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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A64459	The Testimony of the Hartford Quakers for the man Christ Jesus vindicated from the malicious slanders, perversions, confusions, impertinencies and idle quibling of William Haworth an independent-preacher ... : with a brief and serious reply by Mary Stout to what concerns her in Christianity re-established, which ... John Crook and William Bayly have discovered ... unto which the substance of this tract will serve for an appendix.	Stout, Mary, 17th cent. Mary Stout's reply to William Haworth's answer.	1676 (1676)	Wing T819; ESTC R32759	41,433	58

Ascention or being in Heaven W. H. thou art quite out Again that Change that we believe Christ Jesus to have had into a State of Glory which as the Son he had with the Father before the World began doth not at all deny Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah as most unjustly thou hast accused us both in thy Antidote and Animadversions p. 6. for it was the same Jesus that so prayed Father glorifie thy Son glorifie thou me with thine own self with the Glory which I had with thee before the World was John 17. 1. 5. yet it is a plain falshood to say that We suppose that the manhood as thou calls it that was taken of the Virgin is turned into an Imme●se i●finite being a Deity It was never our Supposition p. 6. that the meer ●lesh Blood that the Son took of the Virgin which was part of the same the C●ildren had became a D●ity an Immense infinite being when thou wantest proof for thy Slanders against us thou must needs Invent and Forge suppositions meanings and absurd Consequences for us Oh! perverse Man is this to support thy Credit and Trade among thy Hearers to say we do supp●se that which never entred into our Hearts W. H. His Soul was in the Saints We may dispare at this rate ever by words to understand one another here 's Babel p. 8. Answ In Babel thou art who accusest and revilest us and drawest thy absurd Meanings upon us without understanding us shewing thy ignorant Confidence Of the Soul or Spirit of Christ we shall speak anon Against our saying He Christ had all Power in Heaven and Earth given him and therefore could descent at his pleasure and he promised to be with his Disciples alway to the End W. H Objects To Argue from Christ's Power to his will was never accounted strong or right Reasoning * But the learned and Zealous Protestants affirmed Christ's Spiritual presence with his Church in opposition to the Papists Doctrine of his Carnal presence in their Sacrament The Papists argued thus against the Martyrs for their Transubstantiation viz. God had Power to turn Bread into his natural Body Ergo p. 8. Ans A most gross perversion and abuse not only against us but against Christ's own Testimony whereby his WILL to be with his Disciples to the end of the World as well as his Power to come again unto them is signified And JESUS spake unto them saying ALL POWER is GIVEN unto me c. Lo I am with you alway even unto the end of the World Mat. 28. 18 20. But W. H. has denyed Jesus Christ to be here on Earth as he is Man that is either as to his Body or Spirit Antid p. 2 3. It is not a Corporal and carnal Vnion between Christ and his Members that we plead for that 's not the Controversie nor do we speak of the manhood being locally or Personally present with and in the Saints as he would Insinuate p. 9. But the spiritual presence of Christ Jesus according to his promise Mat. 28. 20. As the SON of God to whom all Pow●r IS GIVEN according to his own sense And though our Adversary has denyed the Holy manhood of Christ even in the Spirituallity of it that is as to his Spirit to be on Earth in or with his Church yet hath he confessed that CHRIST is in the Saints by his Spirit Antid p. 5. And that Christ hath alway been present with his Disciples in the discharge of their ministerial Gifts and will be to the end of the World by HIS Spirit Animad p. 9. Where 's now the Controversie Is the heavenly Man Christ wholely separate from his Church and Members not only in Body but in Spirit also yea circumscribed in some place as far as the highest Heavens are supposed from the Earth Antid pag. 6. As a Man may be many Miles distant from his Wife c. Anim. p. 9. And yet this same Christ alway present with his Disciples And as there 's one Soul throughout the natural Body of man the same in the Head and in every Member so ONE Spirit in Jesus Christ the Mystical Head and in every one of his Members the Saints Anim. p. 9. Now if thi● man meant really as he speaks as to the spiritual Presence and Union of Christ Jesus with and in his Saints and Church on Earth and would lay aside his Enmity and Confusion and keep to Scripture-Language the Controversie between him and us would be at an end But in p. 10. he has framed a Dilemical Quarrel against the Spirit of Christ being in every Saint which he sayes we invest with the Office of the holy Ghost which he concludes cannot be so either with or without the Body nor yet extending from it in Heaven to every Saint upon Earth For that were to render the Soul of Christ immense i●finite and then there must be a new created God in time the Soul of Christ's Manhood was created in time Error is Crookedness Absurdity and Rottenness quoth W. H. And yet he saith The Saints ought to worship the Humane Nature of Christ in Vnion with the Deity Anti. p. 6 7. And that the Humane Nature giveth Life to our Souls p. 7. Can it do so and yet his Spirit not so much as extend to us though immensly impowered with the Deity How doth he darken Counsel by words without Knowledge And W. H. leaves us not thus but has another fling at us p. 19. But he Christ is on Earth the Quakers say at least in one essential part of his Manhood His Soul is in every Saint You see Error is big-bellyed and fruitful And p. 20. 30. Refining Religion and the blessed holy true real operative Manhood of Jesus Christ into Air Wind Fancy Nothing ‖ Gross Lyes c. Rep What a heap of jumbled Arguing mudled Stuff with a most false Conclusion against us is here as if we went about to annihilate the most holy and glorious Manhood of Jesus Christ Now we would query of this Man First If the Soul and Spirit of Christ be not one and the same 2. If he was the Son of God before the World was what then is his Soul and in what time created 3. If the Spirit of Christ and the holy Ghost be separate or divided 4. If Jesus Christ in all the parts essential and proper to him viz. in Body and Soul or Spirit be so circumscribed and limited in Heaven as in no sense or degree to be in or with his Saints or Members on Earth then how is his own Promise or Saying made good Lo I am with you alway to the End of the World And how has the Father given the Son Power over all Flesh that he should give Eternal Life to as many as the Father gave him John 17. 5. And doth not God send the Spirit of his Son into Believers Hearts that thereby they might partake of his holy and heavenly

both and so h●s dealt un●ai●ly and not only in these but in many more Particulars hath he abused perverted and confounded our words as well as the Scriptures which would fill a Volumn to open distin●tly He makes no Conscience of belying us and grosly perverting our Words and Intentions 'T is probable he would take it as an Affront and Injury if we should retalliate upon him or enumerate the Consequences of his Carnal Conceits to shew what a strange Chri●t he has set forth But at present wee 'l suppose these two to follow from his Doctrine until he reconcile and clear himself better then he has yet done viz. 1. Th●t Christ being wholely in the highest Heaven and his Body there more bright then a Thousand Sons Antid p. 6. yet cannot be seen by any Teliscope or Prospective Glasses as many unseen Stars may He must needs be at a wonderful vast Distance from his Saints and Members on Earth 2. That his very Spirit or Soul is so bound up in that Body at that vast height and wonderful distance in Heaven that it cannot so much as extend to any Saints upon Earth to vi●it and comfort them in any of their Tryals or See p 10. Temptations Satan it seems has more Power to come and tempt them then Christ has to come to help them though beyond measure endued with Divine Power sad and inconsistent News And yet the Flesh of Christ is such as giveth Life to our Souls in quickning of us to Righteousness Antid p. 7. It seems then his Flesh extends farther then his Spirit But the true Christ is not divided His Heavenly Humanity and Divinity act in Union in quickening whom ●e will the Seed that he has sown in the Souls of men and the Spirit of Life that he breaths in are of himself as truly as that HOLY THING conceived in the Virgin was of the Holy Ghost And was not Christ spiritually formed in the Saints by the same Power of the Holy Ghost And Christ said He that eateth my Fl●sh and drinketh my Blood dwelleth in me and I in him John 6. 56. Moreover We do both firmly believe that the Worlds were made by the Son of God and that by him all things consist he being that Word that was with God and that was God in the Beginning and that this Son of God was the first born of every Creature and the first begotten of the Dead and since by Man came Death by Man came also the Resurrection of the Dead And also we do as really confess according to holy Scripture That this Son of God in due time took upon him a real Body prepared for him of the same Flesh and Blood which the Children had Hebr. 2. 14. was made of the Seed of David according to the Flesh and declared to be the Son of God with Power according to the Spirit of Holiness by the Resurrection from the Dead Rom. 1. 3 4. That this Christ the Son of God took upon him the Form of a Servant and was made in the Likeness or Habit of men and being found in fashion as a man he humbled himself and became obedient unto Death even the Dea●h of the Cross wherefore God hath highly exalted him c. Phil. 2. So that he being come s● low as to be thus made and fashioned as in the similitude of men as man his Soul was capable of Humiliation Sorrow and Affliction for Mankind and of sympathizing with his Servants yet still was the Only begotten of the Father and was full of Grace and Truth the express Image of his Father's Substance he was also made a quickning Spirit to all who are spiritually quickened by him he was taken up into Glory he was glorified with the Deity or God himself with the same Glory that he had with the Father before the World began he ascended far above all Heavens that he might fill all things for it hath pleased the Father that ALL Fulness should dwell in him So that the True Christ is neither divided nor may we entertain such Mean Low Carnal Thoughts of this Son of God this only begotten of the Father as That he is a FINITE Creature in a natural earthly Body in Heaven and he therein wholly separate as one there circumscribed or limited to such a wonderful far Distance as is supposed from all his Saints and Church on Earth We have neither thus learnt Christ or received the Son of God nor thus read of him in the holy Scriptures under those Terms but have a Measure of the Knowledge of the Son of God as the Father hath revealed him in us Finally There is no more Inconsistency or denying the Man Christ between our confessing his Ascention into Heaven and Glory yea far above all Heavens and his coming again in Spirit to be spiritually present with and in his Church then is in these Testimonies of the holy Apostles viz. 1. That Saying of Peter Who is gone into Heaven and is on the Right Hand of God 1 Pet. 3. 22. And Behold I lay IN SION a Chief Corner-stone elect precious 1 Pet. 2. 6. As also Heb. 4. 14. Seeing then that we have a great High Pri●st that 's passed into the Heavens Jesus the Son of God Compared with Hebr. 12. 24. Ye are come to Jesus the Mediator of the New Covenant c. Ephes 1. 20. Which he wrought in Christ when he raised him from the Dead and set him at his own Right Hand in the Heavenly Places Compared with Ephes 2. 6. And hath raised us up together and made us sit together in Heavenly Places in Christ Jesus 1 Cor. 15. 3 4 5. Christ dyed for our Sins he was buried rose again the third day was seen of Cephas then of the Twelve c. Compared with 2 Cor. 4. 11. We which live are alway delivered unto Death for Jesus's sake that the Life also of Jesus might be made manifest IN our mortal Flesh Gal. 2. 20. I am crucified with Christ nevertheless I live yet not I but Christ liveth in me c. Rom. 8. 10. If CHRIST BE IN YOU the Body is dead because of Sin but the Spirit is Life because of Righteousness 2 Cor. 13. 5. Examine your selves whether ye be in the Faith prove your own selves know ye not your own selves how that JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOU except ye be Reprobates Let our Adversary Answer these Scriptures if he can but we suppose he dares not accuse them with Inconsistency nor any of them with denying the Man Christ But if W. H. be minded to busie himself with an Answer or Reply to this Treatise and thereby put his Hearers to further Charge with his Books we would advise him first to consult with some of his learned Brethren who are wiser then himself that they may view his Work before it go to the Press and take special Care that he writes pertinently and consistently lest he run into further Absurdities and self-contradictions

well pleasing in his sight THROUGH JESUS CHRIST Heb. 13. 20 ●1 What 's more plain then that God enlightens us and Works in us by his S●n Jesus Christ in condiscention and sub●erviency to himself and that those Primitive believing Gentiles waited for his Son from Heaven looked for the Glorious appearing of the great God AND our Saviour Jesus Christ as ●is Grace taught them and that he did work in them what was well pleasing in his sight THROUGH JESUS CHRIST Mark t●at did the Heavens then and yet contain Jesus Christ at such a Remotenes● from all Saints on Earth Were all these former Believers disappointed in their hope and expectations and waiting for the Son of God from Heaven Or did they only attain to the Glorious appearing of the great God not of Jesus Christ does not this suit thy Notion who speaks not IN Christ nor IN his knowledge who never wast Baptized into Christ thou hast not received the Spirit of the Son 't is a Mystery hid from all such a●ry Notionists who hast signified to us that All those places where we Read of Jesus Christ by name APPEARING are to be understood that either they saw him the Heavens being opened as 't is said of Stephen ●r his was in extacy Antid p. 4. And thou hast explained how Stephen saw the Heavens opened and the Son of Man standing on the Right Hand of God that it was with his Carnal Eyes his Sight being strengthned in a wonderful way Antidote pag. 4. 12. ☞ And what is that other way of seeing Jesus Christ in his appear●ng It is in Extacy What 's that It is as when one is in a Trance or Swoon when one so forgetteth himself that he is not in the exercise of his Reason or Understanding Thou mayest preach and pray long enough before thou wilt be in any such Extacy or Trance or see the Heavens opened and Christ's Appearing with thy Carnal Eyes But were the believing Gentiles waiting and looking for the Son of God from Heaven the glorious Appearing of the Great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ 1 Thes 1. 10. Titus 2. 13. in Expectation either to see him with their Carnal Eyes the visible Heavens being opened or to see him only in some Extacy Trance or Swoon If so then they were not to see Jesus Christ while in their right Wits or Understandings or in the exercise of their Gifts Strange Doctrine Yet we grant that great Visions and Raptures have been in Extacies A Man in Christ caught up into the Third Heaven whether in the Body or out of the Body I know not said he Peter at Prayer fell into a Trance and saw Heaven opened Act. 10. 10 11. But this hinders not the Saints Spiritual Sight and Sense of Christ in their daily Enjoyment of him and living in him But Stephen being full of the Holy Ghost saw the Glory of God and Jesus standing on his Right Hand and said Behold I see the Heavens opened c. Could he with his Carnal Eyes see all this viz. the Glory of God his Right Hand and Jesus standing at it And were the Heavens outwardly opened What mean Conceits hast thou of God and Christ who also tellest of Stephen's seeing Christ in Heaven with his Bodily Eye it being strengthned by the Lord Anim. p. 14. And did he see the Glory of God and his Right Hand with his Bodily Eye also Thou sayest Thou wouldest not be guilty of any Carnal Thoughts of God or his Glory but yet darest not but believe the Scriptures of Truth in these Matters although thou shouldst not satisfie thy Reason And addest I do believe the Deity it self cannot be seen no Mortal Eye can approach that Invisibility p. 16. And then where do the Scriptures say that Stephen saw the Glory of God with his Bodily or Carnal Eyes The Scripture in the same place as plainly saith That he saw the Glory of God as that he saw the Heavens opened and Jesus standing on the Right Hand of God And thou hast granted No Mortal Eye can approach the Invisibility of the Deity it self See how thou art shaken in thy Work about thy saying Christ passed into the invisible Heavens thou now variest it to unseen as many Stars are invisible yet capable of being seen by any Teliscope or Prospective-Glasses p. 14. So then by Invisible most supream Heaven that 's far above all Heavens i. e. all Heavenly Powers all Angelical Nature and Perfection He is above them all Antid p. 8. we are to understand thou meanest an Vnseen yet Visible Heaven above all Heavenly Powers all Angelical Nature c. that may be seen by the Carnal Eye when eminently strengthned as thou thinkest Stephen's was What then is this Angelical Nature and those Heavenly Powers which this invisible unseen visible Heaven is so far above Thou comest off but poorly in this how poor and Vnbelieving Creatures soever thou countest us p. 15. Thou art high and rich in thy own Conceit but is it not with other mens Notions intermixt with thy own Conceits confused and carnal Fancies In the 13th page of our Testimony we required thee To shew us that Book and Page of ours where ever from these Scriptures Ephes 4. 10. Mat. 28. 20. or 1 Cor. 15. 50. the Quakers thus argued viz. Therefore Christ is not in Heaven in his Manhood how then can he be in Heaven But instead of producing us Book and Page or Dispute for these Words or Inferences thou proceedest in thy Forgery to abuse us still charging thy own Objections with the same Inferences of thy own forging upon us with thy Ergo He is not in Heaven c. p. 13. Oh Forger and Perverter And for thy Belief of Christ's Manhood and Nature being of an Earthly Substance Anim. p. 7. A Humane Natural Body p. 10. having the same Matter Finiteness ☞ Shape Form Figure it had on Earth p. 11 17. and that Christ's Soul or Spirit an essential Part of his manhood Antid p. 3. is a Finite Creature Animad p. 10. How shall we reconcile these words with thy Confession viz. We say the WORD was made Flesh Joh. 1. 14. and in that Flesh ascended into Heaven p. 12. We hope thou wilt not say That WORD was made an Earthly Substance a Humane Natural Body nor yet a Finite Creature for all things were made by that Word Joh. 1. 3. And this was the Son of God by whom God made the Worlds Hebr. 1. 2. Thou hadst need use some nice Distinction here by some Figure or Communication of Properties to wind thy self off from Socinianism and Confusion though thou exclaimest highly against the Socinians and it s a question whether that will do thy Cure For what Preeminence hast thou allowed Christ if both his Essential Parts be but such finite Creatures i. e. His Body in Heaven but a Humane Natural Body of an Earthly Substance of the same Matter and Form it had on Earth and his