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A16828 A true, sincere and modest defence, of English Catholiques that suffer for their faith both at home and abrode against a false, seditious and slanderous libel intituled; The exectuion of iustice in England. VVherein is declared, hovv vniustlie the Protestants doe charge Catholiques vvith treason ... Allen, William, 1532-1594. 1584 (1584) STC 373; ESTC S100110 150,813 230

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her special othe and obligation she is bound more to defend and protect the Church then her subiects be And finallie vpon al the proofes reasons and authorities that haue gone before we auouch that besides God almightie euerie tēporal Prince Christened hath his pastor also and speciallie the general gouernour of the whole Church for his superiour in earth in al causes of soule conscience to whos orders in matter of religion he is bound to obey vnder paine of damnation and that Gods iust iudgements are nere the Princes and countries what soeuer that wil not obey him but violentlie resist his ordinance and by Antichristian pride doe chalenge power not lauful to be yeelded vnto them THE CONCLVSION CONTEINING A CHARITABLE MOTION AND A ioinder vvith the Libeller touching some meanes of tolleration in Religion and ceasing or mitigating this cruel Persecution CAP. IX AND now though in the deepe conceauing of this our Countries incōparable offence our hartes be wholie oppressed with feare and heauines yet ether the force of our peculiar affectiō towardes our flesh and blood driuing vs to hope for better then is deserued or the largenes of Gods immesurable mercies yeelding contrarie to mans demerits pardō vpon repentance doe cause vs often-times to expect grace mercie rather then extreme rigour and iudgement In which cogitatiō it cometh often to our mindes Causes of feares and hope tovvardes our Countrie that if anie thing auert Gods ire from our Prince and Countrie it is the abundance of holie blood shed thes late yeares euer sith the first reuolt Which though by iustice it might crie rather to God for vengeance and so it doth in respect of the impenitent and the clamor therof shal neuer be void yet we trust it sueth for mercie speciallie in respect of the infinite number of al estates that neuer consented to this iniquitie It is the heroical endeuour of a great-manie zealous Priestes and worthie gentlemen that continuallie offer not onelie their praiers and other deuout and religious offices but them selues in sacrifice for the saluation of their best beloued Countrie It is the ardent and incessant care of his Holines seeking our reconcilement with charitie vnspeakable It is the general coniunctiō of al Christiā mindes in the whole world towardes our recouerie No Church no Companie Monasterie or College of name in Christēdome that with earnest deuotiō and publique fastes and praiers laboreth not to God for mercie towardes vs. Finallie euen thos thinges and persons that the aduersaries accompt to be the cause of al their troubles feares are indeed the onely hope of Gods mercy their owne pardon and our Countries saluation In which case to deale as freelie for a farewel and as charitablie with the Libeller as he would seeme to conclude with vs we wishe no more for performance of that he proposeth and partlie promiseth The Libellers offer in the ende of his booke Fol. 18. but that he were assured of her Maiesties and the Councels mind therin or were of such credit with them that he could bring that to good effect which ī couert wordes he pretendeth towardes vs which is that he doubteth not but her Maiesty would shed no more the blood of her natural subiectes nor vse any more bodilie punishmēts at al if they would desist from their practises abrode from their writing of railīg bookes and from wandering in disguised apparel within the Realme would imploy their trauail in the workes of light and doctrine according to the vsage of their schooles and content them selues with their profession and deuotion So the man speaketh how soeuer he meaneth But Alas if anie mercie iust or tollerable treatie were meant The vrgent distresses of English Catholiques or euer had bene offred to Catholiques vpon anie reasonable conditions what so euer our aduersaries had neuer needed to haue fallen to such extreme proceedinges with their owne flesh and blood nor euer had anie such troubles fears or dāgers bene thought vpon wherof now they haue so deepe apprehension If anie pitiful eare had euer bene giuen by the superiours to the incessant grones cries teares and supplications of their Catholique subiects desiring but releefe of their infinitlie distressed consciences tormented by damnable othes articles and exercises of Caluinisme that were forced vpon them if they might haue had ether by licence or conniuēce in neuer so few places of the Realme neuer so secretlie neuer so inoffensiuelie the exercise of that faith religiō which al their forefathers since our Countrie was conuerted liued and died in and in which them selues were baptised and from which by no lawe of God nor man they can be compelled to anie sect or rite of religion which they nor their forefathers euer voluntarilie accepted or admitted if of al the noble Churches Colleges and other inestimable prouisiōs of the Realme founded and made onelie by Catholiques and for Catholiques and for no protestants nor anie their sacrilegious ministeries at al some few had bene permitted to the true owners and to that true worship of God for which they were instituted if they might haue obteined anie peece of that libertie which Catholiques enioy in Germanie Zuicherland or other places among protestāts or half the freedome that the Hugonots haue in Fraunce and other countries yea or but so much courtesie as the Christians find among the verie Turks or verie Ievves among Christians vpon anie reasonable or vnreasonable tribute which hath bene often in most humble and lamentable sort offered and vrged or to be short if anie respect care or compassiō in the world had bene had ether of Catholique mens soules bodies or goods our aduersaries should neuer haue bene troubled nor put in ielousie of so manie mens malcontentment at home nor stand in doubt of the departure absence of so great a number of Nobilitie and principal gētlemen abrode they should neuer haue had such Colleges and Seminaries in other Princes dominions erected and furnished with English youthes the issue wherof is now and perhaps wil be hereafter more more wonderful to the world they should not haue bene controlled in their Heresie so zealouslie and effectuallie by the Priestes created at home of old or latelie ordeined and sacred abrode ther should haue bene no cause of writing so manie bookes for defence of our innocencie and the Faith of our forefathers and for our iust complaint to the Christian world of the intollerable rigour or crueltie vsed against vs. In al which bookes no protestant in England is able to reproue the writers of anie vntruth or slaunder railing immodestie or misbehauiour towardes our secular Princesse or persecutours what so euer the Libeller without proof affirmeth here Wherin I auow him to be so much destitute of truth as he is not able to alleage one line or sentence or anie one example out of our writinges to the contrarie as on the other side nether he nor any els can cleare our aduersaries the
simplicitie by the tyrannie of such as occupie vnder them principal authoritie How this sort of men abused the years sexe and benignitie also of the noble ladie now Q. of Scotland The traitours of Scotland whos fortune therbie hath bene so hard as the world now seeth withal bow they haue abused her most high and excellent Sonnes minoritie to th'aduauncement of their sect and selues no man can be ignorant And now when that rare Prince is come to years of knowledge and therby like to espie and punish the wicked treacherie and treasons of thos that haue so abhominablie abused his infancie and Mothers sexe they barbarouslie by the counsel of wicked Ministers the raskalitie of the Realme ceazed vpon his royal person and sithence being deliuered by God from his enimies handes they sticke not to tel him to his face that he was erected by them to defend this new and barbarous Gospel of theirs and onelie vpon feare of his further years they seeke to put his noble person in dailie danger This loe is the deuotion of Protestants towards their Princes agreable to their former opinions recited before But of their diuinitie we make no further accompt then is requisite for this dispute now in hād with their fellowe Protestants and with thos speciallie of England who are the principal protectors of al thes practizes coloured by religion wherof yet they haue no further care thē cōcerneth onely their owne interest But it is sufficient for vs that with thes men if we may beleeue ether their words or deeds it is no treason to resist the Soueraigne for defence of Religion nor no treasonable assertion to hould that a lauful Prince may be deposed in case of reuolt from God And so say also on the other side al Catholique men and schooles in the Christian world concerning this point The different maner of proceeding of Catholiques and Protestants in cēsuring their Princes for Religion But yet here is the difference betwene Catholique Christians and rebellious Heretiques that thes good-fellowes folowing their owne deceiptful wils and vncertaine opinions without rule or reason doe adiudge by their priuate follie and phantasie that thing to be errour or idolatrie which indeed is true Religion and doe condemne for Gods enemies such their lauful Souerains as holy Church which herein must be our cheefe informer and iudge doth allow for most iust godly sacred and Catholique Princes The Catholiques contrariwise as men of order obedience not trusting their owne particuler imaginations or partial affections which might lead opiniatiue and restlesse braines to raise rebellion at their pleasure vnder pretense of religion wherof the Protestants haue giuē vs pitiful examples thes years past when soeuer the wicked desired chāge of gouernours and estate doe commit the direction of matters so important to the Church and to the cheefe gouernours of their soules who can iudge by the Scriptures Canons and Councels what is Heresie who is an Heretique what Prince is worthie to be excommunicated who to be depriued who is incorrigible who may be expected in hope of amendment who not in what season and sort to the lest disturbance and most benefite safetie of the kingdome or place annoyed by such vnworthie Princes the thing must be executed The Church is not partial in thes thinges The Catholique Church the best iudge of Heresie as we that be subiects may be it is not decent that inferiours should determine at their pleasures of ther superiors What way therfore can we take in Christian religion more seemelie and sure in conscience for thes affaires then to harken to the highe priest of Gods Church by whos directiō our consciences in this case cannot lightlie erre or surelie not so perniciouslie when we folowe them to whom Christ hath giuen the charge of our soules and must render accompt therof to him as to the supreme Bishop of al by whom and for whom onelie al kinges doe raigne Catholiques therfore as you see agree with th' other in the point of deposing and resisting kinges for Religion but yet doe differ in the maner as far as reason and conscience differ from furie and phrensie About which matter I wil now set doune some Catholique writers albeit but few for breuitie sake The opiniōs of Catholique vvriters about depositiō of Princes for Apostasy Heresy yet of such excellent credit as shal be able to instruct and satisfy anie reasonable consciēce in this case as also to be our brethrens defence against al thos that charge them so deadlie with thes treasonable propositions Thomas Aquin that glorious Saint and clarke whos onelie sentence weigheth more then al the Protestants wits and wordes in the world saith thus S. Thomas Postquàm Princeps est denunciatus Apostata omnes inferiores subditi absoluuntur a praestito iuramento obedientia illi debita that is to say After a Prince is one denounced to be an Apostata al his inferiors and subiects are assoyled of their othe made vnto him of their obedience due vnto him This case therfore is plainlie resolued vpō Toledos opinion of a Prince excōmunicat in 2. 2. by the greatest of al the schoole Doctors and therfore can be no treasonable assertion or opinion Vpon which wordes of S. Thomas the famous professor of our time Francis Toledo writeth further thus Nota saith he quòd eadem est ratio de Excommunicato quia cúm primùm quis est denuntiatus excommunicatus omnes subditi absoluuntur ab eius obedientia Licet enim sit notorium crimen Principis non absoluuntur vasalli a iuramento vt bene dicit Caietanus ante denuntiationem ab Ecclesia qua facta non solum sunt absoluti ab obedientia sed tenentur non obedire nisi fortè propter periculum vitae vel damnum bonorum temporalium Et sic de Henrico octauo in Anglia factum est cui etsi subditi postquàm denuntiatus esset excommunicatus tenebantu● non obedire tamen quia is crudelis erat illos vel vita vel bonis priuasset excusati fuerunt subditi illi adhuc obediēdo Which is in English Note saieth he that albeit S. Thomas named onelie an Apostata yet the reason is al one in the Princes case that is excommunicated For as soone as one is denounced or declared an excōmunicate al his subiects be discharged of their obediēce For though the crime of a Prince be notorious yet before declaratiō therof be made by the Church the vassals are not assoyled frō obedience as Caietanus wel holdeth which declaration being made by the Church they are not onelie discharged of their loyaltie but are bound not to obey him anie more except it be for feare of their liues The case of K. Henrie the eight or losse of their temporal goods As it was in England in the time of Henrie th' eight whom though the subiects were bound not to obey after he was denounced excōmunicate