Selected quad for the lemma: sin_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
sin_n	mortal_a	nature_n	venial_a	6,243	5	12.3225	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A73451	Bels trial examined that is a refutation of his late treatise, intituled. The triall of the nevve religion By B.C. student in diuinitie. VVherein his many & grosse vntruthes, with diuers contradictions are discouered: together with an examination of the principal partes of that vaine pamphlet: and the antiquitie & veritie of sundry Catholike articles, which he calleth rotten ragges of the newe religion, are defended against the newe ragmaster of rascal. In the preface likewise, a short viewe of one Thomas Rogers vntruthes is sett downe, taken out of his booke called. The faith doctrine and religion, professed and protected in the realme of England, &c. with a short memorandum for T.V. otherwise called Th. Vdal.	Woodward, Philip, ca. 1557-1610.	1608 (1608)	STC 25972.2; ESTC S125583	118,782	210

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pag._n 168._o he_o labour_v to_o insame_n we_o after_o this_o manner_n baptism_n quoth_v he_o serve_v for_o the_o put_v away_o of_o original_a sin_n only_o and_o that_o we_o teach_v this_o doctrine_n he_o prove_v out_o of_o s._n thomas_n of_o aquine_n who_o he_o quote_v in_o the_o margin_n but_o in_o such_o sort_n that_o it_o seem_v he_o mean_v not_o that_o we_o shall_v ever_o find_v it_o he_o reser_v we_o to_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr sac._n altar_n which_o have_v two_o and_o thirty_o long_a chapter_n not_o specify_v any_o one_o in_o particular_a ensorcinge_v his_o reader_n by_o this_o mean_n either_o to_o believe_v he_o or_o to_o great_a labour_n before_o he_o can_v reprove_v he_o but_o this_o cunning_a must_v not_o serve_v his_o turn_n i_o challenge_v he_o confident_o of_o a_o untruth_n never_o shall_v he_o be_v able_a to_o justify_v either_o out_o of_o that_o book_n or_o any_o other_o what_o he_o object_v against_o that_o myrrhour_n of_o learning_n glorious_a s._n thomas_n of_o 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