if_o his_o citation_n from_o he_o be_v true_a and_o therefore_o find_v this_o to_o pinch_v he_o he_o bring_v it_o up_o again_o p._n 126._o where_n bring_v i_o in_o say_v infant_n be_v under_o no_o law_n he_o answer_v but_o the_o apostle_n say_v the_o contrary_a he_o will_v have_v do_v charitable_o to_o have_v tell_v i_o where_o that_o i_o may_v have_v observe_v it_o what_o he_o say_v in_o this_o as_o well_o as_o the_o former_a page_n in_o answer_n to_o my_o affirmation_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v relate_v to_o death_n and_o that_o it_o be_v understand_v upon_o which_o occasion_n man_n sin_v urge_v absurdity_n by_o the_o like_a application_n of_o christ_n righteousness_n be_v solve_v by_o a_o serious_a observation_n of_o the_o comparison_n as_o state_v by_o i_o betwixt_o christ_n and_o adam_n his_o argue_v from_o child_n die_a do_v not_o conclude_v until_o he_o prove_v death_n simple_o consider_v necessary_o to_o infer_v guilt_n in_o the_o party_n die_v of_o which_o i_o 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injurious_a to_o god_n because_o it_o make_v he_o delight_v in_o the_o death_n of_o a_o sinner_n contrary_a to_o ezech._n 33_o 11._o 1_o tim._n 2_o 3._o 2_o pet._n 3_o 9_o he_o say_v nothing_o direct_o but_o will_v be_v retort_v that_o if_o i_o prove_v any_o thing_n from_o this_o than_o i_o must_v say_v that_o god_n do_v absolute_o decree_v that_o all_o man_n shall_v be_v save_v but_o i_o deny_v this_o consequence_n albeit_o it_o be_v injurious_a to_o god_n to_o say_v he_o decree_v that_o which_o he_o declare_v to_o take_v no_o delight_n in_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v injurious_a to_o he_o to_o say_v he_o permit_v what_o he_o delight_v not_o in_o for_o on_o all_o hand_n it_o be_v confess_v he_o permit_v sin_n and_o yet_o on_o no_o hand_n that_o he_o delight_v in_o sin_n so_o that_o this_o injuriousness_n of_o their_o doctrine_n to_o god_n be_v no_o way_n remove_v by_o he_o albeit_o he_o will_v fain_o be_v mince_v and_o cover_v it_o say_v they_o do_v not_o say_v that_o god_n purpose_n to_o punish_v any_o not_o for_o their_o sin_n but_o mere_o to_o satisfy_v his_o own_o pleasur_n but_o such_o silly_a shift_n must_v only_o satisfy_v blind_a man_n do_v not_o they_o say_v god_n purpose_v to_o damn_v many_o to_o eternal_a torment_n and_o that_o sin_n be_v no_o way_n the_o cause_n of_o this_o purpose_n and_o will_v he_o say_v to_o be_v eternal_o torment_v be_v no_o punishment_n and_o be_v not_o this_o a_o purpose_n to_o punish_v man_n and_o not_o for_o their_o sin_n his_o allege_v in_o this_o page_n that_o this_o be_v not_o injurious_a to_o christ_n mediation_n be_v upon_o the_o supposition_n that_o christ_n die_v not_o for_o all_o which_o come_v after_o to_o be_v examine_v ¶_o 4._o pag._n 152._o n._n 22._o he_o come_v to_o prove_v their_o doctrine_n make_v not_o the_o gospel_n a_o mere_a mock_n as_o i_o show_v it_o do_v by_o propose_v the_o offer_n of_o salvation_n to_o many_o who_o yet_o by_o a_o irrevocable_a decree_n be_v exclude_v from_o receive_v 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but_o remove_v of_o the_o filth_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o guilt_n be_v the_o act_n of_o god_n mercy_n and_o grace_n as_o say_v the_o apostle_n tit._n 3_o 5_o 6._o and_o yet_o we_o be_v save_v and_o consequent_o justify_v according_a to_o his_o mercy_n by_o the_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n since_o this_o be_v the_o fruit_n of_o the_o grace_n and_o spirit_n of_o god_n free_o give_v we_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o for_o he_o pag._n 302._o to_o affirm_v that_o i_o pervert_v the_o apostle_n word_n 2_o cor._n 5_o 19_o 20._o god_n be_v in_o christ_n reconcile_n the_o world_n unto_o himself_o upon_o this_o bare_a supposition_n that_o this_o world_n be_v only_a understand_v of_o the_o elect_a for_o if_o this_o reconciliation_n have_v be_v absolute_a and_o not_o in_o part_n only_o that_o be_v a_o readiness_n on_o god_n part_n to_o be_v reconcile_v with_o they_o if_o they_o repent_v which_o i_o affirm_v to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v the_o apostle_n as_o a_o ambassador_n 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at_o least_o as_o real_o justify_v before_o they_o believe_v as_o after_o since_o faith_n be_v a_o act_n of_o man_n will_n and_o no_o such_o thing_n according_a to_o he_o can_v have_v place_n in_o justification_n and_o yet_o to_o go_v round_o he_o say_v p._n 308._o that_o they_o say_v not_o that_o god_n justify_v any_o remain_v in_o their_o sin_n but_o do_v they_o not_o say_v so_o since_o take_v his_o opinion_n the_o safe_a way_n and_o further_a from_o antinomian_o he_o conclude_v a_o man_n justify_v in_o the_o act_n of_o conversion_n and_o such_o he_o suppose_v to_o have_v be_v great_a sinner_n yea_o and_o that_o they_o may_v not_o be_v purge_v from_o they_o many_o year_n after_o yea_o and_o how_o can_v they_o if_o they_o must_v sin_v daily_o as_o they_o say_v in_o thought_n word_n and_o deed_n of_o which_o more_o hereafter_o be_v not_o such_o then_o remain_v in_o their_o sin_n according_a to_o they_o justify_v pag._n 306._o n._n 16._o he_o will_v infer_v a_o contradiction_n upon_o i_o from_o say_v good_a work_n be_v necessary_a as_o causa_fw-la sino_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la for_o this_o he_o say_v contradict_v my_o say_n we_o be_v justify_v by_o the_o inward_a birth_n and_o not_o by_o our_o work_n see_v work_n be_v but_o the_o consequence_n of_o that_o birth_n be_v but_o the_o effect_n even_o a_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la must_v be_v before_o the_o effect_n on_o which_o he_o also_o insist_o p._n 319._o n._n 38._o but_o this_o contradiction_n be_v found_v upon_o the_o supposition_n that_o this_o birth_n be_v bring_v forth_o without_o good_a work_n which_o i_o deny_v see_v regeneration_n be_v a_o work_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o we_o by_o which_o we_o be_v justify_v that_o be_v real_o make_v just_a and_o the_o work_n which_o proceed_v therefrom_o be_v but_o a_o consequence_n of_o it_o and_o now_o as_o to_o his_o proof_n and_o also_o his_o examine_n of_o i_o they_o be_v insert_v pag._n 204._o n._n 13._o where_o he_o say_v that_o the_o redemption_n 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