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A06481 A persuasion from papistrie vvrytten chiefely to the obstinate, determined, and dysobedient English papists, who are herein named & proued English enimies and extreme enimies to Englande. Which persuasion, all the Queenes Maiesties subiectes, fauoring the Pope or his religion, will reade or heare aduisedlye ... Lupton, Thomas. 1581 (1581) STC 16950; ESTC S108934 242,044 324

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Pope knewe that it was a good way to bring him in credite For if kings rulers and Lords of the earth which may be deceiued do chose as nie as they can their most dearest and trustiest friendes to bée their presedents and deputies then I am sure that Christ the sonne of God and the King of all Kings that can not be deceiued if he had ment to haue had a general vickar on the earth woulde haue made one of his dearest and trustiest friendes his vickar and not his mortal enimie And therfore the Pope may saye what he wil but al wise men do sée that Christ neither takes him for his vickar nor yet for his Curate Can he or his chaplaines be the children of God that prefers ignorance before knowledge I think not some of them haue affirmed that ignorance is the mother of deuotion O Lord how contrarie are these mē both to God and to his son Christ nay ignorāce of Gods word is rather the mother of mischiefe the father of falsehoode the sister of sinne the son of sedition the daughter of disobediency the coosin of conspiracie and the Captaine of crueltie Ful wel the Diuel knew that ignoraunce was the next way to bring the Pope to promotion and the people to destruction for their ignorance made them thinke that none but the Pope or his Prelats did know the truth And their blindnesse did make them beléeue that none did sée perfectly but he and his pretious Prelates So that for wante of knowledge of Gods word which of purpose they kept frō them they beléeued that al they spake was true and that it was the very right way that they did lead them So that the peoples ignoraunce was the occasion of the Popes credite his credite the cause of his gaine his gaine the cause of his power his power th● cause of his pride his pride the cause he made Emperours and Kings his seruauntes or rather slaues and thus the ignoraunce of Gods worde brought the Pope to promotion the Princes to subiection and the people to destruction And if you mark wel you may perceyue that the Popes suppressing and the keeping of Gods worde from the people is a manifest argument that he is neither Christs vickar nor his deputie nor that he loues Christe For Christe sayde to Peter louest thou mee to whome Peter sayde yea Lorde thou knowest that I loue thee then Christ saide to him againe Feede my sheepe c. So that Peters loue to Christ appeared by féeding of Christes shéepe whiche was not by féeding their bodies with meate and drinke but by féeding their soules through preching to them the Gospel Now if they loue Christe that féede his shéepe then they must néedes hate Christ that starue his shéepe neuer preching to them at all And such a one is the Pope for he neuer preacheth therfore he neuer féedes Christs shéepe Nay besides that he doth not only trouble molest hurt burne and kill suche as do or would féede Christes shéepe but also hideth kéepeth backe and burnes the Bybles and Testaments leaste the people shoulde loke on them and féede themselues So that here it is manifeste that the Pope loues not Christ bycause he féedes not Christes shéepe And he that loues not Christe muste néedes hate Christe and therefore the Pope being Christes enimie can not be the vickar of Christ. And here also is a great contrarietie betwéene Peter the Pope though he claime to be Peters successor for Peter loued Christ for that he fed Christs shéepe but y e Pope hateth Christ bycause he sterueth his shéepe yea and also kils his shéepe So that the Pope doth not succede Peter in any thing vnlesse it be in denying of Christ. Here it plainely appeareth that the Pope maye wel be the Uicar of the Diuel for Christes Uickar sure he can not be I am moste certaine that it was Christes wil that hys word should not be kept from any though it be the Popes will it should be rightly knowen of any For would Christ haue vs kepe that we neuer heard of and would he haue vs searche we know not what no Christe was neuer so vnreasonable For Christ sayth vnto vs all If you loue me keepe my commaundements that is whatsoeuer he hath willed by his word But how can we knowe what is his commandements y t we should kéep if none declare thē vnto vs neither read thē our selues nor yet haue thē red vnto vs Therfore if our louing of Christ depēd on y e kéeping of his cōmandements thē how cā we loue him séeing we can not knowe his commaundements So that y e Popes kéeping or hurding of Gods word from the people is the cause they can not kéepe Gods commaundementes And their not kéeping of Gods commaundements is the cause they doe not loue him and their not louing of him is the cause that he hates them and his hating of them will be the cause of their dampnation And thus the Pope is the first worker of the ignorant peoples damnation Christ saith also Search the Scriptures for they are they that witnesse of me but how can they search the Scripturs that haue not the Scriptures to search neyther know how to come by them now if the Scriptures witnesse what is Christes wil and pleasure and if their searching and looking therein wil shew them how to performe his wil and please him and the pleasing of him would be the cause of their saluation Then the Popes hiding and kéeping the Scripturs from them is the cause they cānot heare read or search the Scripturs and not hearing reading or searching of the Scriptures is the cause they cannot know the wil of Christe and the not knowing the wil of Christe is the cause they can not please him and their not pleasing of him is the cause they please the Diuel and the pleasing of y e Diuel is y e cause of their dānation And thus once again y e Pope is the chief cause of the ignorant peoples dānation Christe saith also Blessed are they that heare the word of God and keepe it so that they that heare the worde of God and kéepe it not are vnhappy Nowe if all they that heare the worde of God are not happy then all they that heare not the worde of God muste néedes be vnhappy for there are none happy but they that kéepe or folow the word of God but howe can they kéepe the word of God that neither heare it nor reade it Nowe if the hearing of Gods worde is the cause that they kéepe it and their kéeping or following of it is the cause they are happye or blessed then the Popes restrayning of Gods word frō the people is the cause they doe not heare it and their not hearing it is the cause they cannot kéepe or followe it and their not kéeping or following of it is the cause they are vnhappy and theyr vnhappinesse is the cause of their damnatiō
sunder Priestes from their wiues saying He placeth strumpets before honest wiues and fornication incest and aduoutry before Chast marriage What neede wee manye wordes in so cleare a case the whole practise of your Church M. Harding professeth the same If a Priest marrie a wife yee suspende him yee excommunicate him yee depriue him ye disquiet him and trouble the whole Church But if he keepe a Concubine one two or three ye are then contented and readie not onely to dissemble it but also with fauour to excuse it Thus much Master Iewel against Maister Harding I heard it credibly tolde that a certaine married Priest came in Quéene Maries time to Doctour Bonner then Bishop of London bringing a letter with hym from a gentleman that was wel acquainted with the Bishop which letter was to desire the sayd Bishop Bonner to be good to the Prieste for the admitting of him into a certaine benefice that he required which letter y e Bishop louingly rece●ued willingly red which done the Bi. shewed a louing countenaunce vpon y e Priest bidding him to come again to him another time then he would answere him what he wold do As soone as the saide Priest was gone there was one y t was in cōpany of the B. that knew the Prieste who sayde vnto the Bishop my Lord if you let him haue the benefice you know not what you do why said the Bishop forsoothe my Lord sayd he bycause he is a married Prieste is he so said y e Bishop now afore God let me alone y e knaue wil come to me againe And then after within thrée or foure days the same Priest came again to Bonner the Bishop of London Ah sirra said y e B. you are euen he y t I loke for you are a married knaue you no my Lord said the Priest y t is vntrue whosoeuer told it to your Lordship no said the B. it is credibly told me y t you are a married Priest truely said the Priest I had a woman I must néeds confesse but I neuer toke hir for my wife but for my Harlot no sayd the B. I pray God it be no worse I pray God it be no worse and so went casting his armes abrode saying stil I pray God it be no worse as though to haue a wife was worse than to kepe a whore Whether this honest chaste Prieste sped of that he came to the Bishoppe for I knowe not but the Bishop was better pleased with him for saying that he toke hir for his whore than if he hadde sayde that she was hys wife Thus you maye well perceiue that thoughe the Popes shew a face of chastitie by restrayning of Priests from mariage yet both he and his Prelates preferre and mainetaine abhominable whoredome as by the sequele it shall more manifestly appeare Upon the Legantine constructions of Otho ye maye finde these words noted in the glose Whether may a Priest be forced to forsweare his Cōcubine or not it seemeth saith the glose that he may not the resolution hereof is this If a Priest haue married a wife in this case he is forced to forsake hir by an othe Thus these holye Fathers forbidde not fornication nor aduoutrye nor they maye not take an othe to putte their Harlots away but they muste sweare to put away their wiues and to forsake them If Saint Paul had the holy ghost then this Popes lawe is the doctrine of Diuels Further the glose sayth but marke it wel for it is good doctrine It seemeth that the Church of Rome ought to dissemble the falt of whoredome or else it is not worthye to be Sathans Synagoge for the Popes Marshal in deede receiueth tribute or pention of whores Is not this holy father worthye to beléeued estéemed and honored of you as a GOD or Christs own vickar that mayntaines Stewes and brothell houses and takes yearelye rente for whoredome you shal not finde in all the Scripturs that God did either appointe it but plainly forbad it or that eyther Christ or Saint Peter who they say was the first Pope did euer permit or allow it or got money on that fashion Yet Maister Harding woulde fayne excuse the Pope for the kéeping of his Stewes and therefore he sayth thus as followeth Wherefore is the Bishoppe of Rome more to bee blamed for maynetenaunce of his Stewes than the Frenche King or the King of Spayne well sayde Mayster Harding it is spoken like a Diuine Doctour you haue w t no small consideration allowed the Popes Stewes For though the French King and King of Spayne can learne no chastitie of y e Pope yet the Pope may learne Whoredome of the French King of the king Spaine But me thinks the Frenche King and the King of Spaine mighte saye thus rather why maye not we maintayne whoredome and open Stewes as well as our holye Father the Pope for if it were not good and lawful he being Christs vickar would neither vse it nor suffer it This had bene more méete for a lerned Doctour to haue said though not for a Catholike Doctour God sayde vnto the Iewes There shal bee no whore of the daughters of Israell nor anye whore-keeper of the sonnes of Israel Yea but the Pope and his glosers may glose this saying well ynoughe for they may saye that the Pope nor his Prelates nor Priestes that are within hys Uickaredge or Dioces are no Iewes nor are the sonnes or daughters of Iacob Therefore they are none of the sonnes or daughters of Israel and so they maye kéepe whores and playe the Harlots well ynough and bicause Gods law doth not touche them therfore the Popes law doth allow them Marke here what a straight law was made against women for lying with Priests In a prouinciall Councel holden at Oxford it is written thus Let Priests Cuncubine● be warned by the Archdeacon c. if they wil not amend then let them bee forbidden to kisse the Pax and to take holye breade in the Church was not this a grieuous and sore punishment to make Harlots refuse their whoredome wyth Priests did their Harlots care so much for kissing of the Pax that they woulde forsake the kissing of Priests no I warrant you and therfore this hard and straight law was made As good a law to auoyde drūknesse were this whosoeuer wil not forbeare drinking of wine wherby they become drunke let them in no wise be suffred to drink water this is as good a law to suppresse drunkennesse as their law at Oxford was to auoyde whoredome Saint Paul sayth It is better to marry than to burne but the Pope is of a clean contrary spyrite and iudgement For his lawes and his déedes shewes that it is better to burne in concupiscence than to marry But if Saint Pauls words be turned cleane backward they will be the Popes owne law And though the Popes law is quite contrary to gods law yet I dare vndertake to make the Popes law