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A40199 Here is declared the manner of the naming of children in the old time without a priest sprinkling them with water which now is, and hath been in these times, yet they have the Scriptures, but shew their contrary walking to Scripture, and also the practice of the holy men of God by Scripture ... / by G.F. Fox, George, 1624-1691. 1658 (1658) Wing F1840; ESTC R36515 8,039 8

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HERE IS DECLARED The manner of the naming of CHILDREN IN The old time without a Priest sprinkling them with Water which now is and hath been in these times yet they have the Scriptures but shews their contrary walking to Scripture And also the Practise of the holy men of God by Scripture How that God named Adam and Adam gave Names and men and women gave names to children And how Angels was sent to some to tell them what their Names should be vvithout God-fathers or God-mothers or Sureties or Priests to sprinkle them with Water Which shevvs They that have God-fathers and God-mothers and Gossips and use Priests to sprinkle them are contrary to Scripture and the practise of the holy men of God as you may read in the follovving Treatise With an Addition of the spevving and vomiting and drunkenness of all Professions Thus saith the Lord Learn not the way of the Heathen for the customs of the people are vain Ier. 10.2 3. VVhy do you transgress the commandment of God by your tradition Matt. 15.3 Given forth by G. F. LONDON Printed for Thomas Simmons at the Bull and Mouth near Aldersgate 1658. Here is declared the manner of the naming of Children in the old Time without a Priest sprinkling them with Water c. IN the day that God created man Gen. 5. in the likeness of God made he him a male and female and blessed them and called their n●●e Adam in that day when he created them God gave unto them their names and God brought every beast of the field and every fowl of the ayre which he had formed out of the ground to see what Adam would call them and whatsoever Adam would call them and whatsoever Adam called them Adam ●ave them Names Gen. 2. all the fowls of the ayre and all the beasts of the field whatsoever Adam called every living creature that was his name Adam said This is bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh she shall be called Woman because she is taken out of man and Adam called his wifes name Eve And Adam begat a Son in his own image after his likeness and called his name Seth. And Seth to him also was born a son and he called his name Enos Gen 4. Now here was no Priest spoken of to sprinkle them with water nor no Sureties no Gossips nor circumcision but their father gave them their names so the Lord gave Adam his name and he did give names to his children without a Priest Neither do we read that here were God-fathers or God-mothers and is it not blasphemy to say God hath a father or God hath a mother If you say it is not Who is Gods father and where is his mother And if you say it is blot it out of your Catechism you teach your children Gen. 16. And the Angel of the Lord said unto Hagar Thou shalt have a Son and call his name Ishmael Here the Angel taught her what to call her child and not a God-father or a God-mother as you call them And Hagar bare a son and called his name Ishmael according to the word of the Angel of the Lord. And God said Gen. 17. Sarah thy Wife shall bare a son indeed and thou shalt call his name Isaac Here God taught Abraham what he should call his sons name and he obeyed the voice of God and you do not read that he did seeke to a God-father or God-mother or sprinkled him with water And the two daughters of Lot which bare two sons which called the name of the one Moab and the name of the other Ben-ammi when that they said there was not a man in the earth to come in unto them Gen. 19. what Priest was there to sprinkle them Or who was there then to be their God-fathers or God-mothers But they called their children by their names and Abraham called his sons name which Sarah bare to him Isaac Ge● 〈…〉 but no talk of a Priest or of sprinkling with water And Rebecca bare two boys unto Isaac and the first he called Esau Gen. 〈…〉 and the second he called Iacob and here again is no talk of a priest nor water nor of God-fathers or God-mothers And Laban had two daughters the name of the one was Leah and the name of the other was Rachel but it doth not say there was any priest or water sprinkling of them at their naming And Leah conceived and bare a son and she called his name Ruben mark Gen. 〈…〉 She called his name It was she that gave the name here She conceived again and bare another son and called his name Simeon Mark She again conceived and bare a son and called his name Levi mark she again gave his name She again conceived and bare a son and called his name Iudah Now here was no speech of God-fathers or God-mothers or Priests to have mony for sprinkling them nor sureties their names were recorded And Rachel bare Jacob a son Rachel called his name Dan and she conceived again and bare Jacob a second son and Rachel called his name Napthali And Zilpah bare a son and Leah called his name Gad And Zilpah bare a second son and Leah called his name Asher And Leah she conceived and bare Jacob a fifth son and called his name Issachar And Leah conceived again and bare a son and called his name Zebulon and after she bare a daughter and called her name Dinah Now here was no priest nor talk of God-fathers nor God-mothers but the women named their children Rachel conceived and she bare a son and called his name Joseph Mark she called his name Ioseph Here is no speech of God-fathers and God-mothers to name him neither of a priest to sprinkle Now if you follow the example of Scripture they will lead you from God-fathers and God-mothers and Priests to sprinkle your children And Rachel travelled and brought forth a son and she called his name Ben-oni but his father called his name Benjamin Gen. 35. here is no talk of God-fathers or God-mothers or a priest And Iudah took Shuah and she bare a son and he called his name Er. And she concived again and bare a son and she called his name Onon mark Gen. 38. she called his name And she conceived again and bare a son and she called his name Shelah Tamar bare two children the name of the first was called Pharize and the name of the other Zarah And unto Ioseph was born two sons and they called the name of the one Manasses Gen. 41. and the name of the other called he Ephraim Now here is no talk of God-fathers or God mothers or priests to sprinkle them And Moses Ziporah bare a son to him and he called his name Garshon And here is no talk of a priest likewise with his water nor of God-fathers nor God-mothers nor Gossips nor Priests Churching nor Christning money And Pharoah's daughter to Moses which became her son she
called Moses Exod. 2. mark she called him Moses no God-fathers or God-mothers And Man●ahs wife she bare a son 〈◊〉 13. according as the Angel spake and she called his name Sampson Here was no priest to sprinkle it nor God-fathers nor God-mothers spoken of 〈◊〉 4. And Ruth bare a son and they called his name Obed the father of Iesse And the Lord visited Hannah and she conceived and bare a son … n. 1. ●●ron 7. and called his name Samuel And Maachah bare a son to Machir and she called his name Peresh and the name of his brother was Sheresh Mark here she called his name And again 1 Chron. 7. Ephraims wife bare him a son and he called his name Beriah And the Lord spake to Isaiah who declared the name of Christ as you may read Matth. 1. And the Angel of the Lord said Thou shalt call his Name Iesus And it doth not say here was a priest to sprinkle with water or any God-fathers or God-mothers And the Angel of the Lord told Zacharias he should have a son and he should call his name Iohn and they called his name Zacharias and they made signs to his father ●●ke 1. and Zacharias called for a writing-table and wrote and said His name is Iohn Now you may see all along where ever they had any priests to sprinkle their children for money or with a little water as the priests now in England or elsewhere doth and God-fathers and God-mothers as they had but sometimes the Lord did direct the people what to call their children and sometimes the fathers named their children and sometimes the mothers named them without God-fathers or God-mothers and without a Priest to sprinkle them and these were not heathen for sometimes the Angel of the Lord came and told them what they should call them and sometimes some that took their children as Pharoah's daughter that took Moses and called him Moses Moses was not a heathen nor Sampson was not a heathen nor Abel nor Abraham nor Seth nor Enoch nor Samuel nor Iacob nor Isaac nor John was not a heathen and the Angel named Christ now these were not heathen Now you that say they are heathen because your priests have not thrown a little water upon their faces and have not God-fathers or God-mothers Are not you blasphemers of God and contrary-walkers to Scriptures Where did any in ages past sprinkle any of their children and they have wages for it and say then it is Christened in the dayes before the Law and in the Law or in the days of the Prophets Christ or the Apostles Where is there any such Scripture as saith Christen or sprinkle Infants And is not your sprinkling of Infants as superstitious as the Papists who dips their faces in the Fonts and spits upon their noses and under both their ears and puts a little salt in their mouths How long is it since your priests hath left crossing of their children when they christened them And do not the Jesuit Priests do the same wherein do you differ from them seeing you have quoted them What Scripture have you for this for crossing your children when you christen them as you call it Is it not popery And was not the Pope the Mother and Father of it And did not you act as servants for him in doing that What priests in all the Scripture had money for burying the dead and a Clark to say Amen and eight or ten shillings for preaching over the dead Where had any of the Prophets Christ or the Apostles an Hour-Glass some preach by the hour have ten shillings or twenty shillings at a time for their preaching are not they them that are given to filthy lucre that buy and sell Are not you like to Simon Magus that would buy the gift of God with money and sell it and set it at a price which thought the gift of God might be bought and sold for money Doth not or may not all people here see you have not the gift of God which are buying and selling it for money which it cannot be Come What Scripture have you for your name Sacrament Doth not these come from the Papists Did ever Christ the Prophets or Apostles preach by the hour or prison any or persecute any that had spoke to them in the hour and the Papists law to uphold to the end of your hour as the worlds Teachers hath in these days Do not you love the wages of unrighteousness that have so much silver for preaching an hour Are not you such Teachers as preach for hire and divine for money Such Hirelings as will flye if you can hear of a bigger Benefice And are you not such shepherds as seeks for your gain from your quarter And take away your gain and you shepherds will flye from your flock And are you not such as bear rule by your means And take away your means and the Priest is gone leaves the people and such as divines for money take away your money and you are gone and leave the people all on heaps to look upon walls And hath there not been such Teachers in Ages past And was not they and the people offended at them that cryed against them in ages past and persecuted them and stock't them and put them in Dungeons And doth not the people now rage against them that cry against such now in this age and put them in prison in Holes and Corners for crying against such as the Prophets cryed against And are not such now to be cryed against in this age Are such to be held up by them that be in the life of God as they were that gave forth the Scripture Here all ye priests are proved to be contrary to the Scripture out of the New Testament and Old Christening is a name which you have had from the Pope Are not you false priests and teachers and ministers and prophets and apostles that will quench the spirit and limit the Holy One and despise prophesying and despise revelation and quench the just Hath not your fruits made you manifest And do not you pretend a gift and set sale of it in every parish and so sell it for Tythes Glebe-lands Easter-reckonings Midsummer-dues stipends or great sums of moneys and sell it by the Hour-glasse giving the people two glasses a day and sometimes but one and when the glass is run then Neighbors the time is spent And do you pray or preach or sing or preach without money and if any speak to you in the time of your glass he is disturbed in his merchandizing and is in confusion in Babylon When such as are moved of the Lord God in the unlimited spirit to witness against such things those you imprison Circumcision nor uncircumcision avails not any thing but a new creature The children was named before circumcision came in which they say the baptism succeeded Abel and Enoch and Enos and Abraham and many which God gave them Wisdom to name