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A27112 Certamen religiosum, or, A conference between the late King of England and the late Lord Marquesse of Worcester concerning religion together with a vindication of the Protestant cause from the pretences of the Marquesse his last papers which the necessity of the King's affaires denyed him oportunity to answer. Bayly, Thomas, d. 1657? 1651 (1651) Wing B1507; ESTC R23673 451,978 466

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which_o may_v be_v in_o the_o ungodly_a be_v never_o he_o say_v in_o the_o scripture_n call_v absolute_o the_o holy_a ghost_n he_o add_v also_o that_o the_o gift_n speak_v of_o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o viz._n which_o be_v give_v to_o timothy_n in_o his_o ordination_n be_v the_o spirit_n of_o love_n and_o of_o power_n and_o of_o a_o sound_a mind_n as_o it_o follow_v vers_fw-la 7._o i_o answer_v the_o place_n allege_v do_v not_o prove_v that_o justify_v grace_n be_v promise_v or_o by_o promise_n annex_v unto_o ordination_n for_o 1._o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o the_o gift_n which_o may_v be_v in_o the_o wicked_a be_v never_o in_o the_o scripture_n call_v the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o act_n 19_o 6._o it_o be_v say_v of_o some_o that_o when_o paul_n lay_v his_o hand_n upon_o they_o the_o holy_a ghost_n come_v on_o they_o
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and_o after_o that_o another_o about_o the_o same_o subject_n to_o theophilus_n which_o contain_v but_o three_o chapter_n therefore_o the_o marquesse_n here_o must_v mean_v the_o epistle_n to_o pammachius_n which_o yet_o chapt._n 13._o have_v nothing_o at_o all_o about_o purgatory_n bellarmine_n cite_v nothing_o out_o of_o hierome_n against_o john_n of_o jerusalem_n 10._o but_o something_o out_o of_o he_o against_o the_o pelagian_n viz._n this_o if_o origen_n say_v that_o no_o reasonable_a creature_n shall_v be_v destroy_v and_o give_v repentance_n to_o the_o 9_o devil_n what_o be_v that_o to_o we_o who_o say_v that_o the_o devil_n and_o his_o angel_n and_o all_o the_o wicked_a and_o ungodly_a do_v perish_v for_o ever_o and_o that_o christian_n if_o they_o be_v prevent_v in_o sin_n shall_v be_v save_v after_o punishment_n here_o indeed_o hierome_n seem_v to_o make_v some_o christian_n after_o this_o life_n to_o suffer_v punishment_n and_o yet_o to_o be_v save_v but_o if_o he_o do_v speak_v of_o punishment_n to_o be_v endure_v after_o this_o life_n which_o be_v not_o clear_a and_o certain_a though_o i_o confess_v it_o be_v probable_a by_o those_o word_n if_o they_o be_v prevent_v in_o sin_n yet_o he_o seem_v withal_o to_o have_v hold_v that_o some_o even_o after_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n shall_v be_v punish_v yet_o so_o as_o to_o be_v save_v which_o bellarmine_n as_o i_o have_v show_v note_v as_o a_o error_n in_o origen_n and_o therefore_o hierome_n in_o this_o as_o it_o seem_v follow_v origen_n do_v dissent_v as_o well_o from_o romanist_n as_o from_o protestant_n now_o that_o hierome_n be_v of_o that_o opinion_n may_v appear_v by_o that_o which_o he_o say_v a_o little_a ibid._n before_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n that_o which_o thou_o put_v in_o the_o chapter_n follow_v sai_z he_o to_o his_o adversary_n that_o the_o unjust_a and_o sinner_n shall_v not_o be_v spare_v in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n but_o shall_v be_v burn_v with_o everlasting_a fire_n who_o can_v endure_v that_o thou_o shall_v interdict_v god_n mercy_n and_o before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n judge_n of_o the_o judge_n sentence_n for_o thou_o say_v that_o it_o be_v write_v in_o psal_n 103._o let_v the_o sinner_n fail_v from_o the_o earth_n and_o the_o unjust_a that_o they_o be_v no_o more_o he_o do_v not_o say_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v burn_v with_o everlasting_a fire_n but_o that_o they_o fail_v from_o the_o earth_n and_o oease_v to_o be_v unjust_a for_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n for_o they_o to_o cease_v from_o sin_n and_o from_o iniquity_n and_o another_o thing_n for_o they_o to_o perish_v for_o ever_o and_o to_o be_v burn_v with_o everlasting_a fire_n hierome_n seem_v not_o to_o be_v so_o clear_a in_o the_o other_o word_n for_o this_o that_o some_o be_v punish_v after_o this_o life_n and_o yet_o save_v as_o he_o be_v in_o these_o word_n for_o this_o that_o some_o shall_v be_v punish_v after_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n so_o as_o thereby_o to_o cease_v 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judgement_n see_v then_o if_o these_o place_n of_o scripture_n be_v not_o more_o clear_a against_o purgatory_n then_o that_o which_o he_o after_o allege_v be_v for_o it_o he_o allege_v that_o mat._n 12._o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o he_o that_o sin_v against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v not_o forgive_v neither_o in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v from_o whence_o he_o gather_v that_o some_o sin_n be_v forgive_v in_o ibid._n this_o world_n and_o some_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v but_o 1._o how_o will_v this_o stand_v with_o that_o which_o he_o say_v before_o for_o if_o some_o sin_n not_o forgive_v in_o this_o world_n may_v be_v forgive_v in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v how_o shall_v every_o one_o be_v find_v at_o the_o last_o judgement_n such_o as_o he_o be_v when_o he_o die_v 2._o the_o collection_n from_o that_o place_n of_o matthew_n be_v not_o good_a for_o those_o word_n neither_o in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v import_v 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