be_v not_o against_o christ_n own_o person_n but_o against_o the_o sin_n which_o by_o his_o office_n in_o his_o own_o person_n he_o sustain_v the_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n whereof_o touch_v his_o very_a person_n 2._o their_o punishment_n be_v partly_o in_o this_o life_n and_o partly_o eternal_a in_o the_o life_n to_o come_v but_o christ_n be_v temporary_a and_o only_a in_o this_o life_n 3._o their_o sin_n be_v inherent_a not_o forgive_v and_o just_o punish_v they_o have_v all_o the_o property_n and_o concomitant_n of_o sin_n inherent_a never_o forgive_v but_o in_o wrap_v in_o eternal_a punishment_n as_o these_o desperation_n the_o sting_n of_o conscience_n induration_n rejection_n malediction_n dereliction_n etc._n etc._n but_o in_o christ_n where_o no_o sin_n be_v inhaerent_a nor_o eternal_o punish_v there_o can_v utter_o be_v none_o of_o these_o 4._o they_o be_v pumish_v here_o &_o chief_o in_o hell_n the_o proper_a place_n of_o the_o damn_a hereafter_o but_o christ_n suffer_v only_o here_o in_o this_o life_n last_o their_o torment_n though_o everlasting_a deserve_v nothing_o at_o god_n hand_n but_o christ_n though_o suffer_v but_o for_o a_o while_n deserve_v infinite_o favour_n and_o grace_n for_o they_o for_o who_o he_o suffer_v howbeit_o as_o i_o say_v the_o suffering_n of_o the_o damn_a be_v all_o one_o with_o christ_n same_o how_o the_o suffering_n of_o châ—â—â—â—_n and_o of_o thâ—â—â—_n damn_a 〈◊〉_d the_o same_o as_o touch_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o punishment_n and_o as_o touch_v the_o chief_a cause_n thereof_o first_o god_n himself_o be_v the_o proper_a and_o principal_a ordayner_n author_n and_o executor_n of_o his_o punishment_n god_n own_o hand_n do_v it_o to_o christ_n no_o less_o then_o to_o the_o damn_a sec_n christ_n have_v most_o horrible_a sin_n impute_v to_o he_o as_o the_o damn_a have_v also_o therefore_o he_o suffer_v for_o they_o from_o god_n hand_n even_o as_o the_o damn_a do_v namely_o in_o these_o point_n which_o be_v both_o possible_a and_o reasonable_a that_o be_v pain_n inflict_v immediate_o and_o proper_o in_o the_o soul_n and_o not_o only_o by_o outward_a mean_n in_o the_o body_n for_o it_o be_v most_o reasonable_a and_o possible_a that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n shall_v have_v our_o sin_n impute_v to_o it_o yea_o principal_o to_o it_o and_o not_o to_o the_o body_n only_o even_o as_o we_o commit_v sin_n in_o our_o whole_a manhood_n but_o yet_o principal_o in_o &_o by_o our_o soul_n which_o be_v true_a that_o christ_n reasonable_a soul_n have_v sin_n impute_v principal_o to_o it_o according_a to_o that_o of_o the_o prophet_n he_o make_v his_o soul_n sin_n 53.10_o isa_n 53.10_o therefore_o his_o soul_n principal_o &_o peculiar_o do_v suffer_v for_o it_o also_o his_o soul_n by_o nature_n be_v capable_a of_o suffer_v from_o god_n very_a hand_n &_o a_o occasion_n now_o serve_v thereunto_o because_o of_o all_o our_o sin_n whole_o impute_v to_o he_o last_o god_n himself_o stand_v now_o dispose_v to_o punish_v and_o revenge_v sin_n in_o he_o so_o far_o as_o he_o be_v capable_a thereof_o therefore_o his_o punishment_n for_o that_o sin_n be_v a_o true_a proper_a &_o full_a punishment_n as_o they_o be_v namely_o as_o touch_v mere_a pain_n and_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n justice_n and_o vengeance_n as_o well_o on_o his_o soul_n as_o on_o his_o body_n &_o thus_o for_o the_o time_n it_o be_v even_o like_a as_o the_o suffering_n of_o the_o damn_a be_v 53.134_o â—a_n 53.134_o for_o *_o continuance_n of_o time_n in_o pain_n be_v not_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o hell_n pain_n or_o of_o god_n wrath_n 341._o pag._n 341._o nor_o yet_o to_o be_v in_o hell_n local_o as_o you_o wrong_o imagine_v but_o mere_a circumstance_n there_o of_o only_o thus_o the_o very_a nature_n of_o punishment_n for_o sin_n be_v but_o the_o feel_n of_o extreme_a pain_n from_o god_n hand_n whether_o for_o a_o time_n or_o for_o ever_o whether_o local_o in_o hell_n or_o ell_n where_o that_o neither_o alter_v nor_o lessen_v the_o present_a pain_n which_o god_n own_o infinite_a wrathful_a power_n &_o justice_n can_v inflict_v for_o satisfaction_n where_o and_o how_o it_o please_v he_o these_o pain_n then_o to_o this_o end_n and_o in_o this_o very_a manner_n inflict_v christ_n feel_v indeed_o not_o be_v in_o the_o local_a hell_n yet_o those_o be_v as_o we_o see_v the_o self_n same_o pain_n for_o their_o nature_n which_o be_v in_o hell_n 247._o â—ag_n 247._o yea_o which_o be_v *_o sharp_a in_o hell_n and_o he_o discern_v and_o receive_v they_o proper_o yea_o only_o in_o his_o very_a soul_n as_o then_o be_v manefe_a when_o his_o body_n be_v so_o bruise_v with_o sorrow_n and_o suffering_n yet_o none_o at_o all_o then_o touch_v he_o without_o that_o there_o strain_a out_o from_o he_o much_o sweat_n of_o clot_a blood_n etc._n etc._n these_o thing_n be_v thus_o now_o let_v we_o see_v wherein_o you_o agree_v with_o we_o 248._o 〈◊〉_d 248._o and_o wherein_o you_o disagree_v we_o all_o agree_v in_o term_n that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o soul_n god_n wrath_n howbeit_o touch_v the_o sense_n we_o disagree_v in_o 2._o main_a point_n qâ—â—â—_n the_o iâ—â—â—_n the_o qâ—â—â—_n i_o affirm_v that_o christ_n suffer_v god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n you_o mean_v he_o suffer_v only_o such_o affliction_n as_o other_o godly_a man_n do_v suffer_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o cruel_a world_n for_o 1â—_n for_o pa._n 1â—_n you_o think_v all_o affliction_n whatsoever_o small_a or_o great_a &_o towards_o whosoever_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath._n but_o that_o be_v not_o so_o except_o in_o a_o most_o unproper_a speech_n to_o the_o godly_a their_o affliction_n both_o small_a and_o great_a be_v god_n fatherly_a and_o gracious_a chastisement_n and_o no_o effect_n of_o his_o proper_a wrath_n as_o shall_v appear_v further_o hereafter_o howbeit_o you_o must_v observe_v here_o my_o 3._o limitation_n which_o i_o set_v down_o in_o the_o beforâ—_n the_o beforâ—_n quaestion_a 1._o i_o mean_v he_o suffer_v only_o that_o proper_a wrath_n of_o god_n which_o be_v mere_o punishment_n for_o sin_n and_o no_o sin_n 2._o this_o also_o he_o suffer_v as_o touch_v the_o substance_n and_o nature_n of_o the_o pain_n not_o as_o touch_v the_o circumstance_n either_o of_o of_o place_n or_o continuance_n etc._n etc._n 3._o i_o mean_v he_o suffer_v not_o every_o particular_a punishment_n of_o sin_n nor_o that_o which_o every_o particular_a sinner_n meet_v with_o all_o but_o the_o general_n curse_v and_o punishment_n of_o god_n for_o sin_n namely_o that_o which_o belong_v in_o god_n justice_n to_o all_o man_n in_o common_a and_o generally_n who_o abide_v in_o sin_n now_o after_o these_o necessary_a limitation_n the_o main_a point_n wherein_o we_o further_o disagree_v be_v this_o i_o affirm_v that_o christ_n suffer_v all_o god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n for_o sin_n namely_o so_o describe_v and_o limit_v as_o be_v above_o say_v i_o say_v all_o that_o which_o the_o very_a damn_a do_v suffer_v christ_n thus_o do_v suffer_v for_o we_o and_o therefore_o even_o a_o proper_a and_o immediate_a sense_n in_o his_o soul_n of_o god_n proper_a &_o most_o painful_a wrath_n his_o infinite_a and_o untolerable_a burn_a wrath._n which_o what_o tongue_n be_v it_o that_o can_v express_v or_o heart_n conceive_v yet_o christ_n humane_a soul_n be_v apt_a and_o able_a to_o feel_v it_o though_o not_o to_o sustain_v it_o a_o just_a occasion_n in_o he_o be_v offer_v thereunto_o for_o than_o he_o stand_v forth_o as_o the_o only_a and_o absolute_a ransompayer_n of_o all_o our_o debt_n and_o god_n unpartial_a justice_n dispense_v not_o without_o necessity_n yea_o where_o he_o come_v to_o punish_v he_o lay_v it_o on_o find_v sin_n unsatisfied_a as_o he_o do_v inhaerent_a in_o the_o wicked_a and_o as_o he_o do_v impute_v in_o christ_n our_o surety_n till_o he_o have_v by_o â—â—_o by_o heb_fw-mi â—â—_o suffering_n accomplish_v &_o finish_v perfect_o his_o redemption_n for_o us._n hiâ—_n your_o aâ—â—_n on_o wâ—â—â—â—gain_o saâ—â—_n christ_n â—â—red_v iâ—â—â—_n only_a 〈◊〉_d from_o hiâ—_n but_o this_o be_v far_o great_a than_o as_o you_o hold_v that_o he_o suffer_v no_o more_o but_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n that_o be_v in_o his_o soul_n by_o &_o from_o his_o body_n this_o be_v your_o drift_n every_o where_o but_o i_o note_v these_o express_a place_n 16._o â—â—g_v 16._o *_o sin_n which_o shall_v have_v wrought_v in_o we_o a_o eternal_a destruction_n both_o of_o body_n and_o soul_n can_v not_o far_o prevail_v in_o he_o but_o to_o the_o wound_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o shed_v of_o his_o blood_n for_o the_o just_a &_o full_a satisfaction_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n even_o in_o the_o righteous_a and_o sincere_a judgement_n of_o god_n likewise_o your_o general_a title_n be_v the_o full_a redemtion_n of_o mankind_n
his_o mere_a bodily_a death_n which_o he_o so_o woeful_o and_o impotent_o fear_v as_o i_o have_v before_o sufficient_o confirm_v therefore_o it_o be_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n the_o 2._o death_n which_o here_o be_v understand_v to_o have_v thus_o mighty_o afflict_a christ_n which_o also_o your_o own_o self_n do_v â—â—_o do_v pag._n â—â—_o full_o grant_v and_o affirm_v with_o i_o yea_o you_o affirm_v further_o than_o we_o do_v or_o then_o the_o truth_n be_v or_o possible_o can_v be_v you_o say_v christ_n here_o thus_o fear_v eternal_a death_n and_o everlasting_a damnation_n what_o a_o speech_n be_v this_o christ_n can_v not_o possible_o fear_v in_o such_o woeful_a manner_n that_o which_o he_o perfect_o know_v shall_v never_o come_v near_o he_o but_o he_o perfect_o know_v that_o eternal_a death_n and_o the_o cup_n of_o god_n everlasting_a malediction_n shall_v never_o touch_v he_o he_o know_v and_o see_v that_o this_o by_o god_n almighty_a and_o unchangeable_a decree_n be_v set_v 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death_n of_o the_o soul_n for_o he_o can_v not_o i_o say_v thus_o â—â—â—don_n thus_o much_o yield_v to_o iâ—_n he_o do_v sâ—â—ing_n thy_o â—â—â—don_n fear_v but_o he_o must_v needs_o know_v that_o it_o be_v to_o come_v or_o may_v come_v unto_o he_o 131.132_o â—wed_a furâ—â—_n before_o 131.132_o if_o he_o but_o know_v that_o it_o may_v come_v than_o it_o *_o certain_o do_v come_v unto_o he_o at_o one_o time_n or_o other_o in_o his_o passion_n before_o heâ—_n leave_v the_o world_n see_v to_o the_o hebr._n g_o christ_n abolish_v through_o death_n he_o that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o death_n that_o be_v the_o devil_n and_o so_o deliver_v all_o they_o which_o for_o fear_n of_o death_n be_v all_o their_o life_n time_n subject_a to_o bondage_n 2.14_o â—â—b_fw-la 2.14_o here_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n but_o that_o the_o apostle_n by_o â—his_n often_o repeat_v of_o death_n and_o by_o mutual_a refer_v of_o it_o in_o one_o place_n as_o it_o be_v to_o the_o other_o do_v understand_v &_o signify_v one_o and_o the_o same_o death_n altogether_o but_o it_o be_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o the_o devil_n have_v the_o power_n and_o execution_n of_o also_o the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n chief_o sinful_a man_n be_v hold_v in_o fear_n of_o all_o their_o life_n long_o it_o follow_v then_o i_o suppose_v that_o even_o through_o this_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n christ_n abolish_v the_o devil_n and_o delivete_v his_o child_n special_o see_v there_o be_v no_o enormity_n nor_o impossibility_n herein_o against_o this_o you_o have_v no_o reason_n at_o all_o but_o word_n and_o wrest_n and_o vain_a ostentation_n of_o father_n none_o of_o they_o all_o deny_v our_o sense_n third_z it_o seem_v also_o that_o peter_n teach_v this_o same_o 3.18_o pet._n 3.18_o say_v k_n christ_n in_o his_o suffering_n be_v do_v to_o death_n in_o the_o flesh_n but_o make_v alive_a by_o the_o spirit_n where_o death_n may_v be_v very_o well_o refer_v both_o to_o the_o soul_n and_o body_n of_o christ_n because_o the_o text_n here_o speak_v as_o i_o judge_v of_o the_o whole_a and_o entire_a suffering_n of_o christ_n and_o it_o be_v manifest_a by_o that_o before_o that_o christ_n do_v suffer_v not_o in_o his_o body_n only_o but_o proper_o and_o immediate_o also_o in_o his_o soul_n we_o have_v see_v also_o that_o the_o *_o phrase_n of_o death_n 135.136_o 〈◊〉_d 135.136_o or_o die_v may_v in_o a_o good_a sense_n be_v apply_v even_o to_o christ_n soul_n again_o this_o word_n flesh_n it_o seem_v can_v not_o here_o in_o this_o place_n be_v understand_v to_o signify_v only_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o even_o both_o part_n of_o his_o humane_a nature_n thar_z be_v the_o reasonable_a soul_n and_o the_o body_n my_o reason_n be_v because_o wheresoever_o in_o scripture_n the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n be_v note_v opposit_o together_o in_o christ_n 320._o â—â—m_fw-la 1.3_o 4._o â—im_n 3.16_o â—oh_o 4.2_o 〈◊〉_d 1.14_o â—or_a 5.7_o &_o â—4_n &_o 1.4.1_o â—â—g_v 320._o there_o the_o i_o flesh_n signify_v always_o his_o whole_a humanity_n even_o both_o part_n thereof_o the_o soul_n also_o &_o not_o the_o body_n only_o the_o spirit_n signify_v his_o deity_n or_o divine_a power_n now_o what_o have_v you_o against_o this_o nothing_o of_o weight_n but_o flout_n and_o mock_n that_o k_n this_o observation_n be_v make_v out_o of_o the_o hinder_a partâ—_n of_o my_o head_n etc._n etc._n but_o what_o pretend_v you_o against_o it_o some_o scripture_n palpable_o abuse_v first_o matthew_n where_o christ_n speak_v of_o his_o disciple_n that_o their_o spirit_n their_o inward_a regenerate_a man_n be_v ready_a to_o watch_v 26._o â—ath_n 26._o but_o their_o flesh_n their_o corrupt_a nature_n be_v weak_a &_o sluggish_a what_o be_v this_o to_o christ_n flesh_n and_o spirit_n think_v you_o that_o christ_n soul_n be_v willing_a to_o suffer_v as_o god_n have_v appoint_v but_o that_o his_o flesh_n resist_v very_o so_o you_o seem_v here_o to_o understand_v conceit_n a_o untrâ—â—_n conceit_n and_o it_o be_v as_o likely_a as_o your_o apply_v of_o flesh_n and_o spirit_n to_o christ_n in_o your_o pag._n 104._o then_o 2._o then_o luk._n 2._o luke_n where_o both_o spirit_n and_o flesh_n be_v not_o intend_v of_o christ_n as_o our_o observation_n before_o require_v but_o only_o the_o flesh_n then_o the_o roman_n where_o i_o affirm_v that_o rom._n that_o rom._n flesh_n signify_v the_o whole_a manhood_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o the_o which_o he_o come_v from_o david_n even_o as_o well_o as_o solomon_n or_o nathan_n do_v who_o be_v david_n son_n in_o their_o entire_a and_o perfect_a nature_n so_o likewise_o christ_n be_v kin_n to_o the_o jew_n according_a to_o his_o 9_o his_o rom._n 9_o whole_a humanity_n aswell_o as_o 3._o as_o ver_fw-la 3._o paul_n be_v and_o here_o paul_n mean_v himself_o to_o be_v kin_n to_o they_o according_a to_o nature_n whole_o &_o that_o only_o by_o regeneration_n in_o the_o gospel_n he_o be_v differ_v from_o they_o now_o nature_n oppose_v to_o grace_n and_o regeneration_n have_v reference_n both_o to_o soul_n and_o body_n in_o a_o man_n howsoever_o the_o soul_n come_v in_o generation_n that_o be_v not_o here_o consider_v neither_o be_v it_o necessary_o to_o the_o purpose_n which_o difficulty_n also_o yourself_o have_v utter_o 2d_o utter_o pag._n 2d_o renounce_v before_o to_o make_v it_o any_o argument_n for_o you_o in_o this_o matter_n thus_o yet_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n thus_o oppose_v here_o in_o christ_n shall_v signify_v the_o whole_a manhood_n and_o godhead_n in_o he_o further_o that_o which_o 32_o which_o pa._n 32_o you_o bring_v out_o of_o the_o corâ—_n the_o 2._o corâ—_n corinthian_n compare_v with_o this_o in_o peter_n do_v most_o fit_o and_o clear_o open_a and_o confirm_v the_o
same_o he_o be_v crucify_v touch_v his_o infirmity_n but_o live_v by_o the_o power_n of_o god_n his_o infirmity_n the_o text_n here_o name_v metonimical_o understand_v in_o christ_n that_o in_o which_o his_o infirmity_n be_v now_o his_o soul_n have_v infirmity_n of_o suffer_v in_o it_o as_o well_o as_o his_o body_n therefore_o his_o soul_n also_o be_v understand_v here_o that_o it_o be_v crucify_a and_o dye_v that_o be_v according_a to_o the_o condition_n thereof_o as_o likewise_o his_o body_n according_a to_o the_o condition_n thereof_o and_o thus_o that_o which_o paul_n call_v infirmity_n peter_n call_v flesh_n and_o that_o which_o paul_n call_v the_o power_n of_o god_n peter_n call_v the_o spirit_n that_o be_v his_o deity_n be_v set_v opposit_o in_o both_o these_o place_n to_o his_o whole_a humanity_n even_o to_o body_n and_o soul_n 4.13_o aug._n the_o 4.13_o to_o which_o purpose_n that_o place_n also_o to_o the_o rom._n the_o rom._n roman_n do_v serve_v where_o the_o like_a opposition_n be_v find_v as_o i_o have_v show_v between_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n in_o christ_n that_o be_v his_o manhood_n and_o godhead_n other_o reason_n also_o 1â—_n also_o treat_v 137_o 1â—_n i_o have_v note_v serve_v well_o hereunto_o as_o the_o 4_o 5_o and_o 6._o but_o i_o omit_v to_o rehearse_v they_o again_o for_o it_o seem_v yourself_o agree_v with_o we_o in_o they_o 324._o â—â—g_v 324._o hold_v a_o express_o that_o the_o spirit_n here_o in_o peter_n be_v the_o deity_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o augustine_n judgement_n now_o this_o be_v grant_v and_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o spirit_n here_o signify_v christ_n godhead_n how_o can_v it_o be_v likely_a but_o that_o the_o other_o opposite_a part_n the_o flesh_n must_v needs_o import_v his_o whole_a and_o entire_a manhood_n very_o thus_o it_o seem_v most_o plain_a that_o peter_n here_o distribute_v the_o whole_a and_o absolute_a person_n both_o god_n and_o man_n into_o these_o nature_n the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n wherefore_o i_o can_v not_o think_v but_o that_o the_o apostle_n here_o understand_v by_o flesh_n the_o whole_a and_o entire_a manhood_n of_o christ_n even_o his_o soul_n and_o his_o body_n now_o this_o be_v so_o than_o it_o follow_v by_o the_o text_n that_o christ_n in_o his_o passion_n be_v do_v to_o death_n both_o in_o soul_n 320._o pag._n 320._o &_o body_n here_n you_o object_n that_o thus_o i_o make_v all_o the_o attribute_n of_o the_o body_n common_a to_o the_o soul_n nay_o forsooth_o that_o i_o do_v not_o nor_o yet_o this_o attribute_n of_o die_v understand_v in_o such_o sort_n and_o manner_n as_o the_o body_n proper_o die_v that_o be_v to_o become_v without_o life_n and_o sense_n i_o ascribe_v death_n to_o both_o but_o yet_o according_a to_o the_o divers_a condition_n and_o state_n of_o both_o 78._o â—reat_a 1._o pâ—g_v 78._o and_o thus_o you_o may_v understand_v my_o b_o meaning_n to_o be_v where_o i_o say_v it_o be_v absurd_a &_o false_a that_o christ_n be_v make_v alive_a in_o his_o humane_a soul_n that_o be_v it_o neither_o lose_v nor_o recover_v life_n and_o sense_n so_o as_o his_o body_n do_v 136_o â—â—â—e_z before_o 〈◊〉_d 135_o 136_o howbeit_o as_o death_n be_v oftentimes_o attribute_v to_o man_n soul_n in_o the_o c_o scripture_n that_o be_v the_o feel_n of_o the_o extreme_a wrath_n of_o god_n and_o the_o punishment_n for_o sin_n so_o do_v i_o make_v death_n common_a both_o to_o christ_n soul_n and_o body_n 79._o â—â—eat_a 1._o â—â—g_n 79._o even_o to_o his_o whole_a and_o entire_a humane_a nature_n which_o if_o you_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o shame_n of_o ab_fw-la surditirie_n and_o contrariety_n which_o in_o your_o fancy_n e_o you_o accuse_v i_o of_o that_o christ_n soul_n die_v and_o die_v not_o â—â—3_n â—â—g_v 322._o â—â—3_n will_v sit_v near_o to_o you_o they_o to_o i_o also_o in_o such_o a_o sense_n i_o deny_v not_o but_o christ_n may_v be_v say_v that_o he_o be_v quicken_v in_o the_o spirit_n that_o be_v refresh_v and_o comfort_v 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soul_n in_o he_o viz._n that_o he_o suffer_v it_o not_o ordinary_o after_o the_o manner_n of_o other_o man_n nor_o any_o way_n local_o hâ—_n have_v no_o necessary_a cause_n to_o speak_v of_o the_o 2._o sense_n thereof_o how_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v say_v to_o suffer_v death_n extraordinary_o for_o sin_n impute_v only_o neither_o do_v he_o speak_v against_o that_o in_o christ_n nay_o according_a to_o augustine_n own_o definition_n of_o the_o soul_n die_v it_o will_v easy_o appear_v that_o christ_n soul_n may_v be_v say_v to_o have_v suffer_v some_o kind_n of_o death_n 4._o de_fw-fr verh_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d ser_n â—0_n 〈◊〉_d trin._n 4._o say_v he_o a_o moritur_fw-la anima_fw-la si_fw-la recedit_fw-la deus_fw-la and_o b_o mors_fw-la est_fw-la spiritûs_fw-la deseri_fw-la à _fw-la
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his_o soul_n and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o de_fw-fr incaâ—â—_n sacr._n cap._n 〈◊〉_d hoc_fw-la in_o se_fw-la obtulit_fw-la christus_fw-la quod_fw-la induit_fw-la etc._n etc._n christ_n offer_v in_o sacrifice_n all_o that_o which_o he_o assume_v that_o be_v all_o &_o every_o whit_n that_o be_v in_o he_o beside_o his_o godhead_n 3._o godhead_n fulgent_n 〈◊〉_d thrasym_a 〈◊〉_d lib._n 3._o fulgentius_n he_o show_v in_o himself_o the_o suffering_n of_o a_o whole_a man_n in_o verity_n &_o truth_n quicquid_fw-la fuit_fw-la infirmitatis_fw-la animae_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la suscepit_fw-la &_o pertulit_fw-la he_o take_v upon_o he_o and_o suffer_v whatsoever_o infirmity_n may_v be_v in_o the_o soul_n without_o sin_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o we_o ourselves_o shall_v speak_v a_o more_o effectual_a sentence_n for_o our_o purpose_n then_o this_o be_v say_v as_o fulgentius_n here_o say_v and_o we_o ask_v no_o more_o all_o that_o 86._o that_o pag._n 86._o you_o except_v that_o by_o these_o father_n 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you_o mean_v not_o thus_o 5.23_o 〈◊〉_d the._n 5.23_o than_o you_o again_o use_v sophistry_n deceive_v we_o with_o the_o word_n soul_n for_o we_o mean_v thereby_o in_o this_o question_n only_o the_o spirit_n or_o mind_n as_o it_o be_v also_o call_v in_o exact_a and_o distinct_a speech_n howbeit_o speak_v vulgar_o and_o ordinary_o we_o call_v it_o the_o soul_n which_o yet_o sometime_o be_v understand_v only_o for_o the_o sensitive_a part_n quicken_a the_o body_n and_o depend_v thereon_o but_o this_o indeed_o be_v not_o it_o which_o we_o have_v here_o in_o quaestion_n if_o you_o mean_v in_o soul_n to_o be_v proper_o and_o immediate_o in_o his_o immortal_a spirit_n as_o the_o ordinary_a phrase_n intend_v and_o that_o so_o he_o suffer_v direct_o punishment_n for_o sin_n in_o his_o soul_n &_o not_o devotion_n &_o piety_n &_o zealous_a care_n only_o as_o i_o doubt_v e_o you_o mean_v than_o you_o differ_v not_o from_o we_o 18._o 〈◊〉_d observe_v 〈◊〉_d 18._o but_o we_o all_o agree_v and_o thus_o 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f_z you_o object_n but_o consent_v with_o irenaeus_n before_o and_o with_o other_o after_o he_o as_o shall_v appear_v 188._o 〈◊〉_d innius_n 〈◊〉_d on_o this_o chap._n 188._o who_o be_v no_o montanist_n notwithstanding_o it_o be_v true_a that_o somewhere_o he_o take_v inferos_fw-la pro_fw-la locali_fw-la determinatione_fw-la as_o he_o speak_v for_o the_o peculiar_a and_o determinat_fw-la place_n of_o the_o wicked_a decease_a that_o be_v hell_n strict_o and_o proper_o 4._o 〈◊〉_d 4._o thus_o he_o do_v in_o that_o g_o against_o martion_n with_o you_o cite_v pag._n 201._o also_o in_o that_o h_o objection_n of_o certain_a haeretike_n who_o he_o confute_v 55._o 〈◊〉_d anima_fw-la 55._o not_o the_o true_a christian_n as_o i_o you_o k_n misconceive_v they_o argue_v thus_o as_o you_o do_v in_o hoc_fw-la christus_fw-la jnfiros_fw-la adiit_fw-la ne_fw-la nos_fw-la adiremus_fw-la edition_n 188._o 〈◊〉_d title_n of_o â—ooke_n in_o â—â—â—elius_a &_o â—â—â—s_a edition_n christ_n therefore_o go_v to_o hell_n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o may_v never_o come_v there_o he_o answer_v they_o that_o it_o be_v false_a that_o christ_n go_v to_o jnferos_fw-la in_o that_o sense_n that_o be_v to_o hell_n for_o than_o what_o difference_n be_v there_o between_o the_o wicked_a heathen_n and_o the_o godly_a christian_n if_o one_o &_o the_o same_o prison_n after_o death_n be_v for_o they_o both_o take_v it_o for_o a_o thing_n general_o grant_v in_o the_o church_n that_o christ_n be_v dead_a go_v only_o thither_o where_o the_o godly_a dead_a be_v and_o therefore_o that_o it_o be_v a_o wicked_a and_o haereticall_a thing_n to_o think_v he_o go_v where_o the_o damn_a be_v that_o be_v into_o hell_n and_o so_o he_o quite_o overthrow_v your_o opinion_n together_o with_o the_o reason_n thereof_o as_o a_o opinion_n which_o if_o any_o hold_v they_o be_v ill_o think_v of_o in_o those_o day_n 33._o 〈◊〉_d 99_o de_fw-fr â—â—â—es_fw-fr ad_fw-la lit_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 33._o thus_o also_o be_v augustin_n well_n l_o understand_v where_o he_o deny_v that_o the_o patriarch_n be_v apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la in_o hell_n namely_o the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a because_o they_o be_v in_o abrahaâ—s_n bosom_n which_o yet_o 20.15_o yet_o epist_n 5â—_n de_fw-fr civi_fw-la â—_o 20.15_o elsewhere_o he_o grant_v unto_o that_o they_o may_v be_v apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la in_o the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a &_o namely_o where_o the_o godly_a dead_a shall_v be_v so_o that_o thus_o if_o you_o have_v but_o distinguish_v these_o and_o other_o father_n like_o word_n as_o you_o ought_v to_o have_v do_v there_o need_v no_o such_o folly_n of_o contradiction_n to_o be_v impute_v unto_o they_o as_o 204_o as_o pag._n 18â—_n 200._o 204_o you_o do_v lay_v to_o their_o charge_n in_o this_o point_n altogether_o undeserved_o which_o be_v well_o observe_v you_o shall_v see_v that_o all_o the_o father_n as_o mr_n junius_n say_v both_o greek_a &_o latin_a do_v take_v hades_n and_o inferos_fw-la promisâ—â—_n inferos_fw-la 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well_o as_o his_o body_n to_o come_v to_o the_o grave_a servaâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d koinoâ—â—â—â—ôpos_n â—â—â—em_fw-la morâ—â—â—_n servaâ—â—_n that_o right_a well_o prove_v he_o in_o deed_n to_o have_v be_v a_o true_a man_n and_o whole_o in_o nature_n like_o all_o other_o man_n also_o this_o be_v indeed_o the_o law_n of_o humane_a necessity_n after_o the_o like_a phrase_n as_o a_o justin_n same_o â—â—â—gi_fw-la satisfaâ—â—â—_n forma_fw-la huâ—â—â—_n mortis_fw-la â—â—â—us_fw-la â—ag_n 157._o â—efore_o 〈◊〉_d death_n &_o â—â—es_n aâ—e_v uâ—â—â—or_n the_o same_o b_o irenaeus_n and_o c_o tertullian_n also_o speak_v but_o not_o to_o go_v to_o hell_n now_o this_o death_n proper_o belong_v to_o the_o body_n of_o man_n d_o as_o it_o be_v leave_v without_o life_n also_o no_o less_o proper_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o whole_a person_n of_o man_n as_o it_o be_v dissolve_v and_o destroy_v thereby_o three_o by_o consequence_n it_o belong_v to_o both_o the_o dissolve_a part_n yea_o even_o to_o the_o immortal_a 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perhaps_o when_o it_o come_v into_o the_o common_a creed_n they_o signify_v hereby_o christ_n go_v to_o limbus_n which_o opinion_n indeed_o man_n general_o incline_v unto_o though_o erroneous_o for_o many_o year_n yet_o that_o the_o ancient_n put_v this_o descend_v to_o hade_n meaning_n limbus_n or_o howsoever_o into_o the_o vulgar_a creed_n distinct_o from_o both_o the_o other_o foresay_a clause_n i_o believe_v not_o the_o contrary_n be_v prove_v afterwards_o as_o anon_o we_o shall_v see_v but_o to_o proceed_v here_o 413.414_o â—â—rys_n hom._n civet_n &_o the_o 〈◊〉_d bol_n tom._n in_o 1._o cor._n hom._n 40._o â—â—â—asil_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 48._o â—â—â—mbr_n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d mort_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 10._o â—â—â—rom_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 1â—_n 14_o mcguffin_n in_o â—â—â—bol_n 〈◊〉_d 413.414_o c_o chrysostom_n and_o d_o basill_n likewise_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o greek_n may_v be_v note_v how_o they_o yield_v hades_n to_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o just_a man_n decease_v remain_v in_o joy_n also_o ambrose_n
be_v to_o be_v consider_v who_o right_o according_a to_o all_o the_o rest_n say_v e_z soul_n depart_v from_o their_o body_n do_v go_v to_o hades_n that_o be_v to_o a_o invisible_a place_n which_o in_o latin_a we_o call_v infernum_fw-la and_o jerome_n f_z infernus_fw-la be_v a_o place_n where_o the_o soul_n be_v include_v either_o in_o rest_n or_o pain_n and_o ruffinus_n upon_o g_o descendit_fw-la ad_fw-la inferna_fw-la give_v this_o sense_n descendit_n in_o mortem_fw-la he_o submit_v unto_o death_n all_o the_o rest_n which_o h_o you_o cite_v or_o can_v cite_v have_v nothing_o contrary_a but_o rather_o consent_v herewith_o so_o that_o it_o be_v certain_a by_o all_o the_o father_n general_o 1._o that_o hades_n and_o sheol_n be_v take_v for_o death_n noâ—â—_n noâ—â—_n the_o common_a state_n of_o death_n or_o the_o invisible_a world_n of_o the_o dead_a common_a to_o the_o soul_n both_o of_o good_a and_o bad_a though_o their_o particular_a place_n be_v far_o separat_fw-la and_o distinct_a 2._o that_o christ_n go_v not_o into_o hell_n the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a as_o you_o hold_v but_o to_o the_o habitation_n of_o the_o bless_a decease_a call_v also_o by_o they_o abraham_n bosom_n which_o we_o know_v and_o you_o also_o be_v indeed_o heaven_n according_a to_o that_o word_n of_o christ_n 16._o christ_n joh._n 16_o 16._o i_o leave_v the_o world_n and_o go_v to_o the_o father_n which_o i_o have_v prove_v further_o before_o pag._n 149._o 150._o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o err_v general_o as_o 21_o as_o pag._n 21_o yourself_o also_o hold_v in_o think_v that_o this_o habitation_n of_o the_o bless_a soul_n be_v beneath_o in_o the_o earth_n or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o heaven_n nevertheless_o this_o be_v the_o point_n wherein_o we_o agree_v and_o wherein_o they_o err_v not_o and_o which_o i_o cite_v they_o for_o and_o which_o be_v direct_o against_o you_o that_o hade_n which_o also_o be_v sheol_n belong_v to_o the_o bless_a soul_n decease_v aswell_o as_o to_o the_o damn_a and_o namely_o that_o christ_n go_v to_o hades_n be_v to_o go_v to_o be_v bless_v decease_v which_o in_o latin_a also_o they_o call_v jnfernun_n but_o so_o unproper_o and_o so_o unapt_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o truth_n that_o even_o this_o ill_a term_n sure_o both_o spring_v from_o error_n and_o begin_v in_o they_o their_o error_n or_o confirm_v and_o spread_v far_o this_o error_n now_o thus_o your_o vain_a boast_n of_o 41_o of_o pag._n 41_o all_o the_o father_n be_v but_o a_o bubble_n and_o that_o all_o the_o father_n without_o exception_n do_v touch_n and_o teach_v christ_n local_a descent_n to_o hell_n so_o that_o if_o you_o be_v content_a as_o 41_o as_o pag._n 41_o you_o say_v to_o be_v try_v by_o all_o the_o father_n greek_n and_o latin_a they_o quite_o overthrow_v you_o notwithstanding_o your_o great_a word_n for_o the_o truth_n be_v they_o be_v all_o against_o you_o and_o with_o we_o in_o such_o sort_n as_o i_o say_v only_o austin_n doubt_o and_o waver_o differ_v from_o all_o the_o rest_n who_o somewhere_o seem_v to_o think_v that_o inferi_n can_v be_v attribute_v to_o just_a man_n soul_n depart_v for_o thus_o doubt_o he_o speak_v ca._n speak_v aug_n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la litter_n ca._n illud_fw-la i_o nondum_fw-la invenisse_fw-la confiteor_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o confess_v i_o have_v not_o yet_o find_v that_o inferi_n be_v name_v where_o the_o just_a man_n soul_n be_v at_o peace_n yes_o sure_o the_o ancient_n name_v the_o place_n for_o all_o the_o decease_a both_o good_a &_o bad_a inferos_fw-la like_a as_o they_o name_v where_o both_o wicked_a and_o good_a do_v live_v in_o the_o world_n 137._o world_n arnob._n psal_n 137._o superos_fw-la and_o austin_n if_o he_o have_v mark_v it_o well_o may_v have_v find_v even_o this_o which_o he_o say_v he_o find_v not_o in_o the_o latin_a translation_n of_o the_o scripture_n edit_n scripture_n psa_fw-la 88_o lat._n edit_n quis_fw-la est_fw-la homo_fw-la qui_fw-la vivet_fw-la etc._n etc._n what_o man_n be_v there_o that_o ever_o shall_v live_v and_o shall_v not_o see_v death_n shall_v he_o deliver_v his_o soul_n from_o the_o hand_n of_o inferi_n that_o be_v death_n for_o he_o can_v not_o here_o understand_v inferi_n to_o be_v the_o grave_a because_o then_o the_o soul_n must_v signify_v the_o dead_a body_n which_o a_o you_o say_v be_v more_o than_o absurd_a 168._o â—â—g_v 168._o wherefore_o the_o soul_n here_o be_v take_v proper_o for_o the_o soul_n than_o inferi_n be_v find_v apply_v to_o just_a man_n soul_n decease_v as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o wicked_a which_o augustin_n may_v have_v observe_v 15_o â—pist_v 57_o 〈◊〉_d civet_n dei_fw-la â—_o 15_o yea_o he_o himself_o b_o elsewhere_o grant_v also_o that_o the_o just_a in_o peace_n may_v be_v in_o inferis_fw-la after_o death_n and_o here_o he_o deny_v it_o but_o cold_o &_o waver_o proinde_fw-la ut_fw-la dixi_fw-la nondum_fw-la inveni_fw-la &_o adhuc_fw-la quaero_fw-la nec_fw-la mihi_fw-la occurrit_fw-la inferos_fw-la alicubi_fw-la in_fw-la 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â—â—s_o here_o â—â—g_v 16._o e_o that_o no_o more_o but_o the_o shed_n of_o his_o blood_n only_o and_o mere_o be_v the_o just_a and_o full_a satisfaction_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n even_o in_o the_o righteous_a and_o sincere_a judgement_n of_o god_n then_o we_o absolute_o deny_v your_o assertion_n as_o before_o we_o have_v do_v the_o like_a as_o for_o your_o â—_o your_o 1_o pet._n 1_o rev._n 5._o â—_o allege_v scripture_n we_o answer_v they_o as_o we_o do_v general_o 8.9_o general_o treat_n pag._n 8.9_o before_o that_o they_o mean_v not_o the_o mere_a blood_n of_o christ_n nor_o only_a the_o body_n single_o and_o simple_o consider_v but_o that_o together_o with_o the_o proper_a suffering_n of_o his_o soul_n also_o they_o be_v the_o just_a and_o full_a satisfaction_n and_o redemption_n against_o which_o you_o have_v nothing_o any_o where_o and_o likewise_o our_o advise_v and_o resolut_a answer_n be_v to_o etc._n to_o pag._n 58_o 60_o 61_o 7â—_n etc._n etc._n all_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o 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be_v not_o to_o be_v maintain_v howsoever_o here_o you_o strive_v to_o set_v some_o colour_n upon_o it_o though_o yet_o still_o in_o vain_a before_o we_o depart_v from_o this_o point_n that_o not_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n nor_o his_o flesh_n mere_o and_o only_o without_o respect_n to_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o whole_a soul_n be_v the_o full_a price_n of_o redemption_n here_o be_v fit_a place_n to_o show_v how_o sundry_a of_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v agree_v with_o we_o sufficient_o in_o this_o matter_n although_o afterward_o in_o your_o book_n you_o seem_v to_o bring_v they_o against_o us._n but_o indeed_o so_o they_o seem_v only_o for_o in_o truth_n they_o be_v with_o we_o as_o by_o these_o follow_v we_o may_v see_v first_o 5._o first_o ireâ—_n 5._o irenaeus_n the_o lord_n buy_v we_o with_o his_o own_o blood_n and_o give_v his_o soul_n for_o our_o soul_n &_o his_o flesh_n for_o our_o flesh_n tâ—â—_n flesh_n cyr._n the_o 〈◊〉_d fid_fw-we ad_fw-la tâ—â—_n cyrill_n he_o bestow_v 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experience_n of_o they_o this_o same_o also_o sundry_a of_o the_o father_n avouch_v with_o we_o most_o full_o and_o even_o those_o which_o yourself_o bring_v for_o a_o yourself_o 25._o pag._n 25._o cyrills_n word_n before_o touch_v be_v most_o large_a 10.3_o cyrill_n theâ—â—ur_fw-fr 10.3_o omnia_fw-la christus_fw-la perpessus_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la liberaret_fw-la christ_n thorough_o suffer_v all_o such_o passion_n which_o man_n do_v suffer_v that_o he_o may_v deliver_v we_o from_o all_o â—ature_n humane_a â—ature_n all_o the_o passion_n of_o †_o flesh_n be_v stir_v in_o christ_n yet_o without_o sin_n and_o so_o that_o unless_o he_o have_v dye_v we_o have_v not_o be_v deliver_v from_o death_n unless_o he_o have_v fear_v and_o sorrow_v we_o have_v not_o be_v quit_v from_o fear_n and_o sorrow_n here_o he_o say_v all_o our_o passion_n be_v stir_v in_o christ_n humane_a nature_n even_o so_o far_o as_o we_o be_v cure_v and_o so_o far_o as_o may_v be_v 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herein_o i_o have_v brief_o i_o heerto_o fore_o 131._o â—â—eat_a 1._o â—â—g_n 131._o yet_o i_o hope_v sufficient_o prove_v therefore_o hence_o i_o conclude_v that_o christ_n soul_n after_o his_o death_n ascend_v indeed_o and_o descend_v not_o downward_o beneath_o we_o here_o 2._o only_o except_o there_o be_v some_o special_a reason_n of_o good_a authority_n to_o the_o contrary_a which_o be_v the_o second_o point_n of_o importance_n here_o to_o be_v consider_v touch_v which_o this_o i_o say_v without_o express_v and_o evident_a scripture_n there_o be_v in_o the_o world_n no_o sound_n nor_o meet_v authority_n to_o disprove_v our_o former_a reason_n and_o conclusion_n this_o also_o austin_n himself_o avouch_v well_o and_o faithful_o that_o be_v suppose_v there_o be_v no_o express_v nor_o plain_a scripture_n for_o christ_n descend_v then_o say_v he_o auderet_fw-la he_o epist_n â—_o miror_fw-la si_fw-la quam_fw-la ad_fw-la ros_fw-fr cum_fw-la dâ—_n dissâ—_fw-la assert_v auderet_fw-la it_o 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