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A47751 Primitive heresie revived in the faith and practice of the people called Quakers wherein is shewn in seven particulars that the principal and most characteristick errors of the Quakers were broached and condemned in the days of the Apostles and the first 150 years after Christ : to which is added a friendly expostulation with William Penn upon account of his Primitive Christianity lately published / by the author of The snake in the grass. Leslie, Charles, 1650-1722. 1698 (1698) Wing L1140; ESTC R26153 27,838 41

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and Primitive Fathers who have Condemned them I charitably believe that the Quakers at least the Generality of them do not know nor may be have heard of these Ancient Heresies or that they have so literally lick'd them up But now they do know let them consider and see how they have put Darkness for Light and Light for Darkness 2. But if the Quakers say as of late they have begun to do That they are Mis-represented that they do not hold these Vile Heresies and Errors Charg'd against them nor ever did hold them Let the Reader judge of that by the Quotations which are produc'd out of their most Approved Authors in The Snake and Satan Dis-Rob'd of all which G. Whitehead in what is called his Answer does not deny one But pleads Not Guilty without offering to Disprove the Evidence brought against them However That is not my Business now I am willing they should come off as easily as they can Provided they do come off and mean not this to Deceive us 3. Let it then be suppos'd that the Modern Representations they have given of their Notion of The light within and of other their Doctrines since the oppositions they have lately met with are the True and Genuin sense of what they held from the beginning And when truly explained and understood the same and no more than what the Ch. of England and all sober Christians have always held If so then they must begin again to give a new Account of their Separation and so violent a Separation as they have made not only from the Ch. of England but all the Churches in the World as Edw. Burrough p. 416. of his Works And so all you Churches and Sects by what name soever you are known in the world you are the seed of the great Whore And p. 17. of his Epist to the Reader he tells him Thou mayst fully perceive we differ in Doctrines and Principles and the one thou must justifie and the other thou must condemn as being one clean contrary to the other in our Principles And p. 1. he says We have sufficient cause to cry against them and to deny their Ministry their Church their Worship and their whole Religion What shall we do now Now we Agree in nothing our Whole Religion is Condemned And ther is no Compounding we must Condemn the One and Justifie the other Here is Foul-Play on some side By some Modern Accounts it is hard to distinguish wherein the Doctrines of the Ch. of England and those of the Quakers do differ Particularly in their Fundamental Principle of The Light within on which all the Rest do Depend as it is Explained by Mr. Penn in his late Primitive Christianity and in The Snake Sect. i. and Sect. xxii except the Particular hereafter excepted they are the same and Mr. Penn asks no more upon the Main than what is not only Allowed but Practised and always has been and that Dayly in our Common Prayers by the Ch. of England yes and by our Dissenters too so that now we are very Good Friends again And the Difference betwixt us upon this Point is no ways sufficient to Justifie any Separation And so of the other Points of Doctrine as of late Explained And for the Sacraments G. Whitehead allows them to be Lawful and let such Practice them as so think fit Then ther is no ground for their Separation from us for our Practice of what themselves Allow to be Lawful And for Episcopacy that is a matter of Government not of Worship so that we might join in Worship for all that And the Bishops Exercise no other Power than what is used amongst the Quakers to Disown those who will not walk according to the Rules of the Society And their Power herein is much Curbed by the Laws and Appeals lye from their Sentence to the Secular Courts which are not Allowed in the Quaker-Discipline Now to bring this matter to an Issue in a Friendly manner without Ripping up or Confronting Former Testimonies it is desired That Mr. Penn or any other for him would shew such Differences betwixt his Explanation of the Light within and that in The Snake as are so Material to justifie a Separation and so of the other Points Treated of in his Primitive Christianity And herein let him and them Consider the Grievousness of the Sin of Schism even as Enforced by them against their own Separatists it is a Tearing the Body of Christ in pieces and turning the Heaven of Christianity into a Hell of Confusion Let us Act herein Manfully for we Fight for our own Souls the Vnion and Joy of Christendom the Honour of Religion and the Glory of God who knows our Hearts and will Reward our Sincerity He through whose Holy Inspiration only we think those things that be Rightful Prevent us in all our Doings with His most Gracious Favour Further us with His Continual Help and Pardon all our Infirmities in the Prosecution of these Glorious Ends through Jesus Christ our Lord who for these same Ends Dyed Rose Ascended and will come again in that same Body to Reward and to Judge every Man according to what he has been Vseful or Prejudicial to these Ends. To whom with the Father and the Eternal Spirit be All Power Honour and Glory from All Creatures Converted Sinners especially now and for ever Amen A Friendly Expostulation with Mr. Penn upon Account of his Primitive Christianity lately Published 1. I Have said before how near Mr. Penn has brought the Quaker Principles as he has of late Represented them to the Doctrin of the Ch. of England and the Common Principles of Christianity But I would desire to Expostulate a little with him upon one Part of his Exposition of The Light within p. 29. where he is not satisfied with what we allow viz. that it does Influence and Assist our Natural Light but he will not grant that we have any Natural Light at all or any other than that Divine Light of the Word which is God which he says some mistakenly call Natural Light As G. Fox says in his Great Mistery p. 42. where he opposes this Tenet That no man by that Native Light inherent in him had Power to Believe c. G. F. Answers The Light that doth enlighten every man which is their description of the Light within he calls it Native and Inherent The names he gives of Native and Inherent are his own out of the Truth Here he denys any Natural Light and will have none other but the Divine Light within But to go on with Mr. Penn he says p. 30. and 31. That the Scripture makes no distinction between Natural and Spiritual Light and Provokes any to give so much as one Text to that Purpose he makes it as Absurd as to talk of a Natural and Spiritual Darkness within He says There are not two Lights from God in man that Regard Religion Not that Reproves or Condemns a Man for Sin But how