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A53049 Observations upon experimental philosophy to which is added The description of a new blazing world / written by the thrice noble, illustrious, and excellent princesse, the Duchess of Newcastle. Newcastle, Margaret Cavendish, Duchess of, 1624?-1674. 1666 (1666) Wing N857; ESTC R32311 312,134 638

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Jews Cabbala Several have endeavoured it answered the Spirits but those that came nearest although themselves denied it were one Dr. Dee and one Edward Kelly the one representing Moses and the other Aaron for Kelly was to Dr. d ee as Aaron to Moses Is there not Divine Reason as well as there is Natural No answered they for there is but a Divine Faith and as for Reason it is onely natural but you Mortals are so puzled about this divine Faith and natural Reason that you do not know well how to distinguish them but confound them both which is the cause you have so many divine Philosophers who make a Gallimafry both of Reason and Faith Then she asked Whether pure natural Philosophers were Cabbalists They answered No but onely your Mystical or Divine Philosophers such as study beyond sense and reason She enquired further Whether there was any Cabbala in god or whether God was full of Ideas They answered There could be nothing in God nor could God be full of any thing either forms or figures but of himself for God is the Perfection of all things and an Unexpressible Being beyond the conception of any Creature either Natural or Supernatural Then I pray inform me said the Emperess Whether the Jews or any other Cabbala consist in numbers The Spirits answered No for numbers are odd and different and would make a disagreement in the Cabbala But said she again Is it a sin then not to know or understand the Cabbala God is so merciful answered they and so just that he will never damn the ignorant and save onely those that pretend to know him and his secret Counsels by their Cabbala's but he loves those that adore and worship him with fear and reverence and with a pure heart She asked further which of these two Cabbala's was most approved the Natural or Theological The Theological answered they is mystical and belongs onely to Faith but the Natural belongs to Reason Then she asked them Whether Divine Faith was made out of Reason No answered they for Faith proceeds onely from a Divine saving Grace which is a peculiar Gift of God How comes it then replied she that Men even those that are of several opinions have Faith more or less A natural belief answered they is not a Divine Faith But proceeded the Emperess How are you sure that God cannot be known The several opinions you Mortals have of God answered they are sufficient witnesses thereof Well then replied the Emperess leaving this inquisitive knowledg of God I pray inform me whether you Spirits give motion to natural bodies No answered they but on the contrary natural material bodies give Spirits motion for we Spirits being incorporeal have no motion but from our corporeal vehicles so that we move by the help of our bodies and not the bodies by the help of us for pure Spirits are immovable If this be so replied the Emperess How comes it then that you can move so suddenly at a vast distance They answered That some sorts of matter were more pure rare and consequently more light and agil then others and this was the reason many in this age do think their Fore-fathers have been Fools by which they prove themselves to be such The Emperess asked further whether there was any Plastick power in Nature Truly said the Spirits Plastick power in a hard word signifies no more then the power of the corporeal figurative motions of Nature After this the Emperess desired the Spirits to inform her where the Paradise was whether it was in the midst of the World as a Centre of pleasure or whether it was the whole world or a peculiar world by it self as a world of life and not of matter or whether it was mixt as a world of living animal Creatures They answered That Paradise was not in the world she came from but in that world she lived in at present and that it was the very same place where she kept her Court and where her Palace stood in the midst of the Imperial City The Emperess asked further whether in the beginning and Creation of the World all Beasts could speak They answered That no Beasts could speak but onely those sorts of Creatures which were Fish-men Bear-men Worm-men and the like which could speak in the first Age as well as they do now She asked again whether they were none of those Spirits that frighted Adam out of the Paradise at least caused him not to return thither again They answered they were not Then she desired to be informed whither Adam fled when he was driven out of the Paradise Out of this World said they you are now Emperess of into the world you came from If this be so replied the Emperess then surely those Cabbalists are much out of their story who believe the Paradise to be a world of Life onely without Matter for this world though it be most pleasant and fruitful yet it is not a world of meer immaterial life but a world of living material Creatures Without question they are answered the Spirits for not all Cabbalas are true Then the Emperess asked That since it is mentioned in the story of the Creation of the World that Eve was tempted by the Serpent whether the Devil was within the Serpent or whether the Serpent tempted her without the Devil They answered That the Devil was within the Serpent But how came it then replied she that the Serpent was cursed They answered because the Devil was in him for are not those men in danger of damnation which have the Devil within them who perswades them to believe and act wickedly The Emperess asked further whether Light and the Heavens were all one They answered That that Region which contains the Lucid natural Orbs was by mortals named Heaven but the beatifical Heaven which is the Habitation of the blessed Angels and Souls was so far beyond it that it could not be compared to any natural Creature Then the Emperess asked them whether all Matter was fluid at first They answered That Matter was always as it is and that some parts of Matter were rare some dense some fluid some solid c. Neither was God bound to make all matter fluid at first She asked further whether Matter was immovable init self We have answered you before said they That there is no motion but in Matter and were it not for the motion of Matter we Spirits could not move nor give you any answer to your several questions After this the Emperess asked the Spirits whether the Universe was made within the space of six days or whether by those six days were ment so many Decrees or Commands of God They answered her that the World was made by the All-powerful Decree and Command of God but whether there were six Decrees or Commands or fewer or more no creature was able to tell Then she inquired whether there was no mystery in numbers No other mystery answered the Spirits but reckoning or