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A40651 The appeal of iniured innocence, unto the religious learned and ingenuous reader in a controversie betwixt the animadvertor, Dr. Peter Heylyn, and the author, Thomas Fuller. Fuller, Thomas, 1608-1661. 1659 (1659) Wing F2410; ESTC R5599 346,355 306

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Ghostly Father cannot give or enjoyn any penance at all 11. That it is sufficient for a Man or Woman to make their confession to God alone 12. That it is as lawfull at all times to confesse to a Lay-man as to a Priest 13. That it is sufficient that the sinner doe say I know my self a sinner 14. That Bishops Ordinaries and Eccelesiastical Iudges have no Authority to give any sentence of Excommunication or censure ne yet to absolve or loose any man from the same 15. That it is not necessary or profitable to have any Church or Chappel to pray in or to doe any divine service in 16. That buryings in Churches and Church-yards be unprofitable and vain 17. That the rich and costly Ornaments in the Church are rather high displeasure than pleasure or honour to God 18. That our Lady was no better than another Woman and like a bag of Pepper or Saffron when the spice is out 19. That Prayers Suffrages Fasting or Alms-deeds doe not help to take away sin 20. That Holy-dayes ordained and instituted by the Church are not to be observed and kept in reverence in as much as all dayes and times be alike 21. That Plowing and Carting and such servile work may be done in the same without any offence at all as on other dayes 22. That it is sufficient and enough to beleeve though a man doe no good works at all 23. That seeing Christ hath shed his blood for us and Redeemed us we need not to doe any thing at all but to believe and repent if we have offended 24. That no humane Constitutions or Laws do binde any Christian man but such as be in the Go●pels Pauls Epistles or the New Testament and that a man may break them without any offence at all 25. That the singing or saying of Mass Mattens or Even song is but a roring howling whistling mumming tom●ing and jugling and the playing on the Organs a foolish vanity This is our Authors golden Oare out of which his new Protestant Religion was to be extracted So happily refin'd that there is nothing of the Old Christian Religion to be found therein Which though our Author doth defend as Expressions rather than Opinions the Careers of the Soul and Extravagancies of humane infirmity as he doth the rest yet he that looks upon these points and sees not in them the rude draught and lineaments of the Puritan Plat-form which they have been hammering since the time of Cartwright and his Associates must either have better eyes than mine or no eyes at all I see our Author looks for thanks for this discovery for publishing the paper which contain'd these new Protestant truths and I give him mine Fuller I have many things to return in this Contest First had I garbled the Opinions of my own Head and not presented them to the Reader as I found them presented in the Records of the Convocation then the Animadvertor had had just advantage against me Secondly He taketh exception at me in his Introduction for not giving in the Degrees by which Heterodoxies in Religion were ejected and cast out Yet not he is offended at me because I goe about to doe it shewing how bad Religion was before the Reformation even in the best Professors thereof Thirdly It is more than probable that these Opinions presented by such as were disaffected to the Reformation were not over favourably stated but rather worded to the disadvantage Fourthly Some of these Opinions thus condemned by the Animadvertor are ●ound in themselves I instance in that which in this his List is the eleventh in number viz That it is sufficient for a man or woman to make confession to God alone This at this day is defended by the Protestan● Church which though commending Confession as expedient in some cases especially when the afflicted Conscience cannot otherwi●e get any ea●e yet doth it not command it on any as necessary necessitate precepti so that the omission thereof should amount to a sin I am confident that the Animadvertor himself never solemnly confessed his sins to any but to God alo●e And it is injurious in him to demand of another to doe that which was never done by himself Lastly How unjust were it to put all Ieremies bud figs by themselves and thence to conclude all the rest which indeed were very good to be like unto them Such the dealing of the Animadvertor herein who hath called out the very Refuse and Dross of the Dross in these Opinions and left out the rest then maintained by Gods People in opposition to the Errors and Superstition of that Age some whereof are here inserted 1. They deny Extreme Unction to be any Sacrament 2. That all those are Antichrists who deny the Laity the Sacrament under both kindes 3. That it is plain Idolatry to set up any Lights before any Images or in any place of the Church in time of Divine Service as long as the Sun giveth light 4. That Au●icular Confession is invented to know the secrets of mens hearts and to pull money out of their purse 5. That Sain●s are not to be invocated and that they understand not nor know nothing of our Petitions nor can be Mediators or Intercessors betwixt us and God 6. That Diriges Mass●s c. done for the Souls of those which are departed out of this World are bu● vain and of no profit 7. That Souls departed goe strait to Heaven others to Hell 8. That there is no mean place betwixt Heaven and Hell where Souls departed may be aff●cted 9. That there is no distinction of Sin to be Venial and Mortal 10. That hallowed Water Bread Candles Ashes Palmes are of none effect and are onely used to seduce people The rest I refer to my Church-History Had that all been like these I would have called them the Gold but because of many Errors mixed amongst them I resume my Metaphor and term them the Golden Oare out of which the Reformed Christian Religion was extracted And let the Author and Reader joyn in their thanks to Gods Goodnesse by whose blessing on the pious endeavors of the Reformers th● bad Figs I mean those false indiscreet scandalous and dangerous Doctrines are cashired and condemned and the good ones understand me the Positions which were pious and orthodox retained defended and practised at this day in the Church of England Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 239. At this time also were the Stews suppressed by the Kings command And I could wish that some command had been laid upon our Author by the Parliament to suppresse them also and not to have given them any place in the present History especially not to have produc'd those arguments by which some shamelesse persons endeavoured to maintain both the conveniency and necessity of such common Brothel-houses Had Bishop Iewel been alive and seen but half so much from Dr. Harding pleading in behalf of the common women permitted by the Pope in Rome he would