Selected quad for the lemma: soul_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
soul_n	adam_n	original_a	sin_n	4,215	5	5.6070	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A07964	Maria triumphans Being a discourse, wherein (by way of dialogue) the B. Virgin Mary Mother of God, is defended, and vindicated, from all such dishonours and indignities, with which the precisians of these our dayes, are accustomed vniustly to charge her.	N. N., fl. 1635.; Anderton, Lawrence, attributed name. aut	1635 (1635)	STC 18331; ESTC S102869	83,816	338

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