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A34012 Missa triumphans, or, The triumph of the mass wherein all the sophistical and wily arguments of Mr de Rodon against that thrice venerable sacrifice in his funestuous tract by him called, The funeral of the Mass, are fully, formally, and clearly answered : together with an appendix by way of answer to the translators preface / by F.P.M.O.P. Hib. Collins, William, 17th cent.; F. P. M. O. P. 1675 (1675) Wing C5389; ESTC R5065 231,046 593

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manner_n therefore_o the_o doctrine_n that_o teach_v this_o be_v absurd_a and_o impious_a the_o major_a i_o prove_v thus_o all_o the_o entity_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n do_v agree_v if_o not_o specifical_o at_o least_o univocal_o that_o be_v to_o say_v as_o a_o man_n a_o horse_n and_o a_o cow_n be_v true_a and_o real_a animal_n and_o this_o word_n animal_n agree_v proper_o to_o every_o of_o they_o so_o the_o word_n bread_n and_o wine_n be_v say_v true_o and_o proper_o of_o all_o sort_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o they_o all_o agree_v in_o name_n but_o according_a to_o all_o divine_n and_o philosopher_n univocal_a cause_n do_v produce_v effect_n alike_o all_o man_n other_o man_n all_o horse_n other_o horse_n and_o so_o ●…orth_o therefore_o if_o the_o entity_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n agree_v univocal_o as_o certain_o they_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o their_o effect_n must_v be_v all_o alike_o and_o consequent_o if_o the_o bare_a entity_n of_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodons_n communion_n bread_n and_o wine_n for_o their_o signification_n as_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v can_v do_v it_o can_v exhibit_v convey_v or_o carry_v christ_n body_n and_o blood_n to_o believer_n the_o entity_n of_o all_o other_o bread_n and_o wine_n can_v do_v so_o also_o for_o they_o agree_v all_o univocaly_a &_o all_o univocal_a cause_n do_v produce_v effect_n a_o like_a therefore_o the_o mounsieur_fw-fr must_v either_o contradict_v all_o philosopher_n and_o be_v the_o only_a philosopher_n himself_o or_o else_o grant_v that_o as_o often_o as_o he_o eat_v and_o drink_v bread_n and_o wine_n which_o be_v perhaps_o too_o much_o and_o too_o often_o in_o a_o day_n he_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n and_o consequent_o if_o as_o often_o as_o he_o take_v bread_n and_o wine_n he_o do_v not_o examine_v himself_o and_o discern_v the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n according_a to_o the_o apostle_n say_v judicium_fw-la sibi_fw-la mand●…cavit_fw-la &_o ●…ibit_fw-la he_o do_v eat_v it_o as_o judas_n do_v to_o his_o own_o damnation_n what_o impious_a nonsensical_a and_o blasphemous_a doctrine_n this_o be_v let_v any_o rational_a man_n consider_v but_o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o romanist_n the_o eucharist_n be_v quite_o another_o thing_n they_o say_v that_o bare_a bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o the_o subtract_v or_o foundation_n whereupon_o signification_n rely_v in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o that_o the_o sacramental_a species_n be_v the_o foundation_n whereupon_o signification_n be_v ground_v which_o sacramental_a species_n be_v receive_v worthy_o by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o body_n because_o they_o contain_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n they_o say_v that_o at_o the_o same_o time_n they_o feed_v the_o soul_n also_o because_o they_o have_v a_o spiritual_a exhibitive_a faculty_n to_o convey_v christ_n into_o the_o soul_n and_o work_v upon_o she_o by_o unite_n her_o to_o christ_n and_o make_v she_o one_o os_fw-la his_o mystical_a member_n and_o thus_o the_o soul_n by_o 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they_o never_o eat_v wafer_n nor_o baker_n bread_n nor_o drink_v of_o the_o entity_n of_o our_o corporal_a wine_n neither_o do_v they_o eat_v the_o sacrament_n itself_o by_o the_o mouth_n of_o faith_n as_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n will_v have_v our_o soul_n to_o eat_v it_o here_o for_o if_o we_o believe_v the_o apostle_n there_o be_v neither_o faith_n nor_o hope_n in_o heaven_n where_o the_o angel_n be_v but_o only_a charity_n and_o since_o we_o be_v come_v to_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o soul_n faith_n for_o so_o the_o mounsieur_fw-fr call_v it_o saying_n by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o soul_n viz._n by_o faith_n i_o wish_v he_o will_v show_v we_o either_o by_o the_o common_a usage_n of_o speak_v or_o in_o true_a philosophy_n that_o faith_n be_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o soul._n if_o he_o take_v the_o word_n mouth_n literal_o the_o soul_n be_v a_o pure_a
be_v not_o probable_a that_o jesus_n christ_n say_v to_o they_o drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o cup_n of_o blood_n and_o yet_o that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o cup_n of_o blood_n but_o a_o cup_n of_o wine_n but_o when_o jesus_n christ_n say_v drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v to_o they_o of_o a_o cup_n of_o blood_n for_o the_o wine_n be_v not_o then_o convert_v into_o christ_n blood_n because_o according_a to_o our_o adversary_n it_o be_v not_o change_v until_o jesus_n christ_n have_v make_v a_o end_n of_o utter_v these_o follow_a word_n for_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n but_o he_o utter_v these_o word_n drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o before_o he_o utter_v those_o for_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n because_o a_o man_n must_v utter_v a_o proposition_n before_o he_o can_v give_v the_o reason_n of_o it_o answ._n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o when_o christ_n say_v drink_v you_o all_o this_o he_o mean_v of_o his_o blood_n for_o although_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o sacramental_a species_n he_o give_v it_o the_o donomination_n of_o wine_n and_o although_o it_o be_v not_o his_o blood_n immediate_o after_o he_o say_v drink_v you_o all_o this_o until_o he_o add_v these_o other_o word_n for_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n yet_o by_o so_o say_v he_o make_v it_o his_o blood_n and_o consequent_o he_o mean_v that_o they_o shall_v drink_v of_o his_o blood_n for_o i_o suppose_v and_o to_o think_v otherwise_o be_v not_o at_o all_o propable_a his_o disciple_n be_v not_o so_o rude_a illbred_a and_o irreverent_a to_o their_o lord_n and_o master_n as_o to_o snatch_v the_o cup_n out_o of_o his_o hand_n and_o drink_v it_o before_o he_o make_v a_o end_n of_o his_o speech_n to_o they_o the_o last_o part_n whereof_o viz._n for_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n make_v it_o his_o blood_n and_o so_o be_v this_o arrow_n of_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodons_n blunt_v in_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o can_v pierce_v transubstantiation_n therefore_o he_o out●…_n with_o his_o three_o arrow_n rodon_n 4._o when_o a_o thing_n be_v convert_v into_o another_o we_o can_v see_v the_o effect_n and_o property_n of_o the_o thing_n convert_v but_o only_o of_o that_o into_o which_o it_o be_v convert_v for_o example_n when_o the_o seed_n be_v change_v into_o a_o animal_n we_o can_v see_v no_o more_o the_o effect_n and_o property_n of_o the_o seed_n but_o of_o the_o animal_n only_o and_o when_o jesus_n christ_n turn_v water_n into_o wine_n the_o effect_n property_n and_o accident_n of_o the_o water_n be_v no_o more_o see_v but_o of_o the_o wine_n only_o etc._n etc._n but_o in_o the_o eucharist_n we_o can_v after_o the_o consecration_n perceive_v the_o effect_n property_n accident_n or_o part_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o we_o see_v there_o all_o the_o effect_n property_n and_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n therefore_o in_o the_o eucharist_n the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o convert_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n and_o the_o truth_n be_v if_o that_o which_o appear_v to_o be_v bread_n and_o have_v all_o the_o effect_n accident_n and_o property_n of_o bread_n be_v no_o bread_n but_o christ_n body_n clothe_v with_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n than_o it_o may_v likewise_o be_v say_v that_o they_o that_o appear_v to_o be_v man_n and_o have_v all_o the_o effect_n property_n and_o accident_n of_o man_n be_v not_o man_n but_o horse_n clothe_v with_o the_o accident_n of_o man_n answ._n i_o distinguish_v the_o major_a proposition_n thus_o when_o a_o thing_n be_v convert_v etc._n etc._n we_o can_v see_v the_o effect_n and_o property_n etc._n etc._n with_o our_o corporal_a eye_n i_o confess_v with_o the_o spiritual_a eye_n of_o our_o soul_n viz._n with_o our_o understanding_n support_v by_o divine_a faith_n i_o deny_v the_o major_a with_o its_o minor_a also_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n which_o be_v both_o shatter_a the_o consequence_n must_v needs_o vanish_v away_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o effect_n and_o property_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o see_v with_o our_o corporal_a eye_n be_v because_o they_o be_v object_n of_o faith_n which_o object_n be_v beyond_o the_o sphere_n and_o capacity_n of_o our_o corporal_a eye_n and_o other_o sense_n for_o the_o object_n of_o our_o corporal_a sight_n be_v coloratum_fw-la quid_fw-la some_o colour_a thing_n and_o the_o object_n of_o our_o other_o sense_n be_v mere_a corporeal_a thing_n but_o object_n of_o divine_a faith_n be_v never_o see_v nor_o know_v by_o their_o colour_n nor_o by_o smell_v touch_v or_o taste_v from_o whence_o a_o man_n may_v see_v how_o sharp_a keen_a and_o witty_a this_o arrow_n of_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n be_v against_o transubstantiation_n which_o be_v a_o high_a object_n and_o mystery_n of_o divine_a faith_n as_o to_o both_o his_o example_n of_o seed_n into_o a_o animal_n and_o water_n turn_v into_o wine_n without_o any_o of_o their_o effect_n see_v either_o in_o the_o animal_n or_o in_o the_o wine_n i_o confess_v all_o that_o to_o be_v true_a and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o those_o be_v but_o mere_a simple_a conversion_n and_o no_o sacrament_n but_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o only_o a_o conversion_n of_o one_o substance_n into_o another_o but_o it_o constitute_v a_o sacrament_n also_o and_o because_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o although_o the_o entitye_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v destroy_v their_o accident_n shall_v remain_v to_o be_v symbol_n or_o sign_n of_o our_o spiritual_a nourishment_n and_o be_v therefore_o call_v analogical_o bread_n and_o wine_n though_o they_o be_v not_o real_o but_o mere_a accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o the_o natural_a entitye_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n wherewith_o they_o be_v former_o sustentate_v be_v real_o change_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n this_o then_o be_v so_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o although_o the_o sacramental_a species_n appear_v to_o our_o corporal_a eye_n to_o be_v but_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o according_a 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consecration_n ought_v to_o be_v understand_v according_a to_o their_o immediate_a sense_n p._n 17._o the_o b._n sacrament_n be_v the_o new_a testament_n in_o christ_n blood_n &_o not_o only_o of_o his_o blood_n p._n 22._o these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n signify_v a_o substantial_a be_v and_o not_o a_o sacramental_a only_o p._n 23._o the_o protestant_a communion_n exhibit_v not_o christ_n body_n &_o blood_n to_o the_o believer_n p._n 27._o the_o sacramental_a species_n receive●…_n worthy_o make_v the_o receiver_n a_o mystical_a member_n of_o christ._n p._n 30._o i'faith_o alone_a insufficient_a for_o this_o sacrament_n ib._n faith_n be_v no_o mouth_n literal_o or_o metapho●…ically_o p._n 31._o christ_n glorify_a body_n never_o damnify_v by_o the_o receiver_n of_o the_o b._n sacramen●…_n p._n 32._o to_o verify_v a_o proposition_n it_o suffice_v the_o thing_n be_v as_o the_o proposition_n say_v it_o be_v p._n 35._o i●…_n be_v the_o sacrament_n that_o be_v the_o chief_a and_o whole_a cause_n of_o our_o spiritual_a refreshment_n and_o the_o thing_n which_o the_o soul_n principal_o hunger_n and_o thirst_v after_o faith_n be_v only_o a_o con●…ition_n requisite_a so_o be_v hope_n and_o charity_n also_o for_o to_o receive_v worthy_o p._n 38._o christ_n body_n worthy_o receive_v work_v spiritual_o upon_o the_o soul_n p._n 40._o these_o word_n of_o st._n aug._n to_o eat_v the_o ●…lesh_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o figure_n etc._n etc._n which_o de_fw-fr rodon_n allege_v against_o we_o expound_v p._n 43._o cardinal_z cajetan_n authority_n allege_v against_o we_o expound_v p._n 45._o the_o action_n whereby_o we_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n an●…_n sanctification_n end_v in_o glo●…ification_n consist_v not_o in_o the_o spiritual_a eat_n or_o drink_v by_o faith_n only_o p._n 5●…_n in_o these_o word_n my_o flesh_n be_v mea●…_n indeed_o no_o figure_n fall_v upon_o the_o word_n meat_n p._n 55._o christ_n flesh_n be_v a_o corporal_a food_n that_o nourish_v spiritual_o only_a p._n 57_o object_n of_o divine_a faith_n not_o to_o he_o level_v by_o our_o reason_n and_o sense_n p._n 59_o christ_n come●…_n into_o the_o sacrament_n by_o a_o adductive_a power_n p._n 66._o he_o be_v not_o produce_v there_o entitative_o but_o modal_o only_o p._n ibid._n certain_a passage_n of_o scripture_n allege_v a●…ainst_a we_o by_o de_fw-fr rodon_n viz._n that_o there_o be_v ●…reaking_v givin●…_n ea●…ing_v and_o drink_v after_o consecra●…ion_n answer_v p._n 68_o when_o christ_n say_v drink_v you_o all_o this_o mat._n 26._o he_o mean_v his_o blood_n p._n 71._o why_o the_o e●…ects_n of_o the_o sacramental_a species_n ●…emain_v after_o transubstantiation_n p._n 73._o transubstantiation_n be_v a_o total_a substantial_a conversion_n and_o not_o a_o formal_a substantial_a conversion_n only_o p._n 75._o the_o sac●…amental_a species_n be_v something_o sub●…ect_v li●…e_v p._n 77._o transubstantiation_n destroy_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o acci●…ents_n p._n 79._o transubstantiation_n destroy_v not_o the_o nature_n o●…_n sac●…aments_n p._n 84._o corporal_a nourishment_n in_o the_o sacramental_a s●…ecies_n n●…t_o requisite_a p._n 85._o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n ought_v to_o be_v adore_v with_o a_o latria_n p._n 88_o if_o our_o adversary_n give_v not_o a_o latriacal_a adoration_n to_o their_o communion_n bread_n it_o may_v be_v lawful_o give_v to_o dog_n p._n 89._o if_o they_o adore_v their_o communion_n they_o be_v great_a idolater_n than_o we_o p._n 91._o christ_n give_v power_n to_o priest_n to_o consecrate_v p._n 97._o christ_n body_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n immediate_o by_o reason_n of_o its_o substance_n p._n 99_o it_o be_v quantity_n be_v also_o there_o though_o not_o with_o its_o quantitative_a dimension_n p._n 100_o the_o definition_n of_o a_o proper_a place_n and_o how_o many_o manner_n of_o way_n both_o christian_a divine_n and_o philosopher_n hold_v a_o thing_n may_v be_v in_o a_o place_n p._n 103._o a_o glorious_a body_n may_v be_v in_o its_o equivocal_a place_n p._n 109._o the_o jacobins_n and_o the_o jesuit_n opinion_n concern_v christ_n body_n to_o be_v bring_v or_o produce_v in_o the_o sacrament_n save_v p._n 112._o christ_n body_n be_v in_o all_o thing_n subject_a to_o his_o soul_n as_o his_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o his_o divinity_n p._n 117._o why_o the_o local_a extension_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v hinder_v p._n 119._o de_fw-fr rodon_n argument_n of_o to_o move_v and_o not_o to_o move_v at_o the_o same_o time_n etc._n etc._n answer_v p._n 121._o wherein_o a_o formal_a contradiction_n consist_v p._n 123_o de_n rodons_n ridiculous_a quibble_n and_o unphilosophical_a illation_n answer_v p._n 129._o distance_n be_v only_o betwixt_o corporal_a thing_n whilst_o they_o be_v in_o their_o univocal_a place_n p._n 130_o a_o sacramental_a place_n be_v proper_o no_o place_n at_o all_o p._n 133._o de_fw-fr rodon_n dropsical_a argument_n of_o a_o drop_n of_o water_n that_o drown_v many_o thousand_o etc._n etc._n moulder_a p._n 136._o division_n be_v only_o between_o corporal_a thing_n in_o their_o proper_a place_n p._n 138._o god_n and_o nature_n be_v not_o oblige_v to_o do_v what_o they_o can_v do_v p._n 140._o de_fw-fr rodon_n shoot_v at_o christ_n through_o diana_n side_n p._n 143._o christ_n be_v see_v in_o the_o sacrament_n by_o the_o spiritual_a eye_n of_o our_o understanding_n support_v by_o the_o light_n of_o faith_n p._n 146._o it_o be_v not_o convenient_a we_o shall_v see_v christ_n visible_o with_o our_o corporal_a eye_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n p._n 148._o substance_n possess_v no_o place_n p._n 151._o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n whether_o take_v substantial_o or_o quantitative_o have_v no_o posture_n or_o situation_n in_o it_o p._n 154._o his_o body_n appear_v not_o more_o or_o less_o for_o divide_v or_o sub-dividing_a the_o host_n p._n 156._o christ_n be_v as_o glorious_a and_o happy_a in_o the_o host_n as_o he_o be_v in_o heaven_n p._n 161._o what_o these_o term_n reduplicative_o and_o specificative_o what_o sensus_fw-la compositus_fw-la and_o divisus_fw-la mean_v p._n ibid._n as_o christ_n come_v into_o the_o host_n without_o local_a 〈◊〉_d so_o he_o leave_v it_o without_o local_a ●…e_n 〈◊〉_d p._n 165._o de_fw-fr rodon_n give_v the_o apostle_n the_o lie_n p._n 167._o christ_n diana_n and_o the_o apostle_n save_v from_o de_fw-fr rodons_n keen_a arrow_n p._n 168._o de_fw-fr rodon_n jump_v with_o the_o jew_n against_o christ_n p._n 170._o his_o thunderbolt_n or_o celestial_a arrow_n shiver_v p._n 172._o according_a to_o de_fw-fr rodons_n principle_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v no_o sacrament_n of_o our_o lord_n supper_n at_o all_o p._n 174._o cl●…ud_fw-fr de_fw-fr xainte_v defend_v against_o de_fw-fr rodon_n p._n ibid._n exorcism_n p._n 176._o de_fw-fr rodon_n miraculous_a arrow_n put_v by_o p._n 179._o christ_n real_o in_o heaven_n and_o real_o in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n at_o the_o same_o time_n p._n 182._o he_o be_v not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n impanated_a p._n ibid._n he_o give_v himself_o to_o judas_n also_o p._n 18●…_n bellormine_v and_o peron_n defende●…_n p._n 186._o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n have_v a_o relation_n to_o those_o of_o the_o new_a p._n 187._o the_o mo●…sieurs_fw-fr scripturistical_a arrow_n shat●…ered_v p._n 190._o the_o mark_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n p._n 193._o the_o seven_o sacrament_n expound_v p._n 195._o why_o we_o keep_v the_o eucharist_n in_o our_o pix_n and_o 〈◊〉_d p._n 197._o monsieur_n and_o his_o party_n the_o false_a prophet_n the_o evangelist_n speak_v of_o p._n illid_v god_n many_o manner_n of_o way_n in_o his_o creature_n p._n 202._o external_n adoration_n due_a to_o christ_n where_o he_o be_v know_v to_o be_v personal_o present_a p._n 203._o heretic_n uncivil_a both_o to_o god_n and_o man_n p._n 206._o according_a to_o de_fw-fr rodons_n principle_n we_o may_v adore_v the_o devil_n instead_o of_o christ_n p._n 209._o why_o external_n adoration_n be_v due_a to_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n more_o than_o in_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n p._n 210._o heaven_n and_o hell_n destroy_v by_o the_o monsieurs_fw-fr principle_n p._n 211._o the_o monsieur_n three_o foundation_n build_v upon_o quicksand_n p._n 215._o de_fw-fr rodon_n very_o considerable_a argument_n pernicious_a to_o all_o mankind_n p._n 218._o destructive_a to_o go●…s_n providence_n p._n 222._o a_o moral_a certitude_n of_o be_v christen_v sufficient_a p._n 223._o pope_n adrian_n defend_v against_o de_fw-fr rodon_n p._n 226._o apostate_n priest_n and_o monk_n in_o credit_n and_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n with_o de_fw-fr rodon_n and_o his_o party_n p._n 228._o the_o p●…imitive_a church_n adore_v the_o host_n p._n 233._o prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o sundry_a holy_a father_n p._n ibid._n our_o diana_n or_o mass_n hold_v it_o out_o from_o all_o age_n maugre_o de_fw-fr rodon_n and_o all_o heretic_n p._n 237._o diana_n vindicate_v against_o idolatry_n p._n 238._o the_o church_n make_v no_o new_a article_n of_o