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A72513 Peter Ramus, his logick in two bookes. Not onely truely translated into English, but also digested into question and answere, for the more easie understanding of all men. By R.F. Gent; Dialectica. English Ramus, Petrus, 1515-1572.; Fage, Robert. 1636 (1636) STC 15249.7; ESTC S125061 47,136 128

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teach Cap. 14. Relates Q. What are contraries A. Contraries are Opposites whereof one is opposed to one only Q What are the kindes of it A. They are either affirming or denying Q. What is affirming A. Affirming is that of which both of them affirme Q. How many kindes hath it A. Two Relates and Adverses Q. What are Relates A. Relates are Contraries affirming of which one consisteth of the mutuall affection of the other and from hence they are named Relates Q. Make this plaine by example A. The Father who hath a sonne and the sonne who hath a Father are relates Q. They may seeme by this to bee together by nature A. So they are so that he which perfectly knoweth the one knoweth also the rest Q. Give some examples of Relates A. Pro Marc. By which thou truely understandest how much praise there is for the benefit given when as for the receiving is so much glory Marc against Sosib Sosibian thou yeeld'st thou wast borne thrall When flattering thou thy Father Lord dost call So Quint. lib. 5. cap. 10. If it be honest to place himselfe at Rhoades and to lodge at Hirmaereon After which manner Tullius in the perfect oration It is therfore dangerous saith he least any should thinke it dishonestie to teach that in the great and glorious Art to others which it was honestie for him to learne Q. Doth not earnest affection sometimes flow from these Relates A. Yes Q. Give example out of some Orator A. Cicero in his oration hath brought forth a certaine earnest affection from these Relates Now these are grave saith he wife of the Sonne in law step-mother of the Sonne and baude of the daughter Q. Give example out of some Poet A. All this Ovid hath affected manifestly in his description of the Iron age Met. 1. Ne doth the guest safe in his Inne remaine His host him troubles who doth him retaine Sisters ene from their brethren are not free The husband longs the death of 's wife to see She hateth him and gainst him doth conspire The Cursed stepdam's alwayes in an ire The Sonne before his time doth's fathers yeares in quire Q. But the argument of such relations hath nothing contrary yea it rather argueth mutuall causes as thou art my Father I therefore am thy sonne how then appeareth the Contraries A. When I say I am thy father I am not therefore thy Son then are the contraries true CAP. 15. Adverses Q. What are adverses A. Adverses are Contraries affirming which are perpetually adverse among themselves Q. Give example out of some Poet A. Aneid 11. No health in warre we all desire peace Q. Give further example A. White and blacke hot and cold vertue and vice are opposed Q. Give example out of some Orator A. Parad. 1. Cont. Epe Yet they doe hold strongly and defend accurately that pleasure is the cheife good which to me truely doth seeme to be the voyce of beasts not of men whenas whether God or nature as I may say the mother of all things hath given thee a soule then which nothing is more excellent nothing more divine dost thou so cast and throw down thy selfe as that thou thinkest there is no difference betwixt thee and the foure footed beasts Q. Wherein consists the force of this example A. Cicero hath opposed beasts and men Adverses pleasure is the good of beasts and therefore of men Q. Give another example out of some Poet A. So liberty and servitude in Tib. lib. 2. So servitude I see prepared for me Yet parents freedome would farre better be Q. Give example out of an Orator A. Pro Marcell For temerity is never ioyned with wisdome neither is chance admitted to councell CAP. 16. Contradicents Q. Having spoken of contraries affirming we are come to contraries denying what are they then A. Contraries denying are such of which one saith the other denieth the same Q. What are the kindes A. They are Contradicents or Privants Q. What are Contradicents A. Contradicents are Contraries denying of which one denyeth every where Q. Give example A. Iust not iust a creature not acreature it is it is not These are Contradicents Q. Give example out of some Orator A. Pro Murena The sentences of Cato Cicero are Contraries this of the Stoicks that man of the Academicks The Dialogue is in these wordes Thou hast knowne nothing yea something but not all things Thou hast done nothing meerly for thanks yet refuse not thanks when as thine office and trust requireth it Be not moved with mercy in condemning But yet there is some prayse of humanitie Stand in thine owne opinion except a better should overcome Q. Give example from some Poet A. Mart. lib. 2. Th' art faire Fabulla rich and al 's a maid Can you deny t is truth that I have said But if thou boastest of thy selfe too much Th' art neither faire a virgine nor yet rich Q. give another example out of some Orator A. Cicero primo Tusc Forceth Atticus the Epicure by this argument to confesse that the dead were not miserable if they were not at all as the Epicures believe I had rather saith hee thou shouldest feare Cerberus then speak so inconsiderately Atticus why Marcus that that which thou deniest that thou saiest Where is thy wit For when as thou sayest he is miserable thou then sayest he is which is not Then after long disputation Atticus said go to now I grant that those which are dead are not miserable because thou hast forced me to confesse that they be not all lest they should be miserable Q. Give another example A. Terrence in Ev. Phedria frameth his speech to Dorus when as he had affirmed that which he denyed afterwards After a manner saith he he saith after a manner he denyeth CAP. 17. Privants Q. What are Privants A. Privants are contraries denying of which one denieth in the same subiect onely in which the affirmatiue of its owne nature is Q. What is the affirmative called A. The Habit. Q. And what the negative A. Privation Q. Make this playner A. Motion and rest drunkennesse and sobriety are comprised under this head Q. Give example A. Mart. lib. 3. Th' art drunken sure sober thou would'st not do 't Q. What may further be under this head A. To be blind and to see Q. Give example A. Pro Celio There is therefore one of this family and he truely is greatly blinde for hee shall take no griefe who shall not see her Q. What may further be under this head A. Povertie and riches are thus opposed Q. Give example A. Mart. lib. 5. Poore shalt thou be Emilian if poore Wealths never given but to the rich before Q. What further A. Death and life Q. Give example A. Cont. Mil. Sit yee still O revengers of this mans death whose life if you thought you could restore would you Q. What further A. Silence and Speech Q. Give example A. Primo Cat. What expectest thou the authority of the speaker