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A10753 A friendly caveat to Irelands Catholickes, concerning the daungerous dreame of Christs corporall (yet invisible) presence in the sacrament of the Lords Supper Grounded vpon a letter pretended to be sent by some well minded Catholickes: who doubted, and therefore desired satisfaction in certaine points of religion, with the aunswere and proofes of the Romane Catholicke priests, to satisfie and confirme them in the same. Perused and allowed for apostolicall and Catholicke, by the subscription of maister Henry Fitzsimon Iesuit, now prisoner in the Castle of Dublin. With a true, diligent, and charitable examination of the same prooffes: wherein the Catholickes may see this nevv Romane doctrine to bee neither apostolicall nor Catholicke, but cleane contarie to the old Romane religion, and therefore to bee shunned of all true auncient Romane Catholickes, vnlesse they vvill be new Romish heretickes. By Iohn Rider Deane of Saint Patrickes Dublin. Rider, John, 1562-1632. 1602 (1602) STC 21031; ESTC S102958 114,489 172

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ea●e_n nothing_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o bare_a bread_n and_o drink_v nothing_o but_o mere_a wine_n be_v the_o outward_a element_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o for_o the_o inward_a grace_n of_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v christ_n crucify_v with_o all_o his_o merit_n they_o eat_v not_o they_o receive_v not_o because_o they_o have_v neither_o a_o livelie_a faith_n to_o receive_v he_o nor_o a_o purify_a heart_n by_o faith_n to_o entertain_v he_o and_o therefore_o they_o only_o eat_v as_o ●udas_n do_v and_o as_o augustine_n say_v 205._o tract_n 59_o super_fw-la john_n page_n 205._o illi_fw-la manduca●ant_fw-la pa●em_fw-la dominum_fw-la illi_fw-la pa●em_fw-la domini_fw-la contra_fw-la dominum_fw-la the_o godly_a eat_a bread_n the_o lord_n the_o wicked_a only_o the_o bread_n of_o the_o lord_n against_o the_o lord_n ●_o quest_n what_o be_v it_o to_o eat_v christ_n body_n questi_fw-la 8_o ●_o auns_fw-ge you_o say_v carnal_o to_o eat_v christ_n flesh_n with_o aunsw_n 8_o your_o bodily_a mouth_n etc._n etc._n luther_n say_v carnal_o to_o eat_v christ_n flesh_n and_o spiritual_o to_o believe_v in_o he_o we_o say_v with_o the_o scripture_n that_o to_o believe_v that_o all_o christ_n merit_n be_v we_o and_o purchase_v for_o we_o in_o his_o passion_n this_o be_v to_o eat_v christ_n body_n as_o have_v be_v already_o prove_v questi_fw-la 9_o 9_o quest_n what_o be_v it_o to_o drink_v christ_n blood_n aunsw_n 9_o 9_o aun_n you_o say_v carnal_o to_o drink_v his_o blood_n luther_n say_v carnal_o and_o spiritual_o we_o say_v with_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v to_o believe_v that_o christ_n blood_n be_v shed_v on_o the_o cross_n for_o our_o sin_n questi_fw-la 10_o 10_o quest_n how_o be_v bread_n make_v christ_n body_n aunsw_n 10_o 10_o you_o say_v by_o transubstansiation_n luther_n say_v by_o consubstansiation_n we_o say_v by_o appellation_n signification_n or_o representation_n as_o aforesaid_a questi_fw-la 11_o 11_o quest._n where_o be_v christ_n body_n aunsw_n 11_o 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