Selected quad for the lemma: soul_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
soul_n	believe_v	body_n	death_n	4,734	5	5.3285	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A25225	The additional articles in Pope Pius's creed, no articles of the Christian faith being an answer to a late pamphlet intituled, Pope Pius his profession of faith vindicated from novelty in additional articles, and the prospect of popery, taken from that authentick record, with short notes thereupon, defended.	Altham, Michael, 1633-1705.; Altham, Michael, 1633-1705. Creed of Pope Pius IV, or, A prospect of popery taken from that authentick record.	1688 (1688)	Wing A2931; ESTC R18073	87,445	96

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endure_v before_o a_o actual_a entrance_n into_o heaven_n 3._o that_o they_o do_v use_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o do_v think_v those_o prayer_n may_v be_v advantageous_a to_o soul_n depart_v all_o which_o we_o can_v ready_o grant_v he_o and_o yet_o reject_v this_o article_n of_o a_o popish_a purgatory_n for_o the_o two_o first_o of_o these_o he_o quote_v st._n austin_n st._n greg._n nyssen_n and_o theodoret_n and_o he_o may_v have_v cite_v a_o great_a many_o more_o who_o speak_v of_o a_o intermediate_n state_n and_o a_o purgatory_n fire_n but_o if_o he_o have_v attend_v to_o what_o they_o say_v he_o may_v have_v find_v that_o the_o middle_a state_n they_o speak_v of_o be_v not_o a_o state_n of_o pain_n and_o torment_n but_o of_o rest_n and_o ease_n and_o the_o fire_n they_o mention_v be_v only_o that_o at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n when_o their_o purgatory_n fire_n must_v be_v extinguish_v as_o for_o st._n austin_n it_o must_v be_v acknowledge_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o a_o 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