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f_z you_o object_n but_o consent_v with_o irenaeus_n before_o and_o with_o other_o after_o he_o as_o shall_v appear_v 188._o 〈◊〉_d innius_n 〈◊〉_d on_o this_o chap._n 188._o who_o be_v no_o montanist_n notwithstanding_o it_o be_v true_a that_o somewhere_o he_o take_v inferos_fw-la pro_fw-la locali_fw-la determinatione_fw-la as_o he_o speak_v for_o the_o peculiar_a and_o determinat_fw-la place_n of_o the_o wicked_a decease_a that_o be_v hell_n strict_o and_o proper_o 4._o 〈◊〉_d 4._o thus_o he_o do_v in_o that_o g_o against_o martion_n with_o you_o cite_v pag._n 201._o also_o in_o that_o h_o objection_n of_o certain_a haeretike_n who_o he_o confute_v 55._o 〈◊〉_d anima_fw-la 55._o not_o the_o true_a christian_n as_o i_o you_o k_n misconceive_v they_o argue_v thus_o as_o you_o do_v in_o hoc_fw-la christus_fw-la jnfiros_fw-la adiit_fw-la ne_fw-la nos_fw-la adiremus_fw-la edition_n 188._o 〈◊〉_d title_n of_o â—ooke_n in_o â—â—â—elius_a &_o â—â—â—s_a edition_n christ_n therefore_o go_v to_o 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soul_n though_o bless_v not_o as_o it_o be_v in_o blessedness_n but_o as_o it_o remain_v hold_v from_o the_o body_n by_o the_o force_n of_o death_n and_o so_o all_o these_o last_o name_v be_v very_o excellent_a place_n to_o prove_v which_o afterward_o i_o shall_v further_o show_v that_o all_o those_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n he_o die_v be_v bury_v and_o descend_v to_o hades_n do_v indeed_o signify_v but_o one_o thing_n in_o effect_n that_o he_o be_v a_o true_a man_n see_v thus_o it_o befall_v he_o as_o it_o do_v all_o other_o man_n by_o the_o law_n of_o our_o nature_n that_o be_v to_o die_v and_o therefore_o that_o it_o be_v clean_o leave_v out_o in_o all_o ancient_a creed_n where_o both_o those_o other_o clause_n be_v specify_v as_o be_v no_o divers_a point_n in_o effect_n from_o dead_a and_o bury_v which_o creed_n nevertheless_o be_v worthy_o deem_v to_o be_v absolute_a and_o perfect_a touch_v christ_n work_n of_o redemption_n which_o he_o have_v wrought_v for_o us._n since_o perhaps_o when_o it_o come_v into_o the_o common_a creed_n they_o signify_v hereby_o christ_n go_v to_o limbus_n which_o opinion_n indeed_o man_n general_o incline_v unto_o though_o erroneous_o for_o many_o year_n yet_o that_o the_o ancient_n put_v this_o descend_v to_o hade_n meaning_n limbus_n or_o howsoever_o into_o the_o vulgar_a creed_n distinct_o from_o both_o the_o other_o foresay_a clause_n i_o believe_v not_o the_o contrary_n be_v prove_v afterwards_o as_o anon_o we_o shall_v see_v but_o to_o proceed_v here_o 413.414_o â—â—rys_n hom._n civet_n &_o the_o 〈◊〉_d bol_n tom._n in_o 1._o cor._n hom._n 40._o â—â—â—asil_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 48._o â—â—â—mbr_n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d mort_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 10._o â—â—â—rom_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 1â—_n 14_o mcguffin_n in_o â—â—â—bol_n 〈◊〉_d 413.414_o c_o chrysostom_n and_o d_o basill_n likewise_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o greek_n may_v be_v note_v how_o they_o yield_v hades_n to_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o just_a man_n decease_v remain_v in_o joy_n also_o ambrose_n
for_o sin_n in_o such_o manner_n as_o he_o do_v on_o the_o reprobat_fw-la though_o not_o in_o such_o measure_n and_o that_o such_o likewise_o be_v christ_n suffering_n but_o then_o i_o deny_v that_o therein_o you_o have_v the_o truth_n or_o have_v right_o express_v the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n or_o of_o his_o saint_n because_o the_o suffering_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v proper_o not_o punishment_n for_o sin_n nor_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath_n proper_o but_o be_v indeed_o fatherly_a &_o profitable_a chastisement_n purposely_o inflict_v by_o god_n for_o their_o good_a as_o before_o be_v say_v but_o christ_n be_v altogether_o of_o another_o nature_n and_o condition_n they_o be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o proper_a punishment_n price_n satisfaction_n and_o ransom_n for_o sin_n as_o have_v be_v also_o note_v before_o &_o after_o shall_v be_v further_o show_v if_o you_o understand_v christ_n suffering_n god_n wrath_n to_o be_v such_o as_o the_o godly_a feel_v viz_n improper_o and_o large_o as_o the_o scripture_n 13â—_n scripture_n in_o your_o 13â—_n there_o do_v mean_a and_o not_o as_o the_o very_a price_n and_o punishment_n for_o sin_n but_o only_o as_o chastisement_n then_o that_o be_v likewise_o manefest_o untrue_a also_o then_o again_o for_o your_o word_n you_o be_v ambiguous_a and_o deceitful_a in_o this_o issue_n which_o kind_n of_o vanity_n you_o common_o use_v in_o all_o other_o your_o handle_n of_o controversy_n since_o you_o leave_v write_v against_o the_o papist_n as_o who_o so_o look_v shall_v see_v for_o we_o affirm_v that_o christ_n feel_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n do_v mean_v it_o proper_o as_o it_o inflict_v proper_o the_o punishment_n and_o wage_n of_o sin_n wrath._n your_o equâ—cation_n in_o term_n gâ—â—_n wrath._n and_o you_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o suffer_v god_n wrath_n as_o the_o saint_n and_o godly_a man_n do_v suffer_v it_o that_o be_v altogether_o unproper_o be_v sometime_o so_o call_v for_o a_o certain_a seem_n that_o it_o have_v to_o be_v so_o as_o you_o acknowledge_v in_o the_o sense_n of_o flesh_n and_o blood_n then_o what_o be_v this_o to_o our_o purpose_n what_o ell_n do_v you_o work_v herein_o but_o deceit_n &_o mistake_v to_o the_o reader_n through_o the_o ambiguity_n of_o this_o word_n the_o wrath_n of_o god_n which_o palpable_a fallacy_n of_o you_o be_v so_o plain_a that_o i_o need_v not_o stand_v to_o open_v it_o any_o further_o and_o yet_o i_o assure_v myself_o that_o this_o be_v the_o very_a ground_n and_o refuge_n of_o the_o error_n in_o this_o question_n which_o if_o a_o man_n mark_v well_o &_o distinguish_v as_o he_o ought_v and_o may_v easy_o do_v he_o shall_v quick_o drive_v you_o either_o to_o shift_v into_o this_o corner_n equiocation_n your_o equiocation_n or_o else_o to_o deny_v much_o of_o that_o which_o you_o affirm_v in_o your_o book_n elsewhere_o therefore_o let_v the_o wise_a consider_v it_o nevertheless_o if_o happy_o you_o mean_v otherwise_o that_o be_v 105_o pas_n you_o seem_v 〈◊〉_d meâ—â—â—_n paâ—â—â—01_n 105_o that_o christ_n very_a *_o outward_a suffering_n and_o bodily_a death_n be_v in_o a_o peculiar_a sort_n the_o effect_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n thus_o true_o punish_v our_o sin_n on_o he_o then_o in_o effect_n you_o come_v to_o we_o again_o of_o you_o will_v stick_v but_o to_o this_o for_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n to_o make_v christ_n flesh_n subject_a to_o god_n curse_v for_o sin_n and_o not_o his_o mind_n and_o soul_n likewise_o also_o we_o must_v note_v that_o such_o outward_a bodily_a suffering_n be_v indeed_o punishment_n and_o not_o chastisement_n for_o sin_n that_o be_v proper_a effect_n of_o god_n very_a wrath_n and_o justice_n come_v to_o take_v vengeance_n for_o sin_n they_o can_v be_v mere_a bodily_a suffering_n nor_o mere_o feel_v by_o sympathy_n in_o the_o soul_n which_o be_v the_o proper_a effect_n of_o the_o outward_a sensitive_a faculty_n only_o but_o they_o must_v of_o necessity_n be_v conceive_v discern_v &_o apply_v in_o the_o inward_a feel_n of_o the_o mind_n of_o christ_n body_n use_v 〈◊〉_d deny_v at_o â—â—â—nce_n that_o man_n â—â—â—ules_n have_v â—â—â—ny_a sense_n in_o yeâ—â—he_a â—inde_n beâ—â—â—des_fw-mi the_o comâ—â—â—â—_n sense_n deâ—â—nding_v on_o â—â—â—e_a body_n and_o will_v make_v a_o singular_a and_o secret_a impression_n of_o sorrow_n in_o the_o soul_n far_o above_o all_o mere_a bodily_a grief_n beyond_o all_o measure_n and_o proportion_n of_o thing_n in_o ordinary_a experience_n &_o so_o exceed_o differ_v from_o all_o other_o suffering_n in_o this_o life_n which_o therefore_o may_v just_o be_v term_v the_o proper_a and_o immediate_a suffering_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o this_o sense_n the_o lord_n doubtless_o reveal_v upon_o man_n sometime_o more_o sometime_o less_o in_o this_o life_n even_o as_o it_o please_v he_o which_o also_o befall_v unto_o christ_n again_o 257._o pag._n 257._o if_o the_o agony_n and_o sorrow_n which_o you_o grant_v christ_n suffer_v simple_o in_o his_o mind_n be_v mean_v by_o you_o to_o have_v be_v as_o it_o be_v a_o foretaste_n of_o such_o suffering_n and_o a_o fear_n or_o dread_n of_o they_o as_o very_o just_o it_o may_v be_v consider_v the_o weak_a disability_n of_o a_o creature_n to_o stand_v up_o against_o the_o creator_n propathia_n propathia_n namely_o now_o shoot_v or_o prepare_v to_o shoot_v present_o the_o sharp_a arrow_n of_o his_o wrath_n upon_o he_o for_o our_o sin_n in_o which_o case_n and_o condition_n christ_n now_o stand_v for_o that_o while_n then_o i_o say_v also_o i_o see_v in_o effect_n no_o difference_n between_o we_o than_o again_o this_o question_n be_v as_o it_o be_v at_o a_o end_n for_o doubtless_o he_o suffer_v at_o one_o time_n or_o other_o the_o same_o thing_n which_o he_o so_o fear_v yea_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o fear_v can_v be_v but_o a_o mighty_a suffering_n thereof_o neither_o do_v we_o contend_v to_o express_v what_o just_a measure_n of_o god_n wrath_n nor_o precise_o in_o what_o manner_n it_o be_v reveal_v and_o execute_v on_o christ_n only_o we_o know_v that_o whatsoever_o it_o be_v god_n very_a wrath_n and_o proper_a vengeance_n for_o sin_n though_o outward_o execute_v on_o the_o body_n yet_o it_o can_v not_o but_o sink_v in_o deep_a even_o into_o the_o depth_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o be_v discern_v by_o christ_n and_o conceive_v to_o be_v such_o and_o so_o sustain_v as_o proceed_v from_o god_n and_o so_o wound_v the_o soul_n proper_o yea_o chief_o though_o the_o anguish_n thereof_o bruise_v his_o body_n joint_o also_o again_o whatsoever_o you_o will_v call_v it_o all_o or_o oâ—â—_n or_o such_o 〈◊〉_d as_o waâ—_n nothing_o whole_a 〈◊〉_d sinful_a 〈◊〉_d rend_v oâ—â—_n part_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n as_o it_o proceed_v from_o he_o be_v incomprehensible_a unspeakable_a infinite_a and_o untolerable_a to_o any_o creature_n &_o therefore_o so_o it_o be_v unto_o the_o very_a manhood_n of_o christ_n namely_o when_o the_o godhead_n for_o a_o season_n conceal_v itself_o of_o 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cunning_a and_o strength_n you_o have_v for_o undoubted_o it_o be_v and_o so_o will_v appear_v by_o the_o word_n to_o be_v a_o manefe_a truth_n and_o therefore_o 5â—_n therefore_o act._n 5â—_n will_v prevail_v beside_o that_o it_o be_v express_o the_o doctrine_n teach_v and_o establish_v by_o authority_n in_o england_n as_o hereafter_o god_n willing_a i_o shall_v plain_o show_v notwithstanding_o all_o your_o strange_a contradict_v &_o traduce_v thereof_o last_o whether_o i_o do_v set_v down_o this_o very_a state_n of_o the_o quaestion_n in_o full_a effect_n in_o my_o former_a treatise_n or_o whether_o i_o change_v it_o though_o indeed_o i_o grant_v i_o be_v there_o much_o short_a than_o i_o be_o here_o i_o pray_v you_o look_v &_o consider_v again_o in_o that_o my_o and_z my_o pag._n 5_o 33._o and_z first_o book_n this_o be_v well_o consider_v and_o mark_v will_v
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of_o the_o sustain_v and_o bear_v upon_o himself_o of_o our_o sin_n and_o not_o the_o body_n of_o the_o holocaust_n but_o the_o utter_a consume_n by_o fire_n of_o the_o whole_a signify_v the_o suffering_n of_o whole_a christ_n last_o the_o bread_n may_v signify_v the_o whole_a christ_n who_o be_v the_o entire_a and_o perfect_a bread_n of_o life_n but_o the_o break_v thereof_o into_o piece_n represent_v more_o lively_a the_o break_n &_o crush_a in_o piece_n as_o it_o be_v of_o the_o soul_n rather_o they_o of_o the_o body_n which_o be_v pierce_v through_o but_o be_v not_o in_o case_n of_o be_v break_v in_o piece_n so_o likely_a as_o the_o soul_n be_v yet_o you_o will_v say_v the_o haul_v may_v signify_v that_o whole_a christ_n suffer_v but_o some_o bodily_a affliction_n the_o soul_n feel_v the_o grief_n &_o pain_n of_o the_o body_n for_o how_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o the_o proper_a and_o immediate_a suffering_n of_o christ_n soul_n may_v be_v signify_v by_o the_o holocaust_n sure_o according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o the_o holocaust_n so_o whole_a christ_n &_o then_o his_o very_a soul_n chief_o be_v as_o it_o be_v chop_v or_o break_v into_o piece_n and_o as_o it_o be_v quite_o consume_v and_o swallow_v up_o in_o his_o fiery_a sorrow_n only_o the_o assistance_n of_o his_o godhead_n sustain_v his_o soul_n and_o withal_o his_o body_n or_o else_o he_o can_v not_o have_v bear_v it_o â—8_o â—reat_a 1._o â—ag_n â—8_o as_o a_o i_o note_v m._n whitaker_n to_o have_v true_o teach_v this_o can_v not_o be_v but_o the_o soul_n peculiar_a suffer_v of_o god_n very_a wrath_n far_o beyond_o all_o bodily_a suffering_n and_o yet_o not_o those_o pain_n of_o hell_n etc._n â—ag_n 8._o etc._n etc._n as_o b_o you_o gross_o utter_v it_o your_o other_o sense_n that_o you_o give_v hereof_o the_o 1._o hinder_v not_o i_o 237._o â—ag_n 237._o that_o be_v c_o the_o acceptation_n of_o christ_n death_n the_o 2._o that_o be_v christ_n flesh_n incorruption_n after_o death_n be_v very_o hard_a and_o far_o fetch_v and_o sacrifice_n have_v their_o respect_n to_o christ_n death_n not_o to_o any_o thing_n further_o or_o afterward_o as_o for_o another_o sense_n out_o of_o austin_n that_o it_o shall_v signify_v our_o perfection_n and_o burn_a charity_n it_o can_v be_v true_a for_o the_o holocaust-sacrifice_n out_o of_o question_n primary_o signify_v the_o person_n of_o christ_n not_o we_o see_v it_o be_v untrue_a that_o any_o man_n beside_o christ_n alone_o be_v or_o can_v be_v perfect_a in_o this_o life_n that_o he_o shall_v be_v whole_o consume_v with_o heavenly_a love_n according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o the_o consume_n of_o the_o holocaust_n also_o you_o both_o here_o do_v seem_v double_a understand_v by_o the_o holocaust_n both_o incorruption_n after_o death_n &_o a_o perfect_a
last_o day_n and_o hence_o also_o it_o be_v that_o you_o say_v god_n justice_n punish_v the_o soul_n only_o by_o the_o body_n that_o be_v not_o till_o the_o resurrection_n this_o only_o the_o effect_n of_o you_o speech_n contain_v plain_o and_o full_o yea_o in_o truth_n thus_o you_o must_v needs_o affirm_v and_o hold_v you_o can_v not_o avoid_v it_o if_o you_o will_v hold_v vour_z main_a question_n only_o except_o you_o deny_v that_o christ_n have_v a_o humane_a soul_n perfect_a in_o all_o the_o power_n and_o faculty_n thereof_o like_o we_o or_o else_o that_o god_n do_v not_o proper_o punish_v christ_n for_o our_o sin_n of_o necessity_n you_o must_v fall_v into_o one_o of_o these_o dangerous_a evil_n for_o aught_o that_o i_o yet_o see_v wherefore_o this_o point_n be_v not_o â—_o not_o pag_n â—_o so_o easy_a nor_o so_o evident_a to_o the_o simple_a as_o you_o pretend_v and_o i_o think_v you_o have_v need_n of_o better_a reason_n then_o hitherto_o i_o see_v any_o you_o have_v before_o the_o godly_a and_o learned_a will_v believe_v you_o the_o rather_o for_o that_o in_o deed_n here_o you_o commit_v further_o 2._o grievous_a fault_n 1._o tertullian_n your_o own_o author_n &_o the_o principal_a ground_n which_o you_o have_v for_o your_o opinion_n here_o be_v wonderful_o ill_o use_v 2._o you_o be_v strange_o contrary_a to_o yourself_o in_o your_o very_a wind_a up_o of_o the_o matter_n as_o for_o tertullian_n he_o resolve_v direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n which_o &c_n which_o de_fw-fr râ—â—â—_n carn_v câ—â—â—_n animas_fw-la 〈◊〉_d torquer_v 〈◊〉_d rique_fw-la peâ—â—â—â—â—ros_fw-la &c_n &c_n you_o cite_v from_o he_o say_v he_o the_o example_n of_o lazarus_n in_o the_o gospel_n prove_v that_o man_n soul_n though_o alone_o and_o without_o their_o body_n be_v punish_v and_o comfort_v in_o the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a the_o soul_n shall_v lack_v the_o reunit_n of_o the_o flesh_n with_o it_o not_o for_o that_o it_o can_v not_o feel_v any_o thing_n without_o the_o flesh_n but_o for_o that_o it_o must_v needs_o hereafter_o feel_v also_o with_o the_o flesh_n for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o suffice_v by_o itself_o to_o do_v somewhat_o so_o much_o or_o so_o far_o also_o it_o suffice_v to_o suffer_v it_o suffice_v indeed_o to_o do_v less_o by_o itself_o for_o it_o be_v able_a of_o itself_o only_o to_o think_v to_o will_v to_o desire_v to_o dispose_v but_o to_o accomplish_v it_o look_v for_o the_o use_n of_o the_o body_n so_o therefore_o it_o also_o look_v for_o the_o society_n of_o the_o body_n that_o by_o it_o the_o soul_n may_v aswell_o suffer_v absolute_o as_o without_o it_o she_o can_v not_o do_v thing_n complete_o and_o therefore_o for_o what_o action_n it_o suffice_v by_o itself_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o same_o it_o receave_v now_o that_o be_v of_o the_o desire_n of_o the_o thought_n of_o the_o will_n that_o it_o have_v thus_o tertullian_n direct_o answer_v to_o that_o â—_o that_o pag._n â—_o conclusion_n and_o 2â—â—_n and_o pag._n 2â—â—_n reason_n which_o you_o gather_v out_o of_o he_o prove_v contrary_a to_o the_o same_o that_o the_o soul_n now_o without_o the_o flesh_n receave_v judgement_n for_o such_o action_n as_o of_o itself_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o do_v and_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o do_v certain_a action_n of_o itself_o as_o to_o think_v to_o will_v to_o desire_v to_o order_n and_o dispose_v thing_n but_o to_o accomplish_v it_o be_v not_o able_a namely_o outward_a action_n the_o judgement_n of_o which_o action_n indeed_o the_o soul_n shall_v tarry_v for_o till_o the_o reunit_n again_o of_o the_o flesh_n therewith_o it_o seem_v that_o tertullian_n cite_v before_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o lâ—â—_n the_o such_o a_o fore_n not_o 〈◊〉_d pope_n lâ—â—_n heretâ—kes_n hold_v that_o the_o soul_n sleep_v till_o the_o last_o judgement_n and_o receive_v no_o reward_n at_o all_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n for_o want_v of_o the_o society_n of_o their_o flesh_n which_o till_o then_o lie_v rot_v in_o the_o grave_a but_o here_o tertullian_n answer_v and_o renounce_v all_o this_o same_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—s_o afterwards_o &_o the_o â—nhapilies_n 〈◊〉_d now_o 〈◊〉_d and_o so_o those_o be_v the_o heretic_n word_n against_o tertullian_n which_o you_o allege_v out_o of_o he_o in_o steed_n of_o catholic_a which_o deal_v what_o it_o be_v i_o leave_v to_o be_v consider_v next_o your_o own_o contradictory_n deal_v in_o this_o place_n be_v also_o not_o to_o be_v forget_v for_o yourself_o shut_v up_o with_o a_o excellent_a reason_n against_o yourself_o almost_o the_o same_o that_o i_o observe_v present_o before_o in_o tertullian_n against_o your_o collection_n thus_o you_o say_v 257._o say_v pag._n 257._o do_v i_o deny_v then_o that_o the_o soul_n have_v any_o suffering_n in_o this_o life_n and_o the_o next_o which_o come_v not_o by_o the_o body_n by_o no_o mean_n the_o soul_n have_v some_o proper_a punishment_n in_o this_o life_n as_o sorrow_n and_o fear_n when_o the_o body_n have_v no_o hurt_n from_o which_o christ_n be_v not_o free_a as_o appeareth_z by_o his_o agony_n and_o so_o in_o the_o next_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o wicked_a have_v grief_n &_o remorse_n beside_o the_o pain_n of_o fire_n etc._n etc._n yes_o sure_o i_o suppose_v you_o deny_v before_o the_o soul_n punishment_n without_o the_o body_n but_o now_o you_o seem_v to_o grant_v it_o and_o see_v you_o grant_v also_o that_o 25â—_n that_o pag._n 25â—_n nothing_o be_v more_o proportionable_a to_o god_n justice_n they_o to_o retain_v the_o same_o order_n in_o punish_v which_o they_o keep_v in_o offend_v therefore_o it_o follow_v by_o your_o own_o word_n that_o the_o wicked_a sometime_o sin_v mere_o in_o and_o by_o their_o soul_n and_o not_o only_o together_o with_o and_o by_o their_o body_n see_v they_o be_v punish_v simple_o in_o and_o by_o their_o soul_n and_o not_o only_o with_o and_o by_o their_o body_n also_o how_o sound_a this_o be_v i_o wot_v not_o 257._o not_o pag._n 257._o where_o you_o yield_v some_o punishment_n now_o to_o the_o damn_a how_o beit_n none_o other_o real_a and_o positive_a punishment_n but_o remorse_n and_o remembrance_n of_o sin_n only_o as_o it_o seem_v again_o in_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o free_a from_o some_o proper_a punishment_n to_o the_o soul_n as_o sorrow_n and_o fear_n in_o his_o agony_n if_o you_o mean_v as_o you_o speak_v that_o these_o be_v proper_a punishment_n inflict_v on_o he_o by_o god_n very_a wrath_n and_o not_o to_o be_v only_o his_o holy_a affection_n devotion_n to_o god_n and_o compassion_n to_o man_n which_o yet_o 18._o yet_o â—esâ—oâ—e_a â—â—g_n 18._o i_o fear_v be_v your_o meaning_n than_o it_o follow_v evident_o from_o your_o own_o word_n that_o christ_n suffer_v proper_a punishment_n in_o his_o soul_n from_o the_o very_a wrath_n of_o god_n more_o than_o the_o bodily_a suffering_n only_o on_o by_o sympathy_n in_o the_o soul_n which_o in_o a_o word_n be_v the_o grant_v of_o our_o whole_a question_n all_o the_o rest_n that_o you_o add_v out_o of_o the_o father_n touch_v hell_n and_o hell_n pain_n be_v to_o no_o purpose_n if_o 258.259_o if_o 〈◊〉_d 258.259_o you_o cite_v they_o to_o prove_v that_o christ_n have_v no_o natural_a fear_n of_o death_n and_o hell_n you_o 22â—_n you_o â—â—g_v 22â—_n gainsay_v that_o yourself_o further_a than_o we_o do_v or_o then_o the_o truth_n be_v then_o pag._n then_o pag._n you_o come_v to_o my_o other_o reason_n which_o i_o call_v special_a not_o for_o more_o excellency_n in_o they_o then_o in_o the_o other_o except_o only_o that_o i_o take_v these_o to_o be_v not_o so_o general_n as_o the_o former_a but_o more_o near_o to_o touch_v our_o quaestion_n which_o you_o may_v perceive_v well_o enough_o to_o have_v be_v my_o meaning_n by_o the_o express_a opposition_n that_o 3._o that_o treat_n pag._n 3._o i_o make_v of_o general_n and_o special_a but_o it_o appear_v you_o have_v rather_o take_v my_o word_n so_o as_o that_o you_o may_v make_v they_o to_o serve_v your_o unseemly_a jest_n and_o better_a inveigh_v humour_n which_o yet_o in_o the_o end_n will_v help_v your_o cause_n but_o little_a against_o b_o my_o 1._o reason_n out_o of_o i_o say_v that_o christ_n suffer_v those_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n for_o sin_n which_o else_o we_o shall_v have_v bear_v you_o except_v that_o i_o express_v not_o whether_o i_o mean_v all_o or_o some_o i_o answer_v all_z and_o every_o whit_n i_o mean_v so_o far_o as_o possibllity_n will_v admit_v and_o namely_o as_o touch_v the_o very_a sorrow_n and_o pain_n nothing_o be_v abate_v in_o the_o nature_n and_o vehemency_n of_o the_o pain_n which_o he_o suffer_v any_o more_o than_o be_v abate_v in_o the_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n of_o the_o damn_a this_o the_o very_a text_n here_o express_v with_o great_a unto_o great_a which_o faint_a intâ—tations_n 〈◊〉_d 261._o
same_o he_o be_v crucify_v touch_v his_o infirmity_n but_o live_v by_o the_o power_n of_o god_n his_o infirmity_n the_o text_n here_o name_v metonimical_o understand_v in_o christ_n that_o in_o which_o his_o infirmity_n be_v now_o his_o soul_n have_v infirmity_n of_o suffer_v in_o it_o as_o well_o as_o his_o body_n therefore_o his_o soul_n also_o be_v understand_v here_o that_o it_o be_v crucify_a and_o dye_v that_o be_v according_a to_o the_o condition_n thereof_o as_o likewise_o his_o body_n according_a to_o the_o condition_n thereof_o and_o thus_o that_o which_o paul_n call_v infirmity_n peter_n call_v flesh_n and_o that_o which_o paul_n call_v the_o power_n of_o god_n peter_n call_v the_o spirit_n that_o be_v his_o deity_n be_v set_v opposit_o in_o both_o these_o place_n to_o his_o whole_a humanity_n even_o to_o body_n and_o soul_n 4.13_o aug._n the_o 4.13_o to_o which_o purpose_n that_o place_n also_o to_o the_o rom._n the_o rom._n roman_n do_v serve_v where_o the_o like_a opposition_n be_v find_v as_o i_o have_v show_v between_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n in_o christ_n that_o be_v his_o manhood_n and_o godhead_n other_o reason_n also_o 1â—_n also_o treat_v 137_o 1â—_n i_o have_v note_v serve_v well_o hereunto_o as_o the_o 4_o 5_o and_o 6._o but_o i_o omit_v to_o rehearse_v they_o again_o for_o it_o seem_v yourself_o agree_v with_o we_o in_o they_o 324._o â—â—g_v 324._o hold_v a_o express_o that_o the_o spirit_n here_o in_o peter_n be_v the_o deity_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o augustine_n judgement_n now_o this_o be_v grant_v and_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o spirit_n here_o signify_v christ_n godhead_n how_o can_v it_o be_v likely_a but_o that_o the_o other_o opposite_a part_n the_o flesh_n must_v needs_o import_v his_o whole_a and_o entire_a manhood_n very_o thus_o it_o seem_v most_o plain_a that_o peter_n here_o distribute_v the_o whole_a and_o absolute_a person_n both_o god_n and_o man_n into_o these_o nature_n the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n wherefore_o i_o can_v not_o think_v but_o that_o the_o apostle_n here_o understand_v by_o flesh_n the_o whole_a and_o entire_a manhood_n of_o christ_n even_o his_o soul_n and_o his_o body_n now_o this_o be_v so_o than_o it_o follow_v by_o the_o text_n that_o christ_n in_o his_o passion_n be_v do_v to_o death_n both_o in_o soul_n 320._o pag._n 320._o &_o body_n here_n you_o object_n that_o thus_o i_o make_v all_o the_o attribute_n of_o the_o body_n common_a to_o the_o soul_n nay_o forsooth_o that_o i_o do_v not_o nor_o yet_o this_o attribute_n of_o die_v understand_v in_o such_o sort_n and_o manner_n as_o the_o body_n proper_o die_v that_o be_v to_o become_v without_o life_n and_o sense_n i_o ascribe_v death_n to_o both_o but_o yet_o according_a to_o the_o divers_a condition_n and_o state_n of_o both_o 78._o â—reat_a 1._o pâ—g_v 78._o and_o thus_o you_o may_v understand_v my_o b_o meaning_n to_o be_v where_o i_o say_v it_o be_v absurd_a &_o false_a that_o christ_n be_v make_v 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again_o in_o his_o soul_n and_o restore_v from_o that_o bottomless_a gulf_n of_o sorrow_n to_o the_o lively_a feel_n of_o heavenly_a joy_n and_o glory_n which_o for_o a_o season_n he_o have_v no_o sense_n of_o at_o all_o howbeit_o though_o this_o sense_n be_v a_o true_a quicken_n in_o his_o soul_n yet_o i_o deny_v that_o here_o in_o this_o place_n of_o peter_n it_o can_v be_v translate_v quicken_v in_o the_o spirit_n mean_v the_o soul_n because_o spirit_n here_o in_o this_o opposition_n be_v set_v indeed_o for_o the_o deity_n of_o christ_n â—â—sent_a â—â—â—d_v you_o with_o â—â—â—stin_a do_v â—â—sent_a *_o as_o before_o i_o have_v show_v thus_o the_o matter_n i_o hope_n be_v clear_a to_o reasonable_a man_n that_o christ_n soul_n even_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n phrase_n may_v be_v say_v in_o some_o sort_n to_o have_v taste_v and_o suffer_v death_n that_o be_v the_o extreme_a feeling_n of_o god_n wrath_n for_o sin_n and_o the_o most_o vehement_a pain_n of_o the_o damn_a though_o 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soul_n in_o he_o viz._n that_o he_o suffer_v it_o not_o ordinary_o after_o the_o manner_n of_o other_o man_n nor_o any_o way_n local_o hâ—_n have_v no_o necessary_a cause_n to_o speak_v of_o the_o 2._o sense_n thereof_o how_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v say_v to_o suffer_v death_n extraordinary_o for_o sin_n impute_v only_o neither_o do_v he_o speak_v against_o that_o in_o christ_n nay_o according_a to_o augustine_n own_o definition_n of_o the_o soul_n die_v it_o will_v easy_o appear_v that_o christ_n soul_n may_v be_v say_v to_o have_v suffer_v some_o kind_n of_o death_n 4._o de_fw-fr verh_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d ser_n â—0_n 〈◊〉_d trin._n 4._o say_v he_o a_o moritur_fw-la anima_fw-la si_fw-la recedit_fw-la deus_fw-la and_o b_o mors_fw-la est_fw-la spiritûs_fw-la deseri_fw-la à _fw-la
effect_n they_o be_v all_o one_o with_o thanatos_n death_n but_o that_o thanatos_n belong_v proper_o to_o body_n hades_n &_o sheol_n sometime_o to_o body_n sometime_o to_o soul_n of_o man_n indifferent_o yea_o sometime_o these_o 2._o be_v apply_v though_o more_o rare_o to_o other_o thing_n also_o which_o be_v in_o this_o visible_a world_n namely_o when_o they_o come_v to_o destruction_n and_o no_o be_v any_o more_o as_o anon_o we_o shall_v better_o understande_v now_o let_v we_o proceed_v and_o show_v further_o even_o by_o the_o scripture_n first_o that_o sheol_n and_o hades_n be_v as_o i_o say_v more_o than_o once_o use_v for_o the_o general_a condition_n of_o death_n wherein_o even_o just_a man_n soul_n be_v hold_v or_o the_o mansion_n of_o soul_n depart_v aswell_o good_a as_o bad_a then_o afterward_o the_o common_a consent_n of_o other_o will_v avail_v the_o more_o that_o 4â—_n that_o psalm_n 4â—_n psalm_n which_o intreat_v whole_o of_o death_n of_o the_o impossibility_n to_o 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may_v signify_v here_o the_o whole_a person_n of_o man_n beside_o as_o in_o these_o â—esaide_a psal_n â—_o 48._o &_o 49_o â—_o &_o 10_o 16._o all_o â—116_n 8._o &_o in_o â—â—y_a many_o â—aces_n of_o scripâ—â—e_n beside_o and_o so_o may_v c_o nephesh_v the_o soul_n also_o very_o well_o and_o then_o sheol_n and_o hades_n signify_v not_o peculiarly_a and_o distinct_o the_o grave_a which_o only_o be_v for_o the_o carcase_n but_o the_o condition_n of_o the_o whole_a man_n after_o he_o have_v no_o be_v in_o this_o world_n in_o which_o regard_n choose_v what_o sense_n you_o will_v either_o that_o nephesh_n and_o chai_fw-mi shall_v in_o all_o these_o place_n of_o the_o psalm_n before_o handle_v signify_v strict_o the_o soul_n as_o very_o fit_o it_o may_v or_o the_o whole_a person_n of_o man_n consist_v both_o of_o a_o soul_n and_o of_o a_o live_a body_n contrary_a to_o which_o estate_n sheol_n and_o hades_n be_v very_o often_o take_v 30.23_o g_o that_o be_v if_o it_o â—re_n not_o strict_o 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that_o god_n will_v hide_v he_o bisheol_n in_o this_o world_n of_o the_o decease_a 14.13_o â—ob_v 14.13_o &_o will_v give_v he_o term_v till_o his_o wrath_n be_v overpast_v in_o another_o place_n he_o comfort_v himself_o think_v quick_o to_o enjoy_v it_o say_v †_o if_o i_o have_v any_o hope_n sheol_n or_o hades_n 17.13_o â—ob_v 17.13_o the_o world_n of_o the_o decease_a shall_v be_v my_o habitation_n he_o join_v thereunto_o also_o particular_o the_o grave_n but_o as_o touch_v sheol_n see_v job_n speak_v of_o it_o as_o his_o continual_a habitation_n till_o the_o world_n end_n it_o can_v be_v mean_v only_o of_o the_o grave_a for_o his_o body_n which_o endure_v but_o a_o very_a short_a time_n neither_o have_v his_o flesh_n any_o be_v at_o all_o after_o it_o be_v turn_v to_o very_a earth_n and_o worm_n he_o speak_v here_o therefore_o also_o of_o his_o soul_n continue_v habitation_n or_o mansion_n in_o another_o world_n dy._n gen._n 37.35_o because_o they_o â—â—ch_a die_n their_o â—â—ons_n do_v fall_v â—â—une_o according_a to_o the_o latin_n â—â—tase_n cadere_fw-la â—â—idere_fw-la occunâ—â—_n to_o dy._n and_o in_o great_a reason_n this_o be_v that_o which_o jaacob_n mean_v when_o he_o say_v he_o will_v go_v down_o mourning_n to_o his_o son_n iâ—_n sheol_n that_o be_v he_o will_v mourn_v till_o he_o die_v for_o this_o he_o mean_v by_o *_o go_v down_o here_o speak_v of_o death_n and_o then_o he_o hope_v to_o enjoy_v the_o society_n of_o his_o dear_a son_n in_o soul_n for_o his_o body_n he_o think_v be_v devour_v and_o digest_v in_o the_o belly_n of_o wild_a beast_n therefore_o he_o will_v go_v to_o the_o soul_n of_o his_o son_n in_o sheol_n or_o else_o understand_v here_o the_o dissolution_n &_o passage_n of_o his_o whole_a person_n he_o may_v mean_v partly_o his_o go_v down_o to_o the_o grave_n as_o touch_v his_o body_n and_o yet_o also_o the_o enjoy_n of_o the_o society_n of_o his_o dear_a son_n in_o sheol_n which_o sure_o as_o i_o say_v can_v not_o be_v in_o body_n 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of_o suffer_a pain_n be_v not_o proper_a but_o common_a to_o we_o with_o beast_n namely_o that_o which_o be_v by_o sympathy_n &_o communion_n with_o and_o from_o the_o body_n for_o which_o cause_n also_o it_o be_v not_o immediate_a since_o it_o come_v not_o to_o the_o soul_n but_o by_o external_a bodily_a mean_n a_o three_o kind_n of_o painful_a suffer_v the_o soul_n have_v namely_o her_o vehement_a &_o strong_a affection_n be_v painful_a whether_o they_o be_v good_a or_o evil_n as_o zeal_n love_n compassion_n pity_n care_n etc._n etc._n neither_o be_v these_o immediate_o for_o sin_n whether_o punishment_n or_o correction_n but_o they_o come_v for_o and_o by_o other_o immediate_a cause_n 5._o â—â—tions_n no_o â—â—at_a â—or_a 〈◊〉_d punish_v 〈◊〉_d 5._o neither_o be_v they_o punishment_n or_o correction_n at_o all_o
be_v not_o against_o christ_n own_o person_n but_o against_o the_o sin_n which_o by_o his_o office_n in_o his_o own_o person_n he_o sustain_v the_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n whereof_o touch_v his_o very_a person_n 2._o their_o punishment_n be_v partly_o in_o this_o life_n and_o partly_o eternal_a in_o the_o life_n to_o come_v but_o christ_n be_v temporary_a and_o only_a in_o this_o life_n 3._o their_o sin_n be_v inherent_a not_o forgive_v and_o just_o punish_v they_o have_v all_o the_o property_n and_o concomitant_n of_o sin_n inherent_a never_o forgive_v but_o in_o wrap_v in_o eternal_a punishment_n as_o these_o desperation_n the_o sting_n of_o conscience_n induration_n rejection_n malediction_n dereliction_n etc._n etc._n but_o in_o christ_n where_o no_o sin_n be_v inhaerent_a nor_o eternal_o punish_v there_o can_v utter_o be_v none_o of_o these_o 4._o they_o be_v pumish_v here_o &_o chief_o in_o hell_n the_o proper_a place_n of_o the_o damn_a hereafter_o but_o christ_n suffer_v only_o here_o in_o this_o life_n last_o their_o torment_n though_o everlasting_a deserve_v nothing_o at_o god_n hand_n but_o christ_n though_o suffer_v but_o for_o a_o while_n deserve_v infinite_o favour_n and_o grace_n for_o they_o for_o who_o he_o suffer_v howbeit_o as_o i_o say_v the_o suffering_n of_o the_o damn_a be_v all_o one_o with_o christ_n same_o how_o the_o suffering_n of_o châ—â—â—â—_n and_o of_o thâ—â—â—_n damn_a 〈◊〉_d the_o same_o as_o touch_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o punishment_n and_o as_o touch_v the_o chief_a cause_n thereof_o first_o god_n himself_o be_v the_o proper_a and_o principal_a ordayner_n author_n and_o executor_n of_o his_o punishment_n god_n own_o hand_n do_v it_o to_o christ_n no_o less_o then_o to_o the_o damn_a sec_n christ_n have_v most_o horrible_a sin_n impute_v to_o he_o as_o the_o damn_a have_v also_o therefore_o he_o suffer_v for_o they_o from_o god_n hand_n even_o as_o the_o damn_a do_v namely_o in_o these_o point_n which_o be_v both_o possible_a and_o reasonable_a that_o be_v pain_n inflict_v immediate_o and_o proper_o in_o the_o soul_n and_o not_o only_o by_o outward_a mean_n in_o the_o body_n for_o it_o be_v most_o reasonable_a and_o possible_a that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n shall_v have_v our_o sin_n impute_v to_o it_o yea_o principal_o to_o it_o and_o not_o to_o the_o body_n only_o even_o as_o we_o commit_v sin_n in_o our_o whole_a manhood_n but_o yet_o principal_o in_o &_o by_o our_o soul_n which_o be_v true_a that_o christ_n reasonable_a soul_n have_v sin_n impute_v principal_o to_o it_o according_a to_o that_o of_o the_o prophet_n he_o make_v his_o soul_n sin_n 53.10_o isa_n 53.10_o therefore_o his_o soul_n principal_o &_o peculiar_o do_v suffer_v for_o it_o also_o his_o soul_n by_o nature_n be_v capable_a of_o suffer_v from_o god_n very_a hand_n &_o a_o occasion_n now_o serve_v thereunto_o because_o of_o all_o our_o sin_n whole_o impute_v to_o he_o last_o god_n himself_o stand_v now_o dispose_v to_o punish_v and_o revenge_v sin_n in_o he_o so_o far_o as_o he_o be_v capable_a thereof_o therefore_o his_o punishment_n for_o that_o sin_n be_v a_o true_a proper_a &_o full_a punishment_n as_o they_o be_v namely_o as_o touch_v mere_a pain_n and_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n justice_n and_o vengeance_n as_o well_o on_o his_o soul_n as_o on_o his_o body_n &_o thus_o for_o the_o time_n it_o be_v even_o like_a as_o the_o suffering_n of_o the_o damn_a be_v 53.134_o â—a_n 53.134_o for_o *_o continuance_n of_o time_n in_o pain_n be_v not_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o hell_n pain_n or_o of_o god_n wrath_n 341._o pag._n 341._o nor_o yet_o to_o be_v in_o hell_n local_o as_o you_o wrong_o imagine_v but_o mere_a circumstance_n there_o of_o only_o thus_o the_o very_a nature_n of_o punishment_n for_o sin_n be_v but_o the_o feel_n of_o extreme_a pain_n from_o god_n hand_n whether_o for_o a_o time_n or_o for_o ever_o whether_o local_o in_o hell_n or_o ell_n where_o that_o neither_o alter_v nor_o lessen_v the_o present_a pain_n which_o god_n own_o infinite_a wrathful_a power_n &_o justice_n can_v inflict_v for_o satisfaction_n where_o and_o how_o it_o please_v he_o these_o pain_n then_o to_o this_o end_n and_o in_o this_o very_a manner_n inflict_v christ_n feel_v indeed_o not_o be_v in_o the_o local_a hell_n yet_o those_o be_v as_o we_o see_v the_o self_n same_o pain_n for_o their_o nature_n which_o be_v in_o hell_n 247._o â—ag_n 247._o yea_o which_o be_v *_o sharp_a in_o hell_n and_o he_o discern_v and_o receive_v they_o proper_o yea_o only_o in_o his_o very_a soul_n as_o then_o be_v manefe_a when_o his_o body_n be_v so_o bruise_v with_o sorrow_n and_o suffering_n yet_o none_o at_o all_o then_o touch_v he_o without_o that_o there_o strain_a out_o from_o he_o much_o sweat_n of_o clot_a blood_n etc._n etc._n these_o thing_n be_v thus_o now_o let_v we_o see_v wherein_o you_o agree_v with_o we_o 248._o 〈◊〉_d 248._o and_o wherein_o you_o disagree_v we_o all_o agree_v in_o term_n that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o soul_n god_n wrath_n howbeit_o touch_v the_o sense_n we_o disagree_v in_o 2._o main_a point_n qâ—â—â—_n the_o iâ—â—â—_n the_o qâ—â—â—_n i_o affirm_v that_o christ_n suffer_v god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n you_o mean_v he_o suffer_v only_o such_o affliction_n as_o other_o godly_a man_n do_v suffer_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o cruel_a world_n for_o 1â—_n for_o pa._n 1â—_n you_o think_v all_o affliction_n whatsoever_o small_a or_o great_a &_o towards_o whosoever_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath._n but_o that_o be_v not_o so_o except_o in_o a_o most_o unproper_a speech_n to_o the_o godly_a their_o affliction_n both_o small_a and_o great_a be_v god_n fatherly_a and_o gracious_a chastisement_n and_o no_o effect_n of_o his_o proper_a wrath_n as_o shall_v appear_v further_o hereafter_o howbeit_o you_o must_v observe_v here_o my_o 3._o limitation_n which_o i_o set_v down_o in_o the_o beforâ—_n the_o beforâ—_n quaestion_a 1._o i_o mean_v he_o suffer_v only_o that_o proper_a wrath_n of_o god_n which_o be_v mere_o punishment_n for_o sin_n and_o no_o sin_n 2._o this_o also_o he_o suffer_v as_o touch_v the_o substance_n and_o nature_n of_o the_o pain_n not_o as_o touch_v the_o circumstance_n either_o of_o of_o place_n or_o continuance_n etc._n etc._n 3._o i_o mean_v he_o suffer_v not_o every_o particular_a punishment_n of_o sin_n nor_o that_o which_o every_o particular_a sinner_n meet_v with_o all_o but_o the_o general_n curse_v and_o punishment_n of_o god_n for_o sin_n namely_o that_o which_o belong_v in_o god_n justice_n to_o all_o man_n in_o common_a and_o generally_n who_o abide_v in_o sin_n now_o after_o these_o necessary_a limitation_n the_o main_a point_n wherein_o we_o further_o disagree_v be_v this_o i_o affirm_v that_o christ_n suffer_v all_o god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n for_o sin_n namely_o so_o describe_v and_o limit_v as_o be_v above_o say_v i_o say_v all_o that_o which_o the_o very_a damn_a do_v suffer_v christ_n thus_o do_v suffer_v for_o we_o and_o therefore_o even_o a_o proper_a and_o immediate_a sense_n in_o his_o soul_n of_o god_n proper_a &_o most_o painful_a wrath_n his_o infinite_a and_o untolerable_a burn_a wrath._n which_o what_o tongue_n be_v it_o that_o can_v express_v or_o heart_n conceive_v yet_o christ_n humane_a soul_n be_v apt_a and_o able_a to_o feel_v it_o though_o not_o to_o sustain_v it_o a_o just_a occasion_n in_o he_o be_v offer_v thereunto_o for_o than_o he_o stand_v forth_o as_o the_o only_a and_o absolute_a ransompayer_n of_o all_o our_o debt_n and_o god_n unpartial_a justice_n dispense_v not_o without_o necessity_n yea_o where_o he_o come_v to_o punish_v he_o lay_v it_o on_o find_v sin_n unsatisfied_a as_o he_o do_v inhaerent_a in_o the_o wicked_a and_o as_o he_o do_v impute_v in_o christ_n our_o surety_n till_o he_o have_v by_o â—â—_o by_o heb_fw-mi â—â—_o suffering_n accomplish_v &_o finish_v perfect_o his_o redemption_n for_o us._n hiâ—_n your_o aâ—â—_n on_o wâ—â—â—â—gain_o saâ—â—_n christ_n â—â—red_v iâ—â—â—_n only_a 〈◊〉_d from_o hiâ—_n but_o this_o be_v far_o great_a than_o as_o you_o hold_v that_o he_o suffer_v no_o more_o but_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n that_o be_v in_o his_o soul_n by_o &_o from_o his_o body_n this_o be_v your_o drift_n every_o where_o but_o i_o note_v these_o express_a place_n 16._o â—â—g_v 16._o *_o sin_n which_o shall_v have_v wrought_v in_o we_o a_o eternal_a destruction_n both_o of_o body_n and_o soul_n can_v not_o far_o prevail_v in_o he_o but_o to_o the_o wound_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o shed_v of_o his_o blood_n for_o the_o just_a &_o full_a satisfaction_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n even_o in_o the_o righteous_a and_o sincere_a judgement_n of_o god_n likewise_o your_o general_a title_n be_v the_o full_a redemtion_n of_o mankind_n
by_o the_o death_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n so_o you_o commend_v the_o force_n and_o fruit_n of_o his_o bodily_a death_n as_o most_o sufficient_a 88_o â—ag_n 84._o â—â—g_n 88_o and_o *_o the_o bodily_a death_n of_o christ_n pay_v the_o price_n of_o our_o redemption_n 335._o â—ag_n 335._o it_o remove_v all_o the_o impediment_n of_o our_o salvation_n the_o joint_a suffering_n of_o christ_n the_o soul_n feel_v what_o the_o body_n suffer_v be_v most_o avaylable_a for_o our_o salvation_n 336._o â—â—g_v 336._o †_o the_o violence_n be_v offer_v to_o the_o body_n the_o sense_n whereof_o reach_v unto_o the_o soul_n and_o these_o be_v the_o suffering_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o of_o death_n which_o the_o scripture_n attribute_v to_o the_o son_n of_o god_n for_o our_o salvation_n 58._o â—â—g_v 60._o 58._o there_o be_v no_o other_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n soul_n which_o can_v be_v neither_o bodily_a nor_o bloody_a *_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n both_o temporal_o and_o eternal_o punish_v the_o soul_n only_o by_o the_o body_n 255_o 〈◊〉_d 254._o 255_o nevertheless_o contrariwise_o you_o seem_v some_o where_o to_o yield_v whole_o so_o much_o as_o we_o affirm_v 17._o â—â—g_v 17._o as_o where_o you_o say_v the_o same_a part_n may_v indeed_o suffer_v in_o christ_n which_o sin_v in_o man_n i_o mean_v the_o soul_n if_o you_o mean_v as_o you_o seem_v and_o as_o you_o ought_v that_o as_o every_o part_n and_o faculty_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v in_o we_o sinful_a so_o in_o christ_n it_o suffer_v for_o our_o sin_n then_o in_o his_o soul_n he_o suffer_v for_o sin_n proper_o and_o immediate_o that_o be_v in_o his_o very_a mind_n from_o the_o immediate_a hand_n of_o god_n &_o not_o only_o from_o and_o by_o his_o body_n 4._o 〈◊〉_d 87._o 4._o again_o you_o allow_v in_o christ_n *_o all_o those_o affliction_n and_o passion_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o natural_o and_o necessary_o follow_v pain_n this_o all_o reach_v unto_o mo_z and_o more_o grievous_a pain_n then_o the_o mere_a bodily_a be_v it_o include_v the_o soul_n porper_n &_o immediate_a pain_n also_o 138._o 〈◊〉_d 138._o and_o yet_o plain_a smart_n pain_n and_o grief_n of_o body_n or_o mind_n be_v it_o never_o so_o great_a will_v commend_v his_o obedience_n and_o patience_n 286._o 〈◊〉_d 286._o and_o *_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n which_o proceed_v from_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n and_o be_v no_o sin_n that_o christ_n may_v and_o do_v bear_v yea_o he_o suffer_v death_n with_o all_o painful_a 87._o 〈◊〉_d 87._o but_o no_o sinful_a concomitant_n and_o consequent_n 76._o 〈◊〉_d 76._o and_o *_o nothing_o may_v befall_v the_o humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v unfitting_a for_o his_o divine_a whence_o we_o gather_v understand_v you_o in_o the_o best_a sense_n that_o whatsoever_o be_v fit_v for_o his_o divine_a nature_n to_o admit_v of_o in_o his_o humanity_n that_o his_o humane_a nature_n do_v feel_v consequent_o then_o he_o feel_v all_o the_o pain_n of_o the_o damn_a which_o be_v no_o sin_n neither_o indeed_o perpetual_a see_v his_o divine_a nature_n can_v admit_v this_o in_o his_o manhood_n aswell_o as_o any_o suffering_n at_o all_o for_o sin_n you_o will_v say_v if_o he_o feel_v not_o also_o desperation_n as_o the_o damn_a do_v than_o he_o feel_v not_o all_o the_o pain_n which_o the_o damn_a do_v feel_v for_o desperation_n augment_v their_o very_a pain_n i_o answer_v we_o say_v not_o that_o christ_n suffer_v simple_o all_o the_o pain_n of_o the_o damn_a that_o be_v he_o feel_v not_o such_o as_o be_v by_o their_o very_a nature_n sin_n aswell_o as_o pain_n as_o indeed_o desperation_n be_v but_o i_o say_v christ_n suffer_v none_o of_o those_o pain_n all_o other_o which_o be_v by_o their_o nature_n mere_a pain_n and_o only_o painful_a christ_n do_v suffer_v they_o as_o sharp_o for_o the_o time_n we_o doubt_v not_o as_o the_o very_a damn_a do_v so_o that_o if_o your_o l._n will_v stand_v to_o that_o which_o before_o we_o observe_v in_o you_o and_o not_o clip_v it_o not_o renounce_v it_o we_o 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those_o place_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o prophet_n do_v signify_v at_o all_o the_o pierce_a of_o his_o body_n i_o answer_v they_o may_v by_o a_o general_a and_o unproper_a speech_n as_o pierce_v may_v be_v a_o unproper_a kind_n of_o break_v for_o see_v the_o h._n ghost_n by_o those_o word_n intend_v to_o show_v the_o whole_a outward_a violence_n and_o destruction_n of_o his_o flesh_n also_o and_o not_o only_o the_o break_n &_o bruise_v of_o his_o soul_n therefore_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o herein_o so_o much_o may_v be_v signify_v yet_o in_o no_o wise_a not_o that_o alone_a nor_o by_o a_o proper_a signification_n as_o i_o have_v say_v now_o where_o you_o catch_v at_o a_o advantage_n in_o i_o as_o you_o think_v 14._o treat_v 1._o â—â—g_n 14._o in_o that_o i_o say_v b_o the_o caeremony_n of_o break_v the_o bread_n or_o that_o break_n to_o piece_n in_o i_o say_v can_v belong_v proper_o to_o christ_n body_n but_o to_o his_o soul_n i_o grant_v take_v my_o word_n at_o the_o worst_a 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â—â—s_o here_o â—â—g_v 16._o e_o that_o no_o more_o but_o the_o shed_n of_o his_o blood_n only_o and_o mere_o be_v the_o just_a and_o full_a satisfaction_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n even_o in_o the_o righteous_a and_o sincere_a judgement_n of_o god_n then_o we_o absolute_o deny_v your_o assertion_n as_o before_o we_o have_v do_v the_o like_a as_o for_o your_o â—_o your_o 1_o pet._n 1_o rev._n 5._o â—_o allege_v scripture_n we_o answer_v they_o as_o we_o do_v general_o 8.9_o general_o treat_n pag._n 8.9_o before_o that_o they_o mean_v not_o the_o mere_a blood_n of_o christ_n nor_o only_a the_o body_n single_o and_o simple_o consider_v but_o that_o together_o with_o the_o proper_a suffering_n of_o his_o soul_n also_o they_o be_v the_o just_a and_o full_a satisfaction_n and_o redemption_n against_o which_o you_o have_v nothing_o any_o where_o and_o likewise_o our_o advise_v and_o resolut_a answer_n be_v to_o etc._n to_o pag._n 58_o 60_o 61_o 7â—_n etc._n etc._n all_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o 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still_o that_o c_o i_o mistake_v you_o not_o 11._o â—â—eat_a 1._o â—â—g_n 11._o see_v this_o your_o turn_n &_o set_v of_o it_o be_v so_o unhansom_a for_o every_o one_o may_v see_v by_o this_o your_o handle_n of_o it_o that_o then_o you_o say_v more_o than_o here_o you_o express_v and_o here_o you_o will_v fain_o fashion_v it_o to_o somewhat_o but_o you_o can_v yea_o your_o own_o word_n bewray_v some_o alteration_n from_o that_o which_o so_o confident_o you_o preach_v where_o you_o say_v whatsoever_o the_o word_n be_v that_o you_o may_v use_v which_o you_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v these_o that_o i_o bring_v 240._o â—ag_n 240._o last_o do_v you_o grant_v that_o you_o use_v this_o reason_n in_o handle_v the_o power_n of_o christ_n death_n that_o be_v when_o you_o preach_v it_o for_o now_o in_o this_o treatise_n you_o have_v clean_o leave_v it_o out_o for_o aught_o that_o e_z i_o can_v see_v which_o bewray_v that_o it_o be_v such_o 88.113_o 〈◊〉_d 88.113_o as_o yourself_o see_v be_v not_o to_o be_v maintain_v howsoever_o here_o you_o strive_v to_o set_v some_o colour_n upon_o it_o though_o yet_o still_o in_o vain_a before_o we_o depart_v from_o this_o point_n that_o not_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n nor_o his_o flesh_n mere_o and_o only_o without_o respect_n to_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o whole_a soul_n be_v the_o full_a price_n of_o redemption_n here_o be_v fit_a place_n to_o show_v how_o sundry_a of_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v agree_v with_o we_o sufficient_o in_o this_o matter_n although_o afterward_o in_o your_o book_n you_o seem_v to_o bring_v they_o against_o us._n but_o indeed_o so_o they_o seem_v only_o for_o in_o truth_n they_o be_v with_o we_o as_o by_o these_o follow_v we_o may_v see_v first_o 5._o first_o ireâ—_n 5._o irenaeus_n the_o lord_n buy_v we_o with_o his_o own_o blood_n and_o give_v his_o soul_n for_o our_o soul_n &_o his_o flesh_n for_o our_o flesh_n tâ—â—_n flesh_n cyr._n the_o 〈◊〉_d fid_fw-we ad_fw-la tâ—â—_n cyrill_n he_o bestow_v 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his_o soul_n and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o de_fw-fr incaâ—â—_n sacr._n cap._n 〈◊〉_d hoc_fw-la in_o se_fw-la obtulit_fw-la christus_fw-la quod_fw-la induit_fw-la etc._n etc._n christ_n offer_v in_o sacrifice_n all_o that_o which_o he_o assume_v that_o be_v all_o &_o every_o whit_n that_o be_v in_o he_o beside_o his_o godhead_n 3._o godhead_n fulgent_n 〈◊〉_d thrasym_a 〈◊〉_d lib._n 3._o fulgentius_n he_o show_v in_o himself_o the_o suffering_n of_o a_o whole_a man_n in_o verity_n &_o truth_n quicquid_fw-la fuit_fw-la infirmitatis_fw-la animae_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la suscepit_fw-la &_o pertulit_fw-la he_o take_v upon_o he_o and_o suffer_v whatsoever_o infirmity_n may_v be_v in_o the_o soul_n without_o sin_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o we_o ourselves_o shall_v speak_v a_o more_o effectual_a sentence_n for_o our_o purpose_n then_o this_o be_v say_v as_o fulgentius_n here_o say_v and_o we_o ask_v no_o more_o all_o that_o 86._o that_o pag._n 86._o you_o except_v that_o by_o these_o father_n 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knowledge_n 19_o 〈◊〉_d 1.2_o â—_o 2.28_o 〈◊〉_d &_o 2_o cor._n â—0_n â—efore_o pa._n â—â—_o 19_o then_o god_n wrath_n in_o this_o sense_n be_v very_o unproper_o take_v as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v wherefore_o speak_v proper_o &_o exact_o as_o in_o this_o controversy_n we_o ought_v according_a to_o the_o reveal_v mind_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n it_o be_v chastisement_n &_o correction_n it_o be_v not_o in_o any_o wise_a wrath_n or_o punishment_n proper_o mean_v neither_o may_v it_o be_v say_v proper_o that_o his_o justice_n lead_v he_o to_o inflict_v it_o on_o we_o as_o e_o you_o affirm_v but_o it_o be_v his_o holiness_n and_o love_n towards_o his_o child_n which_o chasten_v they_o 132._o 〈◊〉_d 132._o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n which_o say_v 12.10_o 〈◊〉_d 12.10_o f_z god_n chasten_v we_o for_o our_o profit_n that_o we_o may_v be_v partaker_n of_o his_o holiness_n and_o g_o who_o the_o lord_n love_v he_o chasten_v 11.32_o 〈◊〉_d 6.7_o 〈◊〉_d 11.32_o he_o scourge_v every_o son_n that_o he_o receave_v if_o we_o endure_v chasten_v god_n offer_v himself_o unto_o we_o as_o unto_o son_n for_o what_o son_n be_v it_o who_o the_o father_n chasten_v not_o therefore_o to_o speak_v properly_z not_o god_n justice_n but_o his_o holiness_n and_o fatherly_a love_n do_v move_v he_o to_o lay_v whatsoever_o cross_n and_o trouble_n upon_o his_o child_n he_o be_v not_o unto_o they_o a_o judge_n or_o revenger_n but_o a_o father_n neither_o be_v it_o wrath_n that_o come_v from_o he_o or_o vengeance_n for_o sin_n proper_o 11._o â—â—r_fw-fr 11._o but_z h_z amendment_n in_o love_n towards_o the_o godly_a now_o the_o case_n with_o christ_n be_v clean_o otherwise_o he_o need_v no_o amendment_n but_o that_o which_o he_o suffer_v be_v right_a punishment_n he_o be_v neither_o in_o case_n as_o the_o wicked_a nor_o yet_o simple_o as_o the_o godly_a he_o differ_v from_o they_o both_o and_o yet_o in_o some_o point_n do_v partake_v of_o both_o their_o condition_n he_o be_v like_o the_o godly_a 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personne_n as_o it_o be_v or_o countenance_n or_o condition_n his_o own_o natural_o which_o god_n ever_o dear_o love_v &_o our_o countenance_n or_o person_n or_o condition_n which_o he_o sustain_v by_o his_o office_n which_o condition_n the_o lord_n true_o wordâ—_n true_o as_o yoâ—â—_n god_n câ—â—_n pag._n 26â—_n in_o deed_n in_o wordâ—_n accurse_v and_o punish_v only_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o pain_n of_o god_n vengeance_n come_v indeed_o unto_o his_o most_o holy_a nature_n the_o curse_v the_o hatred_n the_o wrath_n and_o judgement_n of_o god_n be_v quench_v therewith_o his_o own_o nature_n feel_v the_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n of_o the_o curse_n and_o hatred_n but_o the_o hatred_n &_o curse_n be_v bend_v against_o the_o load_n of_o our_o sin_n wherein_o he_o stand_v forth_o as_o guilty_a before_o god_n and_o appear_v as_o it_o be_v clothe_v therewith_o this_o be_v love_n and_o mercy_n to_o we_o this_o be_v justice_n upon_o christ_n have_v undertake_v for_o we_o this_o be_v infinite_a 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you_o make_v no_o such_o argument_n as_o here_o i_o pretend_v which_o whether_o it_o be_v true_a or_o no_o i_o report_v i_o to_o they_o that_o hear_v you_o but_o then_o what_o be_v your_o reason_n now_o be_v it_o any_o otherwise_o ground_v no_o certain_o if_o you_o make_v any_o reason_n at_o all_o who_o trifle_v then_o and_o why_o do_v you_o upbraid_v i_o so_o much_o with_o trifle_v let_v we_o see_v what_o be_v your_o reason_n now_o christ_n flesh_n be_v as_o able_a to_o redeem_v we_o as_o adam_n to_o condemn_v us._n but_o we_o inherit_v pollution_n from_o adam_n flesh_n ergo._n do_v we_o inherit_v pollution_n from_o adam_n flesh_n and_o be_v it_o not_o by_o generation_n how_o ell_n do_v we_o inherit_v pollution_n &_o condemnation_n from_o he_o if_o there_o be_v not_o otherway_v why_o do_v you_o then_o seem_v to_o refuse_v the_o difficult_a question_n of_o our_o generation_n and_o yet_o urge_v the_o sequel_n thoreof_o for_o if_o our_o soul_n arise_v in_o generation_n from_o adam_n as_o 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that_o sin_n be_v derive_v unto_o us._n but_o you_o draw_v i_o to_o talk_v of_o these_o intricat_a thing_n which_o i_o will_v in_o no_o wise_n meddle_v with_o i_o pray_v keep_v 10._o keep_v pag._n 10._o your_o promise_n better_o not_o to_o meddle_v with_o this_o difficulty_n neither_o to_o make_v it_o any_o ground_n of_o your_o reason_n which_o yet_o you_o do_v here_o notwithstanding_o again_o you_o with_o one_o breath_n overthrow_v yourself_o for_o you_o say_v we_o have_v pollution_n before_o the_o soul_n come_v whence_o soever_o it_o come_v yea_o whence_o soever_o what_o if_o the_o soul_n do_v come_v in_o &_o by_o generation_n you_o see_v how_o you_o cross_v yourself_o who_o do_v so_o taunt_v i_o for_o this_o fault_n i_o hope_v altogether_o unjust_o then_o 25_o then_o pag._n 25_o you_o
will_v disprove_v 19_o disprove_v treat_n â—â—_o pag._n 19_o my_o proposition_n which_o be_v whereby_o adam_n first_o sin_v by_o the_o same_o christ_n satisfy_v for_o sin_n you_o deny_v this_o because_o the_o scripture_n acknowledge_v no_o satisfaction_n but_o by_o death_n where_o still_o we_o must_v note_v that_o you_o mean_v only_o by_o the_o bodily_a death_n now_o how_o prove_v you_o that_o because_o the_o judge_n in_o prohibit_v adam_n to_o transgress_v threaten_a death_n 2._o death_n ocn._n 2._o in_o the_o day_n that_o thou_o cate_a thereof_o thou_o shall_v die_v the_o death_n which_o it_o seem_v 64._o seem_v pa._n 100_o 64._o you_o avouch_v again_o and_o again_o and_o be_v you_o sure_o that_o death_n here_o be_v but_o the_o bodily_a death_n only_o &_o no_o more_o then_o sure_o the_o wicked_a shall_v satisfy_v easy_o for_o their_o sin_n far_o be_v it_o from_o i_o to_o utter_v such_o a_o sentence_n nevertheless_o you_o must_v give_v i_o leave_v to_o show_v you_o also_o your_o contradiction_n in_o this_o point_n first_o in_o that_o where_o you_o acknowledge_v 42._o acknowledge_v pag._n 42._o the_o judge_n revenge_n for_o sin_n be_v death_n both_o of_o body_n and_o soul_n again_o where_o you_o 18._o you_o pag._n 18._o agree_v with_o athanasius_n show_v express_o that_o this_o text_n intend_v even_o both_o these_o anima_fw-la dixit_fw-la morte_fw-la morieris_fw-la he_o say_v to_o the_o soul_n thou_o shall_v die_v the_o death_n but_o you_o will_v prove_v your_o matter_n again_o by_o this_o 9.15_o hebr._n 9.15_o a_o through_o death_n which_o be_v for_o our_o redemption_n we_o receive_v the_o promise_n yet_o he_o say_v not_o through_o his_o bodily_a death_n mere_o and_o alone_o and_o by_o nothing_o else_o together_o therewith_o which_o be_v your_o intent_n he_o exclude_v not_o the_o soul_n proper_a suffering_n as_o b_o i_o have_v often_o say_v 1._o treat_n 1._o the_o contrary_a hereof_o you_o never_o come_v near_o to_o prove_v and_o it_o must_v not_o be_v forget_v 9_o pag._n 8_o 9_o that_o c_o hear_v â—ou_fw-fr renounce_v all_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n in_o respect_n of_o merit_n as_o from_o christ_n soul_n utter_o 253._o pag._n 253._o therefore_o that_o absurd_a speech_n and_o worse_a which_o you_o do_v unjust_o cast_v on_o i_o etc._n pa._n 250._o etc._n etc._n prove_v in_o very_a deed_n to_o be_v your_o own_o that_o christ_n suffering_n in_o soul_n by_o sympathy_n make_v not_o to_o our_o redemption_n your_o own_o place_n in_o barnard_n make_v christ_n whole_a soul_n that_o be_v the_o mind_n and_o the_o part_n depend_v on_o the_o body_n also_o to_o have_v place_n and_o part_n in_o the_o meritorious_a sacrifice_n 84._o pag._n 84._o as_o well_o as_o the_o body_n e_o ut_fw-la totum_fw-la hominem_fw-la salvum_fw-la fecit_fw-la sic_fw-la de_fw-la toto_fw-la se_fw-la hostiam_fw-la fecit_fw-la salutarem_fw-la which_o suit_v not_o with_o your_o word_n the_o soul_n of_o christ_n which_o can_v not_o die_v can_v not_o pay_v the_o satisfaction_n and_o nothing_o may_v satisfy_v for_o sin_n but_o death_n etc._n pag._n 85_o 86_o 8._o etc._n etc._n yea_o all_o your_o f_z other_o place_n of_o contradiction_n hereunto_o must_v be_v take_v in_o good_a part_n as_o for_o your_o reason_n that_o nothing_o may_v satisfy_v for_o sin_n but_o death_n it_o be_v not_o sound_a the_o scripture_n do_v show_v in_o deed_n that_o christ_n shall_v not_o satisfy_v without_o death_n but_o they_o deny_v not_o that_o there_o be_v other_o part_n of_o christ_n satisfaction_n which_o differ_v from_o death_n as_o his_o bloodshed_n and_o beside_o that_o christ_n poverty_n his_o hunger_n his_o weariness_n his_o shame_n his_o reproach_n his_o apprehension_n his_o buffet_n etc._n etc._n these_o doubtless_o yea_o all_o other_o suffringe_n of_o christ_n whatsoever_o small_a or_o great_a be_v satisfactory_a &_o meritorious_a you_o will_v say_v you_o understand_v all_o these_o and_o such_o like_a in_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n you_o may_v understand_v what_o you_o listen_v but_o who_o will_v grant_v in_o proper_a speech_n that_o these_o be_v his_o death_n or_o that_o his_o death_n be_v any_o or_o all_o these_o and_o if_o you_o take_v christ_n death_n by_o the_o figure_n synecdoche_n a_o part_n of_o christ_n suffering_n for_o the_o whole_a etc._n pag._n 41._o etc._n etc._n then_o why_o do_v g_o you_o so_o much_o abhor_v that_o figure_n here_o and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o soul_n proper_a suffering_n be_v admit_v also_o into_o the_o work_n of_o christ_n satisfaction_n although_o it_o can_v not_o proper_o die_v where_o you_o nip_n i_o also_o for_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n in_o some_o kind_n of_o sense_n die_v i_o hope_v in_o due_a place_n you_o shall_v have_v a_o reasonable_a answer_n to_o that_o matter_n till_o then_o have_v patience_n i_o pray_v and_o thus_o h_o you_o come_v to_o skan_v my_o assumption_n also_o 253._o pag._n 253._o that_o adam_n commit_v sin_n most_o proper_o in_o his_o soul_n which_o you_o grant_v in_o one_o sense_n be_v true_a but_o direct_o repugnant_a to_o my_o conclusion_n how_o i_o pray_v 25_o pray_v pag._n 25_o if_o i_o mean_v that_o adam_n soul_n transgress_v the_o commandment_n with_o her_o body_n and_o by_o her_o body_n that_o be_v the_o soul_n as_o agent_n the_o body_n as_o the_o instrument_n they_o the_o conclusion_n will_v follow_v in_o spite_n of_o my_o heart_n ergo_fw-la in_o satisfy_v for_o sin_n christ_n soul_n must_v be_v punish_v with_o her_o body_n and_o by_o her_o body_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n i_o labour_v to_o overthrow_v with_o all_o the_o wit_n i_o have_v nay_o than_o the_o conclusion_n will_v follow_v that_o the_o immortal_a part_n the_o mind_n be_v punish_v peculiar_o and_o not_o by_o and_o from_o the_o body_n only_o see_v in_o all_o even_o outward_a sin_n the_o soul_n sin_v both_o principal_o and_o also_o in_o a_o proper_a and_o peculiar_a manner_n by_o itself_o yea_o before_o the_o body_n sin_v albeit_o the_o body_n sin_v also_o secondary_o and_o in_o a_o manner_n proper_a to_o itself_o even_o as_o the_o instrument_n as_o you_o say_v yea_o further_o i_o mean_v that_o some_o sin_n the_o soul_n act_v in_o and_o by_o itself_o mere_o and_o therefore_o it_o suffer_v likewise_o some_o punishment_n mere_o in_o itself_o which_o touch_v not_o the_o body_n at_o all_o unless_o by_o sympathy_n only_o and_o that_o only_o when_o they_o grow_v vehement_a but_o all_o this_o you_o here_o deny_v doctrine_n very_o stranâ—_n doctrine_n teach_v that_o the_o soul_n proper_o commit_v no_o sin_n but_o by_o and_o with_o the_o body_n that_o be_v the_o soul_n in_o itself_o &_o by_o itself_o alone_o sin_v not_o and_o so_o consequent_o that_o god_n temporal_o and_o eternal_o punish_v the_o soul_n only_o by_o the_o body_n this_o be_v the_o true_a effect_n of_o your_o discourse_n here_o for_o proof_n of_o the_o first_o you_o say_v 25_o say_v pag._n 25_o god_n do_v not_o say_v to_o adam_n thou_o shall_v not_o like_v fruiâ—â—_n like_v the_o soudden_a fruiâ—â—_n it_o or_o desire_v it_o which_o the_o soul_n of_o adam_n do_v but_o thou_o shall_v not_o eat_v thereof_o which_o can_v not_o be_v perform_v but_o by_o the_o hand_n and_o mouth_n of_o adam_n and_o therefore_o adam_n transgress_v the_o commandment_n not_o by_o his_o soul_n but_o by_o his_o body_n even_o as_o in_o murder_n theft_n and_o adultery_n these_o fact_n man_n commit_v by_o their_o body_n and_o not_o by_o their_o soul_n and_o after_o all_o provocation_n and_o pleasure_n of_o sin_n the_o soul_n take_v from_o she_o '_o body_n all_o act_n of_o sin_n she_o commit_v by_o her_o body_n both_o which_o speech_n be_v exceed_o untrue_a and_o hurtful_a for_o even_o in_o these_o sin_n the_o soul_n as_o i_o say_v sin_v principal_o and_o peculiar_o before_o that_o the_o body_n sin_v at_o all_o yea_o the_o desire_v and_o like_n of_o evell_n be_v sin_n before_o the_o outward_a act_n be_v consummate_v and_o finish_v this_o paul_n 〈◊〉_d paul_n rom._n 〈◊〉_d understand_v at_o length_n when_o he_o become_v a_o christian_a though_o a_o long_a while_n be_v a_o pharisee_n he_o know_v it_o not_o and_o it_o seem_v this_o be_v in_o christ_n time_n the_o heresy_n of_o the_o pharisee_n against_o who_o he_o show_v that_o not_o only_o the_o outward_a fact_n of_o bodily_a sin_n be_v sin_n but_o also_o 5.22.28_o also_o â—at_a 5.22.28_o even_o the_o very_a thought_n and_o like_n towards_o sin_n wherefore_o adam_n be_v as_o well_o forbid_v to_o desire_n or_o like_v that_o fruit_n as_o to_o eat_v it_o which_o you_o deny_v the_o commandment_n be_v natural_o engrave_v in_o adam_n heart_n in_o his_o creation_n which_o since_o moses_n make_v distinct_a and_o diverse_a from_o all_o the_o rest_n which_o concern_v the_o outward_a act_n therefore_o distinct_o he_o say_v thou_o shall_v not_o desire_v or_o covet_v so_o that_o to_o desire_v the_o forbid_a
fruit_n be_v sin_n even_o without_o and_o before_o the_o act_n of_o eat_v moreover_o other_o foul_a sin_n heresy_n turkism_n and_o atheism_n be_v commit_v and_o determine_v simple_o in_o the_o mind_n without_o any_o necessary_a employment_n of_o any_o part_n of_o the_o body_n as_o touch_v heresy_n to_o hold_v two_o first_o cause_n of_o thing_n a_o good_a and_o a_o bad_a god_n and_o the_o devil_n with_o manichee_n also_o that_o christ_n the_o redeemer_n be_v not_o god_n with_o arrius_n that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o god_n with_o eunomius_n &c_n &c_n that_o christ_n have_v no_o soul_n with_o apollinaris_n that_o christ_n manhood_n be_v confound_v and_o change_v into_o his_o godhead_n with_o eutyches_n or_o divide_v from_o his_o godhead_n with_o nestorius_n or_o the_o opinion_n of_o vbiquity_n or_o of_o transubstantiation_n final_o that_o there_o never_o be_v nor_o shall_v be_v any_o christ_n a_o redeemer_n as_o the_o turk_n hold_v that_o there_o be_v no_o god_n as_o the_o 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satan_n wherefore_o for_o you_o to_o affirm_v that_o the_o soul_n commit_v all_o act_n of_o sin_n by_o the_o body_n &_o that_o god_n do_v not_o forbid_v adam_n to_o like_v or_o desire_v that_o fruit_n be_v more_o than_o strange_a doctrine_n somewhere_o most_o injurious_o 3â—_n injurious_o pag._n 3â—_n you_o reproach_n purity_n i_o dare_v say_v here_o you_o have_v no_o colour_n of_o purity_n in_o this_o point_n notwithstanding_o 2d_o notwithstanding_o pag._n 2d_o you_o resolut_o set_v yourself_o to_o prove_v your_o opinion_n not_o by_o scripture_n but_o by_o father_n who_o be_v answer_v before_o save_v tertullian_n who_o 2d_o who_o pag._n 2d_o you_o say_v point_v to_o a_o place_n of_o scripture_n for_o it_o 〈◊〉_d it_o mat._n 〈◊〉_d out_o of_o the_o heart_n come_v evil_a thought_n but_o this_o place_n be_v consider_v will_v rather_o prove_v the_o contrary_n for_o christ_n here_o mean_v not_o by_o heart_n any_o part_n of_o the_o body_n but_o mere_o the_o mind_n or_o soul_n of_o man_n and_o that_o with_o opposition_n to_o the_o body_n in_o this_o case_n of_o sin_v for_o thus_o in_o effect_n he_o say_v not_o the_o body_n sin_v by_o take_v in_o but_o the_o soul_n by_o send_v out_o that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o soul_n only_o sin_v proper_o &_o not_o the_o body_n at_o all_o no_o not_o in_o gross_a fact_n except_o as_o the_o body_n be_v the_o instrument_n the_o soul_n be_v the_o agent_n as_o yourself_o do_v speak_v otherwise_o the_o body_n sin_v not_o at_o all_o much_o less_o in_o such_o thought_n as_o be_v mere_a spiritual_a unless_o we_o mean_v by_o society_n &_o for_o conjunction_n sake_n in_o one_o person_n with_o the_o soul_n which_o indeed_o be_v it_o that_o sin_v and_o thus_o some_o have_v think_v those_o place_n of_o tertullian_n which_o 255._o which_o â—ag_n 255._o you_o cite_v may_v be_v understand_v but_o indeed_o tertullian_n you_o use_v not_o well_o and_o bring_v these_o his_o word_n against_o his_o own_o meaning_n as_o anon_o we_o shall_v further_o see_v that_o which_o you_o add_v of_o bodily_a infirmity_n let_v the_o operation_n of_o the_o soul_n for_o so_o i_o think_v you_o mean_v as_o in_o lethargy_n 256._o 〈◊〉_d 256._o apoplexy_n sleep_v frenzy_n etc._n etc._n peradventure_o than_o it_o think_v and_o consider_v more_o free_o in_o itself_o and_o by_o itself_o then_o when_o the_o body_n set_v it_o on_o work_n otherwise_o at_o other_o time_n howsoever_o it_o can_v never_o be_v prove_v that_o the_o soul_n then_o utter_o cease_v operation_n and_o can_v do_v nothing_o for_o it_o seem_v that_o only_a our_o memory_n and_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v stop_v whereby_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o we_o know_v nothing_o afterward_o what_o the_o mind_n contemplate_v and_o think_v in_o such_o case_n it_o be_v very_o rare_a when_o we_o remember_v something_o and_o by_o some_o extraordinary_a lose_n of_o those_o obstruction_n it_o be_v which_o common_o do_v possess_v our_o sense_n whole_o in_o such_o occasion_n yet_o even_o those_o small_a remnant_n of_o such_o operation_n of_o our_o soul_n be_v in_o such_o state_n do_v evident_o convince_v that_o the_o soul_n operation_n hang_v not_o necessary_o on_o the_o body_n neither_o be_v it_o idle_a when_o the_o body_n be_v hinder_v though_o common_o and_o for_o the_o most_o part_n we_o remember_v little_a thereof_o last_o if_o the_o soul_n operation_n be_v so_o necessary_o tie_v to_o the_o faculty_n and_o instrument_n of_o the_o body_n as_o you_o do_v avouch_v i_o great_o doubt_v how_o the_o soul_n immortality_n will_v be_v defend_v against_o the_o effect_n of_o your_o assertion_n 54.255_o â—â—â—oul_n have_v â—â—â—â—ion_n nor_o meereâ—â—â—â—mply_v in_o 〈◊〉_d without_o â—â—â—dy_n 54.255_o sure_o it_o bring_v in_o with_o it_o the_o heresy_n of_o pope_n john_n the_o 22._o and_o of_o certain_a anabaptiste_n that_o the_o soul_n have_v no_o be_v till_o when_o it_o shall_v resume_v her_o body_n at_o the_o
doâ—â—_n full_o 〈◊〉_d unto_o emphasis_n 53_o emphasis_n isa_n 53_o he_o sustain_v our_o very_a sorrow_n or_o our_o sorrow_n themselves_o and_o this_o we_o conclude_v the_o rather_o because_o the_o sense_n of_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n 2d_o sorrow_n heb._n 2d_o only_o be_v the_o ransom_n ordain_v and_o consecrate_v by_o god_n in_o christ_n that_o by_o they_o his_o suffering_n shall_v be_v accomplish_v &_o our_o sin_n satisfy_v whatsoever_o therefore_o in_o this_o life_n may_v be_v painful_a &_o be_v due_a to_o mankind_n general_o for_o sin_n &_o in_o it_o own_o nature_n be_v no_o sin_n that_o christ_n suffer_v whole_o and_o alltogeather_o for_o we_o even_o the_o same_o which_o else_o we_o shall_v which_o be_v your_o own_o 28_n own_o pa._n 28_n plain_a confession_n also_o i_o grant_v indeed_o it_o utter_o impossible_a that_o he_o who_o be_v uncapable_a of_o sin_n yea_o god_n himself_o shall_v be_v real_o separate_v from_o god_n or_o hate_v or_o weaken_v in_o faith_n or_o punish_v external_o yet_o it_o be_v possible_a that_o even_o he_o on_o who_o our_o sin_n be_v lay_v shall_v feel_v both_o proper_o in_o soul_n and_o also_o in_o body_n all_o the_o whole_a vehemency_n of_o our_o due_a pain_n and_o the_o sharpness_n of_o our_o smart_n pain_n affliction_n &_o sorrow_n be_v not_o sin_n be_v it_o small_a or_o great_a it_o be_v indeed_o proper_o and_o original_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n either_o in_o we_o or_o in_o other_o christ_n suffer_v punishment_n for_o sin_n not_o in_o himself_o as_o other_o do_v but_o by_o god_n ordinance_n he_o suffer_v punishment_n extraordinary_o for_o sin_n in_o us._n when_o god_n smote_n he_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o he_o to_o feel_v it_o yea_o unpossible_a it_o be_v that_o he_o shall_v not_o feel_v it_o and_o of_o necessity_n his_o soul_n peculiar_o proper_o &_o infinite_o do_v feel_v the_o stroke_n of_o god_n wrathful_a justice_n the_o vehemency_n whereof_o may_v wound_v and_o pierce_v no_o less_o even_o in_o this_o life_n where_o god_n will_v then_o in_o the_o local_a hell_n itself_o all_o these_o our_o due_a sorrow_n therefore_o and_o all_o this_o our_o sharp_a deserve_a pain_n even_o god_n own_o immediate_a hand_n smite_v the_o soul_n for_o sin_n which_o far_o exceed_v and_o comprehend_v as_o it_o be_v all_o other_o pain_n christ_n without_o any_o dispensation_n or_o qualification_n whatsoever_o endure_v for_o us._n this_o be_v that_o which_o we_o say_v and_o thus_o jerom_n also_o expound_v this_o very_a text_n 53._o storm_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 53._o say_v he_o a_o quod_fw-la nos_fw-la pro_fw-la nostris_fw-la debebamus_fw-la sceleribus_fw-la sustinere_fw-la ille_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la '_o passus_fw-la est_fw-la turn_v now_o your_o vain_a and_o frivolous_a insultation_n against_o jerom_n for_o his_o indefinite_a speech_n to_o who_o it_o pertain_v in_o this_o case_n aswell_o as_o to_o i_o 26â—_n pag._n 26â—_n if_o you_o be_v not_o a_o respecter_n of_o person_n say_v to_o he_o b_o you_o may_v do_v well_o st_n jerom_n to_o go_v to_o the_o university_n again_o whence_o you_o come_v afore_o you_o be_v wise_a and_o there_o learn_v to_o put_v quantity_n to_o your_o proposition_n that_o we_o may_v know_v when_o you_o speak_v of_o any_o thing_n whether_o you_o mean_v all_o or_o some_o but_o jerom_n will_v be_v wise_a enough_o to_o answer_v you_o if_o he_o be_v alive_a that_o whersoever_o he_o study_v he_o know_v so_o much_o that_o in_o learning_n and_o reason_n a_o indefinite_a proposition_n be_v to_o be_v take_v as_o universal_a in_o a_o necessary_a matter_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d specialâ—â—_n satisfy_v god_n unâ—â—all_a justice_n 〈◊〉_d *_o as_o the_o undertake_n of_o a_o surety_n be_v in_o his_o stead_n who_o he_o be_v surety_n for_o and_o yet_o namely_o but_o so_o far_o as_o know_v possibility_n admit_v and_o indeed_o no_o further_o now_o this_o be_v apparent_a in_o this_o case_n of_o christ_n suretyship_n and_o suffering_n in_o our_o steed_n he_o suffer_v all_o the_o whole_a punishment_n of_o sin_n due_a to_o mankind_n whatsoever_o be_v possible_a for_o he_o be_v a_o sinless_a man_n &_o also_o very_a god_n to_o suffer_v and_o further_o than_o this_o none_o will_v imagine_v or_o think_v that_o any_o unless_o mad_a man_n do_v affirm_v you_o charge_v meâ—_n c_o hereafter_o that_o i_o falsify_v this_o place_n of_o jerom_n 3.13_o 〈◊〉_d 350._o â—â—reat_a 1._o 〈◊〉_d 85._o curse_n 〈◊〉_d i_o put_v it_o â—â—â—hus_o maâ—â—ctum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d a_o parenthesis_n â—â—nod_n enim_fw-la â—â—al_a 3.13_o because_o d_o i_o do_v put_v in_o e_fw-la maledictum_fw-la with_o his_o word_n which_o be_v a_o silly_a devise_n to_o turn_v of_o jerom_n without_o answer_n for_o by_o it_o i_o express_v jeroms_n meaning_n f_o his_o word_n have_v plain_a reference_n to_o maledictum_fw-la in_o the_o g_o apostle_n who_o he_o cite_v immediate_o before_o this_o be_v they_o none_o other_o but_o a_o honest_a falsify_v of_o my_o author_n now_o that_o this_o place_n of_o isay_n and_o the_o whole_a doctrine_n which_o i_o avouch_o touch_v these_o suffering_n of_o christ_n for_o we_o may_v the_o better_o be_v receive_v let_v we_o note_v that_o the_o public_a doctrine_n appoint_v by_o h_o authority_n to_o be_v teach_v through_o our_o england_n express_v the_o very_a same_o word_n which_o auâ—â—â—tie_n i_o have_v â—â—â—ged_v &_o exâ—â—sed_v treat_v 〈◊〉_d 88.89_o â—he_n answer_v to_o iâ—_n a_o word_n namely_o nowells_n catechism_n where_o it_o be_v thus_o teach_v he_o pay_v and_o suffer_v the_o pain_n due_a to_o we_o and_o by_o this_o mean_v deliver_v we_o from_o the_o same_o neither_o be_v it_o unused_a among_o man_n â—ne_a to_o promise_v and_o to_o be_v surety_n yea_o sometime_o to_o suffer_v for_o a_o other_o but_o with_o christ_n as_o our_o surety_n so_o suffer_v for_o we_o god_n deal_v as_o it_o be_v with_o extremity_n of_o law_n but_o to_o we_o who_o sin_n deserve_a punishment_n &_o due_a pain_n he_o lay_v on_o christ_n he_o use_v singular_a lenity_n gentleness_n clemency_n and_o mercy_n christ_n therefore_o suffer_v and_o in_o suffer_v overcome_v death_n the_o pain_n appoint_v by_o the_o everliving_a god_n for_o man_n offence_n again_o his_o will_n be_v to_o suffer_v all_o extremity_n for_o we_o who_o have_v deserve_v all_o extremity_n all_o these_o thing_n be_v take_v upon_o himself_o he_o destroy_v they_o all_o where_o mark_v also_o what_o doctrine_n the_o law_n of_o this_o realm_n consonant_o publish_v and_o command_v in_o the_o homily_n of_o christ_n passion_n see_v whether_o it_o mislike_v you_o or_o no._n the_o â—_o the_o hom._n â—_o hom_o make_v christ_n put_v himself_o between_o god_n deserve_v wrath_n and_o our_o sin_n the_o extreme_a part_n of_o his_o passion_n if_o this_o be_v the_o extreme_a part_n of_o his_o passion_n than_o it_o be_v a_o further_a feeling_n than_o the_o sense_n of_o bodily_a pain_n only_o it_o can_v be_v any_o other_o than_o his_o feel_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n spiritual_o which_o our_o sin_n deserve_v therefore_o by_o the_o homily_n he_o feel_v god_n proper_a wrath_n spiritual_o which_o our_o sin_n deserve_v again_o he_o bear_v all_o our_o sin_n sore_n and_o infirmity_n upon_o his_o own_o back_n no_o pain_n do_v he_o refuse_v to_o suffer_v in_o his_o own_o body_n but_o as_o he_o feel_v all_o this_o in_o his_o body_n so_o he_o must_v feel_v the_o great_a part_n primary_o and_o much_o more_o deep_o in_o his_o soul_n ergo_fw-la he_o refuse_v not_o to_o suffer_v all_o the_o pain_n of_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n both_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n â—â—_o soul_n hom._n â—â—_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o reward_n of_o our_o sin_n the_o just_a reward_n of_o sin_n but_o this_o same_o homily_n say_v the_o reward_n of_o our_o sin_n be_v the_o just_a wrath_n and_o indignation_n of_o god_n the_o death_n both_o of_o body_n and_o soul_n therefore_o by_o the_o homily_n christ_n take_v on_o he_o for_o we_o the_o just_a wrath_n &_o indignation_n of_o god_n the_o death_n both_o of_o body_n &_o soul_n and_o thus_o also_o 34._o also_o 1._o treat_n pag._n 34._o my_o text_n of_o scripture_n be_v justify_v that_o â—â—_o that_o 2._o tim._n â—â—_o christ_n give_v himself_o the_o price_n of_o redemption_n for_o we_o which_o we_o else_o shall_v have_v pay_v where_o 261._o where_o pa._n 261._o you_o except_v against_o this_o text_n in_o timoth_n that_o i_o say_v the_o scripture_n speak_v here_o after_o the_o common_a use_n &_o custom_n of_o redeem_n captives_z take_v in_o war_n when_o a_o captive_a be_v not_o able_a some_o other_o friend_n pay_v antilytron_n the_o same_o price_n for_o the_o captive_a which_o else_o he_o shall_v you_o ask_v who_o tell_v i_o that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v after_o the_o common_a use_n of_o enemy_n i_o answer_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n antilytron_n a_o ransom_n import_v so_o much_o which_o be_v proper_o use_v in_o such_o case_n
but_o neither_o shame_n nor_o death_n to_o the_o holy_a martyr_n be_v d_o account_v by_o god_n nor_o by_o his_o servant_n as_o proper_a and_o true_a curse_n 50._o before_o pag._n 9_o 50._o but_o the_o holy_a man_n be_v in_o truth_n most_o glorious_a and_o bless_a in_o they_o again_o the_o saint_n and_o martyr_n can_v not_o be_v proper_o curse_v and_o proper_o bless_v too_o in_o any_o measure_n neither_o their_o soul_n bless_v unless_o their_o body_n be_v bless_v also_o &_o free_a from_o the_o true_a curse_n although_o you_o seem_v to_o deny_v this_o point_n which_o strange_a and_o uncouth_a assertion_n both_o here_o and_o in_o many_o place_n mo_z you_o do_v at_o lest_o insinuat_fw-la that_o be_v that_o the_o godly_a in_o their_o soul_n be_v bless_v but_o in_o their_o body_n they_o still_o retain_v god_n true_a &_o proper_a curse_n till_o the_o resurrection_n which_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o godly_a you_o say_v we_o must_v call_v thing_n by_o those_o name_n which_o god_n first_o allot_v they_o that_o i_o deny_v if_o god_n since_o evident_o have_v alter_v they_o and_o dispose_v of_o they_o otherwise_o but_o he_o have_v so_o do_v in_o this_o case_n the_o affliction_n and_o death_n which_o original_o and_o natural_o be_v punishment_n for_o sin_n and_o be_v so_o still_o to_o the_o wicked_a the_o same_o to_o the_o godly_a as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v be_v since_o change_v &_o now_o be_v proper_o chastisement_n of_o sin_n and_o not_o punishment_n nor_o curse_n only_o christ_n have_v suffer_v the_o whole_a proper_a punishment_n and_o true_a curse_n or_o vengeance_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o therefore_o on_o we_o it_o be_v not_o it_o can_v not_o be_v lay_v again_o in_o any_o part_n thereof_o you_o 96._o you_o pag._n 96._o avouch_v some_o that_o deny_v christ_n to_o have_v be_v make_v a_o curse_n or_o sin_n but_o you_o must_v remember_v 92._o remember_v pag._n 92._o your_o own_o place_n of_o austin_n maledictum_fw-la est_fw-la omne_fw-la peccatum_fw-la sive_fw-la ipsum_fw-la quod_fw-la fit_a sive_fw-la ipsum_fw-la supplicium_fw-la the_o curse_n be_v all_o sin_n which_o be_v twofold_a either_o that_o which_o we_o commit_v against_o god_n law_n or_o else_o the_o very_a punishment_n of_o that_o sin_n now_o 96._o now_o pag._n 96._o your_o testimony_n do_v mean_a christ_n be_v not_o make_v a_o curse_n or_o sin_v the_o first_o way_n that_o be_v he_o be_v not_o in_o himself_o sinful_a nor_o hate_v they_o deny_v not_o the_o second_o that_o he_o be_v make_v the_o proper_a punishment_n or_o sacrifice_n for_o our_o sin_n and_o thus_o though_o you_o lust_v not_o to_o see_v it_o yet_o my_o 45._o my_o treâ—â—_n pag._n 45._o speech_n be_v sound_a and_o true_a if_o christ_n die_v simple_o but_o as_o the_o godly_a dye_n it_o may_v in_o no_o sort_n 3._o sort_n gal._n 3._o here_o be_v call_v a_o curse_n the_o reason_n be_v evident_a because_o the_o text_n here_o do_v speak_v &_o treat_v of_o the_o curse_n of_o the_o law_n against_o sin_n such_o therefore_o be_v christ_n curse_n which_o he_o suâ—layned_v to_o conclude_v then_o his_o affliction_n and_o death_n be_v neither_o wage_n nor_o chastisement_n nor_o curse_n nor_o consequent_a of_o any_o sin_n in_o he_o yet_o as_o god_n make_v he_o sin_n for_o we_o so_o he_o true_o proper_o and_o in_o very_a deed_n lay_v the_o pain_n of_o his_o curse_n upon_o his_o body_n and_o soul_n which_o curse_n of_o god_n upon_o christ_n as_o you_o 26_o you_o pag_n 26_o say_v true_o be_v not_o in_o word_n but_o in_o deed_n wherefore_o my_o word_n 2d_o word_n pag._n 2d_o you_o open_o pervert_v affirm_v that_o i_o say_v death_n here_o that_o be_v christ_n death_n note_v galat._n 3.13_o â—ay_n in_o no_o sort_n be_v call_v a_o curse_n when_o i_o express_o even_o there_o and_o every_o where_o do_v say_v the_o contrary_n 263._o pag._n 263._o but_o a_o your_o great_a exception_n be_v that_o this_o curse_v lay_v on_o christ_n can_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o whole_a curse_n of_o god_n or_o of_o the_o law_n 264._o pag._n 264._o and_o therefore_o b_o you_o spare_v i_o not_o for_o c_o saying_n that_o paul_n here_o in_o his_o application_n out_o of_o moses_n name_v a_o part_n of_o the_o just_a curse_n of_o the_o law_n for_o sin_n 40._o treat_n 1._o pag._n 40._o thereby_o mean_v and_o infer_v to_o his_o purpose_n the_o whole_a where_o you_o must_v be_v so_o good_a as_o to_o understand_v i_o by_o my_o own_o word_n in_o other_o place_n 290._o pag_n 290._o for_o thus_o do_v you_o know_v e_o i_o limit_v my_o speech_n else_o where_o as_o touch_v the_o vehemency_n of_o pain_n christ_n be_v as_o sharp_o touch_v as_o the_o very_a reprobat_n 81._o treat_n 1._o pag_n 81._o and_o christ_n suffering_n be_v equal_a to_o the_o very_a hellish_a torment_n in_o vehemency_n of_o pain_n and_o sharpness_n again_o f_o this_o price_n equal_o in_o justice_n must_v be_v keep_v so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v possible_a 26._o pag._n 26._o and_o 37._o and_o pag._n 37._o because_o there_o be_v no_o 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public_a doctrine_n be_v not_o the_o same_o vltima_fw-la omne_fw-la pati_fw-la voluir_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la qui_fw-la ultima_fw-la omne_fw-la commeriti_fw-la sumus_fw-la diram_fw-la execrationem_fw-la suscepit_fw-la contumelias_fw-la etiam_fw-la omnes_fw-la omne_fw-la probra_fw-la atque_fw-la supplicia_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o you_o will_v say_v thus_o we_o make_v it_o not_o the_o whole_a curse_n of_o the_o law_n yes_o we_o call_v it_o right_o the_o whole_a curse_n for_o as_o much_o as_o christ_n suffer_v it_o in_o his_o whole_a manhood_n 52_o see_v before_o pag_n 8._o 1._o the._n 5.28_o â—_o pa._n 48._o 52_o even_o in_o l_o all_o the_o power_n of_o his_o m_o spirit_n &_o soul_n &_o body_n where_o that_o curse_n in_o deutero_fw-la be_v a_o part_n be_v suffer_v only_o in_o the_o body_n quicken_v by_o the_o soul_n also_o in_o other_o respect_n this_o suffering_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v well_o call_v the_o whole_a curse_n or_o punishment_n of_o sin_n 280_o pag._n 11_o 12._o â—nâ—_n 16.17_o pa._n 27â—_n 280_o as_o n_o before_o be_v declare_v after_o this_o o_o you_o think_v it_o strange_a that_o i_o say_v christ_n suffer_v &_o die_v just_o and_o be_v hang_v on_o the_o tree_n by_o the_o just_a sentence_n of_o the_o law_n &_o that_o so_o he_o be_v by_o imputation_n of_o our_o state_n and_o condition_n unto_o he_o sinful_a 51.11_o 〈◊〉_d before_o 〈◊〉_d 51.11_o defile_v hateful_a and_o accurse_a all_o the_o which_o i_o avouch_v because_o he_o undertake_v by_o god_n ordinance_n as_o our_o surety_n to_o receive_v our_o whole_a condemnation_n upon_o himself_o so_o far_o as_o his_o own_o nature_n and_o condition_n can_v possible_o admit_v just_o christ_n suffeâ—_n just_o to_o the_o end_n that_o he_o may_v whole_o acquit_v us._n in_o regard_n whereof_o i_o ask_v be_v it_o wrong_n for_o the_o law_n to_o lay_v the_o penalty_n on_o the_o surety_n when_o the_o debtor_n can_v not_o discharge_v it_o against_o this_o my_o assertion_n you_o say_v 27â—_n say_v pag._n 27â—_n by_o no_o sentence_n of_o the_o law_n he_o hang_v on_o a_o tree_n and_o a_o reason_n you_o give_v 273_o give_v pag._n 273_o because_o to_o be_v hang_v on_o a_o tree_n be_v no_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o general_a curse_n of_o god_n upon_o all_o sinner_n i_o answer_v to_o die_v for_o sin_n be_v a_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o general_a curse_n upon_o all_o sinner_n what_o say_v you_o then_o to_o his_o death_n do_v he_o die_v just_o sure_o if_o christ_n die_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n justice_n than_o he_o die_v just_o if_o he_o die_v not_o by_o god_n justice_n than_o woe_n and_o thrice_o wo_n to_o us._n for_o it_o can_v be_v but_o god_n justice_n 66._o justice_n luc._n 16.1_o deut._n 10.1_o rom._n 8.32_o see_v before_o pag._n 66._o must_v
experience_n of_o they_o this_o same_o also_o sundry_a of_o the_o father_n avouch_v with_o we_o most_o full_o and_o even_o those_o which_o yourself_o bring_v for_o a_o yourself_o 25._o pag._n 25._o cyrills_n word_n before_o touch_v be_v most_o large_a 10.3_o cyrill_n theâ—â—ur_fw-fr 10.3_o omnia_fw-la christus_fw-la perpessus_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la liberaret_fw-la christ_n thorough_o suffer_v all_o such_o passion_n which_o man_n do_v suffer_v that_o he_o may_v deliver_v we_o from_o all_o â—ature_n humane_a â—ature_n all_o the_o passion_n of_o †_o flesh_n be_v stir_v in_o christ_n yet_o without_o sin_n and_o so_o that_o unless_o he_o have_v dye_v we_o have_v not_o be_v deliver_v from_o death_n unless_o he_o have_v fear_v and_o sorrow_v we_o have_v not_o be_v quit_v from_o fear_n and_o sorrow_n here_o he_o say_v all_o our_o passion_n be_v stir_v in_o christ_n humane_a nature_n even_o so_o far_o as_o we_o be_v cure_v and_o so_o far_o as_o may_v be_v 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thus_o in_o his_o agony_n he_o wrought_v with_o a_o deep_a effect_n that_o because_o in_o his_o flesh_n he_o kill_v our_o sin_n he_o may_v also_o with_o the_o sorrow_n of_o his_o soul_n extinguish_v the_o sorrow_n of_o our_o soul_n to_o this_o very_a purpose_n also_o jerom._n also_o pag._n 47_o 4â—_n naâ—â—anz_n fulgent_n barnard_n tertull._n jerom._n many_o other_o before_o rehearse_v do_v affirm_v most_o full_o neither_o be_v this_o take_n of_o their_o sentence_n any_o whit_n to_o abuse_v the_o father_n which_o you_o 86._o you_o pag._n 86._o be_v afraid_a of_o you_o great_o abuse_v they_o which_o take_v they_o otherwise_o namely_o as_o if_o they_o mean_v that_o by_o the_o flesh_n and_o bloodshed_n of_o christ_n mere_o &_o alone_o without_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o mind_n proper_a suffering_n our_o whole_a ransom_n be_v pay_v as_o for_o our_o compare_v the_o pain_n of_o christ_n suffering_n with_o the_o pain_n even_o of_o the_o reprobat_n in_o this_o life_n i_o see_v 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&_o aught_o for_o this_o extreme_a abase_v of_o christ_n for_o us._n â—_o 〈◊〉_d pilip_n 2._o â—_o remember_v your_o own_o word_n out_o of_o austin_n that_o there_o be_v in_o some_o man_n insipiens_fw-la honorisicentia_fw-la a_o fond_a intent_n of_o honour_v christ._n if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o sure_o this_o be_v one_o point_n thereof_o which_o you_o maintain_v mr_n calvin_n a_o worthy_a minister_n of_o christ_n â—6_n â—alvin_fw-fr â—ath_n â—6_n and_o a_o pillar_n of_o the_o church_n be_v bold_a and_o say_v fatemur_fw-la certe_fw-la hanc_fw-la esse_fw-la crucis_fw-la stultitiam_fw-la quae_fw-la scandaloest_fw-mi superbis_fw-la hominibus_fw-la we_o confess_v indeed_o such_o be_v the_o baseness_n and_o folly_n of_o christ_n cross_n that_o proud_a man_n can_v away_o with_o it_o in_o another_o place_n where_o i_o show_v from_o the_o more_o to_o the_o less_o 57_o â—eat_n â—_o pa._n 57_o how_o christ_n may_v have_v for_o the_o sudden_a the_o power_n of_o his_o mind_n astonish_v and_o yet_o no_o decay_n in_o he_o of_o faith_n nor_o of_o obedience_n nor_o of_o patience_n nor_o of_o love_n like_v as_o there_o be_v not_o in_o a_o man_n benumb_a &_o bind_v in_o his_o sense_n more_o than_o christ_n be_v namely_o in_o a_o man_n a_o sleep_n or_o amaze_v with_o a_o violent_a blow_n on_o the_o head_n for_o thus_o any_o reasonable_a man_n will_v have_v conceive_v i_o see_v who_o will_v imagine_v that_o i_o think_v christ_n now_o to_o be_v altogether_o so_o without_o sense_n as_o one_o that_o sleep_v or_o that_o lie_v in_o a_o swoon_n hereupon_o you_o ask_v i_o skoff_o 299._o pag._n 299._o a_o be_v christ_n a_o sleep_n or_o in_o a_o swoon_n b_o cast_v into_o a_o trance_n 120._o pag._n 120._o or_o c_o in_o a_o fit_a of_o a_o lethargy_n but_o what_o i_o do_v think_v of_o christ_n agony_n i_o have_v say_v before_o 121._o pag._n 121._o indeed_o as_o do_v you_o grant_v that_o amazednes_n and_o astonishment_n come_v natural_o from_o sorrow_n and_o fear_n and_o that_o 293._o pag._n 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man_n have_v his_o mere_a infirmity_n all_o agreeable_a to_o god_n will_v but_o christ_n direct_o and_o proper_o glorify_v god_n in_o and_o by_o they_o more_o than_o can_v be_v utter_v i_o say_v in_o every_o point_n whatsoever_o of_o his_o humane_a infirmity_n and_o baseness_n whereunto_o he_o humble_v himself_o if_o it_o seem_v a_o hard_a phrase_n which_o in_o my_o former_a treatise_n i_o use_v say_v christ_n at_o this_o instant_n become_v forgetful_a of_o that_o which_o before_o he_o know_v my_o meaning_n be_v and_o so_o still_o i_o speak_v now_o he_o remember_v not_o he_o consider_v not_o which_o many_o time_n we_o use_v to_o name_v forget_v but_o indeed_o strict_o and_o proper_o it_o be_v
either_o now_o or_o before_o he_o die_v in_o the_o flesh_n or_o both_o now_o &_o then_o also_o for_o he_o may_v well_o suffer_v it_o even_o now_o and_o yet_o fear_v it_o more_o ensue_a yea_o such_o a_o manner_n &_o measure_n of_o fear_n as_o this_o manifest_o be_v can_v not_o be_v but_o a_o very_a suffer_v of_o these_o spiritual_a sorrow_n which_o also_o that_o show_v where_o he_o say_v my_o soul_n be_v full_a of_o actual_a sorrow_n even_o unto_o death_n etc._n etc._n neither_o be_v there_o in_o this_o any_o a_o doubt_n full_a word_n 304._o pag._n 304._o which_o be_v your_o manner_n of_o writing_n 296._o pag._n 296._o nor_o b_o device_n unfit_a for_o divinity_n but_o your_o comparison_n of_o c_o fear_v captivity_n 301._o pag._n 301._o lose_v a_o purse_n etc._n etc._n be_v very_o unfit_a to_o be_v match_v with_o this_o fear_n in_o christ_n 302._o pag._n 302._o you_o think_v this_o be_v but_o a_o d_o jest_n if_o god_n be_v say_v to_o have_v hear_v christ_n and_o deliver_v he_o from_o that_o he_o fear_v and_o yet_o to_o let_v he_o suffer_v it_o forsooth_o no_o jest_n for_o he_o doubtless_o suffer_v it_o as_o before_o we_o have_v see_v now_o nevertheless_o god_n may_v well_o hear_v he_o 2._o way_n 1._o by_o sufficient_a sustain_v he_o in_o it_o 2._o by_o deliver_v he_o out_o of_o it_o in_o due_a time_n in_o one_o place_n you_o seem_v to_o observe_v a_o point_n both_o strange_a and_o very_o contrary_a to_o yourself_o 119_o pa._n 118._o 119_o in_o say_v e_o fear_n be_v more_o intolerable_a in_o christ_n they_o doubt_v be_v fear_n so_o intolerable_a a_o thing_n for_o he_o when_o as_o you_o have_v so_o often_o and_o so_o earnest_o affirm_v that_o he_o fear_v 124._o pa._n 22._o 124._o and_o for_o f_o fear_n become_v thus_o astonish_v 303._o pag._n 303._o where_o *_o you_o seek_v a_o weak_a advantage_n in_o that_o i_o say_v eisakoustheis_n may_v seem_v to_o show_v that_o christ_n be_v hear_v be_v in_o that_o which_o he_o be_v save_v from_o you_o see_v i_o challenge_v no_o 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garden_n when_o he_o say_v let_v this_o cup_n pass_v from_o 5.7_o jeb_n 5.7_o so_o that_o the_o i_o apostle_n in_o all_o reason_n may_v be_v understand_v to_o have_v respect_n to_o all_o these_o time_n and_o woeful_a cry_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n 30._o pag._n 30._o and_o thus_o it_o be_v without_o all_o reason_n that_o you_o say_v k_o his_o agony_n end_v in_o the_o garden_n 116_o pa._n 115._o 116_o and_o that_o on_o the_o cross_n he_o have_v l_o always_o persistance_n in_o joy_n without_o obscuration_n or_o intermission_n likewise_o also_o that_o otherwise_o his_o astonishment_n must_v â—â—_o must_v pag._n â—â—_o continue_v 18._o hour_n from_o his_o enter_v into_o the_o garden_n after_o supper_n to_o the_o end_n of_o his_o life_n the_o next_o day_n at_o 3._o of_o the_o clock_n after_o noon_n how_o vain_a be_v this_o consequence_n how_o false_a be_v these_o say_n and_o contrary_a to_o scripture_n in_o all_o the_o circumstance_n but_o you_o say_v 30._o say_v pa._n 30._o the_o 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speech_n how_o you_o seem_v to_o avouch_v that_o christ_n be_v by_o god_n forsake_v in_o a_o body_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 114.116_o â—â—2_n 103_o â—â—ore_a 〈◊〉_d but_o not_o in_o b_o soul_n let_v they_o declare_v that_o can_v for_o my_o part_n i_o know_v not_o your_o secret_n therein_o i_o be_o sure_a no_o man_n can_v in_o truth_n maintain_v it_o as_o for_o c_o ambrosâ—_n pag._n 114._o â—â—â—e_a pag._n 113._o 128._o 1â—0_o 〈◊〉_d 1._o of_o yeâ—â—â—ion_n see_v â—â—â—re_v pag._n you_o wrest_v he_o as_o you_o do_v hilary_n &c_n &c_n do_v before_o after_o this_o you_o be_v bold_a and_o ask_v if_o e_z any_o dare_v doubt_n of_o your_o doctrine_n yea_o sure_o i_o dare_v not_o but_o doubt_n of_o it_o also_o we_o have_v see_v that_o the_o public_a f_o authorize_v doctrine_n in_o england_n dare_v to_o doubt_v of_o it_o which_o make_v christ_n put_v himself_o between_o god_n wrath_n and_o our_o sin_n a_o part_n divers_a from_o his_o bodily_a death_n on_o the_o cross_n â—_o â—â—â—ore_a pag._n â—_o yet_o 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death_n of_o the_o soul_n for_o he_o can_v not_o i_o say_v thus_o â—â—â—don_n thus_o much_o yield_v to_o iâ—_n he_o do_v sâ—â—ing_n thy_o â—â—â—don_n fear_v but_o he_o must_v needs_o know_v that_o it_o be_v to_o come_v or_o may_v come_v unto_o he_o 131.132_o â—wed_a furâ—â—_n before_o 131.132_o if_o he_o but_o know_v that_o it_o may_v come_v than_o it_o *_o certain_o do_v come_v unto_o he_o at_o one_o time_n or_o other_o in_o his_o passion_n before_o heâ—_n leave_v the_o world_n see_v to_o the_o hebr._n g_o christ_n abolish_v through_o death_n he_o that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o death_n that_o be_v the_o devil_n and_o so_o deliver_v all_o they_o which_o for_o fear_n of_o death_n be_v all_o their_o life_n time_n subject_a to_o bondage_n 2.14_o â—â—b_fw-la 2.14_o here_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n but_o that_o the_o apostle_n by_o â—his_n often_o repeat_v of_o death_n and_o by_o mutual_a refer_v of_o it_o in_o one_o place_n as_o it_o be_v to_o the_o other_o do_v 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deo_fw-la the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v god_n forsake_v of_o it_o 134._o â—â—fore_o pag._n â—_o 113._o â—_o 108._o 113_o â—_o 134._o but_o the_o scripture_n say_v god_n do_v leave_v he_o or_o forsake_v he_o for_o a_o season_n yea_o the_o father_n also_o c_o agree_v full_o thereunto_o the_o manner_n how_o do_v i_o have_v show_v before_o therefore_o by_o augustine_n definition_n large_o and_o right_o take_v christ_n may_v be_v say_v in_o some_o sense_n to_o have_v dye_v in_o soul_n howbeit_o though_o the_o father_n do_v grant_v the_o thing_n in_o effect_n as_o i_o have_v show_v yet_o i_o acknowledge_v they_o do_v deny_v this_o phrase_n general_o and_o so_o do_v austin_n in_o this_o place_n but_o thereabouts_o we_o never_o make_v question_n this_o be_v no_o part_n of_o our_o matter_n it_o may_v be_v even_o for_o the_o same_o cause_n they_o shun_v it_o for_o which_o we_o also_o do_v use_v it_o very_o rare_o and_o wary_o as_o before_o i_o observe_v 136._o pag_n 136._o and_o let_v this_o be_v the_o answer_n touch_v all_o your_o father_n and_o counsel_n which_o you_o bring_v abundant_o here_o and_o there_o about_o this_o point_n of_o the_o soul_n death_n though_o peradventure_o some_o of_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o insinuat_fw-la even_o this_o very_a phrase_n touch_v christ_n sometime_o as_o in_o some_o i_o touch_v before_o where_o you_o say_v 317._o â—â—g_v 317._o †_o ask_v the_o simple_a child_n that_o be_v catechize_v in_o my_o charge_n if_o i_o have_v any_o what_o death_n christ_n die_v for_o we_o and_o he_o will_v answer_v i_o out_o of_o his_o creed_n christ_n be_v crucify_a dead_a &_o bury_v it_o be_v true_a but_o our_o authorize_v catechism_n publish_v by_o m._n nowell_n and_o the_o homily_n i_o show_v the_o meaning_n hereof_o to_o be_v 117.â—_n 〈◊〉_d before_o 〈◊〉_d 67_o 117.â—_n that_o christ_n suffer_v far_o more_o sharp_o they_o mere_a bodily_a death_n even_o the_o infinite_a pain_n of_o god_n wrath_n in_o his_o soul_n which_o i_o point_v you_o unto_o 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contain_v the_o whole_a effect_n of_o our_o doctrine_n before_o deliver_v bring_v into_o 4._o assertion_n god_n himself_o in_o his_o justice_n proper_o punish_v christ_n for_o our_o sin_n see_v pag._n 8._o 9_o 75._o 82._o christ_n even_o as_o other_o man_n consist_v of_o a_o perfect_a humane_a immortal_a spirit_n and_o a_o mortal_a live_a body_n and_o so_o be_v by_o nature_n capable_a of_o suffer_v sorrow_n for_o sin_n from_o god_n hand_n aswell_o in_o his_o spirit_n peculiarly_a and_o proper_o as_o also_o in_o his_o soul_n and_o body_n together_o since_o other_o man_n do_v thus_o suffer_v for_o sin_n pag._n 8._o 48_o 52._o 61._o 74._o god_n exact_a and_o immutable_a justice_n spare_v his_o son_n in_o nothing_o but_o do_v punish_v he_o in_o all_o severity_n as_o he_o punish_v sinner_n i_o mean_v he_o punish_v he_o in_o all_o his_o part_n of_o nature_n apt_a to_o suffer_v that_o be_v in_o his_o spirit_n peculiarly_a and_o proper_o and_o in_o his_o soul_n and_o body_n together_o also_o again_o god_n punish_v he_o with_o all_o the_o whole_a general_n curse_v not_o with_o all_o the_o particular_a curse_n and_o punishment_n with_o the_o general_n curse_v in_o all_o the_o whole_a nature_n and_o substance_n of_o it_o not_o with_o all_o the_o circumstance_n with_o all_o the_o mere_a pain_n and_o sorrow_n thereof_o not_o with_o the_o sinful_a adherent_n and_o concomitant_n in_o it_o pag._n 8_o 13_o 74_o 86._o god_n exact_a &_o immutable_a justice_n spare_v not_o christ_n in_o these_o circumstance_n of_o punishment_n with_o he_o suffer_v not_o for_o either_o in_o exact_a justice_n he_o can_v not_o or_o necessary_o he_o need_v not_o to_o punish_v he_o so_o in_o exact_a justice_n he_o can_v not_o punish_v christ_n in_o such_o respect_n as_o be_v simple_o and_o absolute_o impossible_a it_o be_v simple_o impossible_a that_o any_o touch_n of_o sin_n shall_v once_o come_v near_o his_o person_n or_o eternal_a suffering_n or_o all_o the_o particular_a punishment_n in_o the_o world_n 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his_o word_n therefore_o so_o we_o profess_v and_o so_o we_o believe_v by_o the_o certain_a rule_n of_o god_n word_n and_o the_o proportion_n of_o faith_n christ_n shun_v for_o our_o sake_n nothing_o which_o the_o damn_a suffer_v except_o only_a circumstance_n and_o accident_n impossible_a or_o unnecessary_a not_o any_o substantial_a point_n of_o god_n punishment_n decree_v against_o sinew_n pag_n 13._o 14._o 16._o 43._o 66._o 75._o 87._o 134._o 135._o that_o christ_n after_o his_o death_n on_o the_o cross_n go_v not_o down_o into_o hell_n in_o his_o soul_n the_o 2._o part_n of_o our_o controversy_n be_v this_o that_o christ_n after_o his_o death_n on_o the_o cross_n go_v not_o down_o into_o hell_n in_o his_o soul_n where_o note_n first_o notes_n notes_n that_o we_o understand_v hell_n proper_o and_o local_o as_o our_o common_a speech_n in_o english_a do_v usual_o take_v it_o for_o the_o very_a place_n of_o the_o damn_a after_o this_o life_n now_o against_o they_o that_o believe_v 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be_v to_o be_v consider_v who_o right_o according_a to_o all_o the_o rest_n say_v e_z soul_n depart_v from_o their_o body_n do_v go_v to_o hades_n that_o be_v to_o a_o invisible_a place_n which_o in_o latin_a we_o call_v infernum_fw-la and_o jerome_n f_z infernus_fw-la be_v a_o place_n where_o the_o soul_n be_v include_v either_o in_o rest_n or_o pain_n and_o ruffinus_n upon_o g_o descendit_fw-la ad_fw-la inferna_fw-la give_v this_o sense_n descendit_n in_o mortem_fw-la he_o submit_v unto_o death_n all_o the_o rest_n which_o h_o you_o cite_v or_o can_v cite_v have_v nothing_o contrary_a but_o rather_o consent_v herewith_o so_o that_o it_o be_v certain_a by_o all_o the_o father_n general_o 1._o that_o hades_n and_o sheol_n be_v take_v for_o death_n noâ—â—_n noâ—â—_n the_o common_a state_n of_o death_n or_o the_o invisible_a world_n of_o the_o dead_a common_a to_o the_o soul_n both_o of_o good_a and_o bad_a though_o their_o particular_a place_n be_v far_o separat_fw-la and_o distinct_a 2._o that_o christ_n go_v not_o into_o hell_n the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a as_o you_o hold_v but_o to_o the_o habitation_n of_o the_o bless_a decease_a call_v also_o by_o they_o abraham_n bosom_n which_o we_o know_v and_o you_o also_o be_v indeed_o heaven_n according_a to_o that_o word_n of_o christ_n 16._o christ_n joh._n 16_o 16._o i_o leave_v the_o world_n and_o go_v to_o the_o father_n which_o i_o have_v prove_v further_o before_o pag._n 149._o 150._o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o err_v general_o as_o 21_o as_o pag._n 21_o yourself_o also_o hold_v in_o think_v that_o this_o habitation_n of_o the_o bless_a soul_n be_v beneath_o in_o the_o earth_n or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o heaven_n nevertheless_o this_o be_v the_o point_n wherein_o we_o agree_v and_o wherein_o they_o err_v not_o and_o which_o i_o cite_v they_o for_o and_o which_o be_v direct_o against_o you_o that_o hade_n which_o also_o be_v sheol_n belong_v to_o the_o bless_a soul_n decease_v aswell_o as_o to_o the_o damn_a 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