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A04695 A contrarye (to a certayne manis) consultacion: that adulterers ought to be punyshed wyth deathe Wyth the solucions of his argumentes for the contrarye. Made by George Ioye. Joye, George, d. 1553. 1549 (1549) STC 14822; ESTC S120472 40,793 110

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feared as Paul writeth leste he shoulde haue ben swalowed vp of desperaciō yf co●̄fort and prayer of y ● church had not preuented it and what a deathe had it bene to an hardnecked impenitent persone beyng in Satans hande refusinge all holsome counsels comfort and prayers not sufferinge the kayes of losinge to turne in his hert Suche there are amonge oure Adulterers For this was Paul accused of seuerite and cruelnes of the false prophetes Yf there be an open accustomed Adulterer a sclaunder and poyson to the congregacion why shal not the ecclesiastick ministers delyuer him into y ● seclare Magistrates handes to be punished with the swerde as they haue done with other offenders Christ byddeth vs to take suche impenitent and intractable persons as heathen and publicans and yet in so doing make we not oure selues Gods on the earthe nor set forth our owne honesty in promouinge their mischiefe to them that be bounde to punishe it as you saye The lawe is that yf I ●nowe a●ny suche opē sy●ners against God and the publique welthe and hold my tonge it is iudged that I consent therto and ought therfore to be punished a lyke For religion faith and loue mutual commaund vs to not suffer such vngodlines which els should grow into forther destruccion This mālayth muche for him the examples of the apostles but he seeth not the seuerite of Peter endued with the holy Ghost smy●inge with so soden death Ananias and Sapphira for their dissemblinge hyppocrisy with the church which was done leste the softenes and to●●che fauor by the apostles amonge offenders winking at open sinners shoulde growe into contempte of God and his worde as it is nowe come to the same by sufferynge adulterers vnpunished He seith not Paul punishing eliman with perpetual blindnes Then he bringeth in Dauid and Solomon with their greuouse offences vnder Moses lawe and yet non of the prophetes sayth he were so cruel vpon them as to punishe them but with Goddes worde And what els desyer we then that Adulterers might be punished accordinge to Goddes worde Nathan so punished Dauid in his reprehensiō that he caused him to geue the se●tence of deathe vpon him selfe for his adultery And what a punishement was it to ensuer him the swerde neuer to go from his house for slaying Vrias And for his adultery god to stere vp his own sons to abuse his wiues brother to defile his syster one brother to slay another and to lay Dauids synnes in the open sonne and his owne sonne to chase his father oute of his realme What plages deathes and hel● paynes were inflict by the prophetes to Dauid his heauye complayntes in his psalmes declare Would god this good mā w t al the professors of the word woulde do Nathans parte in sharpe rebukinge adulterye this daye and not so to mitigate the synne that the punishmēt therfore of God were nowe abrogated as thoughe it were not now so greuouse a synne as it was in Moses tyme. Solom on his kingedome was diuided his seruaunt raig●inge after him What punishement came vpon Ieroboam by the monicion of the prophetes rebuking the kynge And yet sayth this man the prophetes shewed no seuerite to the kinges but al softenes and mercie And are not al these thinges writen for our doctrine and ensample so to do Howe vehemente and sharpe were the prophetes Elias Isai Hi●remy and the other in rebuking and condemp●ing sinne Compare your defence of Adulterers to their sharpe sermons and they agre as Belial christ Where was youre Leuite when Eias slewe the prophetes of Baal and and when Ioiada Athaliam And what punishment casted Eliseus vpō Gihafi and his seade for takinge giftes of Naaman Now yf Christ hath abolished the punishment for Adulterers and expressed and decreed an easier ye must shewe the place and then we must beleue you or els we must stand to the eternal will of God remitting you to the first original lawe and ordinaunce of God We shoulde consyder the circumstances of the synne howe greuouse it is who decreed the payne for it how ranckly it roteth spredeth and eucreaseth yea and y t emonge them that shoulde geue the best example and should se it punished And then shoulde it be sene to al godly rulers that the sore asketh a sharper corrasie then your boke sheweth or maketh For iudgementes punishmentes are moste necessary in the offices of the magistrates albe it they feme to some fonde pituose persous hard and cruel Neuertheles except suche cruell sharpnes be executed all men are lyke to fele more harde and crueller plages It is no crueltie which at the commanndent of the Lorde is executed for the preseruacyon of comon wealthes and publique ●ra●●uillite He maketh a greate difference betwixt the olde and newe testameut and yet knoweth not what a testament is and sayth that in the old testament the grace of the Gospell was not shewed to the worlde Yf he taketh the worlde for all men good and bad so is it not yet reueled to it For to them that shut vp their eyes blindened of the God of this worlde and stop their eares at the preachinge therof it is yet houered But in the olde testament to Adam Abel Enoch and Helias c. and to al the chosen faythfull the Gospel of Christ to come was shewed For they were al vnder the grace of the Gospell and not vnder the lawe For the olde newe couenant in Christe was all one in substaunce to them and vs and differ not but in certayne accidentay added ceremonies rites and respectes of the time and persones For the Hebrew Greke worde whiche is comonly translated into Testamentum signifieth properly foedus a couenaunte or bargin made and ●●●●iten testified with certayne instrumentes promises and condicions write and sealled which couenant is al one in substance to them and vs as it appereth Gene .xvij. Nomeruel though this man erreth so muche in the nocables testamētum lex For I herde him once saye It is but a friuole curiose thinge in readinge of the scriptures to expoune and declare the ●ermes But al learned writers wyl saye that the termes or wordes not known what they properly signifie the sentences shal neuer be truly vnderstanden Then he sayth The people of Christ is a mystike diuine flok c. and therfore must be fed w t Gods worde c. All this we knowe as wel as you and that ye ought not to fede them with such false doctrine as to say and wryte That the Professors and Disciples of Christ ought not to iustigate and exhorte the Magistrates to punishe adultery w t deathe And that it is to cruell a punishment orde●ed of God for thē in his law and therfore to be nowe abrogated But whether your Adulterers whose cause ye defende beinge impemteut in●urated and not receyuers of the worde determining rather to lyue with whores then with their owne wyues be of Christes flok and be