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sin_n	distinction_n	mortal_a	venial_a	4,934	5	12.1153	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A66373	A brief discourse concerning the lawfulness of worshipping God by the common-prayer being an answer to a book entituled A brief discourse concerning the unlawfulness of the common-prayer worship lately printed in New-England, and re-printed in London, in which the chief things objected against the liturgy, are consider'd.	Williams, John, 1636?-1709.	1694 (1694)	Wing W2683; ESTC R203	34,319	42

refusing Communion for them that the Old Nonconformists ordinarily and constantly used the Common-Prayer-Book in their publick Ministrations as Mr. Ball one of them declares Tryal p. 121 155. 4. All of them testified against the Brownists and against a separation from the Church It was saith Mr. Baxter the Parish-Churches that had the Liturgy which Mr. Jacob the Father of the Congregational Party wrote for communion with The same I may say of Mr. Bradshaw Dr. Ames and other Nonconformists whom the Congregational Brethren think more favourable to their way In the close our Author offers some farther Objections from the false and corrupt Doctrine he pretends to find in the Liturgy 1. As that it 's certain by God's word that Children Baptized dying before they commit actual sin are undoubtedly saved This saith he savours of Pelagianism Ans I don't understand the falseness or Pelagianism of it It 's certain by God's Word that of such is the Kingdom of God and so they must be capable of it If capable of it it must be upon Gospel terms but what terms they are capable of but Baptism I understand not 2. That there are two Sacraments necessary to Salvation which implies a double Error viz. that the Sacraments are necessary to Salvation and that there are more Sacraments of the New-Testament than two Ans I don't see wherein is the first Error if he had truly represented it for it 's said in the Catechism two Sacraments generally necessary that is that they are a Duty belonging to all persons that are capable of it where there are persons to baptize and a Congregation to communicate with and therefore it 's not said absolutely but generally necessary As for the latter a Sacrament is not a Scripture-word but a Term of Art and so hath been variously used and applied and therefore to set out what it means the Church has defined what a Sacrament is and then shew'd there are but two and so this Phrase is used to distinguish it from any other so called and that then none but these two are generally necessary to all Christians 3. The Book saith Some Sins are deadly as if the Popish distinction of sins into Mortal and Venial were a sound distinction Ans How can that be when Fornication which is called deadly in the Liturgy in the Church of Rome is ordinarily accounted a Venial Sin and when the distinction between Mortal and Venial as used in the Church of Rome is so contrary to the Doctrine of the Church of England It 's plain that our Church means thereby no other than heinous 4. It 's said Christ has redeemed all mankind Ans The Scripture saith God will have all men to be saved and that Christ died for all c. 2. He argues farther That A stinted Liturgy is opposite to the Spirit of Prayer Eph. 6. 18. Ans 1. If so then the Spirit will not communicate it self in a Liturgy or stinted Form of Prayer contrary to the sense of all sober Divines So Dr. Owen Supposing saith he those who make use of and plead for Forms of Prayer especially in publick do in a due manner prepare themselves for it by holy meditation c. I do not judge that there is any such evil in them as that God will not communicate his Spirit to any in the use of them 2. If so then almost all Churches in the world for these 1300 years at least to this day as Mr. Baxter allows have been without the Spirit of Prayer 3. If so then we cannot lawfully communicate in or with a stinted Liturgy which has yet been approved by all Reformed Churches as Mr. Ball saith and Mr. Norton saith it's lawful to embrace Communion with Churches where such Forms in Publick worship are in use 4. As for Eph. 6. 18. that we are to pray with all Prayer why is that not possible by a Liturgy when there are in it Supplications Prayers and giving of thanks 3. He le ts pass the Argument from the mischief of a prescript Liturgy and so will I pass what follows from the trivial unintelligible and dirty Reflections of it For he knows we can match his Fidler with Stories of some of those that have been Eminent the other way and could argue upon the sinfulness of unpremeditated and conceived Prayer 3. He saith Mr. Cotton speaketh weightily in saying It 's unlawful to bring ordinarily any other Book into the Publick Worship of God besides the Book of God A. I know no difference between Reading and Reciting in this case and I have heard Mr. Cotton used a Form of Prayer in the Pulpit If he did not yet all the Nonconformists in former times did as far as ever I could learn To close all he undertakes to Answer an Objection That Good men were the first Collectors and Publishers of the Liturgy and died Martyrs This he endeavours to answer and yet when it 's to serve his own Cause it 's a considerable Argument Thus saith he before The Corruptions of the Liturgy have been born witness against by good Men and his Father a Holy Man suffered much for his Nonconformity and what not Now surely if this sort of arguing is good for them it 's good for us But he Replies further 1. All Persons employed in it were not good Men as Day Bishop of Chichester He was a dissembling Hypocrite pretending to be a Protestant but afterwards shew'd himself to be a Papist A. Here he betrays gross ignorance or somewhat worse For tho Day was one of the 18 Bishops imployed for compiling the Service-Book at first Anno 1548. yet at that time he was for Transubstantiation and Solitary Masses and against having the Service in the Vulgar Tongue And when the next Review was which was 1550. when Cranmer wrote to Bucer about it it does not appear that Day was concerned nay rather that he was against it for he refused to set his hand to the Book before it was enacted by a Law and was afterward turn'd out of his Bishoprick and depriv'd But to say all in a word What was this dissembling Hypocrite to those who were truly Pious Men and acted faithfully according to the Light they had as our Author acknowledgeth 2. He saith Good men chang'd their minds so did Ridley and Cranmer A. Both gross mistakes For Archbishop Cranmer took upon him to defend the Common-Prayer Ministration of the Sacraments and other Rites and Ceremonies when in Prison And Bishop Ridley a little before his Martyrdom in a Letter to his Friend saith This Church had of late the whole Divine Service all Common and Publick Prayers framed to the true vein of Holy Scripture And again after his condemnation writing an Answer to Grindal concerning Knox's peremptory Exceptions against the Service-Book I grant saith he a Man as he is of Wit and Learning may find apparent reasons yet I suppose he cannot soundly by the Word of God so