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A78018 Conformitie's deformity. In a dialogue between conformity, and conscience. Wherein the main head of all the controversies in these times, concerning church-government, is asserted and maintained; as without which, all reformation is headlesse, and all reconciliation hopelesse. Dedicated by Henry Burton, to the honour of Jesus Christ, as the first-fruits of his late recovery from death to life; as a testimony of his humble and thankfull acknowledgement of so great a mercy: and published for the service of all those, that love the Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity ... Burton, Henry, 1578-1648. 1646 (1646) Wing B6160; Thomason E358_20; ESTC R201164 26,532 40

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not endure to hear of this King of the Jews So the Heathen Emperour Domitian out of jealousie of his Empire sought to root out the whole Race of CHRISTS Kindred until two of them were brought before him that got their living hardly in the husbanding of a few acres of land and understanding of Christs kingdom that it was altogether spirituall and not of this world he dismissed them and ceassed his persecution An example sufficient to shame thousands that glory in the Name of Christians and contrary to this Heathen cannot endure to hear of Christs kingdom to be spirituall but under some fair colourable pretences of Spiritualty and Clergy and I know not what endeavour nothing more then to set up a worldly kingdom which yet they must forsooth call Christs kingdom when in nothing it is spirituall but as it is a Tyranny set over mens consciences souls and spirits But sir before I proceed any further with you let me also crave your name Conf. Sir my name is Conformity Consc Conformity Sir if you be the man I know none more ready to raise slanders upon me then your self and may I not say truly of thee that thou art one of the greatest troublers of Israel For what can more trouble the world then when thou Conformity would'st force all mens consciences to dance after thy Pipe Conf. Why Mr. Conscience do not ye think that I have a conscience as well as you should I therefore be an enemy to Conscience But indeed I confesse my conscience is not so strict or strait-laced or self-willed as obstinately to stand upon mine own singular opinion in opposition to the generall judgement of most meh and those not only learned but pious too so far as I can judge Consc It seems then that every conscience by your verdict must be strait-laced and self-willed that will not follow the multitude seeing you ground your conscience upon men for their number learning piety making them the rule of your conscience and not Gods Word alone Conf. Sir I hold this the safest way for I may misunderstand the Scripture which many learned cannot so easily do Consc This indeed is a good plea for Popery who boast of their Universality Learning Councels Synods and therefore besides the Popes infallible Oracle not easily subject to mis-understand the Scriptures Or you are like those Jewes who would not believe in Christ unlesse the Rulers did know indeed that he was the very Christ Or as the Pharisees said Have any of the Rulers or of the Pharisees believed on him Thus do you not pin your faith and so your souls upon mens sleeves when you will believe as most believe or as the Church or Nation believes Conf. But sir I put a great difference between a Councel of learned Papists or a Synedrion of Jewish Priests and a Synod of learned Protestants Consc Indeed the very names of Papist and Protestant import no small difference although a Papist and a Protestant at large are at no great odds in matter of Faith Conscience Religion only such a Protestant is apter to turn Papist then a Papist Protestant And take your Protestants at the best call a Synod of the learned est and highest esteem in the world yet even such a Synod may in some things and those fundamentall too possibly run into and wrap themselves in foul errours Conf. How sir shew me any one instance hereof that ever any learned Protestant Counsel or Synod hath erred in any fundamentall of faith or much lesse hath maintained such an Error or Heresie and I will not henceforth be so confident in depending and resting upon mens judgements be they never so learned godly or many Consc Seeing you thus put me to it what think ye of Jesus Christ Is not he a prime fundamentall Conf. No doubt for he is the only foundation For other foundation can no man lay Consc Is not Christ then as well in his three Offices as he is King Priest and Prophet as in his two natures united in one Person of the Eternal Son of God a fundamentall of faith so as as well he that denieth any one of his three Offices as * he that denieth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is an Antichrist and grand Heretick as overthrowing a principall foundation of faith Conf. I conceive this cannot well be denyed Consc Nay of necessity it must be believed For the Papists in joyning their Traditions with the Scripture deny Christs Propheticall office and in equalling their Satisfactions with Christs merits they deny his Priestly Office and in exalting their Hierarchy call it Papall or Prelaticall or Sacerdotall * over the Temple of God mens consciences they deny Christs Kingly Office All which Offices together or any one of them being denied is * with Antichrist to deny that Jesus is the Christ seeing the Christ is he that is anointed King Priest and Prophet of which to deny any one is to deny that Jesus is the Christ Do ye not believe this Mr. Conformity Conf. I confesse there appears to me a truth to be in all this But yet Mr. Conscience I hope you do not go about to ensnare me with mine own confessions Consc Why Master Conformity are you conscious to your selfe that while you confesse the truth the truth should ensnare you Certainly the bonds of * truth willingly taken upon us become the robes and livery of our true freedome Conf. Sir take me not at the worst I would not willingly utter words to my prejudice Consc Speak the words of truth then and fear nothing Conf. Well sir proceed then to what you have more to say Consc I say then that to deny any one of Christs Offices as afore is to overthrow a Foundation of faith Conf. I grant it Consc Hereupon I inferre that it is possible for a learned Synod of Protestant Divines to deny one of these three Offices and so to overthrow a foundation of faith Conf. Though it be possible yet it is not probable But sir remember what ye undertook namely to prove by instance that a Protestant Synod of Orthodox Divines hath thus erred Consc Nay stay Mr. Conformity remember your self well Did I say a Protestant Synod of Orthodox Divines For how Orthodox if they overthrow a foundation of faith then they cease to be Orthodox Conf. Well however yet they might in other fundamentals be Orthodox Consc But in any one fundamentall to be Heterodox is to cease to be Orthodox and obstinately persisting is hereticall Conf. I confesse that any one Heresie maintained makes a man a Heretick hold he otherwise never so many truths and so he overthrows the faith as those did who * denyed the Resurrection though all other truths they held But sir all this while I expect your proof or instance that a Synod of Protestant Divines should fall into any such foul errour or heresie as should overthrow the foundation Consc Mr. Conformity for