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A34470	A blow at the serpent; or a gentle answer from Madiston prison to appease wrath advancing it self against truth and peace at Rochester. Together with the work of four daies disputes, in the Cathedral of Rochester, in the Countie of Kent, betweene several ministers, and Richard Coppin, preacher there, to whom very many people frequentlie came to hear, and much rejoyced at the way of truth and peace he preached, at the same whereof the ministers in those parts began to ring in their pulpits, saying, this man blasphemeth, ... Whereupon arose the disputes, at which were some magistrates, some officers, and souldiers, peaceable and well-minded, and very many people from all parts adjacent, before whom the truth was confirm'd and maintained. The whole matter written by the hearers, on both sides. Published for the confirmation and comfort of all such as receive the truth in the love of it. By Richard Coppin, now in Maidston Prison for the witness of Jesus. Twenty five articles since brought against him by the ministers, as blasphemie, and his answers to them, how he was	Coppin, Richard, fl. 1646-1659.	1656 (1656)	Wing C6094; ESTC R215454	85,329	113

what I have spoken or acted at any time against this present Government but I shall prove that he hath for he that shall oppose contend against or speak evil of any Law or thing contained in this present Government he is an enemie to it but this man Mr. Rosewell doth contend against speak evil of and stand in opposition to that freedome and libertie of the people in the exercise of their Religion towards God which this present Government doth allow them therefore is he an enemie to the present Government which I prove for the Lord Protector in his Instrument of Government signed by him in the Year fifty three doth declare That all persons professing Faith in God by Jesus Christ though they differ in judgement from the Doctrine Worship or Discipline publikely held forth shall not be restrained from but protected in the exercise of their Faith and practise of their Religion so far as it extends not to Popery and Prelacy nor to the disturbance of the Publike Peace nor licentious practises To all which your judgment have extended and therefore this libertie do you oppose and speak evil of as the people all may witnesse CHAP. XVI The return of all men home to God by Christ the broad and narrow way and who finds it that the Doctrine of Gods love in saving all men is the only means to keep men from sin AGain whereas you did declare that this Doctrine of the love of God to all men did give way to licentiousnesse and wickednesse I denie and this I have before sufficientlie cleared to you in these Disputes that it is the onlie means to keep them from sin and this was that which Christ did command his Disciples to declare to all the world for that end even Gods eternal love in Christ to poor sinners as the way and means that God had appointed to bring home to him all that were banished from him according as 't is written 2 Sam. 14. 14. For we must needs die and are as water spilt upon the ground which cannot be gathered up again neither doth God respect any person yet doth he devise means that his banished be not expel'd from him and this way and means is the Lord Jesus who was set up from everlasting to be the way the truth and the light yea a witnesse a Leader and a Commander to all people that when we were enemies to him by wicked works and so dead in sins and trespasses yet then did God in his Son reconcile us all to himself and made us accepted in the beloved Jesus that as there was a broad way in which all men did fall from God and did become strangers to God so there is also a narrow way and a living way even Christ himself in which all men shall come to God again and indeed there is but few a verie small number that can finde this way nay so few that it is but onlie one and that is God in Christ who is himself as a Son the way to himself as the Father which none can know or find but himself for so it is written That no man knows the Son but the Father nor no man knows the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son shall reveal him and so there is but onlie one even Christ in all men that is the way for all men to come to God by You read of ten Lepers that were cleansed and but one which did returne to give glorie to God then said Christ Where are the other nine Now they were all cleansed and but one that saw it and he glorified God and that one was Christ in him that did see it that gave glorie to God for him and all the rest that were cleansed and so there is none but Jesus Christ that can glorifie God in all or that can trulie pray and give thanks to God for all for he onlie is accepted of the Father and all men as one in him are accepted of the Father with him for he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one for which cause he is not ashamed to call them Brethren and that he might gather together in one all things in Christ of things in heaven and things on earth even in him and I in them and thou in me saith Christ that we all may be made perfect in one Rosewell Captain Smith will you let him go on any further Captain Smith We cannot deny him he will claime a promise for it Coppin Hear I beseech you for I am now declaring the gathering together of all men in Christ to be by him brought home to the Father and therefore mark what the Scripture saith I will saith Christ seek that which was lost and bring again that which was driven away and will bind up that which was broken and will strengthen that which was sick and so bring them health and cure and I will cure them and will cause their captivity to return and will build them up as at the first and so cleanse them from all iniquitie Now that all men sined fell and were lost in Adam none will denie because the Scripture saith it but that all men that sined and were lost in Adam shall again be redeemed and made righteous by Christ that you call blasphemie though proved by the same Scripture and let the people judg who perverts Scripture of us two Christ tells you he came to seek and to save that which was lost then as in Adam all die even so in Christ shall all be made alive yea the same all that were lost in the one are found in the other and the Lord Jesus did declare himselfe to all men for this purpose and did pray for them which were enemies to him and had imbrued their hands in his blood Father forgive them they know not what they do and my little children saith John these things I write unto you that you sin not and if any man sin we have an Advocate with the Father Jesus Christ the righteous who is a Propitiation for our sins and not for ours only but for the sins of the whole world and this saith Paul is good and acceptable to God the Father who will have all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth woe but will God have all men saved and will he save all that was lost woe but man will not have it so for he would have but some of them saved though the Lord saith he will have all and now for shame say no more that Coppin onlie will have all men saved but say also that the Lord will have all men saved since the Scripture is so clear for it and then Lord who hath resisted thy will Lord let thy will be done for of thee and through thee and to thee are all things Rosewell He saith all men shall be saved but doth not know when Coppin I say

the second person in the Trinity God our All-blessed for ever he that did take our nature of his Virgin Mother and doth in our nature sit at the right hand of God and will come again at the last day to judge the quick and dead Coppin I do not denie the three persons according to the Scripture but you do denie Christ to be within us and would subscribe him to a place above our heads with another person therefore I will tell you what the Trinity is First there is God the Father that did create all things and in whom all things live when yet unknown to man and that men might know him that is true he did appear as a son amongst men to manifest himself to men and so he is said to be Immanuel God withus which is also Christ in us the hope of glory Thirdly there is the Holy Spirit and that is the compleat manifestation of the fulness of all things brought home to mans understanding wherein God Christ and man appears all but one in one God as Christ saith I in them and thou in me that we all may be made perfect in one and saith he The Comforter which is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in my name he shall come and teach you all things Now so long as man is without this manifestation of God which is Christ in him he is a reprobate and knows not God but when Christ shall so appear in man to shew the Father plainly then is there a perfect knowledg of the true God in man John 14. 20. At that day ye shall know that I am in the Father and you in me and I in you and then know you not but that Christ is in you except you be reprobates And now what is a reprobate but not to have Christ in you which is God manifest in flesh therefore I say Reprobation is the not knowing of God to be in you Rom. 1. 28. for because they did not like to retain God in their knowledge God gave them over to a reprobate mind but where there is God manifest in flesh to the knowledge of any there is Christ and that man is no longer a reprobate for then is God said to walk in him as being no longer still and silent but is seen and known to him as when a man dwells in a house shuting the windows to him and will not be seen so when God doth not only dwell in man but also walk in man discovering himself to man by opening and leting in the light through the understanding of man then is Father Son and Spirit all three as one God dwelling walking and manifesting himself in man For saith he I will dwell amongst you and I will walk amongst you I will be your God and you shall be my people Rosewell You have confounded the three persons Coppin No I have united them together in their proper places as all agreeing in one when as they were three manifestations of that one great and glorious God Father Son and Spirit Rosewell It is high time for Magistrates Ministers and people to look about them when such damnable errors are uttered with so impudent a face Captain Smith Mr. Rosewell It is the plain Scripture I conceive Mr. Coppin hath given the people satisfaction in those things for he saith that Jesus Christ is in no reprobates nor in no man till they know God and that where God doth manifest himself to a soul there is Christ Rosewell But Sir he I know doth mean that there is no reprobates ordained to wrath now tell me will Christ be in them you call reprobates first or last Coppin There is no man now come to know God but first he did not know God and so long he was a reprobate which that all men are till Christ be dwelling in them Captain Smith Till Jesus Christ be manifested in them he saith they are reprobates Rosewell But I have a new question that is Will Christ be manifest in them all first or last answer that Coppin I will give you a plain Scripture for an answer 1 Tim. 2. 4. 5. Who will have all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth for there is one God and one Mediator betweene God and man even the man Christ Jesus who gave himselfe a ransome for all men to be testified in due time whereunta I Paul am ordained an Apostle I speak the truth in Christ and lie not Rosewell You see ●e affirms that God will save all men Coppin I have answered you in the plain words of Scriptures which is an answer sufficient And Paul saith He doth speak the truth in Christ and lies not pick what you can out of that and of this Gospel truth saith he I Paul am made a Minister Rosewell You do not say that Christ shall appear in all but you bring this as a proof now no Scripture doth contradict another now this is meant he will save some of all sorts of men of places and authority Coppin The Apostle saith all and you say some who perverts Scripture now you or I Rosewell You are not to pray for all men therefore all shall not be saved Coppin If all shall be saved that are to be prayed for then there is none but shall be saved for prayers is to be made for all men Rosewell But the Apostle means all sorts of men and that some of all sorts shall be saved Coppin Then by your own words there is no one whole sort of men in the world left out from salvation but some of all sorts and not all of any sort you say shall be saved and the Scripture saith all men of all sorts for both the fulnesse of Jews and Gentiles shall come in therefore name any of any sort that shall not CHAP. IX The sin against the Holy Ghost not forgiven what it is who commits it and when ROsewell He that hath commited the sin against the Holy Ghost that after strong conviction of truth do fall away and are perverted they shall not be forgiven in this world nor the world to come and whosoever commits sin is of him but he that is born of God sineth not neither can he for his seed remaineth in him Rosewell He that is born of God sineth not that is willingly to make a trade of sin yet in the best of Gods people there is sin Coppin Then he that commits sin is of the devill and shall be destroyed but if he that commits sin and is of the devill be meant of men there is none shall be saved if all commits sin as you say Rosewell No I doe not say so Coppin But you do therefore heare if he that commits sin is of the devill as the Scripture saith and that as you say all men do commit sin for you say in the best of Gods people there is sin and that God will destroy the persons of men

being The Eye Eterne and yet Mentall Whose work is alwayes freeing Vs from all enemies within And raising us with Christ And clearing us from fancied sin To live with God the highest What shall I say time would me fail Thy sufferings to relate Yet all thy enemies cant prevail God still doth dissipate Men to their shame their horrid lies That they have still invented To cloud Christs real mysteries By truth they are tor mented An Hirogliphical Astrological causion to all sable learned Priests and others that persecute the life of Christ and speak evil of things they know not OLd Saturns persecuting minde Hath sometimes rampant been And lately couchant and as blind Though now he 's passant seen But have a care go not too fast Joves splendour to distresse Lest Mars and Sol agree at last To curb thy cruelnesse By J. L. The Names of such Books published by R. Coppin and are to be sold at the BLACK-MOOR 1. DIvine Teachings 2. Mans Righteousnesse examined 3. Saul smitten for not smiting Amalick 4. A Man-Child borne 5. Truths T●stimonie A Dialogue betweene Nimrod Policy and Nathanael Innocency by J. Lane Twelve Songs of Sion by J. L. One other book of the same Doctrine by W. Foxon Truths Champion first and second Part concerning Generall Redemption Ministery and Ordinances by R. Stooks Truths Triumph OR The Triumphing of TRVTH OVER The Enemies and Aspersers thereof In several Disputes holden at the Cathedral Church of the City of Rochester in the County of Kent between several Ministers and Richard Coppin on several daies DISPUTE I. Between Walter Rosewell then a Preacher at Chatham and Richard Coppin then Preacher in the Cathedral of Rochester being on Munday the third day of December 1655. THe people being come together into the Cathedral Richard Coppin began in prayer after which the Mayor of the City and Captain Smith Captain of the Guard desired the people to keep silence and none to speak but Rosewell and Coppin if any else did they should be apprehended and proceeded against as Disturbers of the Peace Then spake Coppin saying I desire also that the people will all keep silent and none to speak a word but those who are in dispute I know you are a people divided some for the one party and some for the other and I shall speak to you all First to you that are on the contrary party to me and that have any desire to speak not to speak above one at a time and so speak as many as will provided the one hath done before the other begin And to you that may have any desire to speak on my behalf I entreat you all to be silent and not to speak a word but to leave all to the Lord and my self Rosew M. Mayor I thought none but you the rest of the Magistrates and Officers of the Army should have had the mannaging this Dispute and I to have began first that so this mans discourse might have been spared And as for the plausible prayer he made at my coming in to delude the people I confesse my Conscience would not give me to joyn with him not but that the matter thereof was good but I knowing his Principle to be corrupt could not say Amen to it And now if you please I shall first make a short Prayer and then go on to the work for I cannot undertake a businesse of such weight for the suppressing of such damnable errors as here hath been vented without calling upon God for assistance both to Magistrates Officers and Ministers in this work CHAP. I. That Christ who knew no sin took part of mans flesh and blood which was sinful weak and punishable how in it he was made the same and for what end ROsewell There be three things which I shall charge you withal at present the which you should endeavour to clear your self of if you can and that I shall propound in a Logical way yet so plain that that little reason you are endowed withal may understand it as for Art I presume you have none Proposition First he that is a perswader of the people to believe that Jesus Christ was a sinner and that the Humane Nature of Christ was polluted with sin he is a Blasphemer of Christ a Perverter of Scripture and a venter of damnable errors Coppin Sir you have here laid down a Proposition the affirmation of which you say is Blasphemy and he a Blasphemer that shall perswade men to believe it But Sir who do you charge with it me or some other or did any man else ever hear me say these words if any did let him speak and I will answer it for there is no reason for me to answer to that which is not laid to my charge and I came not here to charge my self but do now expect something of accusation from you else why have you and the rest of your Brethren so often railed against me in your Pulpits Rosewell I desire the Souldiers and Magistrates to declare if I have any reason to speak any further till this Proposition be answered Coppin Do you charge me with any thing in this Proposition or not if you do I will answer you else I may say to you as Christ my Elder Brother sometimes said to his Accusers Ye said these words I said them not Rosewell Oh horrible Blasphemy to call Christ your Elder Brother I professe I dare not say so no you will find him to be your Judge at the last day to condemn you for your Blasphemy Coppin He is your Elder Brother also though you do not know him But Sir I perceive you for your part have yet nothing against me and therefore you urge these things endeavouring to draw somthing from my own mouth to accuse me which is not a Disputing in love on your part to edifie the people as you pretended but to charge me with Blasphemy as the Jewes and Scribes and Pharisees did Christ which you cannot prove Yet to give the people satisfaction I shall not hide any thing from them but shall be free to declare such things that God hath made known to me that so he might be glorified and their souls comforted which I shall also do according to the Scriptures and then catch what you can Therefore first I declare that the Lord Jesus Christ the Son of the living God and Saviour of the World that proceeded forth from the Father into the world to take on him part of the same flesh and bloud of men and to live in it was himself holy harmlesse and undefiled in whose mouth was found no guile as saith the Scripture yet this Lord Jesus and Son of the living God who was so holy and harmlesse was himselfe pleased to take mans sinful nature so called to live in it and cleanse it he was made in the likenesse of sinful flesh and for sin he condemned sin in the flesh as also saith the Scripture nay he was

to God glory in the highest And O how beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of those which bring tydings of peace and say to Sion thy God raigneth thy warfare is accomplished and thy sin is pardoned and this Gospel did Christ preach and command to be preached to every creature under heaven as the work of his Ministerie Rosewell He doth maintain the salvation of all and doth condemn others which do not so you may plainly see now how you are misled and I hope you are all abundantly satisfied in it if it were not to give satisfaction to some I would not have put my self to this trouble to have discoursed with such a man in whose forehead Blasphemy is written in Capital Letters he that runs may read it Coppin Seeing you cannot tell how to call me bad enough as you think therefore I will give you a little more before you go and catch what you can that is that no man can be assured of his own salvation except he see the same salvation in the same Saviour for all men as well as for himself which is to love his Neighbour as himself Rosewell Better and better Coppin For Jesus Christ did die and pay a price for all men one as well as another and if there be but a few men saved and the greatest part damned to eternitie as you say there is what assurance then can there be to any for all were sinners and if there were but one man to be so damned how could any man assuredly know except he believe this but that he himself might be that one man Rosewell Blessed be God which doth so discover him to us his Elder Brother which went before him was more subtil not to discover those Blasphemies which lay hid in him but in you the devil appears in his colours and in his Stage-play terms Coppin I have not yet said any evil of you though you are pleased to raile at me for speaking the truth freelie Rosewell It is not judging nor railing to call a Blasphemer a Blasphemer though I will not deny but there may be something spoken of a weak Brother and also that Scripture in the Rom. by you mentioned when he speaks of a remnant and that they shall be grafted in again and whereas you say that all shall be saved Matth. 22. 14. Many are called but few are chosen I am sorry I must be so brief but straightened in my body the truth is his lungs are better then mine but I hope must here are satisfied in what hath been here stoken Robison We are well satisfied pray God keep us from this damnable Doctrine Coppin It remaines damnable to all that believe it not for though it be a truth that God will save all men yet till man doth see this salvation within him there is no satisfaction unto him but he still remains only as one called with the multitude that shall be saved but being not yet chosen he remains as one unsaved until his time appointed comes that he see himself saved which will then be his choice or election to the faith by the spirit of adoption so that many are called but few are chosen but the called shall all be chosen for it is written That the promise of salvation is to all that are afar off and as many as the Lord shall call Acts 2. 39. CHAP. XII Of the Day of Judgment and all mens coming to it with the time when the place where the manner how the matter judged and for what ROsewell You say we preach damnation and so do cast men downe we do preach it to such as do go on in their sins and live and die in their sins that hell is their portion and as for thousands which die in their infancie the corruption of their natures is enough to damn them in hell to all eternity I can but hint at those things indeed if we did preach only damnation we were too blame but when we do Preach comfort to Believers we preach damnation to unbelievers as Christ saith He that believeth shall be saved and he that believeth not shall be damned at the Day of Judgement Rom. 2. who after their hardnesse of heart treasure up wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God who will render to every man according to his deeds to them that are contentious and obey not the truth indignation and wrath tribulation and anguish to every soule of man which doth evill to the Jew first and also to the Gentile Coppin Sir you have run through many words of wrath and judgment but nothing is proved by you what it is nor when it is and whereas you say there is a day of wrath and judgment I doe acknowledge the same and that it is both to Jewes and Gentiles and all that obey not the truth but whereas you also say that some Jewes which are dead already shall not be grafted in againe I denie for the promise that they should come in was then made for all the stiff-necked Jewes that were also then and before living though their bodies fell in the wilderness yet their Spirits are living and shall again be grafted in When the earth shall be full of the knowledg of God and though you from Rom. 2. doe say they are under wrath you doe not from thence prove that it shall abide on them for ever and ever now I say that that man which is under wrath must there remaine till the Lord Jesus doth come to him to manifest himselfe in him to turne his wrath away from him and so judg that in him for wrath which is for wrath and that for mercy which is for mercy but because you have not declared what this day of wrath and judgment is I will for a day of judgment there is in which all men shall be judged and receive according to their deeds and if there be more then one day of judgment which I shall shew you then doe you declare it for I denie nothing which can be proved by any man from Scriptute Now the Scripture saith there is judgment appointed for all men as 't is written It is appointed for all men once to die and after that the judgment and this death is adying into sin and trespasses for the wages of sin is death which none can be delivered from but by judgment and the Lord Jesus is to be the Judg of all For the Father judgeth no man but hath commited all judgment to the Son who will not judg by the sight of the eye nor hearing of the eare but will judg righteous judgment and Christ saith for judgment am I come into this world and now saith he is the judgment of this world is come now shall the Prince of this world be cast out and as it began then so it is not ended yet but goeth on still and shall continue so long as there is any sin death

and such a one enjoyes it as possessingly and the other doth not and that makes it more especially unto him and so he have a greater assurance then the other hath because he trusteth in the living God who is the Saviour of all men of which all he knows himself one and so believes it upon a sure ground till which time I could not assure my self Article 15. That if there be but one man of all that ever were or shall be in the world damned no man can assuredly know that his soule shall be saved Answer And if Christ were not the Saviour of all men and I hear but of one man that shall be damned to all eternity and this man not yet pointed out as knowne from all the rest to be the man and Christ come to save the worst of sinners what full assurance then can I have of my savlation more then another of his salvation but some doubts and some feares will arise within me who shall be that man that is to be damned till I see a pardon come forth for all men to be saved and then I knowing my selfe to be one of that all cannot but have a good assurance of my owne salvation this axperince-in me doth witness as also saith the Scripture that I can no more judge any man to eternall damnation but that which is not of God in man Therefore who art thou O man that judgest another and dost the same things thy selfe for wherein thou judgest another thou condemnest thy selfe for thou that judgest dost the same things and who hath made thee to differ from another that thou shouldest be saved and not another wherefore think not better of thy selfe then of another for there is no respect of Persons with God that is more accepted with him but only Christ in all and all in Christ for he hath concluded all men as men under sin and unbeliefe that he might have mercy upon all and then O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God how unsearchable are his judgment and his wayes past finding out for who hath knowne the mind of God or who hath bin his councellor for of him and to him and through him are all things to whom be glory for ever Article 16. That the unpardonable sin of the Holy Ghost is nothing but flesh opposing and quenching the spirit till Christ come into the soule and destroy the flesh Answer To explaine this the Holy Ghost is the spirit the sin against the Holy Ghost is the opposition and war that is made against the Spirit by the fleshly carnall mind for the flesh wa 〈…〉 against the Spirit and the Spirit against the flesh and these are contrary one to another in man and so saith Paul I find saith he a warring within me that when I would do good evill is present with me 't is no more I that do it but sin that dwelleth in me for with my mind I serve the Law of God though with my flesh the Law of sin and this flesh opposing the Spirit is for a time in every man as a man of sin ruling in them till Christ come into the soule and destroy it which shall never be forgiven in this world nor in the world to come but is the only enemy that God will destroy in man Article 17. That when a soule is once regenerated then he is free from all sin that the flesh is quite destroyed Answer Regeneration is a new birth and the new birth is to be in Christ a new creature free from all sin without which man nor his prayers nor any thing is accepted of God for he heareth not sinners and without holiness no man shall see God but if the Son shall make you free then are you free indeed and him that is in Christ is a new creature old things are past away and all things are become new by the washing of Regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost Article 18. That no man shall receive any good by any good that he doth that it shall no way further his salvation Answer If man by his good works could merit heaven then salvation by Christ were made void or if any thing of man which is imperfect were to joyn with Christ in the work of salvation then mans salvation were not all by Christ but by man and would so far be imperfect and then man might boast and say he was able to help Christ to save his soul and so robing Christ of his work would rob him of his honor also but not of works saith Paul lest any man should boast neither by any other name under heaven but by Jesus Christ is any man saved that no flesh might glory in his presence but he that glories let him glory in the Lord that his soul was saved by the Lord Article 19. That no man shall receive any hinderance by any sin he committeth that shall do him no hurt Answer If any sin of man should hinder mans salvation by Christ then that sin would appear to be too strong for Christ to conquer and then no man could be saved for there is no sin but every man is guiltie of for all have sinned and all are guiltie but this I say with the Prophet Elihu that his bad works may hurt a man as he is and his good works may profit men but shall no way profit the salvation of his soul But because good works are good to men therefore would I have all men observe and do them doing unto others as they would others should do to them which is the sum of the whole Law for he that loveth God will also love his Brother Article 20. That our Lord Jesus Christ is the three persons in the Trinity God blessed Father Son and Holy Spirit and that the blessed Trinity is but three manifestation of God Answer The blessed Trinity Father Son and Spirit I acknowledg the Father as begeting the Son as begotten and the Holy Ghost uniting as being the compleat union of all three together in one spirit where they all meet as copartners together in one work that what the one is the other is the same and what the one doth the other doth the same as all but one God manifesting himself under various appearances of Father Son and Spirit to the creatures apprehension Article 21. That our Lord Jesus Christ himself was the Leper that was cleansed and returned to give thanks Luke 17. 15. Answer I say not that Christ was a Leper but there were ten Lepers that were cleansed and one of them when he saw himself cleansed turned back and glorified God and Christ saith Where are the other nine There are not found that returned to give glory to God save this stranger and who was this stranger but Christ in that man that gave glory to God for the work done as Christ saith Father I have glorified thee on