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that_o kingdom_n of_o our_o saviour_n which_o by_o this_o his_o bloodshedding_n he_o purchase_v to_o himself_o and_o therefore_o from_o that_o time_n be_v full_o invest_v with_o the_o whole_a sovereignty_n over_o the_o church_n of_o god_n he_o tell_v his_o holy_a apostle_n that_o 18._o all_o power_n be_v give_v unto_o he_o in_o heaven_n and_o in_o earth_n in_o the_o explication_n of_o which_o word_n maldonat_a the_o jesuit_n tell_v we_o 18._o loquor_fw-la hic_fw-la non_fw-la de_fw-la qualibet_fw-la potestate_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-la eà _fw-la quam_fw-la apostolis_n dabat_fw-la i._n e._n de_fw-fr potestate_fw-la regni_fw-la svi_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la acquirendi_fw-la colligendique_fw-la quam_fw-la ad_fw-la rem_fw-la apostolos_fw-la mittebat_fw-la &_o ita_fw-la loquor_fw-la quasi_fw-la eam_fw-la potestatem_fw-la ante_fw-la resurrectionem_fw-la non_fw-la habuerit_fw-la nam_fw-la tanquam_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la nova_fw-la dicit_fw-la data_fw-la est_fw-la mihi_fw-la omnis_fw-la potestas_fw-la i._n e._n he_o speak_v not_o of_o every_o power_n but_o only_o of_o that_o which_o he_o give_v his_o apostle_n that_o be_v the_o power_n of_o acquire_v and_o gather_v his_o spiritual_a kingdom_n for_o which_o purpose_n he_o send_v his_o apostle_n and_o he_o speak_v so_o as_o if_o he_o have_v not_o that_o power_n before_o his_o resurrection_n for_o he_o say_v as_o of_o a_o thing_n new_o do_v all_o power_n be_v give_v unto_o i_o etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o de_fw-fr eâ_fw-la denique_fw-la loquor_fw-la potestate_fw-la de_fw-la quâ_fw-la apud_fw-la johannem_fw-la dicit_fw-la 33._o confidite_fw-la ego_fw-la vici_fw-la mundum_fw-la hanc_fw-la sibi_fw-la potestatem_fw-la per_fw-la mortem_fw-la &_o resurrectionem_fw-la svam_fw-la datam_fw-la esse_fw-la dicit_fw-la quia_fw-la eam_fw-la meruit_fw-la 10._o propter_fw-la quod_fw-la inquit_fw-la exaltavit_fw-la eum_fw-la &_o dedit_fw-la illi_fw-la nomen_fw-la quod_fw-la esset_fw-la super_fw-la omne_fw-la nomen_fw-la 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