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A09106 A quiet and sober reckoning vvith M. Thomas Morton somewhat set in choler by his aduersary P.R. concerning certaine imputations of wilfull falsities obiected to the said T.M. in a treatise of P.R. intituled Of mitigation, some part wherof he hath lately attempted to answere in a large preamble to a more ample reioynder promised by him. But heere in the meane space the said imputations are iustified, and confirmed, & with much increase of new vntruthes on his part returned vpon him againe: so as finally the reconing being made, the verdict of the Angell, interpreted by Daniel, is verified of him. There is also adioyned a peece of a reckoning with Syr Edward Cooke, now L. Chief Iustice of the Co[m]mon Pleas, about a nihil dicit, & some other points vttered by him in two late preambles, to his sixt and seauenth partes of Reports. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1609 (1609) STC 19412; ESTC S114160 496,646 773

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in this place vnderstandeth only the order of the three persons among themselues but not a different degree in perfection For that Tertulliā in another place hath these words Diuinitas gradus non habet vtpote vnica the Godhead of the three persons hath no degrees as being only one 89. Thus then did Cardinall Bellarmine seeke to expound in good sense the first two wordes of the sētence by another place of Tertullian himselfe but the whole sentence he neuer defended nor admitted but held it rather for erroneous in Tertullian hereticall in Bullinger And now yow see what notable aduantage M. Morton hath gotten out of this his so notable obiection which is nothing els but the discouery of two or three notable shiftes and fraudulent trickes of his owne And yet do you consider how he insulteth as if he had proued somwhat against Bellarmine indeed For thus he continueth his speach for his fifth instance THE FIFTH OBIECTION against Cardinall Bellarmine for false imputation of heresies vnto sundry Protestants §. XI THOVGH P. R. require saith he but three examples o● f●● shood yet may I not enuie h●m a further choice because I know not the curiosity of his palate Therfore let him againe consult with Cardinall Bella●mine in another taxation of Prote●●●t● saying in one place that they teach that the soule of ●aithful men departing this li●e doe not goe directly vnto heauen In another place he hims●lf● togeat●er with his fellow Iesuite haue publiquely recorded● that it is a common obiection of Protestants prouing from Scr●ptur● against the doctry●e of purgatory that the soules of the ●aith all pre●e●●ly after death goe di●ectly vnto heau●n So he 91. And truly it seemeth strange to me that M. Morton in this his peculiar ●tryfe for sinceritv cannot set downe any one thing sincerely with●ut some admixture of fraud Let him consult saith he with Bellarmine in another taxation of Protestants that they teach that the soules o● the faithfull departed do not go directly to heauen I haue consulted with him at leastwise with his booke and he answereth that the word Protestants twice heere re●eated is not to be found ●n him in the place by you cited For that he ascribeth not this heres● vnto all Protestāts in gene●all but only vnto three in particuler of our time to with Luther Cornelius Agrippa and Iohn Caluin a●ter diuers o●d heresies named by him as of Armenians● and the like that held the same his words a●● Eundem errorem habet Caluinus c. Caluin hath the s●me error that soules of the faithfull do not enter into heauen nor enioy the vision of Almighty God before the day of Iudgement but Christ only is admitted therunto reliquos omnes residere in atrio ib. que expectare vsque ad mundi consummationem that all the rest besides Christ do not enter the Sanctuary of heauen but do expect without in a certayne porch or entry vntill the consummation of the world And this opinion of Caluin Bellarmine proueth out of his owne cleare words in sundry places of his workes as namely lib. 4. Instit. cap. 20. § 24. 25. § 6. So as in setting downe this assertion of Cardinall Bellarmine M. Morton hath made him to tax all Protestantes and to say they do teach c. wheras he taxeth only three particuler men Neyther haue I yet read any other that defendeth the same Let vs see now how he maketh Bellarmine to contradict himselfe for herin stands the principall drift of M. Morton in this place to seeme thereby to say somewhat against him 92. First then he bringeth in these words as of Bellarmine It is a cōmon obiection of Protestantes prouing from Scriptures against the doctrine of Purgatory that the soules of the faithfull presently after death go directly vnto heauen Out of which words M. Morton inferreth it cannot be that Protestants should hold the foresaid contrary doctrine of expecting in the porch Wherto I answere that for this to frame this litle shew of contradictiō M. Morton hath concealed craftily the name of Caluin in all this obiection and turned it into Protestants wheras the assertion is ascribed by Bellarmine namely and chiefly vnto Caluin and not to other Protestāts and therfore we graunt that Caluin supposing his former assertion to be true cannot vse this obiectiō against Purgatorie that soules go directly to heauen except he would say that his foresaid atrium or porch and outward place of stay is also heauen or a peece of heauen different from that Sanctuarium Caeli into which he saith that only Christ is admitted vntill the day of Iudgment 93. But other Protestants that hold not this fond opinion as few or none perhaps do may vse their former argument still if it were true that soules go directly to hell or to heauen And it is to be noted how cūningly M. Morton hath borne himselfe in this matter not once vttering the name of Caluin but Protestantes in common wheras Caluin chiefly is meant yea only perhaps for the Porch for that it seemeth to haue beene his owne particuler deuise wherby the sly dealing of M. Morton is discouered in euery thing and yet forsooth will he be still A Minister of simple truth and conuince Cardinall Bellarmine of wilfull falshood But let vs go forward and search further into his simplicitie HIS SIXT AND last obiection against Cardinall Bellarmine for false imputation of the Sarcamētary heresie to Protestants §. XII BELLARMINE resteth not heere saith he but once againe challengeth Caluin for as he ca●leth it an ancient heresie alledged by Theodoret affirming that there is only a figure of Christs body in the Eucharist And yet in another place affirming both that that opinion is not ancient nor yet now to be found in Theodoret and also that the forsaid doctrine of Caluin doth teach that in the Eucharist there is to be exhibited vnto the faithfull not only a signe of Christs body but also the body and bloud it selfe by which mens soules are nourished vnto eternall 〈◊〉 Or as another Iesuite testifieth for Caluin that our soles communicate with the body of Christ substantially Heer 〈◊〉 no more oddes in this accusation then ancient ●●d not anciēt heresy and not heresy All these con●●●dictions do certainly euince that Bellarmine hath 〈◊〉 publike imputations slandered those whome in 〈◊〉 conscience he did acquit And shall we thinke at this conscience could be sincere in alleadging her mens testimonies witnesses who is found ●●us perfidiously vniust in exhibiting his owne I 〈◊〉 are to produce multitudes of this kind which I ●●ue in store and will be a debtour to P.R. for ma●● of this sort ready to pay my debt as soone 〈◊〉 this my promise shall be exacted Thus farre M. ●●rton ●● And heere now I answere that it is suffici●●tly seene by the payment he hath already made ●●w ready or able he is to pay his debt
ancient heresy but only that it was not altogeather the same with that of the Pro●estants at this day and had an other foundation or ●otiue to wit for so much as those hereticks did ●ot belieue that Christ had taken any flesh at all ●hey consequētly belieued not that he gaue it in the ●acrament But the Protestants though they beleeue ●hat he tooke true flesh yet do they not belieue that ●t is really giuen in the Sacrament for that they be●ieue not these wordes Hoc est Corpus meum in the ●ense that the Church doth so as these do formally ●mpugne the Reall Presence and the other but by a ●onsequence drawne from another heresy which ●s the cause that they cānot properly be called Sacra●entaries as ours are but most ancient they are ●o in this he contradicteth not himselfe about their ●ntiquity 102. The last point of obiected contradiction in ●his place is that Bellarmine confesseth Caluin to hold that togeather with the Sacrament of the Eucharist God doth exhibit vnto the faithful not only a signe of Christs body but also the body and bloud it selfe yea and as Valen●ia addeth further that Caluin confesseth that our soules do cōmunicate with the body of Christ substantially Wherto I answere true it is that in words Caluin doth affirme as much in some partes of his workes but denyeth it againe in others and therupon do both Bellarmine and Valentia conuince him of most euident and palpable contradictions in this matter he seeking to say something different not only from Luther but also from VVickli●●e Zuinglius therby to make a sect of himselfe but yet not finding indeed wherin to subsist or be premanent in any deuise that he could find out for proofe wherof Cardinall Bellarmine d●th set downe seauen s●u●r●ll propositions of his about this matter and proueth th● same substantially out of his owne wordes and discourses ech one of them different from the other and some of them so contradictory as by no possible meanes they may be reconciled or stand togeather As first that the flesh o● Christ is only in h●au●n and that in so certaine and determinate a place as it is as ●istant from the bread as the highest heauen is from the earth then this no●withstanding he saith as heere is cyted by M. Morton that in the supper the true body of ●h●ist is exhibit●d vnto the faithfull not only a signe yea that the very substance o● Christes body is giuen Next to that againe he saith that notwithstanding the distance b●tweene th● 〈◊〉 of Christ the Sacramentall signes yet are they ioyned ●o●●ather by so miraculous and inexplicable meanes as neyther ●●●gu● nor pen can vtter the same And then further tha● 〈◊〉 must not belieue that this coniunction is by any reall com●●g downe of Chr●stes body vnto vs but by a certaine substa●●ial force deriued from his flesh by his spirit Where he seem●●● to s●y that the coniunction is made not in the substance but in some essentiall quality And so in the fifth place more cleerly he saith that it is made by apprehensi●n of faith only wherby he contradicteth all that he sayd before of reall and substantiall coniunction And in the sixt place he confirmeth more the same by saying that wi●ked men receaue not the body at all quia corpus Christi solo ore fidei accipitur for that the body o● Christ is only receaued by the mouth of fayth And in the● and last place he concludeth that this Sacrament doth not giue the body o● Christ or faith vnto any that hath it not already but only doth testify and confirme that now it is there and so it is but as a signe or seale to vse his wordes of that which is th●re already And this being the variety of Caluins opinion it proueth no contradiction in Bel●armine but in Caluin himselfe And so many corruptions hauing heere beene proued against M. Morton do conuince that in him which he would proue in Cardinall Bellarmine but cannot as how see and yet ●e concludeth so confidently as before yow haue heard saying All these contradictions do certainly euince ●hat he the Cardinall hath by publicke imputations slaun●ered those whome in his cons●ience he did acquit and shall we ●hinke that his conscience could be sincere in alleadging other ●●ns testimonyes and witn●sses who is sound thus persidiously ●●iust in ex●ibiting his owne Thus he And I remit me to ●he Reader whether he hath seene hitherto any one point of perfidious dealing proued against the Cardinall among so many as haue appeared on the part of M. Morton But yet now he will go forward as he saith to another subiect to wit to shew some exāples o● falsifications out of Cardinall Bellarmine in allegation of other mens testimonyes Let vs see whether he performe any thing more then in the rest he hath done 103. But first before we enter into this other examen there occurreth vnto me a consideration worthy to be pondered by the Reader which is that all these six obiectio●s made against Cardinall Bellarmine for imputing old heresyes to Prot●stants are taken out o● on only chapter of his which is the 9. of his 4. Booke Of the no●●s of the true Church in which 9. Chapter as before yow haue heard he chargeth the Protestants of our time with different heresyes of tw●nty seuerall condemned old Heresiarches or chiefe Heretiks and therof in●erreth that as the vnion and agre●ment in doctrine with the ancient Catholike Fathers is a note of the true Church and of true Catholiks so to participate with ancient heretiks in any one condemned heresy is a damnable note of the contrary which Chapter M. Morton perusing thought good to set vpon six only for clearing Protestants of them to wit the Pelagians the Nouatians the Manichees the Arrians and other two particuler heresyes wheras in reason he should haue eyther cleered all or none for so much as according to S. Augustines sentence and other ancient Fathers the holding of any one condemned heresy is sufficient to euerlasting damnation So as M. Morton picking out only a few leaueth all the rest as not excusable and vnder hand by his silence granteth th●t they are held by the Protestants which how markable a poynt it is I leaue it to the Reader to iudge and so shall passe to examine the other head of obiections that he hath against Cardinall Bellarmine THE ●HIRD PART ●F THIS CHAPTER CONTEYNING ●THER OBIECTIONS against Cardinall Bellarmine for falsifications in alleadging of oth●r mens authoriti●s and first about S. Cyprian §. XIII MAISTER MORTON passing from Cardinall Bellarmines accusations imputations against Protestants for heresies vnto his allegations of their testimonies corruptly as he pretendeth ●andled by him he beginneth his accusation with a ●entence of S. Cyprian about traditiōs in these words S. Cyprian saith he hath this qu●stion he going