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B03939 An English answer to the Scotch speech. Shewing the intollerableness of tolleration in matters of religion. And converting each argument in that speech to its most reasonable, genuine, and proper use, and each paragraph into an argument against its author. / By W.K., a lover of loyalty, truth and tranquility ; and one who accounts it a dignity, as well as duty, to be an obedient son of the Church of England. W. K., fl. 1668 1668 (1668) Wing K23B; ESTC R217294 11,450 17

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Schismaticks are not by penalties to be restrained and bring in the first Primitive days to avouch it As if there were no difference between a Church establishing and one established and that because they were deprived of the Magistrates countenance and consequently could not proceed in that Method that therefore it is unlawful for Christian Kings to punish with the sword temporal those who violate their Ecclesiastical Constitutions surely this is no judicious arguing And again as if there were no difference to be made between Religion it self and the adjuncts thereof to argue that because the doctrine of the Gospel was not imposed by force on the infidels that therefore obedience to an acknowledged legal Authority ought not to be enforced upon Christian Professours though the things to be submitted to are matters of order and decency is so poor a shift that it deserves not a line more to confute it We shall readily grant you that you never knew any arms taken up by True Protestants For I must tell you I account not the Separatists so for the matter of Religion for when the Episcopal party went of late into the Field it was to defend their Soveraign and also themselves But these detesters of Wars because their horns are short they were the men that made the abuse of Religion and fear of Superstition their pretence to invade the King and his Subjects And we now I hope shall not need to enterprize that difficulty you speak of and put our selves in arms against Sectaries as such But if these men as it is natural to them prove as great traitors in deeds as they are already in words I hope the enterprize will not be thought unlawful for sure he 's neither a good Englishman nor a good Christian who will not endeavour their suppression Little need is there of arms to force men to be Hypocrites when hypocrisie is so ready to force men into arms And I cannot in charity judge him any other then a hypocrite who under pretence of Religion arms his tongue with reproaches and whose fingers itch at a sword and all this against his undoubted Soveraign I must agree with you herein that fire and iron cannot work upon mens souls but yet let me tell you they have been found more effectual then love and pity for these men you are concern'd for will break sooner then bend and are not so ingenious as to be moved with mercy And therefore good Sir whilst we love and in our excellent Litany desire their conversion and pray for their persons give us leave to withstand and oppose their obstinate errours The Will must be acknowledged to be free from necessitation and coaction but yet not so free but that it may be attracted by motives and perswasives by rational arguments and judicious reasonings into a complyance with what before it could not submit to and it is every mans duty to endeavour to have his understanding so rightly informed that his will which follows the dictates and representations of that higher faculty may be complyant and sequacious to its dictates But now if in stead of this men suffer their wills to usurp the thrones of their understanding and are resolved to believe only what they list and the trite Proverb tells us it is an easie matter thus to believe and love to make to themselves a creed and gospel out of their own notions and to frame it according to their own fancies interests and passions who can pity these men if we endeavour to reclaim the stubbornness of their wills by enacting penalties for their wilfulness I wish heartily it were not too true that there are some amongst us who are so addicted to their own fancies that they resolve to give a Supremacy to their Wills and to have and obey no other Cesar and that tell us this is the God that is to be obeyed rather then man Sure then though the power of the Prince be especially over the bodies of men yet because the body hath some influence upon the Soul and the Soul also acts in many things by the body and especially because it ordinarily appears that money is the life of these mens lives and there is nothing comes in competition with it but the vogue of the people and a great reputation It may not be unreasonable to punish them in their muck and money for the maliciousness of their minds True it is these men are members of the body Politick but such as a Sore-leg is to the body natural which if it festers rankles gangrens Ense recidendum ne pars sincera trahatur I mean not this in the strict and literal sense for I love not Draco●s laws that are writ in bloud but my meaning is an old Sore is not to be excused from sharp corrosives because the part aggrieved is a member of the body but the smarting costick may well be used in hope of a Cure A nobler way and a gentler connivance hath been used with these men then they ever deserved Penal laws take no cognisance of their clancular Preachments provided there be not above five besides the family And our Gratious Soveraign hath for this twelve Months last past very much born with their tumultuous Conventicles But what is the effect of all this Lenity but an ungrateful impudency and open railery against King and Parliament Though the Oxford Act was never yet executed yet are these Unthankful persons so little senseable of the Kings Indulgence to them that they fear not to assert that they do not apprehend it any product of Lenity but rather the effect of a miraculous Providence which hath stopt and barr'd the mouth of the Lion Thus they fear not to speak evil of dignities and spread evil reports of the Lord 's Anointed But can Tolleration be thought the way to Union as you seem to intimate or is poison to be antidoted by keeping it in the Stomack Surely Sir both Propositions are equally probable Since therefore Lenity will not avail to cure them Severity must be endured by them and administred to them for who can help what will away It is false irrational and absurd to affirm that diversity of Religions is not destructive to Society and a bar to the civil Conversation of men Sure Sir you are a great stranger in Israel if you know not what Tygers a meer difference in opinion hath rendred some Oliverians to the Loyal party And as great a stranger are you to the Tempers of men and the Wiles of Satan if you have not observed that such a diversity is the Author of feuds and bitter animosities and that Two Religions like Cesar and Pompey will be always at Daggers drawing for the Supremacy the one not enduring any Superiour the other hating the thoughts of an equal For every man being so far his own Parasite as to flatter himself into a belief that the truth is on his side will take all occasions to assert and promote it and to malign them