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A86458 The smoke of the bottomlesse pit. Or, A more true and fuller discovery of the doctrine of those men which call themselves Ranters: or, the Mad Crew. / By John Holland porter, an eye and ear witnesse. Licensed and entred according to order. Holland, John, porter. 1651 (1651) Wing H2428; Thomason E622_5; ESTC R206430 5,792 8

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THE SMOKE OF THE Bottomlesse Pit OR A More true and fuller Discovery of the Doctrine of those men which call themselves RANTERS OR The Mad Crew By John Holland Porter an eye and ear witnesse 2 Tim. 3.1 This know also that in the last daies perilous times shall come 2 Pet. 2.1 But there were false Prophets also amongst the people even as there shall be false teachers amongst you who privily shall bring in damnable heresies even denying the Lord that bought them and bring upon themselves swift destruction Phil. 3.2 Beware of Dogs beware of evill workers beware of the concision Licensed and entred according to Order LONDON Printed for John Wright at the Kings Head in the Old-Baylie 1651. The Doctrine of the RANTERS viz. FIrst concerning God Secondly concerning Christ Thirdly concerning the Spirit Fourthly concerning the Scriptures Fifthly concerning the Creation Sixthly concerning Marriage Seventhly concerning the Commandments of God Eightly concerning Ordinances Ninthly concerning Sin Tenthly concerning Man Eleventh concerning the Devil Twelfth concerning Heaven and Hell Thirteenth concerning Death and Resurrection Fourteenth concerning the last Judgement A word to the Christian READER AT the earnest request of divers of my friends to whom I am much ingaged I was unwillingly willing to publish to the world the more and worse then Atheistical blasphemies of these men not with any intent the Lord knoweth to make their persons odious unto any much lesse to stir up any to persecute them barely for their judgements for when I consider what the Scripture saith I find it is not Gods method to deal with Spiritual enemies with carnal weapons the way that God tooke to over-power those men that were against the re-building of the Temple you may read Zach. 4.6 not by might nor by power but by my spirit saith the Lord and this was Pauls practice for saith he the weapons of our warfare are not carnall but mighty through God for the pulling down of strong holds 2 Cor. 10.4 5. and this Paul gave for a rule to the Saints that if a brother be overtaken in a fault you that are spiritual restore such a one with the spirit of meekness considering thy self lest thou also be tempted Gal. 6.1 Paul doth not say if a man hold an errour imprison or banish him or take away his life again Paul Prophesieth that the greatest enemies that ever Christ had in the world should be destroyed namely by the spirit of Christs mouth and the brightness of his comming 2 Thes 2.8 and this truth was revealed to John in the Revelation who tels us that the weapon that Christ fights with against his enemies is the sword that goeth out of his mouth Rev. 19.15 and we may see what this sword is if we read Eph. 6.17 but I shall say no more on this subject lest I make my porch too big for this house Only I wish that thou and I may imitate our heavenly Father who alwaies hath and still doth bring light out of darkness and good out of evil and not forget the poor Bee who can suck honey out of the most stinking weed so do thou when thou readest this Pamphlet farewel J. HOLLAND The doctrine of the RANTERS First concerning GOD. THey maintain that God is essentially in every creature and that there is as much of God in one creature as in another though he doth not manifest himself so much in one as in another I saw this expression in a Book of theirs that the essence of God was as much in the Ivie leaf as in the most glorious Angel I heard another say that the essence of God was in that board as much as it was in heaven he then laying his hand on a Deal board They all say there is no other God but what is in them and also in the whole Creation and that men ought to pray and seek to no other God but what was in them The titles they give God are these They call him the Being the Fulnesse the Great motion Reason the Immensity I heard a man swear that if there was any God at all he was one I said to him that God knew all things and was able to do whatsoever he pleased but you cannot therefore you are not God but a blasphemer Another made answer he was not The GOD but he was God because God was in him and in every creature in the world I replyed If God were in every creature how then came it to passe there was such a difference amongst the creatures as there are some good and some bad and some Godly men and some wicked and all such good and bad are divided one against another but God is undivided and at unity with himself therefore God essentially is not in every creature Secondly concerning Christ THey say that Christ was only a form or a shadow or a fleshly apparition of God and no more and that what he did in way of suffering was for himself for none had or ever should have any benefit by his suffering but himself That the Ministry of Christ either by himself or by his Apostles as it is held forth in the Scriptures is ceased as well as the Ministry of Aaron others of them say that what Christ did in the flesh is now made over to us in the spirit and that we are no more to eye or mind Christ that died at Jerusalem but we are to mind Christ in our selves others of them say that what Christ did in his own person was onely a figure or a type of what should be done and acted in every man and that every man must do and suffer as much as Christ did this is the best they say of Christ I have heard some say that if Christ were on earth now he would be ashamed of what he did before I heard one of them say it was a question whether Christ was born of a Virgin nay saith another he was a bastard sure enough for the letter saith he meaning the Scripture saith that Mary was betrothed to Joseph before Jesus was conceived in the womb At which words I was much inraged and began to speak intending to reprove them but was interrupted by one of them that sate by who swore abloudy oath and told me I doted on a silly boy which was at Jerusalem and he also swore he knew the Lad very well for said he I was his Godfather one of them met me and said he was told that I had as much wisdome as Christ I answered that none but blasphemers would say so then he answered if I had not so much wisdome he had There was one of them did affirm to Doctor Chamberlaine in my hearing that every man was God as much as Christ for saith he there is as much of the God-head in every man as was in Christ Thirdly concerning the Spirit THey all affirme that there is but one spirit in the world and those names of good spirit and bad spirit are meere imaginations and