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A67644 A defence of the doctrin and holy rites of the Roman Catholic Church from the calumnies and cavils of Dr. Burnet's Mystery of iniquity unveiled wherein is shewed the conformity of the present Catholic Church with that of the purest times, pagan idolatry truly stated, the imputation of it clearly confuted, and reasons are given why Catholics avoid the Reformation : with a postscript to Dr. R. Cudworth / by J. Warner of the Soc. of Jesus. Warner, John, 1628-1692. 1688 (1688) Wing W907; ESTC R38946 162,881 338

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a vulgar Language do you think the Church obliged presently to change her Service If you do shew me the ground of that Obligation If you can shew no Command for such a perpetual Change in the Liturgy Condemn our Church no more for not doing what you cannot shew she is bound to do G. B. pag. 30. Shall I here tell of the charming of Water of Salt of Waxcandles of Roses Agnus Dei's Medals and the like Answer It is not easie to conjecture what you blame in these things nor for what reason unless it be that Papists use them and that is enough to draw your Censure Do the things themselves displease you They are the Creatures of God and all creatures of God are good 1 Tim. 4.4 and nothing ought to be rejected which is received with thanksgiving as I assure you Papists use those things Or are you offended that they are bless'd That is unreasonable seeing that gives a kind of Sanctity to them They are sanctified by the word of God and by Prayer says S. Paul in the place above cited So that I think the practice of blessing several things comes from Apostolical Tradition and that it is grounded on that Text of S. Paul. And I desire you to fix the time when you think they began and I am perswaded I can shew them to be ancienter then any time since the Two first Ages determinable if not all yet some of them so as by those which can be shewed from the beginning the rest by lawful consequence may be deduc'd as not unlawful or Enchantments See Baronius ad an D. 57 58. and 132. in which places he shews the use of them to be so ancient that if you pretend those Blessings to be Popery you must own the purest Antiquity to be Papist And as for Water blest by holy men it is so far from being a diabolical Charm that it is an efficacious Remedy against Charms of the Devil You will find the vertue of it confirmed by miracles in Epiph. haer 30. When it was used by Josephus a Count under Constantine the great In S. Hierome in vita Hilarionis that this Saint by the use of it destroyed the Charms of Marnas or Jupiter adored at Gaza In Theodoret. l. 5. Hist c. 21. that S. Marcellus Bishop of Apamea with it chaced away Jupiter Apamenus who hindred the burning of his Temple And in Bede l. 1. Hist Angl. c. 17. that S. Jerman Bishop of Auxerre with it allayed a Tempest Which you may see in Baron ad an D. 132. what will you say to those things As the Pharisees that all this was done in the Divels name That you cannot for then you must own that one Divel cast out another and his kingdom is divided which is by our Saviour press'd against the Pharisees as absurd and incredible and consequently cannot be said by a Christian Nay altho you deny all credit to these holy and learned Men which in a matter of fact is in a manner impudent yet will you not be quit of this Argument for at least these Fathers thought Water so blest a fit instrument to work those stupendious works otherwise they would never have believed those stories neither would they have related them without believing them Hence you may see how different your Faith is from theirs who think that a Charm which they judged a Divine Blessing CHAP. XII Of Ceremonies G. B. p. 34. THE Sacramental Actions are polluted by the superfetation of so many new Rites whereby they are wholly changed from their original Simplicity Answer You can alledge nothing against our Rites or Ceremonies but will serve as well against your own and what you can say in defence of yours against Presbyterians will fully satisfie your Argument against ours It is a great folly to look on Ceremonies as an essential part of our Worship and it is as great to deny that when they are decent and significant they are great helps to it Men are composed of Body and Soul with both we must serve God and each is an help to the other when they concur to worship him The Body can do nothing without the Soul and all its Worship is meer hypocrisie and not worthy of acceptation and dead unless it be quickened by interiour Faith and Charity which flow from the Soul. And this Devotion soon grows cold if it be not entertain'd with exterior Objects and revived by sensible Actions which fix the Imaginative faculty on the Acts of Religion in hand and move the Will both of him who Officiates and of the Assistants to dispositions proportionable to the Rite by a certain Sympathy betwixt our Soul and Body the Soul feeling an inward veneration for God to express it inclines the Body to Kneeling Prostrations or the like and these increase the interiour Veneration when duly and devoutly made This is the sence of mankind for there never was any People who met to honour either God or Prince but had some settled Ceremonies with which they express'd exteriourly their Submission to them The French Hugonots pared off those they found in the Roman Church as superstitious and the most Learned and Religious of that Communion wish their worship were adorned with some Rites whose want they lament as being an undecent nakedness and an occasion of much Irreligion and disrespectfulness in giving and receiving the Sacraments themselves I believe did you pursue the Prophaneness so common in England to its head you will find your want and neglect of Religious Ceremonies to be the fountain of it In your Vindication of the Laws pag. 170. you say the Church hath power to determin of things that may be done in a variety of ways into one particular Form such as prescribing a set Form of Worship the ordering the posture in Sacraments the Habits in Worship c. Which will hedg in what you reject as well as what you retain G. B. pag. 34. In Baptism instead of washing with Water in the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost they have added many adulterated Rites Answer These words signifie an Abrogation of Washing with Water and a substitution of other Rites in lien of it which is so far from Truth and so black a Calumny that I wonder you could advance it or your Church permit it especially seeing the guilt falls on her for not baptizing those who fall from us to you as she ought to do if we omit washing in the Name which is the essential part of the Sacrament But you speak against Popery and that is enough to justifie all untruths and get a licence for any Calumny as appears by this very Passage G. B. pag. 34. The Child must be blown upon then a Charm used for turning the Devil out of him Answer Blowing upon the Child and exorcising it were practised in the purest times You will find them in Cyril of Hierus (a) Catech. 1. Ambrose (b) l. 1. de Sac. c. 5. Leo (c) Epist 4.