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justify_v man_n may_v fall_v away_o from_o god_n and_o become_v not_o the_o child_n of_o god_n appeal_v page_n 59_o the_o church_n of_o england_n hold_v and_o teach_v punctual_o that_o a_o man_n may_v fall_v from_o grace_n appeal_v page_n 73._o it_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o a_o man_n justify_v may_v fall_v away_o from_o grace_n ap._n p._n 89._o and_o when_o he_o have_v belabour_v himself_o almost_o out_o of_o breath_n to_o prove_v that_o fall_v from_o grace_n be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o ancient_n and_o the_o scripture_n he_o conclude_v in_o these_o word_n i_o do_v not_o say_v more_o than_o i_o be_o urge_v to_o do_v by_o the_o plain_a and_o express_v word_n of_o our_o article_n and_o doctrine_n public_o profess_v and_o establish_v in_o our_o church_n appeal_v page_n 37._o other_o fair_a flower_n that_o argue_v he_o one_o of_o the_o learn_a in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n may_v be_v collect_v hither_o but_o i_o 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a_o writ_n of_o dotage_n the_o bishop_n shall_v have_v the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o furious_a one_o and_o all_o her_o child_n to_o bear_v he_o company_n the_o homily_n conclude_v p._n 132._o that_o image_n ought_v to_o be_v abolish_v so_o do_v the_o bishop_n p._n 383._o but_o master_n mountagu_n will_v none_o of_o that_o appeal_v p._n 255._o the_o reason_n which_o our_o church_n and_o the_o bishop_n do_v allege_v be_v this_o viz._n because_o they_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o much_o evil_n m._n mountagu_n say_v not_o they_o be_v sometime_o profitable_a gag_n p._n 318._o but_o i_o will_v follow_v the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o the_o bishop_n let_v he_o gang_n alone_o for_o i_o by_o these_o argument_n of_o our_o church_n propound_v and_o defend_v against_o his_o exception_n it_o do_v evident_o appear_v that_o image_n in_o church_n and_o employ_v as_o he_o appoint_v be_v unlawful_a and_o from_o thence_o may_v necessary_o be_v infer_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o m._n mountagu_n that_o honour_n be_v not_o due_a to_o image_n if_o he_o do_v not_o rest_v content_a with_o this_o proof_n it_o stand_v he_o upon_o to_o show_v we_o the_o divine_a law_n which_o injoin_v man_n to_o give_v honour_n to_o image_n forasmuch_o as_o without_o such_o a_o law_n the_o honour_v of_o they_o be_v a_o humane_a invention_n &_o a_o service_n do_v unto_o god_n which_o he_o reject_v as_o odious_a and_o abominable_a and_o consequent_o the_o faith_n decree_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o receive_v by_o m._n mountagu_n touch_v the_o have_v employ_v and_o honour_v of_o image_n be_v erroneous_a chap._n xvii_o of_o work_n of_o supererogation_n m._n mountagu_n the_o church_n of_o england_n a_o man_n may_v do_v with_o the_o assistance_n of_o god_n grace_n thing_n as_o counsel_v only_o and_o not_o command_v voluntary_a work_n beside_o over_o and_o above_o godâ—_n commandment_n 1_o be_v work_n of_o supererogation_n 2._o canâ—â—t_v be_v teach_v without_o pride_n arrogancy_n and_o impiety_n a_o man_n in_o some_o one_o point_n may_v do_v more_o than_o be_v exact_v  _fw-fr a_o man_n may_v do_v more_o than_o he_o need_v to_o have_v do_v out_o of_o strict_a command_n gag_v p._n 104._o  _fw-fr a_o man_n may_v do_v more_o than_o he_o be_v tie_v unto_o by_o any_o law_n of_o god_n gag_v pag._n 105._o  _fw-fr chap._n xviii_o the_o former_a point_n of_o work_n of_o supererogation_n be_v dispute_v according_a to_o our_o former_a course_n three_o question_n be_v to_o be_v handle_v 1_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o such_o work_n or_o no._n 2_o whether_o in_o affirm_v of_o they_o he_o consent_v with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o not_o 3_o whether_o he_o dissent_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n therein_o or_o no._n in_o this_o chapter_n i_o have_v bring_v no_o doctrine_n under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n because_o hitherto_o i_o have_v follow_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n which_o have_v decree_v nothing_o in_o this_o point_n therefore_o the_o faith_n of_o that_o church_n in_o this_o point_n be_v to_o be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o doctrine_n common_o receive_v among_o they_o touch_v it_o and_o because_o there_o be_v no_o author_n among_o they_o fit_a to_o report_v what_o that_o be_v than_o bellarmine_n i_o will_v set_v down_o what_o he_o say_v of_o it_o it_o be_v this_o holy_a man_n may_v do_v such_o thing_n for_o god_n sake_n which_o they_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o do_v and_o these_o be_v work_n of_o supererogation_n de_fw-fr indul._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o respondeo_fw-la non_fw-la etc._n etc._n de_fw-fr monachis_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 7._o 9_o 13._o the_o gâ—gger_n have_v the_o same_o thing_n report_v by_o mr._n mountagu_n in_o his_o gag_n page_n 104._o in_o the_o margin_n in_o these_o word_n man_n by_o assistance_n of_o god_n grace_n may_v do_v some_o thing_n counsel_v and_o these_o we_o call_v work_v of_o supererogation_n that_o he_o do_v consent_n unto_o this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n he_o profess_v plain_o and_o full_o thus_o he_o write_v i_o willing_o subscribe_v unto_o the_o point_n of_o counsel_n evangelicall_a gag_n page_n 103._o and_o further_o he_o say_v of_o the_o definition_n of_o work_n of_o supererogation_n which_o i_o have_v report_v out_o of_o he_o no_o 1._o give_v by_o his_o adversary_n the_o gagger_n if_o these_o be_v your_o work_n of_o supererogation_n and_o no_o otherwise_o i_o will_v not_o contend_v with_o you_o page_z 104._o he_o do_v agree_v with_o they_o likewise_o in_o explicate_v and_o set_v down_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o council_n evangelical_a as_o he_o call_v it_o bellarmine_n say_v thus_o of_o it_o it_o be_v a_o good_a work_n show_v not_o command_v it_o differ_v from_o a_o precept_n in_o this_o a_o precept_n bind_v of_o its_o own_o force_n a_o council_n be_v commit_v to_o man_n free_a choice_n when_o a_o precept_n be_v observe_v it_o have_v the_o reward_n be_v not_o observe_v it_o have_v punishment_n but_o if_o a_o council_n be_v not_o observe_v it_o 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decree_n to_o glorify_v peter_n without_o any_o consideration_n have_v of_o his_o faith_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o private_a fancy_n of_o some_o particular_a man_n appeal_v page_n 58._o never_n hear_v of_o till_o of_o late_a page_n 31._o from_o hence_o he_o must_v infer_v therefore_o this_o sentence_n god_n do_v decree_n to_o glorify_v peter_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o true_a i_o answer_v the_o inference_n be_v naught_o truth_n in_o divinity_n stand_v in_o a_o conformity_n unto_o the_o divine_a revelation_n not_o unto_o the_o soon_o or_o late_a apprehension_n and_o report_n of_o man_n if_o you_o mean_v it_o be_v not_o reveal_v than_o your_o term_n of_o private_a fancy_n and_o yesterday_n hearsay_n be_v but_o toy_n for_o child_n how_o dare_v you_o say_v our_o doctrine_n of_o predestination_n be_v a_o private_a fancy_n and_o a_o novel_a opinion_n see_v king_n james_n of_o famous_a memory_n for_o learning_n and_o knowledge_n have_v express_o avow_a it_o in_o these_o word_n predestination_n 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