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A10170 The other parte of Christian questions and answeares which is concerning the sacraments, writte[n] by Theodore Beza Vezelian: to which is added a large table of the same questions. Translated out of Latine into Englishe by Iohn Field.; Quaestionum et responsionum Christianarum libellus. Pars altera. English Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.; Fielde, John, d. 1588. 1580 (1580) STC 2045; ESTC S109027 101,745 336

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shut_v out_o from_o the_o covenant_n who_o when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n of_o discretion_n shake_v off_o through_o unbelief_n that_o same_o grace_n 128._o question_n but_o when_o thou_o say_v that_o the_o thing_n signify_v in_o baptism_n be_v seal_v by_o faith_n only_o what_o shall_v we_o say_v to_o be_v seal_v in_o infant_n who_o when_o they_o be_v baptize_v be_v not_o replenish_v with_o any_o faith_n in_o deed_n and_o to_o those_o that_o be_v dead_a before_o they_o can_v be_v teach_v the_o faith_n answer_n sure_o we_o do_v baptise_v they_o as_o though_o they_o shall_v overlyve_a other_o now_o that_o which_o i_o have_v speak_v concern_v faith_n belong_v only_o unto_o those_o that_o be_v come_v to_o the_o year_n of_o discretion_n &_o yet_o their_o baptism_n shall_v not_o therefore_o be_v in_o vain_a for_o that_o shall_v be_v ratify_v in_o they_o that_o as_o i_o have_v say_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o godly_a parent_n come_v between_o be_v now_o bestow_v upon_o they_o when_o they_o 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question_n forasmuch_o as_o certain_a old_a father_n attribute_v very_o much_o in_o this_o controversy_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n and_o of_o the_o church_n whence_o i_o pray_v you_o come_v this_o question_n do_v thou_o believe_v i_o believe_v do_v thou_o forsake_v i_o forsake_v answer_n i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a how_o diligent_o augustine_n study_v write_v too_o bonifacius_n too_o excuse_v this_o kind_n of_o vow_v and_o promise_v then_o use_v in_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n but_o who_o see_v not_o that_o this_o begin_v from_o hence_o that_o that_o which_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v say_v and_o do_v in_o the_o baptism_n of_o those_o which_o be_v grow_v of_o year_n of_o discretion_n be_v by_o the_o negligence_n
of_o the_o bishop_n and_o peradventure_o by_o the_o superstition_n of_o some_o draw_v too_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n of_o which_o thing_n god_n willing_a we_o will_v then_o entreat_v when_o we_o shall_v come_v to_o the_o confutation_n of_o the_o contrary_a opinion_n 130._o question_n i_o have_v hear_v what_o thou_o do_v think_v of_o the_o child_n of_o turk_n and_o jew_n but_o whether_o do_v thou_o reckon_v in_o the_o same_o number_n their_o child_n which_o take_v part_n with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n answer_n no_o not_o so_o question_n but_o yet_o you_o say_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v another_o antichrist_n and_o therefore_o they_o who_o be_v call_v papist_n must_v needs_o be_v fall_v from_o christ_n answer_n i_o grant_v it_o but_o admit_v that_o the_o papacy_n be_v not_o christianisme_n but_o rather_o antichristianisme_n yet_o notwithstanding_o christianisme_n have_v remain_v and_o do_v remain_v as_o it_o be_v bury_v in_o the_o papacy_n 131._o question_n what_o thou_o mean_v i_o do_v not_o yet_o sufficient_o perceive_v answer_n i_o say_v that_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n both_o will_v &_o yet_o will_v that_o his_o church_n shall_v lie_v hide_v in_o the_o very_a bowel_n of_o the_o papacy_n itself_o question_n whereupon_o do_v thou_o gather_v this_o answer_n by_o consequent_a for_o i_o say_v that_o whersoever_o there_o be_v a_o proper_a note_n of_o the_o church_n that_o the_o church_n be_v there_o 132._o question_n but_o how_o miserable_o be_v that_o church_n defile_v whether_o thou_o look_v upon_o the_o doctrine_n itself_o or_o upon_o the_o mark_n of_o baptism_n the_o note_n thereof_o answer_n admit_v it_o be_v so_o far_o forth_o defile_v that_o it_o can_v be_v know_v of_o any_o but_o of_o cunning_a and_o skilful_a man_n yet_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v in_o that_o same_o mark_n of_o he_o i_o baptize_v thou_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n question_n what_o geathere_v thou_o thereof_o answer_n that_o the_o papistry_n be_v at_o no_o hand_n christianity_n but_o rather_o so_o great_a a_o stray_n as_o he_o that_o do_v embrace_v it_o &_o abide_v in_o it_o he_o must_v fall_v from_o christianity_n the_o same_o be_v say_v of_o grecisme_n which_o also_o be_v so_o great_a a_o stray_n from_o christianity_n that_o no_o man_n can_v true_o be_v a_o opinion_n a_o in_o opinion_n grecian_a and_o a_o christian_a at_o this_o day_n i_o say_v notwithstanding_o that_o the_o gentile_n which_o now_o be_v comprehend_v general_o in_o those_o same_o two_o faction_n and_o incline_v to_o that_o cut_n of_o of_o they_o which_o paul_n manifest_o foretell_v be_v not_o for_o all_o that_o to_o be_v reckon_v cut_v of_o as_o long_o as_o the_o outward_a note_n of_o baptism_n shall_v endure_v there_o and_o further_o i_o say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v geather_v out_o of_o the_o midst_n and_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o papistry_n question_n can_v thou_o prove_v that_o by_o any_o fit_a example_n of_o the_o time_n past_a answer_n yea_o forsooth_o for_o what_o think_v thou_o be_v pharisaisme_n saducisme_n and_o too_o be_v short_a judaisme_n in_o the_o time_n while_o christ_n live_v sure_o such_o that_o no_o man_n be_v a_o jew_n if_o thou_o look_v upon_o the_o very_a body_n of_o that_o people_n which_o do_v not_o make_v the_o covenaunt_n of_o the_o lord_n in_o vain_a and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o true_a religion_n be_v for_o a_o time_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o pharisatsme_n and_o saducisme_n yea_o and_o in_o the_o most_o corrupt_a judaisme_n so_o long_o as_o circumcision_n the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n flourish_v amongst_o that_o people_n but_o circumcision_n be_v abolish_v and_o the_o note_n of_o christianisme_n be_v reject_v now_o the_o people_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v just_o say_v to_o be_v cut_v off_o the_o like_a i_o think_v not_o to_o be_v affirm_v of_o papistry_n itself_o but_o of_o christianity_n as_o it_o be_v drown_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o papistry_n and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o a_o little_a lift_v up_o itself_o 133._o question_n but_o forasmuch_o as_o he_o that_o be_v a_o papist_n be_v not_o a_o christian_a in_o deed_n will_v thou_o admit_v such_o a_o man_n be_v of_o the_o year_n of_o discretion_n &_o not_o baptize_v to_o baptism_n answer_n no_o unless_o he_o be_v first_o become_v instruct_v &_o renounce_v popery_n 134._o question_n and_o will_v thou_o admit_v the_o child_n bear_v of_o such_o kind_n of_o parent_n answer_n neither_o true_o will_v i_o do_v that_o rash_o question_n upon_o what_o condition_n then_o answer_n to_o wit_n either_o of_o some_o of_o the_o parent_n or_o kinsfolk_n renounce_v popery_n and_o have_v the_o child_n in_o their_o custody_n will_v request_v this_o of_o i_o or_o else_o some_o fit_n witness_v present_a who_o will_v promise_v the_o godly_a and_o right_a instruction_n of_o the_o child_n question_n and_o will_v thou_o do_v the_o same_o thing_n too_o the_o child_n of_o a_o turk_n or_o a_o jew_n answer_n sure_o i_o will_v do_v it_o in_o the_o first_o sort_n neither_o shall_v such_o a_o child_n be_v deem_v too_o be_v spring_v from_o the_o jew_n or_o turk_n forasmuch_o as_o they_o renounce_v their_o false_a religion_n and_o be_v now_o baptize_v themselves_o or_o require_v baptism_n they_o do_v desire_v baptism_n for_o their_o child_n and_o offspring_n but_o if_o the_o question_n be_v of_o those_o that_o be_v of_o the_o year_n of_o discretion_n yea_o though_o there_o be_v present_v a_o thousand_o that_o will_v promise_v for_o they_o yet_o i_o will_v refuse_v too_o minister_v baptism_n unto_o their_o child_n question_n and_o why_o so_o rather_o then_o too_o the_o child_n of_o the_o papist_n answer_n because_o neither_o judaisme_n nor_o turkism_n be_v christianisme_n neither_o in_o turkism_n or_o now_o in_o judaisme_n be_v christianisme_n that_o be_v i_o have_v not_o any_o probableconiecture_n whereby_o i_o may_v gather_v that_o any_o bear_v of_o the_o jew_n or_o turk_n be_v holy_a that_o be_v to_o say_v which_o do_v belong_v unto_o the_o covenant_n of_o god._n but_o now_o albeit_o papisme_n be_v not_o true_a christianisme_n yet_o notwithstanding_o christianisme_n be_v as_o yet_o in_o papism_n as_o may_v appear_v by_o that_o that_o there_o have_v yet_o remain_v safe_a and_o sound_o that_o same_o substantial_a form_n of_o baptism_n which_o satan_n yet_o can_v not_o utter_o abolish_v 135._o question_n do_v thou_o think_v the_o same_o of_o the_o child_n of_o every_o kind_n of_o heretic_n answer_n no_o not_o so_o for_o i_o except_v those_o who_o abolish_n the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n now_o that_o be_v the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v minister_v so_o as_o christ_n have_v institute_v have_v bring_v in_o a_o other_o although_o they_o false_o say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v say_v of_o the_o eunomian_o and_o presilianistes_n and_o diverse_a other_o question_n will_v thou_o therefore_o baptise_v these_o again_o answer_n nay_o rather_o i_o will_v baptize_v they_o be_v not_o yet_o baptize_v with_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n 136._o question_n hitherto_o therefore_o have_v be_v speak_v of_o those_o which_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v now_o i_o ask_v who_o office_n it_o be_v to_o baptize_v answer_n sure_o it_o be_v their_o office_n to_o who_o the_o care_n of_o administer_a the_o word_n be_v command_v for_o the_o sacrament_n be_v as_o it_o be_v seal_n set_v unto_o the_o table_n of_o the_o word_n and_o christ_n send_v forth_o his_o apostle_n and_o prescribe_v the_o form_n of_o baptism_n have_v join_v these_o two_o together_o 137._o question_n but_o paul_n say_v that_o he_o be_v not_o send_v to_o baptise_v 1._o cor._n 1._o 16._o answer_v that_o that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v precise_o but_o by_o way_n of_o comparison_n it_o appear_v by_o that_o that_o in_o the_o self_n same_o place_n he_o say_v he_o baptize_v the_o house_n of_o stephana_n which_o he_o will_v never_o have_v do_v unless_o he_o have_v be_v call_v unto_o it_o therefore_o he_o say_v that_o he_o be_v send_v that_o he_o may_v special_o labour_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o plant_v church_n in_o which_o he_o appoint_v pastor_n of_o who_o rather_o as_o also_o of_o their_o fellow_n helper_n the_o evangelist_n all_o believer_n as_o the_o matter_n require_v shall_v be_v baptize_v but_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o old_a church_n especial_o now_o when_o baptism_n be_v become_v more_o laboursome_a use_v in_o many_o thing_n the_o help_n of_o deacon_n but_o to_o be_v short_a see_v that_o baptism_n be_v mere_o one_o part_n of_o the_o church_n ministry_n it_o be_v right_o administer_v by_o minister_n only_o that_o be_v lawful_o call_v 138._o question_n but_o whether_o do_v thou_o believe_v that_o the_o popish_a either_o bishop_n or_o priest_n be_v lawful_o call_v answer_n i_o
say_v i_o baptise_v thou_o or_o whither_o let_v the_o servant_n of_o christ_n be_v baptize_v it_o make_v no_o matter_n so_o that_o the_o form_n of_o the_o action_n itself_o which_o they_o exercise_v be_v keep_v but_o notwithstanding_o that_o i_o may_v speak_v plain_o as_o the_o matter_n be_v the_o form_n keep_v in_o the_o latin_a church_n seem_v unto_o i_o to_o come_v more_o near_o to_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o to_o be_v more_o fit_n to_o confirm_v the_o faith_n of_o he_o which_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v question_n why_o so_o answer_n because_o the_o minister_n speak_v of_o himself_o when_o he_o say_v in_o the_o first_o person_n i_o baptise_v and_o then_o add_v the_o pronoune_n thou_o do_v make_v the_o mind_n of_o he_o which_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v more_o attentive_a aswell_o to_o mark_v the_o outward_a action_n as_o though_o god_n himself_o be_v present_a do_v the_o self_n same_o thing_n by_o himself_o which_o the_o minister_n witness_v by_o his_o word_n as_o also_o too_o apply_v the_o the_o promise_n unto_o himself_o proper_o and_o peculiar_o 157._o question_n but_o the_o child_n which_o be_v baptize_v understand_v none_o of_o these_o thing_n answer_n i_o grant_v it_o but_o he_o shall_v understande_v it_o in_o his_o time_n because_o as_o i_o say_v before_o the_o virtue_n of_o these_o word_n through_o out_o the_o whole_a life_n of_o they_o that_o be_v baptize_v show_v his_o power_n in_o all_o tentation_n so_o that_o we_o be_v at_o the_o very_a point_n of_o death_n may_v and_o ought_v even_o with_o this_o only_a buckler_n beat_v back_o all_o those_o late_a temptation_n of_o satan_n avaunt_o satan_n for_o when_o i_o be_v yet_o deaf_a i_o hear_v one_o that_o say_v untoo_o i_o in_o the_o name_n and_o by_o the_o commandment_n of_o my_o saviour_n i_o baptise_v thou_o n._n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n this_o same_o baptism_n be_v untoo_o i_o a_o sure_a pledge_n that_o i_o be_o cleanse_v from_o all_o my_o sin_n and_o endue_v with_o the_o righteousness_n of_o my_o christ_n together_o with_o who_o i_o die_v and_o be_v bury_v i_o have_v now_o begin_v to_o arise_v again_o in_o my_o mind_n and_o shall_v full_o at_o the_o length_n also_o rise_v again_o in_o my_o flesh_n to_o everlasting_a life_n 158._o question_n but_o forasmuch_o as_o we_o sin_v every_o moment_n and_o our_o sin_n be_v wash_v away_o by_o baptism_n how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o often_o minister_v to_o one_o especial_o see_v we_o minister_v the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n oftentimes_o answer_n it_o be_v enough_o that_o we_o be_v once_o regenerate_v and_o enter_v intoo_o the_o church_n from_o whence_o none_o that_o be_v elect_v be_v cast_v out_o but_o to_o be_v feed_v once_o in_o the_o church_n suffice_v not_o 159._o question_n yea_o but_o do_v not_o sin_n shut_v we_o out_o of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n answer_n no_o not_o so_o for_o so_o none_o shall_v remain_v in_o the_o church_n forasmuch_o as_o every_o one_o be_v a_o liar_n that_o say_v he_o have_v no_o sin_n oursinne_v therefore_o indeed_o yea_o our_o least_o sin_n deserve_v a_o shut_n out_o from_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n but_o to_o the_o elect_a enjoy_v the_o favour_n of_o god_n they_o be_v not_o impute_v therefore_o saint_n paul_n say_v not_o rom._n 8._o 1_o that_o there_o be_v no_o sin_n but_o that_o there_o be_v no_o condemnation_n too_o they_o which_o be_v in_o christ_n jesus_n question_n let_v we_o therefore_o sin_n that_o grace_n may_v abound_v answer_n yea_o but_o christian_a faith_n can_v by_o no_o mean_n admit_v this_o for_o it_o believe_v nothing_o but_o that_o the_o word_n of_o promise_n offer_v now_o there_o be_v no_o promise_n of_o pardon_n but_o to_o those_o that_o repent_v and_o amend_v and_o none_o be_v further_o of_o from_o repentance_n and_o amendment_n than_o they_o that_o witting_o abuse_v the_o patience_n of_o god_n to_o sin_n therefore_o the_o gift_n of_o true_a repentance_n be_v also_o proper_o belong_v to_o the_o elect_a 160._o question_n but_o what_o will_v thou_o say_v of_o those_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v for_o the_o lawful_a judgement_n of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n do_v in_o the_o earth_n be_v ratify_v in_o the_o heaven_n matth._n 18._o 18._o now_o they_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o cor._n 5._o 1._o and_o therefore_o out_o of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n answer_n no_o man_n can_v more_o doubt_n that_o the_o judgement_n of_o lawful_a excommunication_n be_v ratify_v in_o the_o heaven_n then_o if_o the_o son_n of_o god_n himself_o shall_v pronounce_v the_o sentence_n forasmuch_o as_o the_o church_n do_v that_o which_o it_o do_v in_o his_o name_n yet_o notwithstanding_o thou_o gaine_v not_o that_o thou_o strive_v for_o for_o neither_o the_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v simple_o too_o be_v compare_v too_o branch_n now_o once_o simple_o cut_v of_o from_o the_o vine_n but_o too_o unfruitful_a branch_n which_o draw_v not_o ivyce_n out_o of_o the_o vine_n and_o therefore_o at_o length_n too_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o god_n unless_o they_o short_o sprowte_n again_o which_o appear_v by_o the_o fruit_n of_o repentance_n even_o like_a as_o it_o fall_v out_o too_o bow_n which_o in_o the_o winter_n time_n be_v as_o they_o be_v dead_a and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o in_o the_o spring_n time_n receive_v their_o former_a hue_n and_o liveliness_n again_o for_o those_o same_o gift_n of_o god_n be_v without_o repentance_n now_o if_o so_o be_v any_o continue_v unto_o the_o last_o in_o their_o stubborness_n it_o be_v a_o token_n that_o they_o be_v indeed_o for_o a_o time_n outward_o in_o the_o church_n but_o they_o be_v never_o of_o the_o church_n for_o they_o have_v abide_v with_o we_o say_v saint_n john_n or_o at_o least_o after_o their_o error_n they_o have_v return_v 14._o 1._o john_n 2._o 14._o unto_o we_o again_o if_o they_o have_v be_v of_o us._n 161._o question_n but_o now_o if_o baptism_n be_v therefore_o not_o to_o be_v often_o minister_v to_o one_o because_o the_o first_o entrance_n intoo_o the_o church_n can_v be_v frustrate_a why_o in_o like_a manner_n suffice_v it_o not_o once_o too_o have_v receive_v the_o supper_n forasmuch_o as_o he_o that_o be_v true_o once_o incorporate_v into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n can_v never_o altogether_o fall_v out_o of_o it_o answer_n we_o have_v tell_v the_o cause_n already_o for_o it_o be_v enough_o once_o to_o be_v bear_v again_o but_o not_o to_o be_v once_o nourish_v because_o as_o in_o this_o corporal_a life_n we_o must_v oftentimes_o take_v meat_n by_o the_o ivyce_n whereof_o we_o may_v be_v nourish_v so_o be_v incorporate_v into_o christ_n that_o we_o may_v more_o and_o more_o be_v quicken_v in_o he_o the_o often_o seal_v of_o that_o incorporation_n and_o as_o it_o be_v the_o nourish_a of_o faith_n be_v profitable_a notwithstanding_o these_o thing_n in_o this_o similitude_n be_v altogether_o diverse_a because_o this_o meat_n be_v corruptible_a which_o we_o use_v to_o the_o uphold_v of_o this_o life_n and_o therefore_o after_o the_o old_a another_o new_a always_o succeed_v but_o the_o inward_a meat_n which_o be_v give_v in_o the_o holy_a supper_n be_v incorruptible_a and_o therefore_o when_o the_o supper_n be_v often_o use_v neither_o be_v new_a meat_n receive_v nor_o that_o same_o first_o meat_n as_o it_o be_v before_o reject_v receive_v again_o but_o the_o same_o meat_n which_o we_o have_v take_v before_o be_v more_o and_o more_o as_o it_o be_v engraft_v in_o we_o and_o by_o faith_n be_v strengthen_v that_o so_o much_o the_o more_o effectual_o we_o may_v be_v nourish_v with_o that_o that_o be_v too_o say_v with_o christ_n to_o everlasting_a life_n 162._o question_n this_o be_v speak_v hitherto_o of_o baptism_n now_o let_v we_o come_v too_o the_o other_o sacrament_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n how_o shall_v we_o call_v that_o answer_n paul_n call_v it_o the_o supper_n of_o our_o lord_n 1._o cor._n 11_o 20._o because_o that_o at_o the_o first_o it_o be_v celebrate_v towards_o the_o evening_n by_o the_o lord_n which_o also_o be_v a_o long_a time_n observe_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n he_o likewise_o call_v it_o the_o table_n of_o the_o lord_n 1._o cor._n 10._o 21._o 163._o question_n and_o be_v it_o not_o otherwise_o call_v of_o the_o ancient_a father_n answer_n therefore_o also_o let_v we_o way_n these_o name_n certain_a man_n do_v in_o this_o argument_n reckon_v up_o the_o name_n of_o the_o liturgy_n or_o service_n of_o the_o synaxis_n or_o the_o gather_n together_o of_o the_o people_n &_o of_o agape_n the_o feast_n of_o love_n but_o in_o my_o judge_n mean_v not_o right_o enough_o for_o
whole_a life_n in_o christ_n alone_o 180._o question_n do_v thou_o therefore_o think_v the_o use_n of_o that_o wine_n to_o be_v as_o necessary_a as_o the_o use_n of_o that_o bread_n answer_n what_o else_o and_o therefore_o that_o the_o use_n of_o the_o cup_n be_v take_v from_o christian_n not_o without_o the_o instinct_n of_o satan_n of_o which_o matter_n we_o will_v speak_v in_o the_o refutation_n of_o abuse_n 181._o question_n but_o what_o do_v thou_o think_v of_o take_v the_o sacrament_n with_o the_o hand_n which_o also_o the_o romish_a church_n take_v away_o answer_n albeit_o i_o will_v not_o say_v that_o the_o take_n or_o touch_v with_o the_o hand_n be_v so_o precise_o necessary_a as_o the_o other_o sacramental_a rite_n for_o he_o also_o receyve_v that_o receive_v with_o his_o mouth_n yet_o notwithstanding_o i_o think_v that_o this_o also_o aught_o to_o be_v restore_v in_o the_o church_n for_o it_o be_v more_o plain_a than_o that_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v that_o the_o ancient_a &_o apostolical_a church_n do_v the_o same_o and_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o this_o same_o thrust_v of_o the_o bread_n into_o the_o mouth_n spring_v first_o from_o a_o certain_a preposterous_a and_o altogether_o superstitious_a reverence_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o though_o man_n be_v unworthy_a to_o handle_v the_o holy_a element_n when_o as_o notwithstanding_o the_o mouth_n be_v more_o impure_a than_o the_o hand_n to_o be_v short_a there_o be_v no_o man_n but_o see_v unless_o it_o be_v he_o which_o have_v no_o eye_n from_o whence_o this_o superstition_n come_v that_o same_o dote_a dream_n of_o transubstantiation_n once_o be_v receive_v 182._o question_n then_o thou_o much_o less_o allow_v the_o take_n away_o of_o the_o break_n of_o bread_n answer_n thou_o think_v right_o for_o this_o be_v take_v away_o the_o proportion_n or_o the_o analogy_n of_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n be_v take_v away_o as_o we_o have_v show_v before_o 183._o question_n to_o conclude_v they_o what_o think_v thou_o of_o that_o that_o eat_v be_v change_v into_o adoration_n care_v about_o &_o final_o into_o a_o oblation_n for_o the_o quick_a &_o the_o dead_a answer_n sure_o that_o satan_n have_v even_o pass_v himself_o by_o bring_v this_o impiety_n see_v that_o there_o be_v never_o any_o such_o gross_a idolatry_n hear_v of_o no_o not_o among_o the_o most_o profane_a gentile_n 184._o question_n go_v to_o then_o let_v we_o speak_v of_o the_o blessing_n or_o consecration_n answer_n why_o thou_o have_v already_o show_v what_o this_o thing_n be_v forasmuch_o as_o by_o the_o name_n of_o consecration_n be_v understand_v blessing_n question_n so_o then_o i_o suppose_v that_o thou_o call_v it_o that_o which_o the_o divine_v also_o call_v sanctification_n that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o translation_n from_o a_o common_a use_n to_o a_o holy_a worship_n of_o god_n but_o against_o this_o interpretation_n there_o be_v certain_a stop_n for_o the_o evangelist_n do_v use_v in_o this_o self_n same_o argument_n of_o the_o supper_n two_o greek_a word_n common_o and_o indifferent_o one_o for_o another_o the_o one_o to_o bless_v the_o other_o to_o give_v thanks_n now_o that_o these_o do_v differ_v within_o themselves_o it_o may_v special_o appear_v by_o this_o that_o to_o bless_v be_v always_o take_v transitive_o but_o to_o give_v thanks_n always_o intransitive_o moreover_o also_o that_o same_o common_a sanctification_n to_o wit_n whereby_o it_o be_v bring_v to_o pass_v that_o we_o may_v lawful_o use_v meat_n be_v manifest_o distinguish_v from_o thanks_o give_v and_o prayer_n as_o the_o consequent_a from_o the_o antecedent_n answer_n it_o be_v a_o usual_a thing_n with_o the_o hebrew_n who_o phrase_n the_o write_n of_o the_o apostle_n do_v savour_n of_o to_o understand_v the_o consequent_a by_o the_o antecedent_n therefore_o to_o give_v thanks_n albeit_o it_o be_v always_o set_v down_o absolute_o yet_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v take_v in_o this_o argument_n for_o to_o sanctify_v with_o thanks_n give_v and_o again_o this_o action_n of_o thanks_n give_v be_v speak_v general_o of_o prayer_n the_o apostle_n use_v the_o name_n of_o intercession_n though_o in_o a_o unequal_a thing_n yet_o not_o altogether_o unlyke_a so_o also_o to_o bless_v when_o it_o be_v attribute_v to_o god_n be_v take_v for_o too_o sanctify_v moses_n himself_o be_v interpreter_n gen._n 2._o verse_n 3._o question_n but_o that_o christ_n in_o the_o history_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n speak_v as_o a_o mediator_n &_o as_o man_n hereby_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o evangelist_n as_o i_o have_v say_v use_v this_o word_n to_o give_v thanks_n indifferent_o which_o by_o no_o mean_n can_v be_v attribute_v to_o god_n answer_n thou_o think_v right_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o in_o paul_n 1_o cor._n 10._o 16._o that_o which_o we_o bless_v oecumenius_n have_v interpret_v out_o of_o the_o hebrew_n phrase_n and_o manner_n of_o speech_n that_o which_o we_o prepare_v by_o blessing_n now_o blessing_n be_v refer_v partly_o to_o god_n and_o partly_o to_o the_o element_n themselves_o as_o it_o be_v first_o institute_v of_o christ_n in_o this_o matter_n as_o he_o who_o after_o his_o manner_n first_o bless_v god_n his_o father_n that_o be_v to_o say_v give_v he_o thanks_n in_o which_o respect_n also_o this_o mystery_n may_v be_v call_v a_o sacrifice_n of_o praise_n and_o thanksgiving_n and_o therewithal_o that_o the_o son_n as_o the_o lord_n of_o his_o father_n household_n may_v sanctify_v the_o element_n take_v that_o they_o may_v not_o be_v that_o which_o they_o be_v by_o nature_n but_o may_v begin_v to_o be_v that_o sacramental_o to_o which_o aswell_o in_o signify_v as_o in_o give_v and_o seal_v they_o be_v by_o his_o will_n appoint_v so_o as_o also_o they_o may_v take_v the_o very_a name_n of_o the_o thing_n signify_v as_o if_o they_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n that_o sacramental_o they_o signify_v now_o that_o which_o be_v then_o first_o institute_v and_o do_v of_o he_o as_o it_o be_v perform_v by_o his_o commandment_n so_o also_o it_o be_v perform_v by_o his_o power_n as_o of_o he_o who_o have_v say_v do_v this_o 185._o question_n but_o of_o this_o blessing_n there_o be_v no_o certain_a form_n prescribe_v special_o concern_v the_o action_n of_o give_v of_o thanks_n answer_n i_o grant_v it_o therefore_o it_o be_v free_a for_o the_o church_n to_o prescribe_v a_o form_n of_o so_o many_o and_o so_o great_a benefit_n as_o be_v think_v expedient_a so_o that_o in_o the_o very_a substance_n of_o the_o matter_n they_o go_v not_o any_o whit_n from_o the_o write_a word_n and_o hereupon_o not_o only_o that_o canon_n which_o they_o call_v the_o greek_a and_o latin_a canon_n but_o also_o those_o manifold_a liturgy_n or_o form_z of_o prayer_n call_v by_o that_o name_n be_v increase_v interline_v and_o corrupt_v by_o little_a and_o little_a that_o not_o only_o they_o become_v the_o very_a sink_n of_o all_o superstition_n but_o also_o of_o all_o ungodliness_n 186._o question_n but_o be_v there_o not_o also_o some_o kind_n of_o form_n prescribe_v of_o the_o sacramental_a benediction_n answer_n yes_o certes_o it_o be_v prescribe_v in_o plain_a word_n of_o the_o three_o evangelist_n and_o of_o paul_n question_n but_o why_o rather_o of_o this_o then_o of_o that_o answer_n because_o it_o only_o belong_v unto_o christ_n to_o constitute_v and_o appoint_v sacrament_n by_o prescript_n word_n of_o himself_o least_o while_o we_o vary_v from_o the_o word_n we_o also_o stray_n from_o his_o will_n now_o it_o be_v not_o needful_a to_o prescribe_v certain_a set_v word_n which_o we_o shall_v use_v in_o the_o expound_v of_o his_o institution_n in_o prayer_n &_o in_o give_v of_o thanks_n therefore_o it_o ought_v to_o suffice_v we_o to_o have_v those_o thing_n prescribe_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n whereof_o we_o ought_v to_o require_v those_o of_o we_o 187._o question_n and_o what_o be_v that_o same_o sacramental_a form_n answer_n even_o the_o same_o that_o be_v prescribe_v of_o the_o three_o evangelist_n and_o of_o saint_a paul_n 188._o question_n and_o yet_o these_o do_v somewhat_o vary_v among_o themselves_o in_o word_n answer_n but_o in_o the_o matter_n itself_o they_o vary_v not_o any_o whit_n at_o all_o therefore_o it_o skill_v not_o which_o of_o these_o thou_o follow_v but_o this_o same_o little_a variety_n in_o word_n show_v that_o we_o must_v not_o stick_v in_o the_o syllable_n themselves_o which_o be_v altogether_o magical_a but_o we_o must_v mark_v the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n neither_o for_o all_o that_o be_v it_o lawful_a for_o we_o to_o go_v any_o whit_n from_o the_o prescript_n word_n 189._o question_n think_v thou_o not_o then_o these_o word_n be_v work_v and_o effectual_a word_n answer_n no_o indeed_o if_o thou_o call_v they_o work_v word_n wherein_o there_o shall_v be_v some_o work_v