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A03325 An ansvvere to master William Perkins, concerning Christs descension into Hell: By John Higins Higins, John, controversialist.; Higgins, John, fl. 1570-1602, attributed name. 1602 (1602) STC 13442; ESTC S117336 17,085 58

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death of Christ haue set downe at large his Passion death buriall resurrection and ascension and withall they make rehearsal of small circumstances therefore no doubte they woulde not haue omitted Christs Locall descension to the place of the damned if there had bin any such thing And the ende why they penned this historie was that we might beleeue that Iesus is Christ the Sonne of God and that in beleeuing wee might haue life everlasting Now there could not haue bin a greater matter for the confirmation of our faith then this that Iesus Christ the son of Mary who went downe to the place of the damned returned thence to liue in happines for ever IOHN HIGINS The Reasons why this first expositiō is true are these The Evangelists and especially St. Matthew report that CHRIST who is the truth it selfe prophetically spake twice therof in the signe of Ionas And St. Luke saith that the same truth told after his Resurrection howe all must bee fulfilled which were prophesied of him St. Luke also reportes howe the holie Ghost expoūdeth the prophecy of David and againe St. Paule and St. Peter spake thereof in their Epistles Assure your selfe then there was such a thing as in places fitte God willing shall plainely appeare ere we end with this our worke We must not then confute but beleeue this great matter for the confirmatiō of our faith as the scriptures do teach vs Cōsidering that if he had not in Soule descended the Devil and the damned might haue bragged of the force of that their kingdome But as the 3. young men in the hoate Oven Daniel in the den of the Lions and Ionas in the belly of the Whale beeing the signes and figures of CHRISTS Descension came forth without hurte so Christ from that furnace from that denne of the Lyon from that belly of hel victoriously as he descended came forth with valour with freedome with triumph WILLIAM PERKINS The second reason why this first exposition seemeth not to be true is this If Christ did goe to the place of the dāned then either in soule or in body or in his godhead but the godhead could not descēd because it was every where and his body was in the graue And as for his soule it went not to hel but presently after his death it went to Paradise that is the third heaven a place of ioie and happinesse Luk. 23 43. This day thou shalt be with me in Paradise Which words of Christ must be vnderstood of his manhoode or soule and not of his godhead for they are an answere to a demande and therefore vnto it they must be sutable Nowe the theefe seeing that Christ was first of al crucified and therefore in all likelyhoode shoulde first of all die maketh his request to this effect Lord thou shalt shortly enter into thy kingdome remember me then To which Christs answere as the very words importe is thus much I shall enter into Paradise this day and there shalt thou bee with mee Now there is no entrance but in regard of his soule or manhood For the godhead which is at all times in al places cannot be said properly to enter into a place IOHN HIGINS Your second reason standes on this place to day thou shalt bee with mee in Paradise Christ spake this as God who only hath power to giue Paradise and whose to daie as Augustine saith is eternity and hee speaketh it as man to that happy mā who after that evening never since saw night nor darknes For they blessed departing hēce haue their evening at their death and being dead presently see in soule the day spring visiring them from an high of that to day which after is nightlesse Then hee that lookes for a sublimary day of light and darcknesse amongst the blessed soules in Paradise is darkely deceived For if the theefes soule went that same night to Paradise as wee beleeue it did yet went it the same to day of Christes eterne nature and was in Paradise the same to day of Christs glorious humane natures ascēsiō which with the theefe was yet the same to day lasteth nightlesse till now and for ever Christ was not bounde by necessitie of must nor did in custome suite everie demaunde or petition with aunswere For sometimes hee questioned againe and sometimes hee did not answere at all But to this petition he answered as God and Man and therefore your tvvo musts assigning the same to the manhoode and cutting it of from the godheade are more then the scriptures allowe This supposition with the fiction of two Enters interferres it selfe For the text is not so but thus Lorde remember me when thou commest into they kingdom And Iesus saide vnto him to day thou shalt be with me in Paradise He spake saith Euthymius as God which filleth al and was togither every where in the Sepulcher in hell in Paradise and in heauen Also if the soule of Christ was in Paradise before his resurrection thē it was not in the graue if not in the graue then that translation is false thou vvilte not leaue my soule in graue Now your concluding no entrance with the fiction of two enters interres nothing The texte of S. Luke is true yours is not so WILLIAM PERKINS Againe when Christ saith thou shalt bee with mee to day in Paradise hee doeth intimate a resemblaunce vvhich is betweene the first Adam and the second Adam The first Adam sinned and was presently cast out of Paradise Christ the seconde Adam having made the satisfaction for sin must immediatly enter into Paradise Now to say that Christ in soule descended locally into hell is to abolish this Analogie betweene the first and the second Adam The ende of the second reason JOHN HIGINS In this matter there can be no resemblaunce betweene them for the first Adam vvas not presently cast out of paradise after his death but nine hundred yeares before he died or was buried The second Adam ascended into the heauenlye Paradise after his death buriall descension and resurrection The first Adam vvente out of the earthly Paradise with a mortall body the seconde Adam went into the heauenly with a glorified body And whosoever will read Gen. 3. the 7. verse and the verses after considering vvell the particulars there shal plainly perceiue that Adam was not presently cast out as you say for that presently is not in the third of Genesis Neither must Christ immediatly after satisfaction c. as you say enter into Paradise this immediately is not in all the new Testament Now to say that Christes Soule descended not into Hell is to abolish the authorities of the Scriptures and to cashire the Creede which proue the descension The end of the second Reason WILLIAM PERKINS The third reason why the first exposition seemes not to be true Auncient Councels in their cōfessions Creeds omitting this clause shew that
the first death which belongeth to the body it did not die the second death which is a total seperation from God Onely it suffered the sorrowes of the second death which is the apprehension of the wrath of God as a man may feele the panges of the first death yet not die the first death but liue Againe it is to no end that Christes Soule should goe to hel to preach Considering it was never heard of that one soul should preach to another especially in hel where al are condemned in conscience cōvicted to their iust damnation and where there is no hope of repentance or redemption IOHN HIGINS To say that Christ was quickened by his soule is to reason vpon no text and so we leaue it So was the descension of Christ also Christ was mortified in the flesh but he was quickened in the spirite that is in soule not that it died but that in anguish it suffered the sorrowes of death which cōpast his body And therfore he said my soule is very sad evē to the death But when that death was past the sorrow anguish sadnes were ended and the ioy the comforte and solace which his soule immediately after receiued may very fitlie be named a reviving or quickening And of this reviving or quickning al the blessed souls departed haue presently after this life a ioyful most happy feeling There is an end why Christ went preached in hell and why Peter wrote that he preached there We must beleeue the word though wee knowe not the ende Considering it was ever hearde of since Christs time that the soule of Abraham had a speech with the soule of the rich man in hell and tolde him his owne and besides how that his brethrē had Moses and the Prophets c. And the borne blind said It was neuer heard of that any man opened the eies of one that was borne blinde But yet the cure was to some end so was the descension of Christ also WILLIAM PERKINS It wil bee answered that this preaching whereof Peter speaketh 1. Pet. 3. 19. is only reall or experimentall because Christ shewed himselfe there to convince the vnbeliefe of his enemies But this is flat against reason For when a man is iustly condemned by God and therefore sufficiently convicted what neede the Iudge himselfe come to the place of execution to convict him And it is flat against the text For the preaching spokē of here 1. Pet. 3. 19. is that which is performed by men in the ministery of the word as Peter expoūdeth himselfe elsewhere 1. Pet. 4. 6. to this purpose also was the Gospell preached to the dead that they might bee condemned according to men in the flesh but that they might line according to God in the spirite JOHN HIGINS The preaching of Christ in hell was real that is in re indeed not experimētal as to proue an experiment or conclusiō For al the prophesies must needs be fulfilled so as the Councel of God decreed and as the Scriptures reporte It was then a powerful passage in his sin-lesse soules freedome and valour for so he went to conquer the devil and to confound the damned in hel from whence he returned with triumphant victory But these matters of faith are not to bee measured by the shallow flattes of reason for al thinges vvhatsoever the Lord would that did be in heaven and in earth and in the sea in all deepe places This prerogatiude Iudge might go where he would and convict whom he list hee could bee no more exempted from hel then hee could bee payned thereby or detained therein These two texts are not flat of one nature For there in 1. Pet. 3 19. the spirit of Christ went and preached to the spirites in hel here in 1. Pet. 4. 6. the Gospel is saide to be preached to the deade c. that is to the Gentiles or ●entilized Iewes vnto such as Christ ment when hee saide let the deade bury their dead WILL. PERKINS Lastly there is no reason why Christ should rather preach shew himselfe in hel to them that were disobedient in the daies of Noe then to the rest of the damned And this is the first exposition The second followeth IOHN HIGINS If we shal runne from faith to no reason I wil conferre like reason with your reason thus there is no reason why Abraham should rather shew himselfe to the rich glutton in hell then to the rest of the damned this is as wise a reasō as that But all thinges are possible to him that beleeveth The text is hee went in spirite and preached to the spirits which are in prison And this the faithfull beleeue because it is Scripture and they beleeue the descēsion because they are Christians And thus much touching the first exposition The second followeth WILLIAM PERKINS The second vsuall exposition of this clause he descended into hell is that Christ descēded into the graue or was buried This exposition is agreeable to the truth yet it is not meete or convenient For the clause next before he was buried contained this point and therfore if the next words following yeelde the same sense there must bee a vaine and needlesse repetition of one the same thing twice which is not to be allowed in so short a Creede as this If it be saide that these words are an exposition of the former the aunswere is that then they should be more plaine then the former For when one sentēce expoūdeth another the latter must alwaies be the plainer But of these two sentēces he was buried he descended into hel the first is very plaine easy but the latter very obscure and hard And therefore it can be no exposition thereof and for this cause this exposition neither is to be receiued And thus endeth the 2. expositiō IOHN HIGINS If Christ descended into the graue it was in his body aliue for to descend is a liuely action This cannot stand with the Scriptures for all the Evangelistes say he yeelded vp the Ghost also they say he was taken downe was shrowded buried in a new sepulcher by Joseph of Arimathea c. his body could not descende except it were aliue and they would not haue buried it if he had not beene dead That seconde exposition then is not agreeable to the word and as you say it is not meete nor convenient so say I because it is false For it makes a vaine and needlesse repetition of one thing twice c. Wherefore it is not to be allowed nor liked of His buriall was sensible it was done and seene here on earth his descension was an invisible action of the immortal soule perfourmed in hel only comprehended by faith not by sense nor by reason and therefore as you say this seconde exposition is not to bee receiued as expounding the burial and in this we somewhat agree And thus