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A15419 Loidoromastix: that is, A scourge for a rayler containing a full and sufficient answer vnto the vnchristian raylings, slaunders, vntruths, and other iniurious imputations, vented of late by one Richard Parkes master of Arts, against the author of Limbomastix. VVherein three hundred raylings, errors, contradictions, falsifications of fathers, corruptions of Scripture, with other grosse ouersights, are obserued out of the said vncharitable discourse, by Andrevv Willet Professor of Diuinitie. Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621. 1607 (1607) STC 25693; ESTC S120028 176,125 240

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so_o he_o frame_v his_o argument_n from_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o thief_n to_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n reason_v from_o the_o less_o to_o the_o great_a 3._o he_o deny_v that_o any_o such_o collection_n can_v be_v make_v out_o of_o augustine_n that_o if_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o thief_n go_v to_o paradise_n christ_n much_o more_o but_o that_o this_o be_v augustine_n meaning_n rather_o that_o because_o the_o thief_n soul_n be_v present_o make_v bless_v etc._n etc._n in_o paradise_n and_o so_o free_v from_o the_o fear_n of_o death_n and_o hell_n much_o more_o be_v the_o soul_n of_o christ_n exempt_v contra._n augustine_n word_n be_v these_o if_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o thief_n be_v straightway_o the_o bodie●beeing_v dead_a call_v to_o paradise_n shall_v we_o think_v any_o to_o be_v so_o impious_a to_o think_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v three_o day_n keep_v in_o hell_n etc._n etc._n here_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o the_o fear_n of_o death_n or_o hell_n but_o of_o call_v 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be_v with_o i_o quantum_fw-la attinet_fw-la ad_fw-la creaturam_fw-la etc._n etc._n concern_v that_o creature_n wherein_o he_o be_v make_v of_o the_o seed_n of_o david_n after_o the_o flesh_n he_o be_v not_o yet_o himself_o where_o he_o be_v to_o be_v but_o in_o that_o sense_n he_o may_v say_v where_o i_o be_o as_o we_o may_v understand_v that_o he_o shall_v quick_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n that_o he_o say_v he_o be_v there_o already_o where_o he_o be_v present_o to_o be_v in_o the_o same_o tractate_n he_o also_o thus_o expound_v the_o glory_n etiamsi_fw-la eam_fw-la dici_fw-la hoc_fw-la loco_fw-la intelligamus_fw-la etc._n etc._n though_o we_o understand_v that_o glory_n to_o be_v here_o speak_v of_o not_o which_o the_o father_n give_v unto_o his_o son_n be_v equal_a in_o beget_v he_o but_o which_o he_o give_v unto_o he_o be_v make_v the_o son_n of_o man_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o cross_n he_o understandeth_v it_o as_o well_o of_o the_o glory_n give_v unto_o he_o as_o man_n 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