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A02400 The Romish chaine. By Edmund Gurnay, parson of Harpley Gurnay, Edmund, d. 1648. 1624 (1624) STC 12530; ESTC S121205 26,705 112

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Finally for as much as the Lord hath told vs that many shall come from the East and from the West and sit with Abraham Isaac and Iacob and the children of the Kingdome shall bee cast out as also that whosoeuer heareth his Word and keepeth it the same is his Brother and Sister and Mother and that it should not profit the Iewes for that they had Abraham to their Father Hee telling vs also in the Old Testament by his Prophet that an vngodly Sonne should fare neuer the better for his godly Father nor a godly Sonne any thing the worse for his vngodly Father the course also of the times declaring vnto vs how holy Kings had vnholy Sonns to succeede them and on the contrary as good King Iotham hauing a wicked Sonne Ahaz for his Successour and he a good Son Hezechia for his Successour and hee a wicked Son Manasses for his Successour and hee a good grand-child Iosiah for his Successour and hee a wicked Sonne Iehoahaz for his Successour It may sufficiently resolue a Christian mind how farre it is from the purpose of God that his gifts and graces should goe by succession For though often times a good and godly Father had a good and godly Son to succeed him yet was not that by vertue of Succession but by vertue of Gods grace immediately directing the Son as well as the Father euen as to day may be as faire a day as yesterday and yet not because it succeeds yesterday but because the Sunn shines as immediately vpon it as it did vpon yesterday Finally for a conclusion whosoeuer challengeth Supremacy in the Church by vertue of Succession does plead no lesse then flat contradiction For whosoeuer is Supreame Head of the Church must bee immediate vnto God himselfe But whosoeuer claimeth any thing by vertue of Succession does of necessity imply that there is a person betwixt him and the Lord namely his predecessor from whom his vertue is deriued The next Linke of the Chaine is this that Only the Bishops of Rome were the Successours of Peter in their times Whereunto we answer First that no diuine record does auouch so much or so much as mention any by the name of Bishop of Rome and therefore the knowledge of any rites concerning that Sea can not bee materiall vnto a point of faith Secondly as it is not certainely agreed vpon who that Bishop was which immediately Succeded Peter some affirming Liuius some Clemens and some Clitus to bee the man so can there be no cause shewne why som Bishop of Rome must needs be he For first if holinesse of life were sufficient to make a Successour so euery Christian might be Peters successor as wel as any Bishop of Rome Secondly if besides holinesse of life there must also concurre soundnesse of Doctrine yet so also any Pastor may as well be his successour Or if yet further such a quantitie of charge as Peter had bee requisite vnto the constitution of his Successour yet so also euery ordinary Diocesan is able to be his successor Or if yet further the foure fold qualifications Apostolicall namely Immediate calling Generalitie of commission Infallibility of Iudgement and Vniuersality of Languages must concurre to make such a Successour yet as the first Bishops of Rome are no where avouched to bee thus qualified more then others if so much especially if they knew no Language but the Latin and came to their places by Election which is no immediate Calling So neither will such quallification make a Successor vnto Peter more peculiar then vnto the rest of the Apostles vnto whom such foure-fold qualification was common wherein then shall consist the marrow and quiddity which makes the Roman Bishops the peculiar Successours of Peter For should it be supposed that some peculiar imposition of hands did passe from Peter vpon the first Bishop of Rome wherewith the Holy Ghost was giuen in the time of the Apostles or some portion of Peters spirit was giuen to that first Bishop as the spirit of Moses was vnto the Seauenty or that Peters garments were put vpon him as the garments of Aaron were vpon his Successours or some such like Rite of conueyance yet for as much as those kinde of ceremonies when they were vsed had no vertue in themselues but were diuised by the wisedome of God for the shaddowing and concealing his owne miraculous and immediate operations as our Sauiour and the Apostles vsed Spitle and Clay and Hemmes of garments Napkins Partlets Shaddowes the intitling any Bishop of Rome vnto Peters vertue spirit or priuiledge by means of any such outward passage which hath no diuine record to specifie it is no lesse presumptuous then superstitious and ridiculous Finally concerning their argumēt from Peters being the first Bishop of Rome their cardinall argument in this point that therfore only the Bishops of Rome are his Locall and so consequently his most proper Successours wee answer that neither is locall succession of force to attaine to the vertue of the predecessour there being no kinde of place whether natural ciuill or mysticall but which is capable euen of contrarieties euen the Soule of man the purest vessell and continent that is being a receptacle of Sinne as well as grace and the Temple of God being destinated for the Seate of Antichrist as well as for Iesus Christ Nor againe can the Bishops of Rome be proued at least in any peculiar manner so much as his Locall successours both for that other Bishops as namely of Ierusalem and Antioch had Peter for their Predecessour that euen by Scripture inference as also for that no diuine or approued writer does auouch either that Peter euer was the Bishop of Rome or that hee was personally present at Rome For whereas vpon Peters dating one of his Epistles from Babylon it is argued that he was then at Rome for that mystically hee might account that City Babylon yet considering how there were three Locall Babylons namely in Syria Caldea and Egypt which were farre more neerly situate vnto Peters Prouince then Rome was there coniecture that Peter meant Rome by Babylon in that Text hath three to one against it But if coniectures and good probabilities may be allowed to carry any sway in this businesse it is easie to produce them abundantly and that out of Scriptures that Peter neuer was but as euery Apostle was any Bishop of Rome For first it is apparant that Peter by the speciall appointment of the Spirit was confined vnto them of the Circumcision whereof Rome was no part Secondly it was well nigh twenty or thirty yeeres after our Sauiour gaue Peter the charge of feeding his Sheepe that Peter aboad about Ierusalem Antioch Ioppa and those quarters Thirdly Paul in his Epistle to the Romans does tell them that hee alwayes had a speciall care not to build on anothers foundation then the which Text what more faire argument can bee framed that Paul neuer esteemed the
should seeme to take vpon him the Office of a Iudge and so leaue a conceit in his followers that some degree of Authority might bee deriued from him euery where finally prescribing such courses and aduising all that desired to grow great in him to exceed only in humilitie preferring therefore a child before them all when they stroue who should be the greatest and telling them in effect that authority and greatnesse was to bee deriued only from the Kings of the Nations For whereas after his ascention hee tells vs that All power was giuen him both in Heauen and in Earth His meaning therein is only this that now all power both in Heauen and Earth should be vnder his humanitie as before it was vnder his Deity and that as all men euen Adam himselfe and all his race were formerly vnder him as he was the Sonne of God so now they should likewise bee vnder him as hee was the Sonne of man For the effecting thereof there needed no alteration of States or new conueyances for that as all other creatures both in Heauen and in Earth whether Angels Beasts Wormes Plants Stones or whatsoeuer are likewise become subiect vnto this manhood and yet still retaine their orders natures and properties as before Angels remaining Angels Beasts remaining Beasts Lyons Lyons Stones Stones c. so does it no otherwise follow but that mankind may likewise become subiect vnto the manhood of God and yet all men still to continue in their former properties Kings remaining Kings Princes Princes Fathers Masters Husbands Wiues Subiects Sonnes Seruants in their former condition and as the Apostles tell vs Euery man in the same calling wherin he was called as well after his birth in the Second Adam as in the first For as the second Adam did not thinke good to be the Father of a new generation by the course of Nature wherewith to propagate his Church but made choise of the old Adams issue to new graft vpō So may we conceiue it to be a course most answerable thereunto that when he meanes to adorne and bespangle his Church with Scepters Crownes and Authorities He will not make new Crowns or new Scepters or take away Crownes and Scepters from the old possessors to adorne his followers withall but only new graft vpon those old Crownes and Potentates and so most sweetely bring it to passe that though hee does not make his followers Kings yet does hee make Kings his followers Which as it is all one for the outward glory and countenance of the Gospell so it is farre more agreeing with the propertie and profession of the Gospel namely in winning Kings vnto the grace of God by gentle easie weake and peaceable meanes making choice of Sheepe and not Wolues or Lyons for his Ambassadors and that when hee sends to Wolues and Lyons and worse then Tygers that so those Rebells in the day of visitation when they see how the Lord hath dealt with them and how in stead of sheepe hee could haue sent wolues and Lyons in their owne kinde to haue worried and destroyed them then as ouercome with the coales of fire which his long suffering had cast vpon them they with all their hearts and soules present him and his Gospell with their Scepters Crownes Dignities and Possessions yea they thus breake forth into most vehement and sincere protestations as our so Christian Soueraigne hath taught them vnto his Maiestie alone I haue deuoted my Scepter my Sword my Penne my whole industry my whole selfe with all that is mine in whole and in part I doe it I doe it in all humble acknowledgement of his vnspeakable fauour c. to whose seruice as a most humble homager and vassall I consecrate all the glory honour lustre and splendor of my earthly Kingdomes Wee conclude then that neither diuine ordinance nor Church benefit does inforce or perswade this ground without which Saint Peter cannot be intitled vnto Soueraignty that the more spirituall men are the more they ought to bee possessors of Authority which conclusion also were it granted yet would not Peters Supremacy thereupon insue vnlesse it bee also proued that in Spirituall gifts and graces Peter must of necessity bee acknowledged to surmount all persons which we grant not For as concerning the Text and collections which vse to bee alleadged for that purpose as namely that Peter is ordinarily first named when the Apostles are rehearsed 2. That our Sauiour three seuerall times gaue him charge to feede his sheepe 3. That our Sauiour particularly told him that he had prayed for him 4. That our Sauiour payed the tribute for him 5. Did more ordinarily discourse with him then any of the rest 6. Gaue him a new name 7. Tearmed him a Rocke and promised to builde his Church vpon him 8. Gaue him the Keyes of heauen 9. And finally wrought especially by him in the Primitiue Church affayres We thus shortly answer them in order And first concerning his nominall priority we answer that it is not of force to intitle him vnto any principality it being not auoydable amōgst the most equals but that there must bee such kind of precedency as for example in the Trinity though neither is Peter euery where first named both Iames and Andrew being sometime named before him 2. And as for our Sauiours triple charging him to feed his sheepe wee answere That it is rather a checke then a grace to bee often called vpon to doe a dutie and in that it is said that Peter was sory when it was said vnto him the third time c. it may seem that Peter took it no otherwise as perhaps conceiting such tripling of his charge to bee in the way of a glance at his triple denial 3. Frō the like consideration of Peters weaknesse wee answere to the third might proceed our Sauiours telling him that He had praied for him For no doubt our Sauiours praier was as frequent effectuall for the rest though he saw not the like cause to tell them so much 4. And as for our Sauiours paying the tribute for him we answer that it may rather argue Peters pouerty and subiection then any kind of excellency and dominion the rest also perhaps not being lyable to the tribute which was then demanded either because they were no dwellers at Capernaum as Peter was and so it might bee if it were the Emperors tribute or for that they were not the first borne in their Families of whome onely the other tribute toward the Temple was demanded 5. And as for our Sauiours so ordinary discoursing with Peter wee answere that it is ordinary with natural Fathers to make choice rather of their little ones to oppose and discourse withall then their men growne sonnes especially when their intent therein is to teach standers by the most ready answerers rather then the more wary being fittest for such purposes 6. And as for the new naming of Peter wee answere that