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A03334 The first motiue of T.H. Maister of Arts, and lately minister, to suspect the integrity of his religion which was detection of falsehood in D. Humfrey, D. Field, & other learned protestants, touching the question of purgatory, and prayer for the dead. VVith his particular considerations perswading him to embrace the Catholick doctrine in theis, and other points. An appendix intituled, try before you trust. Wherein some notable vntruths of D. Field, and D. Morton are discouered. Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659. 1609 (1609) STC 13454; ESTC S104083 165,029 276

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32._o see_v also_o the_o curâ_fw-la pro_fw-la mert._n cap._n 1._o non_fw-fr est_fw-fr dubium_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o the_o dead_a receive_v help_v by_o the_o prayer_n of_o holy_a church_n by_o the_o healthful_a sacrifice_n and_o by_o alm_n the_o second_o 24._o second_o de_fw-fr civit_n dei_fw-la lib._n 21._o c._n 24._o non_fw-la veraciter_fw-la diceretur_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o can_v not_o be_v say_v true_o that_o the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v unless_o some_o sin_n be_v remit_v in_o the_o future_a life_n and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o speak_v most_o constant_o of_o temporal_a pain_n which_o the_o soul_n of_o some_o man_n sustain_v after_o their_o dissolution_n from_o the_o body_n 16._o wherefore_o i_o reflect_v now_o upon_o d._n fields_n assertion_n and_o be_v amaze_v to_o behold_v such_o a_o repugnancy_n betwixt_o these_o thing_n viz._n augustine_n run_v doubt_o into_o purgatory_n and_o yet_o he_o affirm_v there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o some_o soul_n be_v relieve_v by_o the_o sacrifice_n etc._n etc._n again_o augustine_n do_v broach_v this_o opinion_n doubtful_o and_o yet_o he_o say_v in_o great_a confidence_n it_o can_v be_v say_v true_o that_o one_o sin_n shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o next_o unless_o some_o sin_n not_o remit_v here_o shall_v be_v forgive_v there_o be_v s._n augustine_n so_o simple_a as_o not_o to_o regard_v his_o own_o position_n or_o be_v not_o other_o man_n dishonest_a rather_o in_o contort_v his_o word_n against_o his_o purpose_n and_o intention_n 17._o but_o forasmuch_o as_o i_o know_v that_o our_o best_a and_o most_o respect_a author_n do_v insist_v everlasting_o in_o this_o point_n i_o adhibit_v all_o possible_a diligence_n to_o find_v out_o the_o doubtful_a sentence_n in_o s._n augustine_n which_o may_v seem_v to_o give_v way_n unto_o this_o pretence_a irresolution_n and_o special_o such_o as_o belong_v unto_o this_o business_n direct_o without_o deduction_n inference_n gloss_n interpretation_n ●_o not_o ●_o or_o the_o like_a devise_n whereby_o man_n be_v wont_a to_o heap_v up_o many_o testimony_n out_o of_o the_o father_n and_o to_o make_v their_o conclusion_n against_o some_o doctrine_n which_o be_v not_o particular_o handle_v by_o the_o father_n in_o those_o place_n whence_o they_o assume_v such_o proof_n 18._o the_o principal_a therefore_o and_o most_o pertinent_a sentence_n which_o i_o can_v find_v be_v two_o which_o here_o ensue_v first_o some_o man_n be_v of_o opinion_n say_v 67._o say_v enchirid._n ad_fw-la laur._n cap._n 67._o s._n augustine_n that_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v and_o continue_v christian_n not_o divide_v by_o any_o schism_n or_o any_o heresy_n from_o the_o catholic_n communion_n how_o wicked_o so_o ever_o they_o live_v and_o never_o wash_v away_o their_o sin_n by_o repentance_n nor_o 29._o nor_o daniel_n 4.24_o be_v this_o doctrine_n repugnant_a unto_o our_o redemption_n by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n alone_o true_o as_o much_o as_o the_o former_a doctrine_n of_o propitiation_n etc._n etc._n see_v before_o pag._n 29._o redeem_v they_o with_o alm_n but_o persist_v therein_o most_o pertinacious_o unto_o their_o last_o day_n yet_o they_o shall_v be_v save_v by_o fire_n howbeit_o their_o punishment_n shall_v be_v extend_v according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o their_o offence_n but_o they_o who_o say_v thus_o and_o yet_o be_v catholiqve_n viz._n not_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n by_o any_o heresy_n as_o arrian_n marcionite_n etc._n etc._n seem_v in_o my_o opinion_n to_o be_v deceive_v by_o a_o certain_a humane_a benevolence_n 19_o here_o s._n augustine_n in_o his_o mild_a and_o gentle_a disposition_n though_o he_o reject_v this_o conceit_n in_o some_o private_a man_n yet_o he_o refer_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o error_n unto_o the_o simplicity_n of_o their_o love_n neither_o do_v he_o propound_v any_o scruple_n against_o purgatory_n but_o only_o he_o deni_v it_o unto_o such_o person_n as_o by_o a_o evil_a life_n and_o impenitent_a death_n make_v themselves_o uncapable_a of_o this_o 12._o this_o misericor_n &_o judi●_n cantabo_fw-la tibi_fw-la domine_fw-la etc._n etc._n psal_n 101._o which_o s._n augustine_n and_o his_o company_n do_v sing_v after_o his_o mother_n decease_n see_v confess_v l._n 9_o c._n 12._o merciful_a justice_n as_o for_o example_n the_o law_n in_o england_n do_v provide_v a_o mitigation_n of_o penalty_n for_o some_o offender_n as_o burn_v in_o the_o hand_n pillory_n or_o some_o like_a chastisement_n and_o deprive_v they_o not_o of_o their_o life_n because_o she_o will_v in_o her_o justice_n punish_v sin_n and_o yet_o in_o mercy_n she_o will_v preserve_v the_o person_n now_o if_o any_o man_n will_v exceed_v the_o purpose_n of_o the_o law_n and_o in_o his_o affection_n will_v grant_v this_o indulgence_n unto_o murderer_n also_o his_o error_n must_v be_v correct_v by_o such_o as_o be_v more_o equal_a in_o the_o course_n of_o justice_n than_o he_o be_v and_o yet_o they_o who_o deny_v this_o benefit_n unto_o a_o murderer_n do_v not_o thereby_o subvert_v the_o law_n which_o show_v mercy_n unto_o some_o transgressor_n but_o they_o reduce_v the_o practice_n of_o it_o unto_o the_o intention_n of_o they_o by_o who_o it_o be_v respective_o decree_v 20._o the_o second_o sentence_n in_o 69._o in_o enchirid._n cap._n 69._o s._n augustine_n be_v this_o it_o be_v not_o incredible_a that_o some_o such_o thing_n may_v be_v do_v after_o this_o life_n and_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v question_v whether_o it_o be_v so_o or_o not_o for_o it_o may_v be_v find_v out_o or_o it_o may_v lie_v hide_v whether_o many_o faithful_a man_n shall_v be_v save_v by_o a_o certain_a purgatory_n fire_n either_o more_o slow_o or_o more_o speedy_o as_o they_o have_v more_o or_o less_o affect_v these_o temporal_a good_n howbeit_o these_o man_n also_o be_v not_o such_o of_o who_o the_o scripture_n say_v 6.10_o say_v 1._o cor._n 6.10_o they_o shall_v not_o possess_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n that_o be_v to_o say_v unless_o their_o sin_n be_v remit_v unto_o they_o upon_o their_o convenient_a repentance_n 21._o here_o s._n augustine_n do_v not_o leave_v it_o as_o a_o thing_n uncertayn_v and_o disputable_a whether_o there_o be_v any_o temporal_a pain_n or_o penal_a expurgation_n of_o some_o soul_n after_o this_o life_n for_o he_o do_v affirm_v it_o confident_o in_o many_o place_n and_o doubt_v of_o it_o in_o none_o but_o he_o leave_v it_o as_o a_o thing_n questionable_a whether_o any_o earthly_a affection_n remain_v actual_o in_o the_o separate_a soul_n and_o cleave_v thereunto_o be_v purdge_v out_o after_o this_o life_n faith_n he_o may_v doubt_v also_o the_o qualitate_fw-la poenae_fw-la viz._n whether_o fire_n be_v the_o instrument_n which_o god_n use_v in_o the_o purgation_n of_o soul_n or_o not_o for_o though_o this_o be_v most_o credible_a yet_o no_o man_n be_v oblige_v to_o receive_v this_o opinion_n by_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o faith_n by_o affliction_n pain_n and_o sorrow_n as_o they_o be_v purdge_v out_o in_o this_o life_n very_o often_o by_o tribulation_n and_o grief_n this_o be_v clear_o import_v by_o his_o own_o word_n tale_n aliquid_fw-la fieri_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o incredible_a that_o some_o such_o thing_n may_v be_v do_v after_o this_o life_n and_o yet_o we_o may_v doubt_v whether_o it_o be_v so_o or_o not_o 22._o wherefore_o as_o in_o the_o 18._o the_o num_fw-la 18._o former_a sentence_n s._n augustine_n dispute_v of_o the_o person_n unto_o who_o purgatory_n may_v appertayn_v so_o here_o he_o dispute_v of_o the_o qvality_n which_o be_v to_o be_v cleanse_v out_o of_o their_o soul_n but_o he_o dispute_v or_o doubt_v in_o neither_o of_o purgatory_n itself_o or_o a_o penal_a estate_n for_o to_o litigate_v concern_v name_n &_o word_n it_o be_v a_o childish_a folly_n wherein_o the_o soul_n of_o some_o man_n shall_v receive_v a_o castigation_n for_o their_o sin_n that_o this_o be_v the_o true_a and_o genuine_a sense_n of_o s._n augustine_n in_o the_o aforesaid_a place_n all_o intelligent_a reader_n will_v easy_o perceive_v by_o the_o connexion_n and_o dependency_n of_o his_o discourse_n 23._o but_o i_o proceed_v yet_o a_o little_a far_o and_o consider_v yet_o more_o exact_o with_o myself_o that_o the_o very_a prescription_n ensue_v 110._o ensue_v cap._n 110._o there_o in_o s._n augustine_n profound_a discourse_n do_v invincible_o and_o substantial_o demonstrate_v unto_o i_o always_o presuppose_v he_o to_o be_v no_o simple_a fellow_n nor_o gross_a companion_n that_o he_o have_v no_o purpose_n nor_o intention_n in_o the_o aforesaid_a place_n to_o admit_v any_o doubt_n concern_v purgatory_n real_o and_o pure_o conceive_v in_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o only_o concern_v some_o accidental_a respect_n for_o say_v he_o
do_v never_o loose_a grace_n also_o and_o consequent_o he_o do_v never_o sin_n mortal_o because_o a_o mortal_a sin_n exclude_v inherent_a exclude_v grace_n inherent_a grace_n from_o the_o soul_n and_o this_o i_o will_v prove_v unto_o you_o by_o d._n field_n who_o 176._o who_o pag._n 176._o accuse_v the_o papist_n to_o be_v liar_n of_o the_o worst_a memory_n whence_o it_o be_v say_v he_o that_o every_o second_o page_n in_o their_o writing_n if_o not_o every_o second_o line_n 147._o pag._n 147._o be_v a_o refutation_n of_o the_o first_o do_v perplex_v himself_o about_o this_o matter_n very_o strange_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o a_o few_o line_n and_o involu_v himself_o in_o manifest_a contradiction_n 4._o for_o first_o he_o say_v that_o the_o elect_n notwithstanding_o any_o degree_n of_o sin_n they_o run_v into_o retayn_v that_o grace_n which_o can_v and_o will_v procure_v pardon_n for_o all_o their_o offence_n in_o which_o respect_n also_o he_o say_v that_o the_o reprobate_n have_v no_o grace_n in_o they_o which_o may_v cry_v unto_o god_n for_o remission_n and_o hence_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o all_o sin_n be_v venial_a unto_o the_o one_o and_o all_o be_v mortal_a unto_o the_o other_o but_o see_v how_o within_o 3._o or_o 4._o line_n he_o contradict_v this_o assertion_n saying_n all_o sin_n that_o against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n except_v be_v venial_a ex_fw-la eventu_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v such_o as_o may_v be_v and_o oftentimes_o be_v forgive_v through_o the_o merciful_a goodness_n of_o god_n though_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o the_o party_n offend_v while_o they_o be_v in_o such_o state_n of_o sin_n that_o either_o can_v or_o do_v cry_v for_o pardon_n who_o be_v they_o unto_o who_o god_n vouch_n safe_v this_o goodness_n sure_o the_o elect_a for_o d._n field_n say_v that_o in_o other_o man_n who_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o life_n of_o god_n as_o he_o speak_v all_o sin_n be_v mortal_a and_o not_o remit_v for_o want_v of_o grace_n which_o may_v cry_v unto_o god_n for_o pardon_n well_o then_o in_o the_o elect_a oftentimes_o there_o be_v grace_n be_v therefore_o no_o grace_n nothing_o that_o can_v or_o do_v cry_v unto_o god_n for_o pardon_n and_o yet_o the_o elect_a also_o do_v still_o retayn_v that_o grace_n which_o can_v and_o will_v procure_v pardon_n for_o all_o their_o offence_n be_v not_o this_o a_o real_a contradiction_n again_o he_o 37._o he_o lin_v 37._o say_v we_o confess_v that_o all_o sin_n not_o do_v with_o full_a consent_n may_v stand_v with_o grace_n wherefore_o it_o follow_v by_o the_o contrary_a that_o all_o sin_n do_v with_o full_a consent_n exclude_v grace_n now_o since_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o many_o elect_v after_o grace_v receive_v do_v sin_n with_o full_a consent_n for_o such_o be_v david_n case_n it_o be_v clear_a likewise_o 11._o 2._o sam._n 11._o that_o they_o fall_v from_o grace_n which_o be_v restore_v unto_o they_o afterward_o as_o 7._o as_o de_fw-mi corrept_v &_o great_a c._n 7._o s._n augustine_n do_v excellent_o discourse_n and_o catholic_n concur_v with_o his_o opinion_n 4._o i_o conclude_v this_o passage_n with_o the_o public_a testimony_n of_o your_o church_n 16._o church_n artic._n relig_n 16._o after_o we_o have_v receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n we_o may_v depart_v from_o grace._n from_o if_o they_o lose_v their_o faith_n also_o then_o caluin_n say_v false_o that_o true_a faith_n can_v never_o be_v lose_v if_o they_o do_v not_o loose_a i●_n they_o caluin_n say_v false_o that_o true_a faith_n can_v not_o be_v separate_v from_o grace._n grace_n give_v and_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n we_o may_v rise_v again_o whereby_o it_o be_v plain_n against_o d._n field_n that_o the_o elect_v do_v not_o retayn_v grace_n in_o they_o notwithstanding_o any_o degree_n of_o sin_n but_o they_o fall_v not_o from_o that_o grace_n of_o god_n by_o which_o they_o be_v infallible_o destinate_a unto_o salvation_n and_o therefore_o unto_o a_o newness_n of_o life_n also_o which_o be_v necessary_a unto_o this_o end_n 5._o thus_o much_o for_o s._n augustine_n the_o sentence_n of_o 10._o of_o rat._n 10._o campian_n be_v cite_v in_o these_o word_n nisi_fw-la divi_z è_fw-la coelo_fw-la deturbentur_fw-la cadere_fw-la ego_fw-la nunquam_fw-la potero_fw-la and_o here_o your_o doctor_n pretend_v that_o campian_n even_o as_o caluin_n himself_o do_v believe_v constant_o that_o he_o can_v never_o fall_v from_o faith_n but_o be_v certain_a of_o his_o salvation_n which_o if_o it_o be_v so_o then_o judge_v of_o the_o soundness_n of_o your_o devinity_n according_a to_o the_o principle_n whereof_o campian_n a_o resolute_a papist_n and_o opposite_a unto_o your_o religion_n may_v be_v infallible_o secure_a of_o his_o salvation_n and_o the_o like_o all_o sectary_n may_v as_o many_o do_v apply_v unto_o themselves_o with_o a_o suppose_a certainty_n of_o perseverance_n but_o as_o f._n campian_n do_v medisi·_fw-la do_v rat._n 8._o age_n somuiet_a hocise_v unde_fw-la etc._n etc._n post_fw-la medisi·_fw-la elsewhere_o particular_o reproove_v this_o conceit_n and_o tax_v your_o caluin_n precise_o for_o the_o same_o so_o in_o reason_n in_o in_o the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o ten_o reason_n this_o place_n he_o be_v far_o from_o that_o imagination_n howsoever_o it_o please_v d._n morton_n to_o propose_v his_o word_n by_o the_o half_a &_o to_o pervert_v his_o meaning_n in_o the_o whole_a for_o that_o bless_a martyr_n have_v yield_v a_o reason_n of_o his_o confidence_n which_o he_o derive_v from_o all_o kind_n of_o witness_n in_o heaven_n earth_n and_o hell_n itself_o non_fw-la diffiteor_fw-la say_v he_o animatus_fw-la sum_fw-la &_o incensus_fw-la ad_fw-la conflictum_fw-la in_o qvo_n nisi_fw-la divi_z de_fw-la coelo_fw-la deturbentur_fw-la &_o superbus_fw-la lucifer_n coelum_fw-la recuperet_fw-la cadere_fw-la nunquam_fw-la potero_fw-la 6._o now_o i_o remit_v i_o unto_o your_o ingenuity_n and_o conscience_n whether_o d._n morton_n do_v not_o with_o voluntary_a and_o determinate_a malice_n as_o i_o say_v before_o abridge_v the_o sentence_n and_o violate_v the_o intention_n of_o campian_n to_o deceive_v the_o reader_n with_o fallit_fw-la sciens_fw-la fallit_fw-la and_o against_o his_o knowledge_n for_o what_o do_v f._n campian_n affirm_v but_o only_o this_o since_o i_o have_v these_o testimony_n of_o my_o religion_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o rely_v thereupon_o i_o shall_v ever_o causâ_fw-la cadere_fw-la be_v vanquish_v in_o that_o combat_n which_o i_o do_v serious_o desire_v 7._o this_o may_v be_v a_o sufficient_a instruction_n for_o you_o and_o by_o it_o alone_o you_o may_v perceive_v whether_o his_o heart_n be_v single_a and_o sincere_a in_o his_o impugnation_n of_o the_o catholic_n faith_n which_o he_o labour_v to_o extinguish_v by_o these_o miserable_a invention_n but_o it_o will_v flourish_v much_o more_o even_o for_o his_o sake_n god_n of_o his_o infinite_a mercy_n will_v either_o mollify_v his_o affection_n or_o cohibit_v his_o purpose_n and_o now_o kind_a master_n s._n i_o may_v ease_v myself_o and_o you_o from_o any_o more_o pain_n in_o this_o kind_n if_o one_o more_o vast_a untruth_n than_o all_o the_o rest_n do_v not_o compel_v i_o to_o proceed_v yet_o a_o little_a far_o the_o master_n be_v of_o great_a importance_n and_o for_o many_o respect_n not_o to_o be_v pass_v over_o in_o silence_n chap._n 2._o d._n mortons_n untruth_n concern_v the_o article_n of_o christ_n his_o descent_n into_o hell_n §._o 1._o the_o necessity_n and_o weight_n of_o this_o article_n 1._o among_o sundry_a difficulty_n which_o do_v sometime_o afflict_v my_o conscience_n when_o i_o be_v a_o brother_n of_o your_o society_n this_o be_v not_o the_o least_o viz._n what_o be_v that_o which_o do_v proper_o and_o entire_o make_v a_o man_n to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o your_o church_n so_o that_o precise_o for_o defect_n thereof_o he_o cease_v absolute_o from_o be_v of_o that_o communion_n in_o which_o argument_n though_o etc._n though_o book_n 1._o chap._n 7._o 8._o etc._n etc._n d._n field_n have_v bestow_v his_o diligence_n and_o pain_n yet_o he_o be_v so_o full_a of_o perplexity_n and_o uncertainty_n that_o i_o can_v never_o settle_v my_o conscience_n firm_o and_o unmooveable_o in_o his_o dubious_a and_o enigmatical_a resolution_n 11._o resolution_n in_o his_o reply_n book_n 2._o chap._n 6._o num_fw-la 11._o d._n kellison_n have_v late_o propose_v this_o question_n unto_o d._n sutcliffe_n and_o though_o he_o have_v handle_v it_o brief_o yet_o he_o have_v perform_v his_o designment_n with_o such_o facility_n and_o such_o gravity_n so_o apposite_o and_o so_o punctual_o that_o any_o man_n will_v be_v move_v thereby_o to_o pity_n and_o commiserate_v your_o chaos_n and_o babylonian_a confusion_n 2._o but_o this_o position_n with_o i_o be_v a_o impregnable_a bulwark_n of_o my_o religion_n viz._n whosoever_o do_v pertinacious_o reject_v any_o point_n of_o faith_n accept_v by_o public_a consent_n of_o the_o cath_z church_n he_o be_v
pitiful_a conceit_n wherefore_o i_o direct_v my_o thought_n uto_o these_o 4._o consideration_n which_o here_o ensue_v first_o that_o it_o be_v a_o vanity_n in_o we_o protestant_n sometime_o to_o other_o to_o so_o do_v d._n field_n here_o and_o zanch._n de_fw-fr natura_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 4._o and_o other_o accept_v this_o liturgy_n as_o compose_v by_o s._n chrysostome_n and_o sometime_o to_o 235._o to_o so_o do_v m._n jewel_n &_o m._n powell_n de_fw-fr antichr_n p._n 235._o reject_v it_o for_o our_o own_o advantadge_n because_o we_o can_v not_o just_o insist_v upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o any_o author_n by_o way_n of_o proof_n which_o we_o ourselves_o deny_v to_o be_v deliver_v by_o he_o for_o though_o it_o have_v force_n against_o he_o that_o admit_v it_o yet_o it_o be_v of_o no_o efficacy_n for_o he_o that_o refuse_v it_o second_o that_o s._n cor._n s._n iwetur_fw-la mortuus_fw-la non_fw-la lachrymis_fw-la sed_fw-la pr●cibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n hom._n 41._o in_o epist_n 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n chrysostome_n do_v pray_v and_o exhort_v other_o to_o pray_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o therefore_o in_o all_o probability_n his_o liturgy_n and_o his_o doctrine_n do_v conspire_v substantial_o in_o this_o issue_n three_o i_o find_v that_o when_o the_o church_n offer_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n for_o the_o apostle_n martyr_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v by_o way_n of_o missae_fw-la of_o see_v gabriel_n biel_n lect_n 85._o in_o can._n missae_fw-la thanskgiving_n not_o of_o petition_n and_o this_o be_v confirm_v unto_o i_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n viz._n the_o faithful_a do_v know_v by_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o church_n that_o we_o pray_v not_o for_o martyr_n as_o we_o pray_v for_o other_o man_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o martyr_n be_v recognize_v by_o we_o as_o citizen_n of_o the_o heavenly_a kingdom_n but_o we_o pray_v for_o other_o as_o be_v yet_o in_o temporal_a pain_n or_o at_o least_o conceive_v to_o be_v so_o by_o we_o and_o thus_o to_o wit_n respective_o unto_o this_o end_n we_o make_v our_o supplication_n unto_o god_n in_o their_o behalf_n farther_n as_o it_o be_v not_o absurd_o deliver_v say_v place_n say_v parte_fw-la 1._o lect_v 2._o super_fw-la marcum_fw-la see_v biel._n in_o the_o aforesaid_a place_n gerson_n by_o the_o learned_a divine_n that_o there_o be_v a_o addition_n or_o increase_v of_o accidental_a felicity_n in_o the_o saint_n so_o it_o be_v not_o inconvenient_a if_o in_o this_o respect_n also_o we_o recommend_v they_o unto_o god_n in_o our_o devotion_n 3._o fourthly_a though_o d._n field_n in_o his_o great_a wisdom_n than_o integrity_n do_v conceal_v it_o and_o so_o the_o tempter_n make_v his_o assault_n upon_o our_o saviour_n cast_v thyself_o down_o headlong_o for_o it_o be_v write_v 4._o matth._n 4._o he_o shall_v geve_v his_o angel_n charge_n over_o thou_o that_o thou_o dash_v not_o thy_o foot_n against_o a_o stone_n but_o he_o omit_v a_o principal_a point_n viz._n that_o they_o may_v keep_v thou_o in_o all_o thy_o way_n yet_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o the_o same_o liturgy_n do_v plain_o refute_v his_o pretence_a exposition_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a for_o thus_o he_o say_v by_o the_o supplication_n of_o these_o patriarch_n apostle_n etc._n etc._n have_v respect_n unto_o we_o o_o lord_n like_n if_o d._n field_n will_v stand_v unto_o this_o liturgy_n to_o gather_v the_o sense_n of_o antiquity_n by_o it_o he_o must_v admit_v also_o such_o a_o exaltation_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n as_o will_v hardly_o stand_v with_o his_o like_n and_o he_o add_v immediate_o remember_v all_o the_o faithful_a depart_v who_o sleep_n in_o the_o hope_n of_o resurrection_n and_o make_v they_o to_o be_v at_o rest_n where_o the_o light_n of_o thy_o countenance_n be_v see_v 4._o thus_o s._n augustine_n and_o s._n chrysostome_n if_o their_o say_n be_v full_o relate_v and_o true_o weigh_v do_v hold_v a_o just_a correspondency_n herein_o and_o each_o of_o they_o in_o the_o essential_a point_n do_v follow_v the_o instruction_n of_o the_o same_o church_n wherefore_o though_o 8._o though_o contra_fw-la henric._n 8._o luther_n do_v base_o esteem_v of_o a_o thousand_o augustine_n and_o cyprian_n if_o they_o be_v repugnant_a unto_o his_o judgement_n in_o the_o scripture_n yet_o i_o see_v necessary_a reason_n why_o i_o shall_v prefer_v one_o augustine_n before_o ten_o thousand_o luther_n field_n and_o all_o such_o as_o be_v exorbitant_o carry_v against_o the_o stream_n and_o course_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n §._o 6._o reason_n which_o move_v i_o rather_o to_o believe_v and_o to_o follow_v s._n augustine_n herein_o and_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o his_o time_n then_o d._n field_n and_o his_o reform_a church_n a_o conclusion_n of_o the_o first_o part_n with_o a_o admonition_n to_o all_o caluinian_a reader_n 1._o when_o i_o have_v bring_v my_o discourse_n unto_o this_o effect_n as_o you_o have_v already_o see_v i_o consider_v serious_o in_o my_o private_a meditation_n that_o whereas_o we_o protestant_n make_v a_o glorious_a show_n of_o antiquity_n we_o d._n field_n pag._n 47._o assume_v that_o he_o will_v prove_v the_o papist_n note_n of_o antiquity_n etc._n etc._n to_o be_v real_o the_o same_o with_o we_o universality_n succession_n etc._n etc._n to_o justify_v our_o religion_n thereby_o it_o will_v prove_v a_o most_o ridiculous_a suggestion_n if_o in_o this_o particular_a itself_o we_o hold_v not_o conformity_n with_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n here_o also_o by_o the_o way_n i_o remember_v that_o s._n 53._o s._n heres_fw-la 53._o augustine_n register_n the_o heresy_n of_o aërius_n in_o the_o number_n whereof_o be_v his_o derision_n of_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a conclude_v in_o the_o peroration_n of_o his_o treatise_n that_o whosoever_o maintain_v any_o of_o the_o precedent_a opinion_n he_o be_v not_o a_o catholic_n christian_n 2._o how_o near_o this_o censure_n appertain_v unto_o we_o protestant_n the_o 2._o the_o see_v book_n 2._o part._n 1_o chap._n 2._o sequel_n will_v declare_v mean_a while_n it_o may_v please_v you_o to_o observe_v with_o i_o how_o plausible_o and_o artificial_o d._n field_n demean_v himself_o to_o escape_v the_o pressure_n of_o that_o difficulty_n which_o be_v to_o heavy_a for_o he_o to_o bear_v it_o be_v most_o certain_a say_v 98._o say_v pag._n 98._o he_o that_o many_o particular_a man_n extend_v the_o meaning_n of_o these_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a 1._o dead_a viz._n then_o he_o have_v deliver_v before_o see_v §._o 5._o num_fw-la 1._o far_o and_o out_o of_o their_o private_a error_n and_o fancy_n use_v such_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o i_o think_v dare_v not_o justify_v and_o so_o it_o be_v true_a that_o many_o of_o the_o father_n be_v lead_v into_o error_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o not_o all_o as_o if_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v fall_v from_z the_o truth_n as_o bellarmine_n 3._o bellarmine_n see_n book_n 2._o part._n 1._o chap._n 3._o falfe_o impute_v unto_o caluin_n who_o say_v no_o such_o thing_n 3._o now_o forasmuch_o as_o m._n doctor_n do_v clear_o insinuate_v that_o such_o father_n as_o extend_v this_o religious_a duty_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a beyond_o the_o narrow_a compass_n which_o be_v assign_v by_o 5._o by_o insi_fw-fr l._n 3._o c._n 5._o caluin_n and_o 139._o and_o pag._n 98._o &_o 139._o himself_o do_v follow_v a_o private_a error_n and_o fancy_n herein_o and_o that_o they_o do_v fall_v away_o from_o the_o truth_n i_o be_v desirous_a to_o know_v without_o lie_n obscurity_n and_o circuition_n the_o best_a sanctuary_n of_o our_o evil_a cause_n either_o from_o d._n field_n or_o from_o any_o discreet_a protestant_n in_o christendom_n howbeit_o i_o may_v contract_v my_o speech_n and_o say_v in_o europe_n for_o our_o new_a faith_n have_v scarce_o peep_v out_o of_o her_o confine_n whether_o s._n cyrill_n of_o jerusalem_n concur_v absolute_o with_o the_o papist_n in_o this_o point_n 4._o see_v before_o §._o 4._o and_o whether_o s._n augustine_n conspire_v with_o he_o and_o whether_o s._n 18._o s._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr divin_v offic_n c._n 18._o isidore_n consent_v with_o they_o both_o unless_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v believe_v that_o sin_n be_v remit_v unto_o the_o faithful_a after_o this_o life_n she_o will_v not_o offer_v the_o sacrifice_n unto_o god_n for_o their_o soul_n &_o final_o whether_o all_o other_o join_v with_o they_o herein_o fall_v away_o from_o the_o truth_n or_o not_o and_o if_o they_o do_v i_o be_v desirous_a to_o see_v what_o one_o man_n there_o be_v beside_o aërian_a heretic_n in_o who_o the_o truth_n be_v visible_o preserve_v 4._o here_o i_o give_v myself_o unto_o a_o long_a and_o earnest_a meditation_n remember_v a_o renown_a sentence_n of_o s._n 118._o epist_n 118._o augustine_n
willingness_n to_o believe_v meet_v with_o other_o man_n facility_n to_o deceive_v do_v captivate_v my_o blind_a thought_n into_o the_o society_n of_o their_o error_n for_o as_o judah_n commit_v folly_n with_o thamar_n 38._o genes_n 38._o because_o her_o habit_n be_v chandged_a and_o her_o face_n cover_v so_o i_o be_v entangle_v with_o their_o conceit_n because_o they_o mask_v their_o intolerable_a falsehood_n &_o disguise_v it_o under_o the_o shape_n of_o great_a sincerity_n and_o truth_n thus_o d._n morton_z protest_v lector_fw-la in_o cathol_a apol._n part._n 1._o epist._n ad_fw-la lector_fw-la that_o he_o may_v call_v god_n to_o be_v a_o witness_n and_o revendger_n against_o his_o soul_n if_o he_o deceive_v any_o man_n fallo_fw-la man_n si_fw-mi sciens_fw-la fallo_fw-la with_o his_o knowledge_n nay_o god_n forbid_v that_o for_o defence_n of_o truth_n which_o be_v life_n he_o shall_v procure_v the_o assistance_n of_o a_o lie_n which_o slay_v the_o soul_n but_o 12._o but_o ipse_fw-la legendo_fw-la reperiet_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v s._n aug_n conf._n l._n 3._o c._n 12._o discover_v their_o vanity_n at_o the_o appoint_a time_n and_o see_v how_o pitiful_o i_o have_v be_v 12._o be_v usque_fw-la ad_fw-la annunaetatis_fw-la 28._o etc._n etc._n see_v s._n august_n confess_v l._n 4._o c._n 1._o jerem._n 17.11_o see_v s._n hierom._n in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la also_o s._n august_n contra_fw-la faustum_n l._n 13._o c._n 12._o seduce_v by_o they_o who_o word_n seem_v unto_o i_o divine_a oracle_n i_o can_v not_o be_v any_o long_o lead_v by_o they_o who_o do_v so_o gross_o abuse_v their_o own_o knowledge_n to_o deceive_v poor_a ignorant_a credulous_a soul_n and_o thus_o as_o nature_n teach_v the_o young_a partridge_n to_o forsake_v the_o false_a damn_n &_o to_o receive_v more_o sweet_a protection_n under_o her_o wing_n by_o who_o she_o be_v bring_v forth_o so_o grace_n teach_v i_o to_o disclaim_v heretical_a congregation_n and_o to_o submit_v myself_o unto_o the_o direction_n of_o that_o mother-church_n which_o bring_v i_o forth_o unto_o god_n by_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o do_v challenge_v right_a in_o i_o as_o in_o her_o own_o child_n the_o first_o part_n concern_v the_o untruth_n and_o corrupt_v deal_v of_o d._n field_n in_o the_o question_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a chap._n i._n how_o the_o 4._o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n viz._n s._n gregory_n s._n augustine_n s._n hierome_n and_o s._n ambrose_n be_v traduce_v by_o d._n field_n in_o this_o particular_a §._o 1._o s_o gregory_z abuse_v by_o d._n field_n a_o note_n concern_v s._n bernard_n the_o substance_n of_o d._n fields_n discourse_n concern_v the_o church_n the_o great_a and_o most_o ponderous_a subject_n in_o all_o religious_a dispute_n as_o he_o affirm_v archb._n affirm_v in_o his_o epist_n to_o the_o archb._n say_v that_o man_n desirous_a of_o satisfaction_n in_o thing_n of_o such_o consequence_n as_o the_o matter_n now_o controverse_v be_v must_v diligent_o search_v out_o the_o true_a church_n that_o so_o they_o may_v embrace_v her_o communion_n follow_v her_o direction_n and_o nota._n and_o nota._n rest_n in_o her_o judgement_n consist_v principal_o in_o this_o issue_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o opinion_n wherein_o the_o papist_n dissent_v from_o the_o protestant_n at_o this_o day_n be_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n 7._o see_v his_o three_o book_n chap._n 6._o 7._o but_o of_o a_o faction_n only_o predominate_v in_o the_o same_o 2._o now_o forasmuch_o as_o the_o copious_a declaration_n of_o this_o point_n will_v exceed_v the_o convenient_a quantity_n 7._o chap._n 7._o or_o compass_v of_o that_o chapter_n wherein_o the_o several_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o papist_n and_o protestant_n be_v brief_o and_o 4._o and_o see_v one_o example_n afterward_o chap._n 4._o false_o also_o in_o some_o part_n set_v down_o it_o please_v he_o to_o frame_v a_o certain_a appendix_n which_o he_o annex_v unto_o his_o three_o book_n and_o therein_o he_o undertake_v to_o justify_v the_o aforesaid_a position_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o sundry_a father_n &_o schoole-authour_n who_o he_o there_o call_v worthy_a and_o learned_a man_n for_o so_o he_o be_v accustom_v to_o speak_v honourable_o of_o his_o enemy_n for_o his_o own_o advantadge_n 3._o descend_v unto_o the_o controversy_n 20._o controversy_n chap._n 20._o whether_o any_o sin_n be_v remit_v after_o this_o life_n or_o not_o he_o use_v this_o pretence_n viz._n whereas_o lombard_n and_o other_o do_v say_v that_o some_o venial_a sin_n be_v remit_v after_o this_o life_n we_o must_v so_o understand_v their_o say_n that_o therefore_o they_o be_v say_v to_o be_v remit_v after_o this_o life_n because_o they_o be_v take_v away_o in_o the_o very_a moment_n of_o dissolution_n and_o the_o last_o instant_n of_o life_n be_v the_o first_o after_o life_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o sum_n of_o that_o exposition_n which_o he_o make_v of_o lombard_n and_o other_o man_n opinion_n concern_v the_o remission_n of_o sin_n after_o this_o life_n wherein_o how_o sincere_o and_o exact_o he_o deal_v i_o will_v not_o now_o dispute_v 4._o i_o come_v unto_o his_o proof_n bring_v forth_o by_o he_o to_o corroborate_v the_o aforesaid_a exposition_n which_o i_o will_v here_o relate_v word_n by_o word_n as_o it_o stand_v in_o his_o book_n hereunto_o seem_v 46._o seem_v dialog_n l._n 4._o cap._n 46._o gregory_n to_o agree_v say_v that_o the_o very_a fear_n that_o be_v find_v in_o man_n die_v do_v purdge_n their_o soul_n go_v out_o of_o the_o body_n from_o the_o lesser_a sin_n see_v therefore_o as_o 10._o as_o in_o psalm_n qui_fw-la habitat_fw-la ser_fw-mi 10._o bernard_n say_v if_o all_o sin_n be_v perfect_o take_v away_o which_o be_v the_o cause_n the_o effect_n must_v needs_o cease_v which_o be_v punishment_n it_o follow_v that_o see_v after_o death_n there_o be_v no_o sin_n find_v in_o man_n die_v in_o state_n of_o grace_n there_o remain_v no_o punishment_n and_o consequent_o no_o 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purpose_n to_o collude_v three_o by_o a_o extension_n for_o whereas_o s._n gregory_n say_v justorum_n the_o soul_n of_o just_a man_n he_o render_v the_o speech_n in_o a_o more_o general_a and_o unconfined_a manner_n viz._n the_o soul_n of_o man_n die_v and_o thus_o he_o mangle_v a_o clear_a sentence_n to_o derive_v a_o conclusion_n from_o it_o 121._o many_o such_o trick_n be_v discover_v by_o the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o l._n plessis_n see_v the_o defence_n of_o the_o relation_n of_o a_o trial_n concern_v religion_n in_o france_n it_o be_v annex_v to_o the_o examen_fw-la of_o fox_n his_o calendar-saint_n part._n 1._o a_o cathol_a doctr_n pag._n 121._o contrary_a to_o the_o purpose_n of_o the_o author_n there_o and_o his_o doctrine_n in_o other_o place_n 6._o for_o if_o not_o all_o light_a sin_n but_o the_o least_o in_o the_o soul_n of_o iust_o man_n to_o wit_n such_o as_o be_v of_o singular_a sanctity_n and_o not_o general_o of_o man_n die_v in_o state_n of_o grace_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n and_o not_o always_o purdge_v out_o by_o fear_n at_o the_o time_n of_o their_o death_n than_o it_o follow_v by_o inevitable_a deduction_n that_o some_o sin_n be_v purdge_v in_o a_o other_o world_n and_o consequent_o there_o be_v a_o purgatory_n for_o this_o use_n this_o be_v the_o intendment_n of_o s._n gregory_n and_o therefore_o a_o m._n rogers_n that_o catholic_n author_n dissemble_v not_o this_o matter_n in_o s._n gregory_n but_o say_v plain_o as_o the_o truth_n be_v which_o fault_n he_o be_v not_o much_o subject_n unto_o some_o papist_n viz._n gregor_n dialog_n l._n 4._o c._n 39_o do_v think_v that_o only_o venial_a sin_n be_v purdge_v in_o purgatory_n 7._o in_o which_o passage_n three_o thing_n offer_v themselves_o unto_o my_o consideration_n first_o the_o limitation_n of_o his_o speech_n some_o a_o particle_n mere_o superfluous_a 2._o
see_v afterward_o part._n 2._o chap._n 1._o §._o 2._o for_o all_o papist_n be_v of_o this_o opinion_n viz._n that_o no_o sin_n but_o venial_a only_o shall_v be_v expiate_v in_o purgatory_n fire_n second_o the_o imputation_n of_o popery_n fasten_v upon_o he_o from_o who_o we_o englishman_n receive_v our_o first_o instruction_n in_o the_o faith_n this_o be_v a_o good_a motive_n unto_o i_o to_o embrace_v popery_n as_o passionate_a sir_n martin_n luther_n phrase_v the_o catholic_n religion_n who_o i_o may_v more_o just_o call_v a_o foul_a mouth_a dog_n then_o 1._o then_o against_o d._n bishop_n part._n 1._o d._n abbott_n bestow_v this_o homely_a courtesy_n upon_o a_o very_a learned_a w._n learned_a t._n w._n priest_n since_o we_o be_v translate_v immediate_o from_o paganism_n unto_o this_o belief_n by_o the_o wonderful_a and_o gracious_a operation_n of_o almighty_a god_n three_o his_o confession_n of_o s._n gregory_n judgement_n concern_v the_o remission_n of_o some_o sin_n after_o this_o life_n which_o d._n field_n will_v infringe_v as_o you_o see_v by_o misinforce_v his_o testimony_n against_o his_o evident_a purpose_n in_o that_o 39_o that_o lib._n 4._o dial_n 39_o place_n and_o his_o resolution_n elsewhere_o 8._o for_o in_o his_o exposition_n of_o the_o penitential_a psalm_n he_o deliver_v in_o each_o in_o psal_n 1._o &_o 3._o in_o the_o begin_n of_o each_o two_o several_a place_n and_o strengthen_v himself_o in_o the_o first_o with_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n augustine_n who_o he_o there_o express_o name_v that_o some_o man_n pass_v into_o heaven_n by_o the_o fire_n of_o purgation_n and_o be_v expiate_v thereby_o in_o the_o future_a life_n can_v i_o desire_v a_o more_o copious_a satisfaction_n in_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o matter_n or_o can_v i_o wish_v a_o more_o abundant_a redargution_n of_o d._n fields_n falsehood_n in_o traduce_v the_o testament_n of_o the_o dead_a for_o so_o their_o work_n be_v to_o establish_v that_o doctrine_n which_o they_o do_v whole_o disclaim_v 9_o now_o a_o word_n or_o two_o concern_v s._n bernard_n who_o he_o couple_v very_o plausible_o with_o s._n gregory_n as_o you_o may_v see_v to_o infer_v a_o conclusion_n against_o that_o faith_n which_o they_o both_o profess_v i_o turn_v unto_o the_o place_n in_o s._n bernard_n which_o true_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n admit_v such_o a_o interpretation_n as_o m._n doctor_n do_v colourable_o pretend_v for_o it_o be_v not_o the_o meaning_n of_o s._n bernard_n to_o deny_v that_o god_n do_v at_o any_o time_n inflict_v a_o temporal_a pain_n after_o the_o remission_n of_o the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n because_o this_o position_n be_v extreme_o repugnant_a unto_o scripture_n and_o father_n and_o reason_n as_o i_o shall_v brief_o declare_v 2._o declare_v part._n 2._o chap._n 1._o §._o 2._o afterward_o and_o unto_o the_o very_a condition_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n itself_o wherein_o s._n bernard_n know_v right_a well_o that_o sin_n be_v remit_v and_o yet_o all_o future_a punishment_n be_v not_o thereby_o take_v away_o this_o be_v the_o conform_a doctrine_n of_o the_o catholic_n in_o his_o time_n and_o who_o be_v so_o mean_o skill_v in_o s._n bernard_n faith_n as_o to_o conceive_v that_o he_o will_v oppugn_v a_o matter_n of_o such_o sublimity_n and_o so_o correspondent_o entertain_v by_o the_o church_n 10._o but_o the_o truth_n be_v this_o s._n bernard_n persuade_v man_n to_o fly_v from_o the_o contagion_n of_o sin_n the_o effect_n whereof_o be_v such_o that_o as_o by_o natural_a death_n it_o sever_v the_o soul_n from_o the_o body_n so_o by_o spiritual_a death_n it_o sunder_v god_n from_o the_o soul_n and_o as_o sin_n bring_v forth_o punishment_n so_o the_o cessation_n from_o sin_n prevent_v punishment_n because_o no_o punishment_n do_v follow_v where_o no_o sin_n be_v go_v before_o what_o then_o do_v no_o effect_n of_o sin_n remain_v where_o the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n be_v remit_v s._n bernard_n sequel_n bernard_n he_o esteem_v death_n itself_o to_o be_v a_o punishment_n of_o sin_n as_o you_o may_v see_v by_o the_o sequel_n deni_v it_o and_o therefore_o show_v in_o what_o sense_n he_o there_o intend_v that_o when_o all_o sin_n shall_v be_v huberti_fw-la be_v prorsus_fw-la d._n field_n himself_o confess_v pag._n 98._o that_o death_n tyrannize_v over_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n serm._n in_o ●bitu_fw-la huberti_fw-la whole_o take_v out_o of_o the_o way_n then_o shall_v no_o effect_n of_o it_o remain_v he_o subnect_v this_o sentence_n in_o his_o sweet_a and_o divine_a manner_n viz._n happy_a be_v our_o expectation_n and_o bless_a be_v our_o hope_n who_o resurrection_n shall_v be_v much_o more_o glorious_a than_o our_o first_o estate_n of_o creation_n before_o our_o fall_n forasmuch_o as_o neither_o sin_n nor_o punishment_n neither_o evil_a nor_o scourdge_n shall_v reign_v or_o dwell_v or_o have_v possibility_n to_o reign_v or_o dwell_v either_o in_o our_o body_n or_o soul_n 11._o to_o conclude_v it_o may_v please_v you_o to_o read_v and_o to_o ponderate_v this_o one_o little_o say_v of_o s._n bernard_n by_o which_o you_o may_v take_v a_o estimate_n of_o his_o judgement_n in_o these_o matter_n my_o brethren_n while_o you_o think_v to_o avoid_v a_o very_a small_a punishment_n in_o this_o world_n you_o incur_v a_o great_a in_o the_o next_o for_o you_o must_v understand_v that_o you_o shall_v pay_v a_o hundred_o fold_n in_o locis_fw-la in_o in_o purgabilibus_fw-la locis_fw-la purgatory_n for_o those_o thing_n which_o you_o neglect_v in_o this_o life_n 12._o i_o know_v most_o kind_a reader_n that_o you_o marvel_v no_o less_o now_o than_o i_o do_v by_o what_o art_n d._n field_n can_v distil_v his_o church_n out_o of_o the_o writing_n of_o these_o worthy_a and_o learned_a man_n or_o how_o their_o authority_n may_v be_v honest_o allege_v to_o prove_v that_o papist_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o faction_n in_o the_o church_n forasmuch_o as_o those_o author_n general_o who_o he_o produce_v in_o his_o glorious_a appendix_n be_v real_o interest_v in_o that_o faction_n and_o enemy_n of_o our_o protestanticall_a church_n wherefore_o i_o do_v now_o sufficient_o understand_v that_o we_o protestant_n assume_v the_o name_n of_o israel_n unto_o ourselves_o and_o impute_v the_o name_n of_o philistines_n unto_o the_o papist_n can_v not_o justify_v our_o affectation_n therein_o by_o any_o better_a resemblance_n than_o this_o viz._n as_o the_o poor_a 13.19.20_o 1._o sam._n 13.19.20_o distress_a israelites_n be_v constrain_v to_o repair_v unto_o the_o philistines_n for_o the_o sharpen_n of_o their_o dull_a tool_n so_o we_o miserable_a protestant_n have_v no_o better_a mean_n be_v enforce_v to_o go_v unto_o the_o papist_n to_o procure_v some_o weapon_n for_o our_o defence_n from_o they_o which_o we_o turn_v ungrateful_o and_o unjust_o against_o their_o own_o bowel_n §._o 2._o s._n augustine_n abuse_v by_o d._n field_n 1._o you_o have_v 13._o have_v pag._n 13._o see_v the_o goodly_a pretence_n of_o d._n field_n assure_v you_o that_o the_o protestant_n honour_n and_o reverence_v the_o father_n much_o more_o than_o the_o papist_n do_v which_o venditation_n if_o it_o do_v proceed_v from_o a_o sincere_a heart_n then_o d._n field_n shall_v not_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o his_o inflexion_n and_o corruption_n to_o sustain_v his_o cause_n with_o their_o disgrace_n and_o much_o less_o with_o infame_v the_o great_a of_o they_o all_o in_o this_o manner_n which_o i_o will_v here_o represent_v unto_o your_o christian_a view_n 2._o the_o romish_a manner_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a say_v 99_o say_v pag._n 99_o he_o have_v no_o certain_a testimony_n of_o antiquity_n for_o no_o man_n ever_o think_v of_o purgatory_n till_o augustine_n to_o avoid_v a_o worse_a error_n do_v doubting_o run_v into_o it_o false_a it_o and_o none_o before_o that_o be_v false_a after_o who_o false_a who_o and_o not_o all_o that_o be_v false_a many_o in_o the_o latin_a church_n embrace_v the_o same_o opinion_n but_o the_o 54._o the_o see_v before_o pag._n 54._o greek_a church_n never_o receive_v it_o to_o this_o day_n 3._o he_o be_v yet_o more_o severe_a unto_o s._n augustine_n unto_o the_o papist_n and_o unto_o this_o doctrine_n saying_n that_o 79._o that_o pag._n 79._o augustine_n doubtful_o broach_v that_o opinion_n which_o give_v occasion_n to_o the_o papist_n of_o their_o heresy_n touch_v purgatory_n this_o imputation_n of_o heresy_n do_v cleave_v as_o strong_o unto_o the_o father_n who_o he_o pretend_v to_o honour_n and_o reverence_n as_o unto_o any_o papist_n at_o this_o day_n for_o what_o shall_v i_o speak_v of_o defunct_a of_o part._n 4._o serm._n the_o defunct_a &_o in_o querelâ_fw-la defunct_a gerson_n heresy_n in_o this_o point_n who_o he_o honour_v and_o reverence_v so_o far_o as_o to_o entitle_v he_o a_o 85._o a_o pag._n 85._o worthy_a guide_n of_o god_n church_n etc._n etc._n 4._o now_o though_o i_o observe_v many_o
they_o that_o be_v torment_v shall_v abide_v in_o purgatory_n for_o some_o have_v give_v out_o how_o the_o poor_a soul_n there_o be_v continual_o in_o torment_n till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n as_o 7._o as_o de_fw-fr offic_n mort_fw-fr l._n 7._o diony_n carthusianus_n other_o as_o 7._o as_o de_fw-fr offic_n mort_fw-fr l._n 7._o durandus_n noviss_n de_fw-fr 4._o noviss_n do_v think_v that_o they_o have_v rest_n sometime_o as_o upon_o sunday_n and_o holy_a day_n other_o be_v of_o mind_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v set_v free_a and_o at_o liberty_n because_o their_o punishment_n be_v but_o temporal_a etc._n etc._n 2._o here_o be_v a_o ample_a testimony_n of_o a_o unfaithful_a heart_n for_o whereas_o this_o man_n of_o great_a experience_n be_v please_v to_o affirm_v that_o some_o papist_n imprison_v the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n until_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o that_o by_o this_o opinion_n they_o dissent_v from_o other_o who_o conceive_v that_o their_o pain_n be_v not_o of_o such_o perpetuity_n and_o length_n he_o offer_v a_o general_a injury_n unto_o they_o all_o and_o more_o particular_o unto_o that_o author_n who_o he_o allege_v to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v most_o untrue_a that_o carthusianus_n do_v deliver_v such_o a_o fancy_n or_o that_o he_o be_v of_o such_o opinion_n witness_v that_o little_a treatise_n de_fw-la modo_fw-la liberandi_fw-la animam_fw-la è_fw-la purgatorio_fw-la witness_v his_o clear_a assertion_n that_o soul_n 30._o soul_n dialog_n de_fw-fr particulari_fw-la iudicio_fw-la any_fw-la i_o cap._n 30._o be_v cleanse_v in_o purgatory_n mount_v up_o and_o fly_v into_o the_o celestial_a paradise_n etc._n etc._n 3._o what_o evidence_n therefore_o have_v m._n rogers_n to_o justify_v this_o imputation_n i_o find_v none_o but_o this_o ensue_a noviss_n de_fw-fr 4._o noviss_n dionysius_n report_v a_o certain_a vision_n of_o a_o englishman_n who_o behold_v a_o soul_n grievous_o afflict_v in_o a_o place_n of_o torment_n from_o which_o he_o 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among_o themselves_o say_v he_o about_o the_o cause_n of_o purgatory_n torment_n ibid._n ibid._n for_o some_o do_v think_v that_o only_o venial_a sin_n other_o think_v that_o mortal_a sin_n also_o for_o which_o man_n have_v do_v no_o penance_n in_o this_o life_n be_v there_o purdge_v 2._o the_o first_o opinion_n concern_v venial_a sin_n he_o attribute_v unto_o s._n gregory_n &_o term_v he_o a_o papist_n either_o forget_v or_o not_o regard_v that_o our_o christian_a faith_n descend_v original_o from_o he_o and_o that_o it_o be_v receive_v conformable_o by_o our_o state_n and_o that_o it_o be_v protect_v open_o for_o 930._o year_n by_o our_o worthy_a prince_n in_o the_o number_n of_o who_o many_o be_v pious_a in_o religion_n as_o david_n wise_a in_o counsel_n as_o solomon_n valiant_a in_o war_n as_o josuah_n in_o a_o word_n that_o this_o faith_n have_v be_v glorious_a in_o dignity_n and_o fruitful_a in_o good_a work_n and_o true_o these_o cogitation_n do_v enter_v so_o forcible_o into_o 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