Selected quad for the lemma: sin_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
sin_n	faith_n	justify_v	remission_n	9,449	5	10.2949	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A07805	The encounter against M. Parsons, by a revievv of his last sober reckoning, and his exceptions vrged in the treatise of his mitigation. Wherein moreouer is inserted: 1. A confession of some Romanists, both concerning the particular falsifications of principall Romanists, as namely, Bellarmine, Suarez, and others: as also concerning the generall fraude of that curch, in corrupting of authors. 2. A confutation of slaunders, which Bellarmine vrged against Protestants. 3. A performance of the challenge, which Mr. Parsons made, for the examining of sixtie Fathers, cited by Coccius for proofe of Purgatorie ... 4. A censure of a late pamphlet, intituled, The patterne of a Protestant, by one once termed the moderate answerer. 5. An handling of his question of mentall equiuocation (after his boldnesse with the L. Cooke) vpon occasion of the most memorable, and feyned Yorkeshire case of equiuocating; and of his raging against D. Kings sermon. Published by authoritie	Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659.	1610 (1610)	STC 18183; ESTC S112913	342,598	466

and_o venial_a sin_n and_o hold_v that_o by_o every_o least_o sin_n we_o lose_v our_o justice_n and_o consequent_o that_o all_o sin_n be_v mortal_a bellarmine_n cite_v for_o the_o same_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n hierome_n who_o ascribe_v pelag._n that_o for_o heresy_n unto_o the_o pelagian_n and_o whereas_o in_o like_a manner_n he_o prove_v the_o same_o heresy_n not_o only_o to_o be_v hold_v by_o luther_n and_o melancthon_n but_o also_o by_o caluine_n in_o diverse_a part_n of_o his_o work_n as_o 1._o 2._o instit._fw-la c._n 8._o §_o 85._o &_o 1._o 3._o c._n 4._o §_o 28._o etc._n etc._n m_o morton_n take_v upon_o he_o to_o clear_a caluine_n in_o the_o former_a charge_n about_o original_a sin_n though_o so_o unlucky_o as_o you_o have_v hear_v say_v never_o a_o word_n against_o this_o second_o about_o the_o distinction_n of_o venial_a and_o mortal_a sin_n whereby_o it_o be_v evident_a in_o all_o probability_n that_o he_o admit_v that_o for_o true_a and_o consequent_o yield_v secret_o that_o calvin_n st_n do_v agree_v with_o the_o pelagian_n in_o this_o heresy_n though_o he_o storm_v sharp_o against_o 〈◊〉_d as_o you_o have_v hear_v for_o charge_v caluine_n with_o any_o point_n of_o pelagianisme_n at_o all_o and_o this_o fraud_n or_o frailty_n he_o commit_v common_o in_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o heresy_n object_v deny_v the_o one_o weak_o and_o by_o his_o silence_n grant_v the_o other_o as_o now_o by_o experience_n you_o shall_v find_v the_o reveiwe_v 10._o which_o by_o experience_n yourself_o shall_v find_v to_o have_v be_v both_o unsober_o and_o unlucky_o object_v by_o yourself_o for_o in_o my_o last_o 3._o book_n of_o catholic_a appeal_v both_o this_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o heresy_n object_v by_o bellarmine_n have_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v very_o slanderous_a concern_v this_o particular_a the_o sum_n of_o my_o answer_n be_v this_o first_o there_o appear_v no_o such_o word_n in_o saint_n hierome_n nor_o do_v saint_n augustine_n in_o his_o catalogue_n of_o heresy_n nor_o yet_o the_o romish_a author_n castro_n prateolus_n lindane_n or_o other_o in_o their_o discuss_n of_o heresy_n observe_v any_o such_o heresy_n in_o the_o pelagian_n 11._o second_o sin_n be_v say_v to_o be_v venial_a in_o two_o respect_n mortal_a either_o in_o their_o own_o nature_n or_o else_o by_o god_n grace_n and_o indulgence_n in_o nature_n all_o sin_n be_v mortal_a albeit_o not_o all_o equal_a by_o god_n mercy_n who_o do_v not_o deal_v with_o his_o regenerate_a according_a to_o his_o exact_a justice_n many_o kind_n of_o infirmity_n may_v be_v call_v venial_a in_o which_o respect_n only_o your_o roffensis_n be_v 929._o note_v to_o have_v judge_v of_o they_o according_o call_z they_o venial_a but_o not_o in_o their_o nature_n but_o only_o through_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n who_o do_v not_o impute_v they_o unto_o damnation_n and_o what_o the_o impossibility_n of_o contrary_a doctrine_n be_v have_v be_v likewise_o 4._o manifest_v at_o large_a neither_o do_v gerson_n or_o almain_n accord_n unto_o your_o common_a opinion_n as_o erroribꝰ_n bellarmme_v himself_o do_v confess_v the_o cause_n of_o caluine_n stand_v thus_o upright_o the_o slander_n which_o be_v cast_v upon_o he_o will_v prove_v no_o venial_a sin_n sect_n ii_o the_o second_o slander_n use_v by_o card._n bellarmine_n the_o charge_n concern_v the_o heresy_n of_o the_o novatian_n in_o deny_v penance_n 12._o 63._o bellarmine_n make_v protestant_n guilty_a of_o the_o heresy_n of_o novatianorun_v the_o novatian_n in_o take_v from_o the_o church_n all_o power_n of_o reconcile_a man_n unto_o god_n but_o by_o baptism_n whereby_o he_o mean_v no_o sacrament_n but_o baptism_n when_o as_o his_o own_o author_n note_n that_o 4._o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o novatian_n be_v this_o viz._n to_o deny_v any_o man_n who_o shall_v sin_v after_o baptism_n all_o hope_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n although_o he_o shall_v repent_v yea_o and_o also_o bellarmine_n himself_o in_o behalf_n of_o protestant_n confess_v elsewhere_a that_o alius_fw-la they_o require_v repentance_n and_o faith_n in_o christian_n that_o they_o may_v be_v justify_v and_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n neither_o do_v he_o note_v any_o difference_n between_o we_o and_o the_o romanist_n 〈◊〉_d about_o repentance_n as_o it_o be_v a_o conversion_n unto_o god_n with_o detestation_n of_o sin_n or_o as_o it_o consist_v in_o outward_a sign_n of_o sorrow_n weep_v confession_n and_o outward_a chastisement_n yea_o and_o almost_o all_o of_o they_o allow_v a_o outward_a rite_n of_o absolution_n but_o the_o only_a controversy_n between_o we_o be_v whether_o penance_n be_v proper_o a_o sacrament_n here_o i_o be_o call_v to_o a_o severe_a account_n the_o brief_a whereof_o follow_v the_o sum_n of_o mr_n parson_n his_o reckon_a here_o he_o will_v make_v a_o difference_n between_o card._n bellarmine_n and_o 160._o other_o author_n about_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o novatian_n but_o all_o be_v full_a of_o fraud_n his_o drift_n be_v to_o argue_v bellarmine_n of_o falsity_n for_o affirm_v that_o protestant_n of_o our_o day_n do_v join_v with_o the_o old_a heretic_n the_o novatian_n in_o take_v from_o the_o church_n all_o power_n of_o reconcile_a man_n unto_o god_n for_o these_o be_v bellarmine_n word_n and_o to_o contradict_v bellarmine_n he_o cit_v the_o word_n of_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n say_v that_o the_o heresy_n etc._n etc._n but_o these_o be_v not_o contrary_a for_o the_o novatian_n teach_v both_o point_n principal_o that_o there_o be_v no_o power_n in_o the_o church_n to_o reconcile_v they_o who_o fall_v after_o baptism_n especial_o into_o grievous_a sin_n as_o testify_v cyprian_a saint_n ambrose_n and_o other_o and_o this_o first_o part_n be_v against_o the_o key_n of_o the_o church_n and_o power_n to_o remit_v sin_n and_o herein_o all_o author_n do_v agree_v but_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o error_n go_v further_o as_o some_o do_v gather_v out_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n as_o testify_v suarez_n although_o other_o be_v of_o a_o contrary_a opinion_n which_o be_v to_o deny_v furthermore_o beside_o the_o sacrament_n all_o virtue_n of_o penance_n whatsoever_o whether_o private_a or_o sacramental_a bellarmine_n do_v not_o ascribe_v unto_o protestant_n the_o denial_n of_o private_a repentance_n either_o inward_a or_o outward_a by_o sorrow_n and_o tear_n but_o their_o denial_n of_o penance_n as_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n and_o for_o m._n morton_n to_o infer_v that_o forasmuch_o as_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n say_v that_o the_o navatians_n do_v deny_v all_o power_n of_o penance_n therefore_o bellarmine_n say_v not_o true_o that_o they_o deny_v the_o sacramental_a use_n thereof_o be_v a_o most_o absurd_a manner_n of_o reason_v call_v à_fw-la disparatis_fw-la for_o both_o may_v be_v true_a the_o one_o exclude_v not_o the_o other_o the_o reveiwe_v 13._o if_o i_o shall_v give_v you_o leave_v to_o make_v my_o reason_n it_o be_v not_o unlikely_a but_o i_o may_v have_v they_o absurd_a you_o must_v therefore_o suffer_v i_o to_o make_v my_o own_o account_n which_o i_o will_v bring_v into_o the_o true_a form_n of_o reason_v thus_o whosoever_o do_v hold_v the_o heresy_n of_o the_o novatian_n in_o the_o denial_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n do_v according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n deny_v that_o there_o be_v any_o hope_n in_o any_o man_n sin_v after_o baptism_n to_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n although_o he_o shall_v repent_v but_o protestant_n as_o card._n bellarmine_n consesle_v do_v not_o deny_v all_o hope_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n commit_v after_o baptism_n if_o sinner_n repent_v ergo_fw-la the_o protestant_n hold_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o novatian_n 14._o be_v not_o this_o conclusion_n establish_v in_o the_o mayor_n by_o castro_n and_o in_o the_o minor_a by_o bellarmine_n which_o in_o the_o conclusion_n be_v full_o contradictory_n unto_o his_o former_a assertion_n where_o he_o say_v protestant_n hold_v the_o heresy_n of_o the_o novatian_n neither_o be_v the_o argument_n take_v à_fw-la disparat_fw-la be_v but_o à_fw-la contradicentibus_fw-la and_o stand_v thus_o novatian_n deny_v all_o hope_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n commit_v after_o baptism_n and_o protestant_n confess_v some_o hope_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n commit_v after_o baptism_n this_o reason_n i_o hope_v can_v be_v call_v absurd_a 15._o nevertheless_o pass_v over_o this_o private_a penance_n as_o it_o be_v a_o virtue_n which_o every_o man_n must_v use_v for_o the_o obtain_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n let_v we_o proceed_v unto_o a_o second_o consideration_n of_o it_o as_o it_o be_v a_o power_n of_o reconciliation_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o key_n of_o the_o church_n concern_v this_o protestant_n be_v confess_v to_o admit_v a_o power_n of_o absolution_n in_o the_o church_n after_o baptism_n and_o almost_o all_o of_o they_o say_v bellarmine_n do_v allow_v a_o outward_a rite_n thereof_o for_o

the_o reconciliation_n in_o respect_n of_o notorious_a sinner_n which_o the_o novatian_n do_v deny_v but_o as_o for_o the_o form_n of_o this_o reconciliation_n as_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n or_o no_o it_o be_v never_o call_v into_o question_n or_o censure_v to_o be_v the_o heresy_n of_o the_o novatian_n therefore_o bellarmine_n by_o devise_v a_o new_a heresy_n which_o he_o call_v novatianisme_n that_o slander_n he_o may_v draw_v protestant_n into_o the_o guilt_n of_o a_o heresy_n have_v commit_v a_o gross_a and_o inexcusable_a slander_n and_o if_o mr._n parson_n shall_v answer_v this_o i_o shall_v be_v content_v to_o wear_v his_o badge_n and_o term_n of_o disgrace_n mr._n parson_n his_o reckon_a protestant's_n be_v not_o accuse_v by_o bellarmine_n for_o deny_v all_o penance_n supra_fw-la in_o general_a but_o for_o deny_v a_o sacramental_a penance_n the_o reveiwe_v 16._o if_o you_o have_v speak_v in_o bellarmine_n dialect_n you_o will_v not_o have_v say_v the_o denial_n of_o sacramental_a penance_n but_o the_o deny_v of_o penance_n to_o be_v a_o sacrament_n now_o i_o show_v out_o of_o your_o own_o author_n castro_n vega_n maldonate_fw-it that_o they_o in_o censure_v the_o error_n of_o the_o novatian_n do_v never_o note_v this_o to_o be_v the_o novatian_n heresy_n viz._n the_o denial_n of_o penance_n to_o be_v a_o sacrament_n neither_o can_v you_o m._n parson_n prove_v this_o out_o dissemble_n of_o any_o one_o of_o they_o albeit_o you_o have_v give_v your_o diligence_n to_o find_v it_o out_o and_o this_o i_o take_v to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a conviction_n for_o although_o the_o deny_v of_o all_o power_n of_o penance_n do_v imply_v a_o denial_n of_o all_o sacramental_a power_n yet_o because_o the_o former_a be_v a_o heresy_n it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o the_o latter_a must_v be_v also_o heretical_a for_o the_o sadducee_n deny_v the_o resurrection_n of_o man_n body_n which_o be_v a_o heresy_n of_o heresy_n do_v consequent_o deny_v that_o in_o the_o resurrection_n man_n body_n shall_v have_v their_o paradise_n upon_o earth_n which_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o some_o yet_o the_o deny_v of_o this_o be_v no_o heresy_n nay_o it_o be_v a_o heresy_n not_o to_o deny_v it_o after_o that_o m._n parson_n have_v thus_o bemud_v the_o water_n he_o seek_v to_o catch_v a_o eel_n which_o be_v no_o soon_o take_v but_o slip_v from_o he_o because_o he_o like_o one_o of_o the_o wise_a man_n of_o old_a take_v she_o by_o the_o tail_n shall_v we_o see_v how_o mr._n parson_n his_o reckon_a let_v we_o see_v brief_o how_o many_o false_a trick_n he_o use_v in_o this_o place_n the_o 163._o first_o of_o all_o may_v be_v that_o whereas_o card_n bellarmine_n to_o prove_v that_o our_o modern_a protestant_n do_v symbolize_v and_o agree_v with_o the_o old_a novatian_a heresy_n allege_v two_o particular_a instance_n first_o in_o deny_v the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o remit_v sin_n by_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n second_o in_o deny_v the_o use_n of_o holy_a chrism_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n m._n morton_n have_v nothing_o to_o say_v to_o the_o second_o reply_v only_o to_o the_o first_o by_o a_o equivocation_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v and_o yet_o if_o the_o second_o only_o be_v true_a bellarmine_n be_v justify_v in_o note_v protestant_n of_o novatianisme_n and_o therefore_o to_o deny_v the_o one_o and_o dissemble_v the_o other_o must_v needs_o proceed_v of_o wit_v fraud_n grant_v that_o which_o be_v chief_o in_o controversy_n to_o wit_n that_o protestant_n do_v hold_v in_o somewhat_o novatianisme_n the_o reveiwe_v 18._o that_o which_o in_o my_o preamble_n be_v for_o brevity_n sake_n divination_n remit_v to_o a_o further_a treatise_n no_o man_n of_o discretion_n will_v conclude_v to_o be_v therefore_o omit_v crafty_o as_o though_o it_o can_v not_o be_v just_o confute_v yet_o such_o be_v the_o intemperate_a &_o indeed_o unfortunate_a peremptorinesse_n of_o m._n parson_n for_o i_o have_v book_n elsewhere_o note_v that_o bellarmine_n even_o in_o this_o second_o point_n have_v commit_v a_o injury_n not_o only_o against_o caluine_n but_o even_o against_o the_o novatian_n themselves_o where_o this_o &_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o heresy_n which_o be_v object_v be_v handle_v at_o large_a whereby_o the_o discreet_a reader_n will_v perceive_v that_o there_o be_v as_o little_a fraud_n in_o my_o omission_n as_o there_o be_v much_o folly_n in_o mr._n parson_n his_o inference_n and_o collection_n mr._n parson_n his_o reckon_a and_o charge_n of_o falsity_n the_o second_o fraud_n be_v that_o when_o bellarm._n say_v that_o this_o be_v the_o principal_a 163._o error_n of_o the_o novatian_n the_o word_n principal_a import_v that_o they_o have_v other_o error_n beside_o be_v crafty_o cut_v off_o by_o m._n morton_n the_o reviewe_n and_o discharge_v 19_o true_a it_o be_v that_o bellarmine_n do_v note_v two_o error_n in_o the_o novatian_n the_o one_o be_v principal_a and_o the_o other_o be_v of_o less_o importance_n i_o for_o brevity_n sake_n prove_v card._n bellarmine_n a_o slanderer_n in_o the_o principal_a and_o m._n parson_n be_v offend_v with_o craft_n i_o that_o i_o have_v spare_v his_o reputation_n in_o the_o less_o principal_a and_o call_v it_o a_o point_n of_o craftiness_n to_o omit_v the_o examination_n of_o that_o in_o a_o preamble_n which_o i_o have_v discuss_v supr_n elsewhere_o in_o a_o full_a treatise_n so_o loose_a and_o luckless_a a_o man_n be_v m._n parson_n continual_o in_o his_o imputation_n of_o craft_n m._n parson_n his_o reckon_a and_o charge_n of_o falsity_n where_o bellarmine_n say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o power_n in_o the_o church_n to_o reconcile_v 162._o man_n unto_o god_n but_o only_o by_o baptism_n these_o last_o word_n also_o but_o only_o by_o baptism_n be_v by_o mr._n morton_n and_o by_o the_o same_o art_n shift_v out_o of_o the_o text_n for_o that_o they_o have_v relation_n to_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o church_n to_o who_o it_o appertain_v by_o public_a and_o ordinary_a office_n to_o baptize_v and_o in_o this_o the_o protestant_n be_v accuse_v by_o bellarmine_n to_o concur_v with_o they_o in_o denial_n of_o penance_n as_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n the_o review_n and_o discharge_v 20._o m._n parson_n his_o pallate_n be_v so_o distemper_a that_o it_o turn_v every_o thing_n that_o it_o taste_v into_o craft_n which_o unto_o i_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o argument_n of_o his_o selfe-guiltinesse_n in_o point_n of_o craftiness_n i_o allege_v the_o sentence_n thus_o novatian_n deny_v all_o hope_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n after_o baptism_n this_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o a_o power_n in_o baptism_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n how_o can_v he_o call_v this_o a_o shift_a have_v he_o any_o reason_n for_o it_o yes_o he_o have_v one_o i_o pray_v you_o mark_v it_o good_a reader_n conjecture_n for_o it_o be_v pretty_a the_o word_n be_v shuffle_v out_o of_o the_o text_n say_v he_o for_o that_o they_o have_v relation_n unto_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o church_n to_o who_o it_o appertain_v by_o public_a and_o ordinary_a office_n to_o baptize_v he_o may_v as_o well_o have_v say_v that_o i_o do_v it_o in_o envy_n unto_o our_o own_o protestant_a minister_n unto_o who_o i_o hold_v the_o public_a office_n of_o baptise_v to_o appertain_v such_o be_v the_o exceed_a impotency_n of_o this_o profess_a caviller_n mr._n parson_n his_o reckon_a and_o charge_n of_o falsity_n three_o he_o do_v bring_v in_o guileful_o the_o foresay_a testimony_n of_o castro_n 163._o vega_n and_o maldonate_fw-it as_o contrary_a to_o bellarmine_n whereas_o they_o speak_v of_o another_o thing_n to_o wit_n of_o penance_n in_o another_o sense_n the_o review_n and_o discharge_v 21._o castro_n vega_n and_o maldonate_fw-it do_v indeed_o speak_v of_o reprehension_n penance_n and_o absolution_n in_o another_o sense_n than_o bellarmine_n do_v for_o they_o never_o judge_v it_o to_o be_v a_o heresy_n of_o the_o novatian_n to_o deny_v penance_n to_o be_v a_o sacrament_n neither_o be_v there_o ever_o any_o ancient_a father_n or_o romish_a writer_n who_o mast._n parson_n can_v produce_v who_o so_o conceive_v of_o the_o novatian_a heresy_n as_o bellarmine_n have_v do_v who_o rather_o than_o protestant_n shall_v not_o be_v novatian_a heretic_n have_v feign_v a_o new_a heresy_n which_o be_v never_o impute_v to_o the_o novatian_n which_o be_v i_o must_v needs_o say_v a_o craft_n and_o fraud_n intolerable_a 22._o the_o four_o traducement_n have_v be_v answer_v before_o and_o the_o last_o be_v more_o childish_a than_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n which_o be_v the_o allege_v of_o luther_n true_o in_o that_o sense_n which_o i_o have_v already_o justify_v to_o be_v most_o true_a sect_n iii_o the_o three_o charge_n against_o bellarmine_n for_o his_o slander_n against_o caluine_n in_o the_o question_n of_o freewill_n 22_o 64._o the_o manichaeorum_fw-la manichee_n

do_v i_o do_v earnest_o challenge_v he_o herein_o require_v at_o his_o hand_n that_o of_o the_o first_o 60._o mention_v by_o coccius_n within_o the_o first_o 600._o year_n he_o do_v real_o and_o sincere_o 〈◊〉_d 31._o at_o least_o which_o be_v the_o major_a part_n to_o be_v so_o torture_v and_o so_o grant_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o writer_n or_o else_o he_o fail_v whole_o in_o his_o cause_n the_o reveiwe_v 2._o there_o be_v none_o i_o think_v but_o will_v hold_v it_o a_o point_n of_o wisdom_n in_o m._n parson_n to_o set_v i_o rather_o to_o combat_v with_o coccius_n then_o to_o suffer_v i_o to_o encounter_n himself_o by_o manifest_v his_o own_o singular_a falsification_n which_o notwithstanding_o by_o his_o leave_n i_o must_v perform_v before_o we_o end_v our_o reckon_a in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o willing_o yield_v unto_o his_o present_a challenge_n wish_v that_o i_o have_v he_o in_o a_o good_a obligation_n by_o oath_n that_o he_o will_v as_o willing_o accord_v unto_o the_o evidence_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o shall_v be_v reveal_v and_o now_o i_o enter_v the_o list_n that_o the_o testimony_n of_o father_n and_o other_o antiquity_n allege_v by_o 5._o coccius_n for_o defence_n of_o romish_a purgatory_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n either_o out_o of_o book_n false_o father_v and_o unwarrantable_a or_o else_o out_o of_o true_a testimony_n false_o apply_v the_o trial_n of_o both_o which_o depend_v upon_o certain_a general_a observation_n the_o two_o first_o 3._o for_o my_o more_o plain_a and_o expedite_a discharge_n of_o this_o challenge_n i_o shall_v request_v the_o reader_n to_o pass_v along_o with_o i_o in_o review_v some_o confess_a observation_n which_o will_v make_v wrest_v clear_o for_o the_o conviction_n of_o coccius_n whereunto_o the_o particular_a testimony_n must_v have_v a_o necessary_a relation_n which_o may_v be_v thus_o distinguish_v the_o first_o observation_n be_v that_o the_o author_n and_o testimony_n which_o shall_v be_v confess_v to_o be_v either_o forge_v or_o corrupt_v with_o heresy_n or_o else_o apocrypha_fw-la may_v not_o be_v think_v to_o be_v of_o sufficient_a credit_n 4._o the_o second_o observation_n may_v be_v take_v out_o of_o their_o jesuite_n suarez_n where_o he_o say_v that_o veruntamen_fw-la they_o that_o think_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n be_v not_o judge_v in_o death_n nor_o that_o they_o receive_v either_o pain_n or_o reward_n but_o be_v reserve_v in_o secret_a receptacle_n unto_o the_o univer_n salliudgement_n they_o do_v consequent_o acknowledge_v non_fw-la purgarj_n i._n e._n that_o man_n be_v not_o purge_v before_o the_o general_a resurrection_n and_o judgement_n whereupon_o it_o must_v follow_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v purge_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o conflagration_n etc._n etc._n but_o to_o say_v hell_n that_o some_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a be_v not_o purge_v until_o they_o be_v unite_v with_o the_o body_n and_o so_o receive_v pur_fw-mi gation_n in_o the_o fire_n of_o conflagration_n both_o in_o their_o body_n and_o soul_n although_o it_o do_v not_o contradict_v the_o principle_n of_o our_o faith_n yet_o be_v it_o utter_o false_a and_o erroneous_a so_o suarez_n his_o consequence_n be_v plain_a they_o that_o teach_v secret_a receptacle_n of_o soul_n void_a of_o pain_n or_o of_o reward_n until_o the_o day_n of_o the_o general_a resurrection_n do_v deny_v the_o romish_a doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n torment_n before_o the_o last_o day_n but_o diverse_a father_n by_o our_o adversary_n confession_n teach_v such_o kind_n of_o receptacle_n of_o soul_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a as_o namely_o loco_fw-la lactantius_n so_o say_v suarez_n and_o resurrectionem_fw-la senensis_n where_o he_o relate_v the_o sentence_n of_o diverse_a father_n who_o seem_v to_o have_v incline_v to_o the_o same_o opinion_n after_o that_o he_o have_v excuse_v some_o by_o name_n he_o leave_v irenaeus_n justine_n martyr_n tertullian_n clemens_n romanus_n origen_n lactantius_n theodoretus_n theophylact_n oecumenius_n euthymius_n unto_o the_o discretion_n of_o his_o reader_n thus_o far_o to_o excuse_v they_o if_o he_o can_v acquit_v they_o because_o in_o their_o day_n the_o church_n have_v not_o define_v any_o thing_n concern_v that_o article_n which_o be_v by_o suarez_n his_o consequence_n to_o grant_v that_o in_o that_o ancient_a time_n romish_a purgatory_n be_v no_o catholic_a doctrine_n of_o faith_n the_o three_o observation_n be_v concern_v the_o diverse_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n fire_n 5_o we_o be_v furthermore_o necessary_o to_o consider_v the_o confess_v fire_n difference_n of_o the_o word_n fire_n use_v in_o the_o testimony_n of_o father_n as_o first_o by_o fire_n understand_v the_o 18._o holy_a ghost_n which_o purify_v and_o purge_v the_o soul_n from_o sin_n and_o of_o this_o bellarmine_n confess_v that_o it_o purg._n do_v not_o signify_v that_o purgatory_n fire_n which_o be_v now_o controvert_v or_o second_o signify_v the_o quarta_fw-la tribulation_n of_o this_o life_n whereof_o he_o likewise_o confess_v that_o it_o make_v not_o for_o the_o now_o question_v purgatory_n or_o 〈◊〉_d betoken_v the_o severe_a judgement_n of_o god_n even_o after_o death_n by_o only_o try_v and_o examine_v the_o action_n which_o man_n have_v commit_v in_o this_o life_n which_o as_o our_o superest_fw-la adversary_n according_o confess_v do_v not_o concern_v the_o question_n of_o purgatory_n fire_n which_o they_o hold_v to_o be_v not_o only_o a_o intellectual_a fire_n of_o try_v and_o examine_v but_o also_o of_o torment_v and_o purge_v because_o the_o try_v and_o examine_v judgement_n be_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o work_n by_o judge_v they_o unprofitable_a but_o the_o purge_n and_o torment_a fire_n do_v seize_v only_o upon_o the_o worker_n or_o four_o note_v fire_n of_o conflagèration_n in_o the_o day_n of_o doom_n when_o all_o the_o world_n shall_v be_v on_o a_o flame_n which_o as_o bellarmine_n acknowledge_v be_v not_o that_o purgatory_n fire_n which_o he_o in_o the_o name_n of_o their_o church_n undertake_v to_o defend_v because_o as_o some_o think_v all_o metal_n as_o well_o gold_n and_o silver_n as_o wood_n and_o siubble_n that_o be_v as_o well_o the_o godly_a saint_n as_o the_o less_o sanctify_a must_v pass_v through_o the_o fire_n of_o conflagration_n or_o last_o specify_v the_o fire_n of_o hell_n of_o the_o damn_a which_o be_v eternal_a as_o it_o be_v only_o a_o torment_a fire_n but_o not_o purge_v for_o the_o purge_a fire_n say_v est_fw-la bellarmine_n be_v temporal_a and_o not_o eternal_a 6._o if_o then_o coccius_n shall_v be_v find_v to_o abuse_v the_o testimony_n of_o father_n so_o notorious_o as_o to_o mistake_v the_o fire_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o purge_v the_o soul_n by_o sanctification_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o fire_n of_o vexation_n or_o the_o fire_n of_o tribulation_n which_o be_v in_o this_o life_n in_o stead_n of_o fire_n after_o death_n or_o the_o fire_n of_o god_n judgement_n which_o be_v 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the_o damn_a be_v

show_v the_o state_n of_o soul_n in_o exile_n not_o in_o a_o fiery_a furnace_n &_o in_o paenâ_fw-la damni_fw-la and_o not_o sensus_fw-la it_o be_v the_o not_o fruition_n of_o blessedness_n but_o yet_o not_o the_o sense_n of_o torment_n and_o therefore_o concern_v not_o the_o romish_a purgatory_n as_o may_v appear_v by_o the_o 4._o second_o confess_v observation_n 30._o greg._n nazianzen_n be_v the_o four_o of_o this_o rank_n who_o orat._n 10._o in_o laudem_fw-la fratris_fw-la defuncti_fw-la pray_v god_n to_o receive_v the_o soul_n of_o his_o brother_n caesarius_n this_o be_v the_o only_a testimony_n which_o coccius_n produce_v out_o of_o nazianzen_n upon_o this_o kind_n of_o prayer_n by_o m._n parson_n and_o coccius_n his_o conclusion_n we_o be_v to_o believe_v that_o nazianzen_n think_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o that_o caesarius_n may_v then_o have_v be_v in_o purgatory_n torment_n and_o not_o in_o heavenly_a blessedness_n but_o alas_o for_o the_o crookedness_n of_o contentious_a spirit_n for_o 2._o coccius_n himself_o use_v the_o very_a same_o orat._n 10._o of_o nazian_a in_o laudem_fw-la fratris_fw-la caesary_a defuncti_fw-la which_o be_v in_o praise_n of_o his_o brother_n caesarius_n then_o depart_v to_o prove_v a_o quite_o contrary_a conclusion_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a after_o they_o be_v depart_v do_v go_v immediate_o into_o heaven_n albeit_o the_o word_n of_o nazianzen_n be_v in_o manner_n of_o prayer_n thus_o but_o thou_o o_o divine_a and_o sacred_a man_n i_o wish_v thou_o to_o penetrate_v the_o beaven_n and_o to_o rest_v in_o the_o bosom_n of_o abraham_n to_o behold_v the_o qxire_fw-la of_o angel_n and_o the_o glory_n of_o the_o bless_a saint_n etc._n etc._n not_o that_o he_o doubt_v of_o his_o present_a blessedness_n for_o in_o the_o same_o orat_fw-la he_o say_v thus_o credo_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o believe_v that_o every_o generous_a soul_n be_v precious_a in_o god_n sight_n and_o as_o soon_o as_o it_o depart_v out_o of_o the_o body_n go_v present_o unto_o the_o lord_n and_o receive_v blessedness_n even_o as_o he_o do_v in_o his_o next_o oration_n which_o he_o make_v in_o the_o commendation_n of_o his_o sister_n gorgonia_n then_o dead_a equidem_fw-la non_fw-la dubito_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o doubt_v not_o faith_n he_o but_o that_o thou_o now_o enjoy_v the_o choir_n of_o angel_n and_o the_o contemplation_n of_o the_o bless_a trinity_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v the_o so_o undoubted_a doctrine_n of_o nazianzen_n concern_v the_o soul_n of_o all_o the_o godly_a who_o depart_v in_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n that_o nilus_n the_o greek_a bishop_n do_v use_v a_o sentence_n of_o nazianzen_n for_o the_o confutation_n of_o romish_a purgatory_n viz_o nazian_n serm._n de_fw-fr pasch._n speak_v of_o the_o state_n after_o this_o life_n say_v say_v igne_fw-la nilus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o c._n that_o there_o be_v no_o purgation_n 31._o the_o five_o be_v gregory_n nissen_n in_o orat._n quòdnon_n sit_v dolendum_fw-la ob_fw-la eorum_fw-la obitum_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la decesserunt_fw-la and_o li._n de_fw-la animâ_fw-la &_o resurrect_v he_o make_v mention_n of_o purgatory_n fire_n after_o this_o life_n etc._n etc._n this_o witness_n reach_v beyond_o the_o romish_a purgatory_n and_o further_o than_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o will_v allow_v for_o if_o a_o greek_a bishop_n may_v be_v think_v fit_a to_o understand_v what_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o greg._n nissene_n concern_v the_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a then_o let_v we_o listen_v unto_o nilus_n suprà_fw-la who_o tell_v we_o that_o greg._n nissen_n seem_v to_o favour_v that_o opinion_n which_o defend_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v a_o redint_n egration_n which_o sinner_n mean_v the_o damn_a shall_v find_v after_o the_o end_n of_o their_o punishment_n and_o call_v that_o punishment_n a_o purgatory_n furnace_n therefore_o we_o answer_v say_v nilus_n that_o those_o be_v the_o pernicious_a comment_n of_o certain_a 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