he shall not speak but by the learned onely either in private or publique Who hath told us plainly That he hideth things from the wise and learned that he revealeth unto babes Luk. 10. 2. Reas And what is it else but clearly to oppose the Apostles rules given out for direction in such cases to wit 1. As every man hath received the gift so let him administer the same as good disposers of the manifold grace of God And 2. Let every man administer according to the measure or proportion of his Faith 3. And how dangerous is it to advise much less to compel any man to hide his talent in a napkin and not to suffer him to occupy with it for his masters advantage least it be taken from him yea though it be that man that hath but one poor Talent who doubtless ought to put it forth in his place and calling as well as those that have five or more see Heb. 10 22 to 26 c. Heb. 5. 12 to 15. c. 4. And how shall those things be made known to the Church that are on purpose hid from the wise and learned and onely revealed unto babes c. if we cannot be content to learn them at babes as good old Eli both did and was glad to do at the child Samuel And hath not God on purpose done it And chosen the base and foolish things of this world to confound the wise and the mighty c. as 1 Cor. 1. 2 27 28. 29. and Chap. 2. 11 12 13 14 on purpose I say Yea that no flesh should rejoyce in his presence but that he that glorieth might glory in the Lord. Was not the word of the Lord revealed unto the Childe Samuel rather then to good old Eli And did not Eldad and Midad prophesie in the Camp as well as the rest and as lawfully too the Spirit of the Lord coming upon them did Moses forbid them till he had blessed them or till their callings of God should be evidenced by miracles as Moses was and as some do expect or they will not heare an unlearned man see John 11. 9 10 11. John did no miracle though all men held John as a Prophet Or shall we charge them with immodestie for offering to preach without Ordination Was no Prophet accounted a Prophet but that wrought miracles or was ordained by men and learned in the tongues Look Joh. 10. 41. Was not Amos an Herdman and a gatherer of Sacamore fruit when the Lord took him and sent him to prophesie And do not his words good to them that walk uprightly by whomsoever he sendeth them Is it not lawful for the Lord Jesus Christ to thrust forth labourers into his harvest without Licence from the learned in the tongues Or doe not they that refuse whomsoever he sendeth refuse him Or is it lawful to forbid any whom he sendeth to preach unto men that they might be saved Like the wicked Jewes the salvation of souls being their chief end as the drift of their doctrine will easily shew Is it not lawfull for them that know the terror of the Lord to perswade men And should not every man administer according to the measure of his faith and be as good Stewards of the manifold grace of God as hath been said without licence from the learned in the tongues And must they but only be suffered to administer according to the measure and degrees of their learnedness and knowledge in the tongues meerely Have none the manifestation of the spirit but the learned in the tongues Or dare we cross the Apostle and say that the Manifestation of the Spirit is not given to every man to profit withal Or that the chief grace and gift of the Spirit and that which is most profitable and usefull to the Church for Edification and therefore most chiefly to be desired is not that men might prophesie Or what is this prophesying that is so much to be desired above all other gifts yea above the gift of tongues
wit All the Elect that are built upon Christ by a lively Faith are lively stones built up a spiritual house yea an holy Priesthood to offer up spiritual sacrifice acceptable to God by Jesus Christ 1 Pet. 2. 5. and Chap. 1. 2. So that all Beleevers are accounted as Priests even from their first ingrafting into Christ by faith in some respects as is before specified But as there was Priests of divers orders so also ought the true Beleevers to be distinguished I compare therefore the newly converted to the Levites in their minority till they came to years and all the grown Christians that are approved and experienced in the trade and practise of Christianity to the Levites when they came to years of discretion And all the Elders and Officers elected by the Church or that are full of the holy Ghost and of wisdom I compare to the Priests the sons of Aaron yea though they be of such as are not learned in Tongues if they have such gifts and qualifications as are manifestations of the Spirit of God And so the Ministers of God I compare to Aaron who in many things was above his sons as hath been said And who knoweth but the Lord Jesus Christ upon whose shoulder the Government lieth will govern his Church after these examples seeing the Apostle Peter doth thus compare them as resembling the Priesthood and not as resembling the Jewish Nation both Priests and People for that he doth not see also Mal. 4. 4. And then the danger lieth not against men unlearned that have the manifestation of the Spirit and of power least they should perish in the gainsaying of Korah because they take upon them being called by the Church to preach and administer in the name of God But the danger lies against such who are sensual having not the spirit and yet will take upon them ministerial functions in the name of God because they are learned in the Tongues and Graduates in the Schools Jude 11 18 19 20. See Zech. 12 13. Chap. These are strangers that may not come nigh c. as Numb 18. 4 22. But it will be objected That if unlearned men be suffered to preach they that are unlearned and unstable may wrest the Scriptures to their own destruction as 2 Pet. 3. 16 17. and may lead others into errors and schisms and cannot be hindered nor supprest neither can it otherwise be avoyded but men that know not the originall should ordinarily mis-understand dark places of Scripture and so like blinde guides lead men into the ditch Answ I answer that it is true That men that are both unle arned and unstable do and will wrest some places of Scripture and it cannot be avoyded but there will be false Teachers even amongst us in these days as well as there was false Prophets in the days of old as 2 Pet. 2. 1. And such also it may be as shall privily bring in damnable Heresies even denying the Lord that bought them and shall bring upon themselves swift destruction And there is no security given out in Scripture That none that is learned in the Tongues should be of the number of these false teachers for men that are learned in the Tongues may be unstable and wrest the Scriptures and by how much the more they that are unstable are learned in the Tongues they are even so much the more dangerous if they should be suffered And therefore unstableness is a greater fault and more dangerous then unlearnedness in the Tongues And men may he learned in the Scriptures or unlearned either and yet learned in the Tongues Men ought not therefore to be inhibited to preach lest they should be unstable and wrest the Scriptures for then the learned as well as the unlearned should both be inhibited But such who being proved are found unstable and that they do wrest the Scriptures no man will deny but such may and ought to be inhibited when they are found out and convicted of error or of schism c. yea though they be of the learned But to inhibit men before were to censure and condemn men before they be heard And see Ezek 18. 20. The righteousness of the righteous ought to be upon him as a badg of honor but the wickedness of the wicked should but be upon himself But the best and surest way to prevent the sowing and spreading of Errors or Schisms is to give liberty that any whomsoever that preacheth in publique may in publique also be reprehended be they learned or unlearned if they preach erroneously in any Congregation that so the same Auditory that hears them preach any Error or Schism or false Doctrine may by just reprehension from clear Scripture-evidence be satisfied to the contrary and have such evil seed purged out quickly before it grow up or be spread any further for so it ought to be And those Churches are not rightly constituted where this liberty is either wanting or not in use when the Truth of God is wronged and wrested and turned into a lye and when his sacred Word is handled deceitfully and mis-applyed as it often is even by the learned in the Tongues that are unstable c. And yet no man allowed to reprehend them for it nor convince them of it at least not in publique And how then shall the same Auditory be purged from it if their reprehension be not as publique as the doctrine is preached For who knows that all the Congregation shall every one of them be assembled again and the doctrine may be such as may lead them to perdition and destruction both of their souls and bodies And this liberty being in use will doubtless make both the learned and unlearned a great deal more careful to keep unto sound doctrine that cannot be reproved And they that plead so much against liberty of preaching of men unlearned in the Tongues for fear of the spreading of errors and schisms and yet will not allow this publique liberty of reprehension as hath been said to prevent and avoyd and purge the same I can hardly beleeve that the spreading of Errors and Schisms is the chief cause that makes them zealous therein but some other by or self-respects which they will not own For no man that is zealous against such spreading gangrenes but he will allow and justifie and approve all possibe means to avoyd or stay them else he is not cordial in that respect And what means possibly can be more awful and more suitable and even necessary then publique reprehension of publique Errors The Apostle Paul reprehended Peter before them all Gal. 2. 14. And them that sin saith the Apostle rebuke before all that others also may fear 1 Tim. 5. 20. But it will be objected That it were an immodest part for any man to implead his Minister in the publique Congregation and might disgrace and disparage and dishonor him for ever Ans I answer That it is far greater immodesty in such Ministers to need to it
to the policy and government of the Church no Church can be too strict Pag. 20. Though in other respects they ought to joyn according to the rule of Charity and not of Certainty as in administration of the Word and Sacraments as 1 Cor. 16. 14. Chap. 13. Chap. 10. 32 33. 2. It is asserted That for the same ends and reasons and respects alledged in the former they are justly strict and conscientious and teach it as a duty That all that are found and known to be men of approved fidelity within convenient bounds should thus incorporate and joyn themselves and to engage themselves in Covenant unto God for better security and deeper engagement unto all brotherly and Christian duties and to deal impartially in all such business as concerns them all for the glory of God and the Churches good and to be wise as serpents though innocent as doves P. 21 22. 3. It is asserted and proved at large That the Principles of Independents are stricter and neerer to the Scripture rules for edifying of the Church in that they do not limit the holy one of Israel to speak in publique by the learned onely P. 22 to 47 For proving Whereof 1. It is asserted from 1 Cor. 12. 7 to 12. That naturally and manifestly flows from hence That to whomsoever the manifestation of the Spirit is given it is given to such to profit withall Pag. 23. 2. It is proved against an objection to the contrary That such who have the Spirit of God and are spiritualiz'd thereby may discern all things yea the deep things of God as 1 Cor. 2. 10. 15. yea though they be unlearned in the tongues And that the manifestations of the Spirit may be evident and demonstrable even in these our days to such who are spiritual though not unto others as vers 6 7 8 9 10. Pag. 23. 24. 3. The particular gifts or notes or qualifications or operations or administrations are the chief of them produced from sacred Scripture whereby the manifestation of the Spirit of God and of power c. may be evident and demonstrable in such as are not of those that are learned in the Tongues nor graduates in the Schools even in these our days yea and that in such who do no miracles Pag. 24. 4. It is asserted and proved against an Objection That these particular gifts and administrations which are reckoned up by the Apostle Paul cannot be so counterfeited by the carnal but they may easily be discerned by those that are spiritual P. 24 25. And to that purpose there is divers Notes from sacred Scripture which being found in any do prove for certain and do evidently demonstrate that it is indeed even the Spirit of God that speaketh in them yea though they do no miracles Pag. 25. 1. The first from John 7. 18. Ibid. 2. From John 10. 10. 28. Pag. 26. 3. From James 1. 17 18. Ibid. 4. From John 16. 8. Ibid. 5. From 1 Cor. 4. 5. Chap. 14. 24 25. Ibid. 6. From John 3. 21. Ibid. 7. From Phil. 2. 15 16. Ephes 5. 13 14. Ibid. But that the chiefest of all these particulars or any that can be exhibited is a clear understanding and knowledg of God and of the sacred Scriptures and the secrets thereof and of the secrets and mysteries of his sacred Kingdom Because without all controversie great is the mysterie of godliness as the Apostle saith Col. 1. 26. 27 28. Rom. 16. 25. Ephes 3. 9. 2 Tim. 1. 10. Titus 1. 2. pag. 27. To which a Reason is rendred drawn from the contrary Luke 8. 10. Mark 4. 33 34. Mat. 13. Ibid. And a Consequence gathered backed with 1 Cor. 4. 5. Matth. 10. 19. Ibid. And an Objection answered to satisfie such who count it immodesty pag. 28. 1. And another to satisfie such who object That speaking unto men to Edification and Exhortation and Comfort is not properly to prophecy because prophecying is foreshewing of things to come which is fully answered and clearly vindicated that it is properly prophecying as the Apostle asserteth it from Heb. 11. 1. John 10. 10. 1 John 5. 11 12 13. 1 Cor. 14. 1 3 4. And the chief of all for the perfecting of the Saints and for the work of the Ministry and for the edification of the body of Christ Ephes 4. 11 12 13 14 15 16. pag. 29. 2. And secondly That it is a more present evidence and demonstration of the Spirit then shewing of things to come as Agabus did for till the things be come they do not manifest the Spirit of God pag. 29 30. 3. And thirdly The danger is shewed to those that despise or resist and disparage these things or ways c. or them that use them or to any authority that will not suffer it and give liberty to all them whose spirit God hath raised to build up the Churches in their most holy faith lest wrath be upon them from the Lord as Ezra 1. 5 6. Chap. 13. 16 23. Chap. 8. 22 23. Psal 2. pag. 31. 32 33. Yea that it is matter of dangerous consequence either to act or comply with such shew'd by many Reasons and all Objections answered fully which are too many and too large to abreviate pag. 47. 4 Assertion is concerning their Independency in respect of other Churches whiles they do well as Rom. 13. 3 4. 1 Pet. 3. to the 23. Chap. 4. 1 2. 12. with the Reasons that necessarily engage them so to stand which are unanswerable pag. 47. to 53. 5 Assertion is concerning their maintaining the Power and Kingdom and Supremacy of Christ in which it is shewed that they necessarily assume Democracy to maintain his Monarchy against Antichristian tyranny and usurpation pag. 53. to 56. 6 Assertion is That they are justly stricter in keeping themselves within their own sphere in not judging those that are without in the Apostles sense 1 Cor. 5. 12. in a spiritual way as Mat. 18. 15. to 21. pag. 56. 57 58. Having done with the Presbyterians for the time present here is three grand particulars instanced in against the Independents and punctually argued from Scripture grounds 1. First Concerning Ordination of Ministers and other Officers pag. 58. to 63. 2. Secondly Concerning the authoritative acting of an Assembly of Churches in the Name of God and the Lord Jesus Christ wherein is proved that withdrawing of Communion is not sufficient but they ought to proceed even to Excommunication yea even to Execration if their sin so deserve as for toleration of Idolatry Blasphemy and such haynous sins in their Church-Members or Officers pag. 63. to 68. 3. Thirdly Concerning their strictness in tryal of all whom they admit to partake of the Sacraments which is named pag. 68. but prosecuted and argued against them from pag. 72. to the end of the Book But betwixt pag. 68. and pag. 72. the Authors apprehensions partly abreviating what hath formerly been said are proposed briefly
Is it not speaking unto men to Edification and Exhortation and comfort 1 Cor. 14. 1 3. Is is not preferred before the gift of tongues How much more then is it to be prefer'd before Learnedness in the tongues which is onely taught by humane Document and is not given as a manifestation of the Spirit but is that which a carnal man that knoweth nothing neither can know any thing concerning spiritual things may attain unto 1 Cor. 2. 14. Therefore learnedness in the tongues being no manifestation of the Spirit at all is therefore no signe that men are called of God and sent to preach But he that hath prophesie let him prophesie according to the proportion of faith But who is this He that hath prophesie in the Apostles sence in this place But he that speaketh unto men to Edification and Exhortation and Comfort And yet further by way of Directory he giveth forth a most exact Rule to wit Quest But how and what order must be used Answ Let the Prophets speak two or three and let the rest judge And if any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by let the first hold his peace Quest But why so Answ For ye may all speake one by one that all may learn and all may be comforted vers 29 30 31. Quest But where and when and in what company must this be that the Prophets may all speak one by one Answ When the whole Church of the Corinthians was come together as vers 23 24 25 26 27. And therefore also when any whole Church rightly constituted as the Corinthians was are come together they may do the like Quest But were not this immodesty in these dayes when the whole Church is come together in some place and every one hath a Psalme hath Doctrine hath a Tongue hath Revelation hath an Interpretation That all these one by one should be communicated for the good of the whole as vers 26 27 31 32. all that are Prophets I meane for so is the Directory vers 29. 24. Answ Was this the practise of the Churches in the Primitive times by the Apostles direction Might all that were zealous of spiritual gifts seek that they might excell to the Edifying of the Church as vers 12. And must it therefore now be accounted immodesty because it is not the custome in our Churches before these times Yea must it be accounted immodesty to use the same liberty in those Churches which are of purpose so constituted that the gifts of al that are so qualified may be most useful and profitable unto all that all might learne and all might be comforted and all might be edified as vers 30. 31. And might grow in grace from faith to faith and from strength to strength till they come to be tall men and women in Jesus Christ as Psal 84. 7. Yea that holding the Head from which all the body by joynts and bands having nourishment ministred and knit together might the more increase with the increase of God as Coloss 2. 19. and Chap. 3. 12 13. to 18. And why should any member of the mystical body of Jesus Christ be therefore despised as uselesse and unprofitable because unlearned in the tongues Hath not God himself on purpose so provided and tempered the body together and given more honour to that part which lacked that there might be no Schisme in the body but that the members might learn to have the same care one of another Seeing the heat cannot say to the feet I have no need of you as Chap. 12. 13. c. to the end Proposing the usefulnesse and propriety and necessity of every member of our natural bodies to be as patterns unto bodies spiritual that all the members in their several places might be accounted of incouraged honoured comforted edified and esteemed of as they ought to be necessary and useful for the good of the whole shewing that the most feeble members ought not to be despised but as much as in us lieth honored and clothed with more abundant comeliness And every one called forth employed desired and deputed by such who can discern their proper gifts or fitness and abilities for the necessary use and good of the whole or of any other parts or members of the body to such employments as they are fittest for And this calling and deputation would take away all appearance or suspition of immodesty in any such members to what ever employment they are called unto But while it is otherwise and that the very constitution of our Presbyterian Churches require that none be admitted but that is so and so learned and that enters in by the learned's door It were immodesty to observe the Apostles rules in such Presbyterian Churches And it is no marvel if such who do it yea though in other Churches be accounted silly fellows and tubpreachers by the rude people who it may be account them as they did paul and others no better then mad as Vers 23. For they are so accounted and spoken of too and that by our grave Divines so reverendly they esteem of the gifts of God and of the graces of his Spirit which are the more perspicuous by how much more they are unlearned in the Tongues And therefore it is no marvel if it be so unto them all as is spoken in these Scriptures Isa 29. from the 9 to the end Micab 3. 5 6 7 8. Hosea 8. 12. Let them look to it that despise prophecying that resist and Spirit yea that like Jannes and Jambres resist the Truth and that despise but the least of those little ones that beleeve in Christ for they do despise and resist him and his sacred Truth And it is to be feared that many are guilty even of speaking words against the holy Ghost A dangerous sin as it needs must be that shall never be forgiven either in this life or in the life to come as Mat. 12 30 31 32. It is no marvel if such Ministers yea though the chiefest of all on the face of the earth have no manifest Vision as once it was in the days of Eli when they caused the people to despise the offering of the Lord even so I mean they cause the people to despise such service and offerings and sacrifice as God now requires as Rom 12. 1● Rev. 1. 6. 1 Pet. 2. 7 8 9 10. For they that despise these things despise not men but God It is no marvel if they must be content either to learn it at babes or to be without and dye without knowledg as 1 Sam. 3. 1 17 18. Hos 4 5 6. Object But it will be objected That the like ways for edifying of the Church in these days that were practised in the Apostles times are not suitable now because that those extraordinary gifts are ceased Ans 1. I answer That the chief and most profitable of all those gifts for edifying of the Church is still on foot to wit Prophecying speaking unto men to edification and