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A47748 Liturgy's vindicated by the dissenters, or, The lawfulness of forms of prayer and liturgies proved from the very texts of Scripture urged against them by John Bunyan and the dissenters / by the author of the Religious conference between a minister and his parishioner about infant baptism. Leslie, Charles, 1650-1722. 1700 (1700) Wing L1137; ESTC R34970 43,840 127

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Superiours in Church and State The Spirits of the Prophets are Subject to the Prophets 1 Cor. 14.32 And the Spirit of God perswades and commands Men to Obey every Ordinance of Man for the Lord's sake and to be subject to our Civil and Ecclesiastical Governours not only for Wrath but also for Conscience sake Rom. 13.5 1 Pet. 2.13 But these Men by their causeless and sinful Separation from our Church make a Schisme in it as by their frequent resistance of our rightful Kings they have made Rebellions in the State a thing which the Apostles and primitive Christians were never guilty of under the most bloody Persecutions but always abhor'd it as contrary to the good Spirit of God 2dly The base Railing and filthy Language which this Author and his Party do aften bestow upon us a brief account of which I have before given and shall now give an instance or two more of it to fill up the Measure of his Iniquity p. 44. speaking of Men that use Forms of Prayers by which without doubt he marks out us he says They in Person appear as Hypocrites and their Prayers are an abomination when they say they have been pouring out their Souls unto God he saith they have been Howling like Dogs and for this he quotes Hos 7.14 tho 't is plain he here adds to the Word of God there being no mention of Dogs in that place but only of the Children of Ephraims Howling upon their Beds and this bold Man adds thereunto like Dogs to render us more odious in the application But if we should take the same liberty and say that these Men in their Conventicles Groan and Grunt like Hogs and Snarl and Bark like Dogs tho' they cannot Bite and Devour us I believe they would Proclaim us for the most Wicked and Uncharitable People in the World For this very Man on the Score of our slighting his Praying by the Spirit as I think I have sufficiently prov'd we have Reason to do breaks out into this strange and horrid Exclamation Is it not the Mark of implacable Reprobates O fearful Can you not be content to be Damn'd for your Sins against the Law but you must Sin against the Holy Ghost Good God! That we should be accused of the Sin against the Holy Ghost only for Vindicating his Honour and exposing such Men as would father their Nonsense and Blasphemies upon him But in Truth 't is these are the Blasphemers of the Holy Spirit 't is these are the Corahs and Balaams of the Age that Rebel against our Moses and Aaron and Curse God's People to their Face even with bitter Words and venemous Expressions which shews them to be acted by the Instigation of another Spirit even that of Satan and Antichrist who are all for Railing and Reviling but the good Spirit of God is all for mild gentle and charitable Speeches Jud. 9. Michael the Arch-angel when contending with the Devil he Disputed about the Body of Moses durst not bring against him a railing Accusation but said The Lord rebuke thee The good Spirit of God where'er he rests produces kind Thoughts and charitable Expressions both which Jo. Bunyan is a Stranger to as is evident from p. 89. When Men Pray for a shew to be heard and thought some body in Religion there are two sorts of Men that Pray to this end 1st Your Trencher-Chaplains that thrust themselves into great Mens Families pretending the Worship of God when in truth the great Business is their own Bellies which were notably Painted out by Ahab's Prophets 1 K. 18. and also Nebuchadnezzar's Wise-men Dan. 2. who tho' they pretended great Devotion yet their Lusts and their Bellies were the great things aimed at by them in all their peices of Devotion Now can there be a greater Vncharitableness shewn than is couch'd in these few Words Wherein all the Chaplains of great Men without any exception are represented as a Company of gormandizing Epicures that make their Belly their God and to be as bad as Ahab's false Prophets which fed at Jezabel's Table and as bad as Nebuchadnezzar's Magicians who were initiated into the Black-Art and in a solemn League and Covenant with the Devil Good God! That a Man should publish to the World such Base and Scandalous Reflections on some Divines who for ought he knows to the contrary may be as good Christians and pious Persons as any in the Nation But if they call the Master of the House Beelzebub how much more shall they call them of his Houshold Mat. 10.25 May we not with more Truth call this Author a Corner-Chaplain That follows his poor Creatures that are deluded by him into every Corner of the House and there makes them Groan most bitterly or else he could not say as he does p. 73. I know 't is thus with them their Groans go up to Heaven from every Corner of the House I know they do Groan and that most bitterly Of this sort are they that creep into Houses and lead Captive silly Women laden with Sins and that is enough to make them Groan indeed 2 Tim. 3.6 But if this does not please him he must be contented to enjoy the Title of Tinker Chaplain as most agreeable to his old Trade tho' after all for want of Charity he proves to be but as sounding Brass or a tinkling Cymbal CHAP. IX FOR a farther Proof that Jo. Bunyan's Pretences to the Spirit are vain I shall produce his own Words in Evidence against him where he advises Parents not to teach their Children to Pray by any Form no not so much as the Lord's Prayer and then being not of themselves able to Pray extempore they must not Pray at all Evil Council indeed and which never came from the good Spirit of God it is p. 77.78 My Judgment is says he that Men go the wrong Way to learn their Children to Pray in going about so soon to teach them a set company of Words as is the common use of poor Creatures to do For to me it seems to be a better way for People betimes to tell their Children what cursed Creatures they are and how they are under the Wrath of God by reason of original and actual Sin as also to tell them the nature of Gods Wrath and the duration of the Misery which if they conscientiously do they would sooner learn their Children to Pray than they do But tho' this Author gives his Judgment in the Style of St. Paul yet does he shew by it that he has not the Spirit of God as St. Paul had for that Apostle advises Parents thus Ephes 6.4 Ye Fathers provoke not your Children to Wrath and to tell them they are all cursed Creatures in a damnable Condition and obnoxious to Hell torments which shall last for ever one would think were the ready way to provoke them to wrath indeed but St. Paul says provoke them not by any harsh Speeches at all as these certainly are which may sooner drive them
Dead but I have harkened to the Voice of the Lord my God and have done according to all that thou hast commanded me look down from thy holy Habitation from Heaven and bless thy People Israel and the Land which thou hast given us as thou swearest unto our Fathers a Land that floweth with Milk and Honey And both these Forms of Prayer and Thanksgiving were the Jewish People constantly to observe twice every Year in all succeeding Generations when they offer'd their first Fruits and Tythes before the Lord but according to John Bunyan's bantering way he would expose them thus The Wise Men of Moses his Days with himself the Priests and People were so well skill'd that they had both the matter and the manner of their Prayers at their Fingers end seting such a Prayer for such a Day and that twenty Years before it comes one for the Day wherein they Offered their First-fruits another for the Day wherein they Offered their Tythes they have also bounded how many Syllables must be said in every one of their Prayers at their publick Exercises for each of these Offering Days they have them ready for the Generations yet unborn to say so that if there be any weight in this way of Arguing it will cast as much disgrace upon the Prayers of Moses which yet were Dictated and Directed by the infinite Wisdom of Almighty God as upon the Prayers of the Church of England which were also Composed by the same Spirit If it be said that Moses the Jewish Priests and People had not the assistance of the Holy Spirit as we have and therefore they were tyed to Forms from which we are now set free I Answer or rather John Bunyan does it for me p. 53 You do not find any Words of Prayer that we read of come out of the Mouth of Moses when he was going out of Egypt and was followed by Pharaoh Ex. 14.15 and yet he made Heaven ring again with his Cry but it was the inexpressible and unsearchable Groans and Cryings of his Soul in and with the Spirit And this he repeats p. 75. so that by our Adversaries own Confession Moses had the Spirit and could Pray by it even in their Sense as well at least as any Gifted Brother of them all and yet this very Moses sometimes used a Form of Prayer himself and also prescribed a Form of Prayers for others even the Jewish Priests and People to be constantly observed by them on solemn Occasions and on such particular Days and Seasons of the Year 2dly Those two great solemn Festivals which my Author mentions as observ'd by our Church Christmas and Easter have good Authority for their Observation even in the New Testament for can we have better Warrant for our keeping Christmas-Day than the Holy Angels keeping of it in a full Quire as they did Luke 2.13 and suddenly there was with the Angel i. e. who brought the Shepherds the joyful News of Christ's Birth a Multitude of the Heavenly Host Praising God and saying and they did it all in the same Form Glory to God in the highest and on Earth Peace and good Will towards Men. Now What other Reason can there be given why so many if not all the Angels should be present on Earth at this time and unanimously Worship God except it were to teach us to set apart this Day in all future Ages for a Day of Thanksgiving to God for the greatest Mercy was afforded the World since the Creation even the Birth and Incarnation of the Saviour of it Well may we keep Christmass-Day our Humane Nature being assum'd into the Godhead and a Saviour being Born to us upon it which is Christ the Lord When the Holy Angels kept this Day whose Nature he did not assume and to whom he was not Born a Saviour as he was to us I shall say no more in behalf of this great Festival but Transcribe a Passage out of the Assemblies Annotations on this portion of Scripture Luke 2. 13. ‖ See the Assemblies Annotations on Luke 2.13 Thus God would say they have this publick Service for so their Multitude made it performed by all who have Knowledge of and Interest in the Birth of Christ as to manifest his Mercy and Truth so to Condemn their stupid Ingratitude who perversely refuse to joyn in this Duty as if general Precepts in Gods Word right Reason and the Examples of Men and Angels inspired by Gods Spirit chosen Witnesses of of our Saviours Nativity and for this same purpose sent by God himself from Heaven that they might thus Celebrate that Day were not sufficient Warrant to lead them to Imitation and joining in an Holy Harmony with them And as for our keeping Easter Day can we have better Authority than St. Pauls Command for it 1 Cor. 5.7 8. Christ our Passover is Sacrificed for us therefore let us keep the Feast i.e. Easter which is our Christian Passover that comes in the room of the Jewish not with the old Leaven neither with the Leaven of Malice and Wickedness which is a plain Allusion to some of the Typical Ceremonies wherewith the Israelites kept their Passover and proves that we Christians should keep Easter with the substance of those Types even the unleavened Bread of Sincerity and Truth i. e. in a pious Preparation for and devout Participation of the Lords Supper in a Death to Sin and a Resurrection to newness of Life Yet besides this Scriptural Argument I shall add one Consideration more and that is King Charles the Martyrs Quaery propounded to the Parliaments Commissioners at Holdenby April 23. 1647. I desire to be resolved of this Question Why the new Reformers discharge the keeping of Easter The Reason of this Quaery it I conceive the Celebration of this Feast was Instituted by the same Authority which changed the Jewish Sabbath into the Lords Day or Sunday for it will not be found in Scripture where Saturday is discharged to be kept or turned into the Sunday wherefore it must be the Churches Authority that Changed the one and Instituted the other therefore my Opinion is that those who will not keep this Feast may as well return to the Observation of Saturday and refuse the weekly Sunday when any Body can shew me that herein I am in an Error I shall not be ashamed to confess and amend it till when you know my Mind C. R. Lastly As to the Observation of Saints Days those Men have no Reason to upbraid us with it who every Year keep their Festival Days in Memory of the Seiges and prosperous Rebellion they rais'd and maintain'd against their rightful Soveraign Indeed had they Fought for him and been preserv'd and deliver'd in so Just and Loyal a Cause to have kept an Anniversary Day in Remembrance of it wou'd have been a justifiable Practice and so it is to observe those few Saints Days whose Memory our Church requires us once a Year to Celebrate having the like Authority