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can_v bring_v forth_o nothing_o that_o be_v good_a or_o godly_a 6.5_o gen._n 6.5_o such_o be_v that_o all_o the_o imagination_n of_o the_o thought_n of_o man_n heart_n be_v only_o evil_a always_o and_o that_o also_o 8.21_o gen._n 8.21_o the_o imagination_n of_o man_n heart_n be_v evil_a from_o his_o youth_n whereby_o we_o must_v needs_o confess_v and_o acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v true_a that_o we_o be_v not_o sufficient_a of_o ourselves_o to_o think_v any_o thing_n as_o of_o ourselves_o 3.5_o 2._o cor._n 3.5_o in_o those_o thing_n that_o belong_v unto_o true_a godliness_n and_o why_o because_o that_o by_o one_o man_n sin_n enter_v into_o the_o world_n 5.12.18_o rom._n 5.12.18_o and_o by_o the_o offence_n of_o one_o the_o fault_n come_v on_o all_o man_n to_o condemnation_n in_o this_o respect_n the_o apostle_n call_v such_o as_o be_v not_o regenerate_v enemy_n to_o god_n the_o child_n of_o wrath_n by_o nature_n vessel_n of_o dishonour_n and_o by_o such_o like_a name_n whereby_o he_o 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our_o mind_n and_o lead_v we_o captive_a to_o the_o law_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v in_o our_o member_n insomuch_o as_o we_o be_v force_v not_o only_o to_o cry_v out_o with_o the_o prophet_n david_n 19.12_o psal_n 19.12_o who_o can_v understand_v his_o fault_n cleanse_v i_o from_o secret_a fault_n but_o also_o continual_o to_o pray_v as_o christ_n will_v we_o forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n 12.1_o heb._n 12.1_o for_o sin_n hang_v so_o fast_o on_o we_o that_o even_o when_o we_o will_v do_v good_a 2d_o rom._n 7_o 2d_o then_o evil_a be_v present_a with_o us._n and_o therefore_o well_o may_v our_o spirit_n strive_v that_o the_o flesh_n prevail_v not_o and_o the_o new_a man_n wax_v every_o day_n strong_a against_o the_o old_a man_n yet_o so_o long_o as_o we_o carry_v about_o with_o we_o this_o body_n subject_a to_o corruption_n satan_n will_v not_o leave_v buffet_n we_o sin_n will_v not_o cease_v to_o assault_v us._n but_o as_o a_o froward_a and_o cruel_a enemy_n even_o then_o when_o it_o 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out_o of_o the_o treasure_n of_o his_o heart_n bring_v forth_o evil_a it_o be_v then_o most_o certain_a that_o where_o the_o spirit_n of_o regeneration_n be_v not_o to_o sanctify_v the_o heart_n as_o in_o the_o infidel_n it_o be_v not_o we_o can_v look_v for_o no_o work_n but_o such_o as_o proceed_v from_o that_o bitter_a root_n of_o sin_n which_o must_v needs_o be_v evil_a and_o unsavourie_a before_o god_n it_o may_v just_o be_v wonder_v at_o why_o they_o who_o take_v upon_o they_o the_o name_n of_o holy_a catholic_a church_n &_o such_o as_o account_v themselves_o the_o member_n thereof_o do_v so_o stiff_o and_o stubborne_o maintain_v so_o bad_a a_o cause_n and_o defend_v yea_o commend_v the_o action_n of_o such_o godless_a man_n for_o not_o only_o the_o particular_a writer_n among_o they_o excuse_v from_o sin_n the_o action_n of_o infidel_n 57_o sess_n 6._o can_n 57_o but_o also_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n do_v hold_v they_o all_o accurse_a that_o dare_v say_v they_o be_v true_o 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that_o it_o seem_v unanswerable_a even_o in_o that_o respect_n that_o he_o trust_v so_o much_o in_o the_o strength_n of_o it_o i_o will_v not_o omit_v and_o it_o be_v this_o as_o by_o one_o man_n disobedience_n many_o be_v make_v sinner_n so_o by_o the_o obedience_n of_o one_o many_o be_v make_v just_a but_o say_v he_o by_o adam_n disobedience_n we_o be_v make_v indeed_o sinner_n and_o not_o only_o by_o imputation_n therefore_o by_o christ_n we_o be_v not_o by_o imputation_n only_o make_v righteous_a but_o also_o indeed_o what_o if_o i_o shall_v answer_v master_n bellarmine_n that_o this_o word_n as_o do_v not_o signify_v the_o likeness_n in_o the_o manner_n of_o justify_v we_o but_o in_o the_o act_n itself_o namely_o that_o many_o be_v partaker_n of_o adam_n sin_n and_o many_o be_v make_v righteous_a by_o christ_n for_o this_o word_n as_o do_v not_o always_o import_v a_o agreement_n or_o likeness_n in_o every_o point_n among_o many_o example_n that_o may_v be_v allege_v this_o one_o 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argument_n can_v do_v thus_o than_o we_o see_v that_o although_o we_o have_v in_o baptism_n the_o promise_n of_o remission_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n seal_v up_o unto_o we_o yet_o we_o can_v say_v 20.9_o prou._n 20.9_o i_o have_v make_v my_o heart_n clean_o i_o be_o clean_a from_o sin_n that_o we_o have_v not_o of_o ourselves_o free_a will_n or_o power_n to_o deliver_v ourselves_o from_o sin_n chap._n 24._o the_o protestant_n our_o nature_n then_o be_v thus_o corrupt_v and_o our_o sin_n hang_v so_o fast_o on_o 12.1_o heb._n 12.1_o as_o before_o i_o have_v teach_v in_o the_o three_o last_o chapter_n we_o must_v needs_o confess_v that_o when_o we_o will_v do_v good_a 7.21_o rom._n 7.21_o evil_a be_v present_a with_o us._n the_o light_n of_o our_o understanding_n be_v so_o darken_a that_o not_o only_o a_o natural_a man_n perceive_v not_o the_o thing_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n 2.14_o 1._o cor._n 2.14_o but_o even_o the_o best_a man_n have_v great_a need_n continual_o with_o the_o prophet_n david_n to_o pray_v 119.12.34_o psal_n 119.12.34_o o_o lord_n teach_v i_o thy_o statute_n give_v i_o understanding_n as_o for_o our_o affection_n they_o be_v so_o froward_a that_o they_o will_v not_o be_v subdue_v to_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n but_o do_v rather_o follow_v the_o flatter_a folly_n of_o entice_a sin_n christ_n yoke_n we_o account_v too_o sore_o his_o burden_n too_o heavy_a so_o that_o if_o we_o will_v come_v to_o christ_n to_o serve_v and_o obey_v he_o we_o can_v unless_a the_o father_n draw_v us._n 18.17_o joh._n 6.44_o luc._n 18.17_o and_o if_o with_o the_o prodigal_a son_n we_o will_v but_o think_v to_o return_v to_o our_o father_n again_o 3.5_o â—_o cor._n 3.5_o yet_o we_o be_v not_o sufficient_a of_o ourselves_o to_o think_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v good_a as_o of_o ourselves_o so_o that_o we_o must_v pray_v 67.28_o psalm_n 80._o psa_fw-la 139.24_o psal_n 175._o psal_n 67.28_o not_o only_o that_o god_n will_v turn_v we_o but_o also_o that_o he_o will_v lead_v we_o in_o the_o way_n for_o ever_o and_o stay_v our_o step_n in_o the_o path_n that_o our_o foot_n slide_v not_o and_o confirm_v even_o unto_o the_o end_n that_o which_o he_o have_v begin_v in_o we_o acknowledge_v the_o beginning_n of_o all_o good_a the_o continuance_n and_o end_n in_o the_o same_o to_o be_v from_o he_o only_o 119.36_o psal_n 119.36_o who_o only_o can_v incline_v our_o heart_n unto_o his_o testimony_n 51.15_o psal_n 51.15_o and_o open_v our_o lip_n that_o our_o mouth_n may_v show_v forth_o his_o praise_n 2.13_o psa_fw-la 119.133_o phil._n 2.13_o and_o dire_a our_o step_n in_o his_o word_n for_o it_o be_v god_n that_o work_v in_o we_o both_o the_o will_n and_o the_o deed_n of_o his_o good_a pleasure_n which_o will_n to_o do_v good_a when_o he_o of_o his_o great_a mercy_n have_v wrought_v in_o we_o by_o his_o spirit_n of_o regeneration_n we_o confess_v to_o be_v good_a but_o a_o free_a will_v it_o can_v be_v because_o that_o although_o to_o will_v be_v present_a â—_o in_o the_o i_o yet_o i_o find_v no_o mean_n 〈◊〉_d perform_v that_o which_o be_v good_a free_a therefore_o that_o be_v to_o fry_v able_a to_o perform_v the_o good_a that_o it_o woâ—â—_n d_o it_o be_v not_o but_o willing_a it_o may_v be_v â—_o and_o ready_a to_o obey_v sincere_o the_o papist_n but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v not_o hear_v of_o it_o that_o adam_n by_o his_o transgression_n rob_v both_o himself_o and_o we_o of_o this_o free_a will_n to_o good_a they_o will_v not_o have_v it_o quite_o lose_v or_o extinguish_v it_o need_v 5._o council_n trid._n sess_n 6._o can_n 5._o say_v they_o but_o to_o be_v stir_v up_o 5._o ibidem_fw-la ca._n 5._o &_o
that_o all_o the_o temporal_a punishment_n be_v not_o always_o pardon_v with_o the_o sin_n and_o the_o jesuite_n of_o colen_n say_v that_o this_o come_v often_o to_o pass_v and_o so_o they_o all_o teach_v that_o not_o always_o but_o often_o it_o be_v so_o but_o this_o be_v a_o very_a doubtful_a doctrine_n for_o the_o afflict_a conscience_n that_o will_v fain_o find_v comfort_n and_o release_v of_o sin_n but_o so_o must_v it_o always_o be_v nothing_o but_o doubt_v nothing_o but_o waver_v so_o long_o as_o we_o trust_v to_o our_o own_o satisfaction_n no_o quietness_n and_o security_n but_o only_o in_o christ_n but_o because_o i_o have_v speak_v elsewhere_o of_o our_o satisfaction_n or_o work_n how_o little_a available_a they_o be_v i_o mean_v not_o to_o stay_v upon_o this_o point_n but_o for_o the_o example_n of_o david_n which_o be_v allege_v both_o by_o allen_n 12.14_o 2._o sa._n 12.14_o master_n bellarmine_n and_o the_o rest_n whereby_o they_o chief_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o 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