king_n but_o only_o that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o good_a reason_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v depose_v king_n in_o any_o case_n whatsoever_o because_o a_o mere_a spiritual_a power_n can_v in_o no_o case_n possible_a extend_v itself_o to_o temporall_n 105._o another_o reason_n very_o common_a among_o those_o who_o defend_v the_o oath_n and_o deny_v the_o pope_n depose_v power_n be_v because_o neither_o the_o unlawfulness_n of_o the_o oath_n nor_o the_o pope_n power_n to_o depose_v king_n be_v any_o article_n of_o divine_a faith_n whence_o they_o infer_v that_o one_o may_v lawful_o take_v the_o oath_n and_o by_o consequence_n swear_v positive_o that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o such_o power_n now_o let_v any_o one_o judge_n whether_o this_o consequence_n be_v not_o manifest_o null_a such_o a_o thing_n be_v no_o article_n of_o faith_n therefore_o we_o may_v lawful_o swear_v the_o contrary_n it_o be_v no_o article_n of_o divine_a faith_n that_o his_o majesty_n be_v king_n of_o 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