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A62157 Some queries proposed, to the monethly meeting of the Quakers at Aberdeen; the sixth day of June, 1700. By Robert Sandilands With their answers thereto; together with some remarks thereupon. Published by authority. To which is prefixed a letter from George Keith, sent to the Quakers in Aberdeen, containing a very serious and Christian expostulation with his old friends, &c. Sandilands, Robert.; Keith, George, 1639?-1716. aut 1700 (1700) Wing S663; ESTC R220626 23,403 36

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those expressions GOD Man being born of MARIE we do not find them in the Scriptures nor do we read that MARIE was the Mother of GOD but in the Popes Canons Articles c. And what nonsense saith he page 47. ibidem and unscripture Language is this to tell of GOD being co-created with the Father or that GOD hath Glory with GOD doth not this imply two GODS and that GOD had a Father let the Reader judge and page 24. To tell of the Word GOD cocreator with the Father is all one as to tell of GOD being cocreator with GOD if the Father be GOD and this is to make two GODS two Creators c. And thus G. W. opposes the Godhead of CHRIST as he doth his Manhood in other Quotations he also denyes the Glorious Hipostatical Union that it consists of a Human and Divine Nature or that they are hipostatically one See his Christian Quaker page 141. And their Book called A Testimony for the true CHRIST pag. 8. Whereof G. W. is supposed to be the Author they deny the Humanity of CHRIST as Humanity signifies the Earthly Nature of Mans Body as coming from Humus the ground but as Humanity signifies Meekness Gentleness Mercifulness as opposite to Cruelty in this last Sense they own CHRIST's Humanity See the Quotation at large cited in G. Ks. fourth Narrative p. 70. but deny it in the former which is the true Sense of Scripture and of all true Christians And as they deny the Humanity of CHRIST so they deny Divine Worship and Honour to be given to him and consequently denyes his Divinity as William Shewen a noted Writer among them expresly sayes in his Book called a small Treatise concerning evil thoughts p. 37. Not to JESUS the Son of Abraham David and Mary Saint or Angel but to GOD the FATHER all Worship Honour and Glory is to be given Q. 9. Did CHRIST's Natural Body which was Crucified and was Buried rise again And did that Body after his Resurrection ascend into Heaven And is that Body now in Heaven A. We believe that CHRIST's Body which was Crucified and was Buried did rise again and did after his Resurrection being wonderfully glorified ascend to Heaven and is now at the Right Hand of the Majesty on high Heb. 1. 3. R. This Answer if they have no secret reserved meaning in it in all appearance seems Orthodox and agreeable to the Sense of all sound Protestants But the Reader may Compare it with what G. W. sayes in his Nature of Christianity pag. 41. What Scripture proof saith he after his socratical way of writing is there that CHRIST subsisteth outwardly Bodily without us at GOD's Right Hand and where is GOD's Right Hand is it visible or invisible within us or without us onely And is CHRIST a SAVIOUR as an outward Bodily existence or PERSON without Us distinct from GOD and on that Consideration to be Worshipped as GOD yea or nay But John Whitehead a very eminent and ancient Preacher among them is more explicit in his Postscript to a Book called the Quakers Refuge p. 90. I have several times saith he denyed that CHRIST hath now a Body of Flesh and Bone Circumscript or limited in that Heaven which is above and out of every Man on Earth And G. W. in his Light and Life pag. 38. is very plain where he expresly saith the Quakers see no need of directing men to the type for the Antitype viz. Neither to the Outward Temple nor yet to Jerusalem either to JESUS CHRIST or his Blood knowing that neither the Righteousness of Faith doth so direct Rom. 10. Q. 10 Is that Heaven into which CHRIST hath ascended in the true Glorified Nature of Man consisting of Soul and Body without us or within us only And do you own the Man CHRIST JESUS to be without you as well as His spirit and Light within you A We firmly believe that that Heaven unto which CHRIST hath ascended in the 〈◊〉 Glori●●ed Nature of Man 〈…〉 of Soul and Body is without i● and u● do own the Man CHRIST JESUS to be without us as well as His Spirit and Light within us Rom 8 34. Heb. 8. 1. R. This Answer may be compared with what G. F. says in his great mistery p. 214. There is none have a glory and a Heaven but within them Now if there be no glory nor Heaven without us Then how can CHRIST be ascended into a Heaven without us And W. P. redicules the locality of both Heaven and Hell and sayes in his Rejoinder p. 179. To deny it is not very offensive and that it looks too Carnal indeed Mahomitan viz. to assert it W Smith an Antient and Eminent writter among them in his Catechism p. 57. has this Question And is that which is within you the only foundation upon which you stand and the principle of your Religion answer that of GOD within us is so for we know it is CHRIST and being CHRIST it must needs be ONELY and PRINCIPAL for that which is ONELY admits not of another and that which is principal is greatest in being and thus we know CHRIST in us to be unto us the ONELY and the PRINCIPAL Q But do ye hold that this foundation and principle within you is sufficient to eternal Life A. Yes we do so And G. F. in his great mistery p. 248 says to C. Wade The Devil was in thee and thou sayeth thou art saved by CHRIST without thee And G W sayes in truth defending the Quakers p. 65 That Faith in CHRIST without men is contray to the Apolles Doctrine Is this to own the Man CHRIST JESUS to be without us as A. J c asserts they do in their answer Q. 11. Are we Justified and Cleansed from Sin by the Blood of CHRIST that was outwardly shed And are we sanctified by that Blood meritoriously as by His Spirit Grace and Light in us efficiently A. We answer affirmatively R. With this affirmative answer may be compared R. Bs 7 proposition in his a pology p of his works 264 As many sayeth he as resit not this Light viz. the Light within but reserve the same it becomes in them a Holy Pure and Spiritua 〈◊〉 bringing so the Holiness Righto●sness 〈◊〉 and all those 〈…〉 fruits which are acceptable to GOD by which Holy Birth viz JESUS CHRIST formed within us and working His works in us as we are Sanctified so 〈…〉 in the ●ight of GOD according to 1 Cor. 6. 11. Here Justification and Sanctification are intirely 〈◊〉 to CHRIST the Light within and there is not one word of the outward CHRIST or his outward Blood outwardly shed Let the Reader also consider what he delivers as his 3 position in p. 370 viz That since good works as naturally flow from this Birth as heat from Fire therefore are they of absolut necessity to Justification as Causa sine qua non i. e. tho not as the Cause for which yet as that in which we are and