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A65399 A reply by T.W. citizen of Chester, to a Vindication of Mr. M.H's Brief enquiry into the true nature of schism, from the exceptions of T.W. &c. By a person who conceals his name T.W. citizen of Chester. 1692 (1692) Wing W128; ESTC R219277 46,420 51

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that our Diocesan Bishops in the Church of England are invested with this Divine Authority by an uninterrupted Succession and so are made our Spiritua● Rulers by the same Divine Authority Now these Dissenters having this Divine Authority among 'em it follows by my Adversary's acknowledgment that the Dissenters in England want this Qualisication for Communion by which Communion must be understood the Communion of Saints In the same p. he says A single person taking upon him to Govern some Thousands of Congregations by such Rulers and Officers as our English Prelacy uses and this by the Nomination of the Civil Magistrate without the consent of the people or the Ministers within the Diocess is a Creature we find not in Scripture nor in Primitive times and therefore can be no Spiritual Governors of ours by Divine Right c. That the Jurisdiction of English Prelates is of Divine Right being proved this Creature as he scoffingly calls it which he says they can neither find in Scripture nor in Primitive times is evidently found in both and no other Creature that is no other Government of the Church can be found in either so that his objections against Congregations being numerous in a particular Diocess comes to nothing Their Rulers and Officers are mentioned before But it is worth Observation to see how the Regular Accession of a Bishop to his Diocess is maliciously called by him a single Person taking it upon himself as if it were mere Usurpation But that which he seems to be much Scandalized at is their Nomination by the Civil Majestrate without the consent of the people or the Ministers of the Diocese If it would not swell my papers too much I could give him very many Instances to prove that for many Ages the Nomination of Bishops hath been in the Right of Christian Emperors and Christian Kings and that it hath been so very Anciently in England and ther 's great reason it should be so for they were the Founders of Bishopricks who else then can of Right lay claim to the Patronage of presenting to them what confusion would be the result how endless the Feuds and Animositys in every Dioces were their Elections Tumultuary and Popular By the Presbyters of the Dioces they are Elected the Dean and Chapter in every Dioces being their Representatives and this is to prevent Animosities and Divisions among the Clergie in the Election of Bishops and the Clergie or any other Person as well without as within the Dioces have liberty to put in any Allegation they have against him and the Crime if proved Judicially invalidates the Election and all proceedings therein So that all their Quarrel in this is only against the Ancient Right of the Crown and the wisdom of the Clergie in preventing strife and contention That Diocesan Bishops are our Spiritual Rulers by Divine Authority being proved answers all he says in his 32 and ends in his 33 P. His words are these When this man or any one for him has made it appear that the Authority of a Diocesan Prelat Dean Lay Chancellor c. over all in the Diocess is as Sacred as that of Moses and Aaron we will not dare to dispute it for seare of Corah's doom c. I hope he will not take it amiss if we be not frighted out of our wits by such misapply'd passages c. The Dean Lay Chancellor c. are Prudential Officers and have not a Divine but a Legal thô humane Authority But the Authority of a Diocesan Prelate conferr'd by and derived from the Son of God must be as Sacred as that of Moses and Aaron for the Apostle St. Paul in his Epist to the Hebrews puts a far higher value and esteem upon the Evangelical than the Aaronical Priesthood then certainly to set up Congregations in defiance and combination against Evangelical Priesihood viz. Diocesan Prelacy is a Crime of as deep a Dy as that of Corah and his Congregation Now thô I have more Charity than to have these men frighted out of their wits yet I heartily wish that they may be frighted into a sence of their guilt and into a fear of disputing the Crime being of the same Complexion with that of Corah for althô God doth not now usually avenge himself against such proud and obstinate Offenders as he did to Corah by the imediate execution of his Judgments yet he hath reserved a Day wherein his wrath against all despisers of his Authority and all other unrighteousnesses of obstinate and impenitent Sinners will be revealed He says Such misapply'd pasages viz. as that of Corah they have often heard urged to back the Do●rin of Non-resistance and all those Principles of Slavery some men have bee endeavering to instil into our minds c. Be the consequences what ever they may happen to be the Doctrine of Non-resistance was the Doctrin of the Holy Apostles These are the words of St. Paul Let every Soul be Subject to the Higher Powers for there is no Power but of God the Powers that be are Ordained of God Whosoever therfore resisteth the Power resisteth the Ordinance of God and they that resist receive to themselvs Damnation Rom 13.12 These Precepts of the Apostle are to continue eternally and are unalterable irreversible by any human Authority whatsoever To the observation wherof and obedience wherunto all Christians are infallibly oblig'd Now thô this Gent. may be above my advice yet it will be his wisdom not to preach any Doctrin contrary to this Divine Precept not only because it is contradicted by the Court of Rome but because the Government will punish it as Seditious He says in Pa. 33. In what Bounds he will six the Primitive Church we know not certain it is a Century or Two made a considerable change in the seatures of the Goverment and Worship c. Let him and all his Fellow-Dissenters lay their heads together and if they will be so kind to themselves as to search the Histories of the Church and the writings of the Fathers concerning the Goverment and Worship in the Church and shew if they can any change in the Goverment and worship in the three first Ceuturies which until they perform my assertion stands firm As for the change of Government which he so confidently affirms barely upon his own Authority and Fancy is notoriously false for what the Government was then it has continued to be in all Catholic Churches to this day so as that therin there hath been no change at all But says he in Pa. 34. If we must take our measures by these Churches that are truly Primitive we fear not to put our selves to the Tryal c. Well! thô we have no Security that upon this Tryal they will stand to the Verdict yet let it be Tryed He says That our Congregations have this Agreement in Faith none will deny Dissenters agree not with the Primitive Church It is not the Agreement they have in their Congregations with