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A41439	A full survey of Sion and Babylon, and a clear vindication of the parish-churches and parochial-ministers of England ..., or, A Scripture disproof, and syllogistical conviction of M. Charles Nichols, of Kent ... delivered in three Sabbath-dayes sermons in the parish church of Deal in Kent, after a publick dispute in the same church with the said Mr. Charles Nichols, upon the 20. day of October 1653 / by Thomas Gage ...	Gage, Thomas, 1603?-1656.	1654 (1654)	Wing G111; ESTC R5895	105,515	104

power of the Keyes is fallacia non causae pro causa But if what hath been spoken will not convince Mr. Nichols that the people or Fraternity having no true power to Ordain he is no true and lawfull Minister Let him answer these Arguments from Reason Scripture and the best Divines that have written upon this p●int 1. Argument Whosoever are the first subject or immediate Receptacle of the power of the Keyes from Christ they have Divine Warrant actually to exercise and put in execution the said power as if a man be the first and immediate subject and Receptacle of Risibility or power of laughing he hath a faculty in him to exercise and put in execution his Risibility and so actually to laugh But the Multitude or Community of the Faithfull have no Divine Warrant actually to exercise and put in execution the power of the Keyes Ergo The Community of the faithfull are not the first subject or immediate Receptacle of the power of the Keyes from Iesus Christ. The Major Proposition must of necessity be yielded because first power of the Keyes contains both Authority and exercise power being given to that end that it may be exercised for the benefit of the Church It is called the power given us for edification 2 Cor. 10. vers 8. Where there is no exercise of power there can be no edification by power S●condly because both the Authority and compleat exercise ●f all that Authority were at once and together communicated from Christ to the Receptacle of the power I give unto thee the Keyes of the Kingdom of Heaven and whatsoever thou shalt binde on earth c. There goes together the giving of power and binding and loosing the exercise of that power Math. 16. vers 19. As my Father sent me so send I you Whose soever sins ye remit they are remitted John 20. vers 21 23. You see here both power and exercise joyned together in the same Commission Yea so individual and so inseparable are power and exercise that under exercise power and Authority is set forth Go Disciple you all Nations bap●izing th●m Math. 28. vers 18 19. Thirdly because it would be vain idle and impertinent to fancie and dream of such a power as should never be drawn into act by them that have it frustra est poten●ia quae non reducitur ad actum Thus the Major being cleared Let us now examine well the Minor by induction of particulars from whence we shall see it●is evident that the Community cannot exercise the power of the Keyes by any Divine Warrant First They may not preach for how shall they preach except they be sent Rom. 10. v●rs 15. But the Community cannot be sent many of them being uncapable of the Office either by occasion of their Sex 1 Cor. 14 vers 34 35. 1 Tim. 2. vers 11 12. or by reason of their age as Children and all or most of them by reason of their deficiency in gifts and in Scripture qualifications Titus 1. vers 9. and 1 Tim. 3. vers 10. For not one Member of a thousand are so compleatly furnished as to be apt to teach able to convince Gain sayers and to divide the word of truth aright Besides They may not send themselves were they capable for no man takes th●s honour to himself yea Jesus Christ himself did not glorifie himself to be made an High Priest Hebr. 5. vers 4 5. Now onely Officers are sent to preach Math. 16 19. and 28 19 20 vers 2. Secondly The Community may not administer the Seals the S●craments under the new Testament for who gave the people any such Authority Hath not Christ conjoyned preaching and dispensing of the Sacraments in the same Commission that the same Persons onely that do the one may do the other Math. 28. vers 18 19. 3. Thirdly They may not ordain Officers in the Church and Authoritatively send them abroad for ordinarily the Community have not sufficient qualifications and abilities for proving and examining of mens gifts for the Ministery They are no where commanded or allowed so to do in the whole new Testament but other persons distinct from them 1 Tim. 5. vers 22. 2 Tim. 2. vers 2. and Titus 1. vers 5. 4. The Community without Officers may not exercise any Office of Jurisdiction Authoritatively and properly they may not excommunicate or absolve for we have no precept that they should do it we have no example in all the New Testament that they ever did do it We have both precept and example that select Officers both did and ought to do it Whatsoever you binde o● earth saith Christ to his Officers shall be bound in Heaven Math. 18. vers 18. Whosoever ye remit c. Iohn 20. vers 21 23. I have decreed to deliver such an one to Satan saith Paul an Officer 1 Cor. 5. vers 4. The rebuke inflicted by many not by all 2 Cor. 2. vers 6. whom I have delivered to Satan 1 Tim. 1. vlt. vers 5. And lastly Because the Scriptures no where set the Community over themselves to be their own Church guides and Governours but appoint over them in the Lord Rulers and Officers distinct from the Community Compare these places 1 Tim. 5. vers 12. Act. 20. vers 28.29 Hebr. 13. vers 7 17 22. Salute all them that have the rule over you and all the Saints From all these premises I conclude Ergo The Community of the faithfull are not the first subject or immediate Receptacle of the power of the Keyes from Iesus Christ. And against the Communities power for Church Government I frame my second Argument thus 2. Argument whomsoever Christ makes the first subject of the power of Church Government to them he promiseth and give●h a spirit of Ministry and gifts necessary for that Government But Christ neither promiseth nor giveth a spirit of Ministery nor necessary gifts for Church Government to the Community of the faithfull Ergo Christ makes not the Community of the faithfull the first subject of the power of Church Government The Major is clearly proved For first As there are diversity of Ecclesiastical Administrations which is the foundation of diversity of Officers and diversity of miraculous operations and both for the profit of the Church So there are conveyed from the Spirit of Christ diversi●y of gifts free endowments enabling and qualifying for the actual discharge of those Administrations and operations as you may see 1 Cor. 12. vers 4 5 6. seq Secondly what instance can be given in the whole New Testament of any persons whom Christ made the Receptacle of Church Government but withall he gifted them and made his promises to them to inable them to such Government As the Apostles and their successours As my Father sent me even so send I you And when he had said this he breathed on them and sai●h unto them Receive ye the Holy Ghost Whos 's soever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them and whose soever sins

ye retain they are retained John 20. vers 21 22 23. And again Go ye theresore and Disciple ye all Nations and lo I am with ye allway even to the end of the World Math. 28. vers 19 20. Thirdly Christ being the wisdom of the Father Colos. 2. vers 3. and faithfull as was Moses in all his house yea more faithfull Moses as a servant over others he as a Son over his own house Hebr. 3. vers 2 5 6. It cannot stand with his exact wisdom and fidelity to commit the grand affairs of his Church Government to such as are not duely gifted and sufficiently qualified by himself to the due discharge thereof Thus you have the Major cleared and the Minor will as easily appear evident thus First The Scriptures teach that gifts for Ministery and Government are promised and bestowed not on all but on some particular persons onely in the visible body of Christ. To one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom to another the word of knowledge c. not to all 1 Cor 12. vers 8.9 seq If a man know not how to rule his own house how shall he take care of th● Church of God 1 Tim. 3. vers 5. The Hypothesis insinuates that all men have not gifts and skill rightly to rule their own houses much less to govern the Church Secondly Experience tells us that the multitude of the people are generally destitute of such knowledge wisdom prudence learning and other necessary qualifications for the right carrying on of Church Government Ergo Christ makes not the Community of the faithfull the first subject of the power of Church Government But this truth will yet more clearly appear by answering the Arguments and Objections of those who stand so much for Popular power and Government 1. Object First They Object thus To whom Christ gave all power to them it chiefly and primarily belongs But Christ gave all power to the body of the Church which is the Community of the faithfull Ergo To the Community of the faithfull all power belongs chiefly and primarily The Minor they prove from the Apostle Whither Paul or Apollo or Cephas or the world or life or death or things present or things to come all are yours 1 Cor. 3. vers 22. from whence they conclude that Paul Apollo Cephas and their successours in the Ministery belong to them and are under their power and Order Answ. To which I answer that Christ gave all power to the body of the Church finaliter objective finally and objectively that is for their use and benefit for their service and salvation So that if the Ministers preach administer the Sacrament exercise the power of the Keyes it is all for the good and benefit of the faithfull Community they are the Object they are the end the Ministers aim at in the work of the Ministery But we are not theirs so as to be of their making and Authorizing Church power is first seated in Christ the head and Apostle of our profession and from him committed to his Apostles and from them to the Presbytery and Ministers They commit the same to others which themselves had first received But according to that known rule Nemo dat quod non habet No man can give to another that which himself hath not first received Therefore the people which never received Orders nor power to administer the word Sacraments and Keyes how can they bestow it on others This is besides all Scripture and reason 2. Object Christs Disciples ar● Christs Church But Christs Ministerial power is given to Christs Disciples Ergo Christs Ministerial power is given to his Church Proved from Math. 16. vers 13.20 Ans. In this Argument is changed the Copulative which ought not to be in a true Syllogisme But these Popular men may as well break the rules of art as the Faith of truth Again This cunning Sophister useth deceit in the word Disciples which he expounds by this Argument to be other than Apostles or such as were Disciples sent forth to preach when the place of Math. 16. vers 13.18 is evidently against this For he cannot prove at this time any to be with Christ but the twelve as may appe●r by Luke As he was alone praying his Disciples were with him and ●e asked them saying whom say the people that I am Luke 9. vers 18. Neither doth the place of Mathew say that these Disciples are Christs Church as this Sophister maketh shew but rather the 18. verse in that place of Math●w manifesteth that Christ made himself a difference between t●e Disciples in the Person of Peter and the Church both which are there distinctly mentioned at the most they be but part of Christs Church and not the whole Church and then so meant this Argument gaines nothing For the Copulative Is given it is to be taken two ways Primarily and Immediately or Secondarily and Mediately If it be taken in the first sense and the word Disciples also for the Apostles then it is for us and against this Sophister If in the second sense and the word Disciples taken for the whole Church then I grant all for I confess the powe● of Christ to be given to the Church Mediately that is as I said before unto others for the Churches b●hoose and benefit If the Sophister understand it to be given Primarily to the whole multitude I deny it as utterly false till he can prove that by Disciples in Math. 16. vers 13 20. is meant the multitude which he calls the Church and not onely the Apostles 3. Object The wife hath power immediately from the husband and the body hath power immediately from the head But the visible Church or a Communion of fai●hfull people are Christs Spouse the wife of the Lamb and Christs mysticall body as appeareth Ephes. 5. vers 30 32. and Ephes. 1. vers 22 23. and Revel 21. vers 2. Ergo The visible Church or Communion of faithfull ones have Christs Ministerial power immediately from him Ans. There is more in the C●n●lusion than in the premises for there is the word Ministeriall which is in neither of the former propositions as in right arguing it ought to be lt is no Syllogisme and the Argument is but a similitude which may illustrate an approved truth but proves not nor gives resolution to a doubting minde much less decides our our Cause in hand 4. Object One Relate gives the Essentiall Constituting cause to another But Pastor and People are Relates Ergo The People give to the Pa●tor the Essentia● Constituting causes of ● Pastor 1. Ans. I answer first with Mr. Rutherfo●d that Ordination doth first make a Minister and Election after doth not make him a Minister but onely doth appropriate him to such a place and to such a People 2. Ans. Secondly I answer that in many cases Ordination may go before Election The Apostles were Ordained and sent before they were appropriated by any peculiar people So in the India's