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A16690 Detection of Ed. Glouers hereticall confection lately contriued and proffered to the Church of England, vnder the name of A present preseruatiue. VVherein with the laying open of his impudent slander against our whole ministrie, the reader shal find a new built nest of old hatcht heresies discouered, (and by the grace of God) ouerthrowne: togither with an admonistion to the followers of Glouer and Browne. By Steph. Bredwell, student in phisicke. Seene and allowed. Bredwell, Stephen. 1586 (1586) STC 3598; ESTC S114175 80,218 141

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vpon his first begetting by the spirit the Apostles themselues are a president who whilest our Sauiour walked with them fell sundry times not only in vnséemely behauiour worthie rebuke as wée in extenuating will speake but also some into foule ambition Peter into grosse deniall of his maister Christ And if we follow them further in their perfect state when they had had the excéeding measure of the spirit poured vpon them we shall find Peter a chief Apostle to haue committed such a sin in Antioch as for which our Sauiour had pronounced that it should be better for a man that a milstone were hāged about his neck and he throwne into the midst of the sea then to commit it What Paul hath confessed of himselfe many places haue béen shewed Iames saith to quench the ambitious controlling of some opinionatiue brethren In many things we sin all And Iohn confesseth vs all himselfe yet sinners when he saith If any man sin wee haue an aduocate with the Father euen Iesus Christ the righteous Yea these words of Iames Iohn freely acknowledging a subiection to sin without any restraint or limitation of time for y ● ceassing therof in this life doo at one lash cut off all y e interest of the regenerate mans full power dominiō in this life And besides when we consider our daily prayer which Christ our carefull teacher left all his saints to say what shall wée think of that wée are therein commanded euerie day to aske for giuenes of our sinnes If wée be regenerate so as we sin no more what néede we If to stop vp this breach for E. G. any of his disciples haue a liking to bring in his popish distinction of veniall and mortal sinnes let them not spare I could here bring it in to make them blush if it were possible for I haue it written by his owne hand as I am persuaded mentioning the conference betwéene M. Whitaker and him but for that I know of what spirit they are and am loth to loose labour vpō written papers I will not now stand vpon it Thus first wee finde that the regenerate person by no warrantable right in himselfe can take this title vpon him But because some men looke not vpon the right and worthines of a Prince so hée haue the place by the forcible decrée of some mightie monarch that hath power to establish him let vs examine in like maner whether this kingly cōdition of the regenerate man be by the will and appointment of the eternall God or no for by the places I finde quoted some such thing se'emeth to haue béen by E. G pretended and especially his confident spéech declareth it where hee saith This being proued authorised by the word of God c. For the former part that The regenerate man is able to doo what God commandeth though flesh and blood striue neuer so much against him hee coateth thrée places The first is in the 2. Cor. 3. 5. in these words Not that we are fit of our selues to thinke anie thing as of our selues but that we are fit it is of God This text teacheth vs plainly that we are in no wise to ascribe any thing to our selues no not in those works wherin our labor hath chiefest successe for asmuch as there is not the least thought of good that riseth in vs that may in any truth be referred to our selues as the fountaine but to God only Wherehence we drawe these lessons to carry with vs First that no man by nature hath anie thing in him toward the seruice of God Secondly That wee must seeke to him for fitnes in euerie particuler seruice and dutie and return the praise of the successe therof to him alone These things by the grace of God we sée and learne in this text Only how the regenerate should herehence be warranted to haue full strength to kéepe the law this wee shall neuer sée so long as there is one hereticke vpon the face of the earth His second place is Ephes 3. 16. where the Apostle prayeth for the Ephesians That God would giue them euen for his rich glory sake to be mightely strengthened by his spirit in their inner man The effect of the petition is this that there might be a continuing growth of their inward man enlargement of their knowledge in Christ they euery way fulfilled euen to the high measure that God hath appointed This place therefore giueth vs this lesson for our instructiō verie profitably To wit That no regenerate man ought to staie in anie measure of his gifts but to labour and looke continually for the encrease of them Which is so far of from enstalling the regenerate man in any kingdom of absolute power as that with one hand it disrobeth him of all perfection and with the other casteth his glorious crowne of frée-will to the ground For if encrease must bee sought for continually then is there no perfection in this life And if no perfection where is that sufficiencie to doo the commandements Miserable is that case when a man ministreth a sword to cut his own throat withall His third place is Phil. 2. 13. For it is God that woorketh in you both to will and to do according to his franke beneuolence These words preuented a certaine secret obiection or scruple which might be in the mindes of the Philippians vpon the vehemency of the exhortation which Paul made vnto them concerning the accomplishing of their saluation in the 12. verse For that they might not slothfully lye down vnder the burthen as men out of hope and heart to go through with so great an enterprise he putteth them in mind that they haue it from the Lord both to will and also to be able to performe Whereby they had to obserue these two points First that they had not the rightnes of their will of themselues but from y ● Lord. Secōdly that he was also disposed to giue them abilitie if they sought it Which doctrine necessarily vrgeth this vse therof first humilitie and reuerence in all our behauiour Secondly carefull diligence in continuall séeking of the Lord by praier in euerie thing wee néed he hauing verie well confirmed this last vnto them by his own practise and example in the first Chapter Where he had with feruent affection praied the Lord to giue them more and more abundance of knowledge and iudgement and still to clear the whole course of their life vntill the verie day of Christ Now to cōclude thus from the text The regenerate hath full power to keep the commandements because the Lord dooth giue them both to wil and to doo is not to deale truly with the word of trueth but sophistically to adulterate the same vnto the perill of soules If that be sound reasoning I may in like maner conclude thus Whosoeuer honoreth his father and mother shal liue long in this life because God hath
of patience and loue endured all your former dealings Goe too then what gaines hath your departure brought vnto you I meane what sincere holines What profound iudgement What spirituall peace rest vnto your soules I confesse E. G. talketh of more holinesse then we dare professe but the questiō is whether he practised so much so much I say either as his writings require or as we by the grace of God in these our liues attame vnto You know he writeth that those that haue put on Christ haue strength and power to abstaine from sinne and keepe the commandements and that a man is not yet iustified but condemned all the while he is subiect to sinne against his will Now what case was he in by his owne rule that ●inned wittingly when hee wrote his booke For vnto him so exercised in reading the word as he would seeme this place could not be but as common as his name Admit no accusation against an elder without two or three witnesses Judge ye now whether he was grosly ouertaken with the transgression of this canon who hath accused not one but all the elders of our Church for poisoners of soules and horrible blasphemers of God without offering one testimonie or producing one witnesse for that he saith And albeit we be such as acknowledge gladly our liues to bee hid with Christ in God yet we doubt not let the glorie be the Lordes but in dayly mortification of our members and striuing after the way of life to be set in tryall against the proudest iusticiarie in the world though we hang downe our heades before God and are euen nothing Yea I trust beloued I may speake it without all iust suspition of vaine boasting that there be amongst vs that haue attained further in Christ then the abstaining from such grosse sins as this and haue testimonies farre aboue the report of your leaders life though they dare not neither may professe so farre as he But Sathan prepared him an easie entrance into this presumption when he perswaded him that the first motions were no sinne and that the lesser sins were veniall A trewantly scholler may compare with a better then himselfe in soone learning out his booke if he may haue liberty to teare out so many leaues as he listeth This is also the case of the papists As for exact knowledge or déepe iudgement if you suppose your selues to haue attained anie since you went from vs. O looke backe againe I beséech you it may be if you looke earnestly you shall now perceiue it otherwise I am sure beloued you hate the house of bondage and detest the rules of the Egyptian worship which some of you perhaps haue knowne some haue heard your fathers report off Thinke you then the dealing of E. G. towardes you to be tollerable that nousleth you againe in the lawes of Egypt and giueth you to drinke that I know of partly by his publike partly by his priuate writings sixe of the chiefest ingredients of that cup of the mother of fornications Marke them now againe and consider them better 1. That the first motions are no sinne 2. That there are sins of their own nature veniall 3. That there is to the regenerate no assurance of our saluation 4. That the regenerate haue full free will and power to keepe the commandements 5. That Gods predestination standeth not eternallie firme and vnchangeable without all regard of workes 6. That wee are not iustified by faith alone but by faith and workes To these being maine groundes of poperie he addeth of his owne 1. That the ten commandements are abrogated 2. That loue is come in place of them Now what loue he meant that should be distinct from the loue required in the commandements I commit it here againe vnto your selues to chew vpon But to come vnto the man that first led you out into the wide field of errour Are you made wiser by him according to y e wisedom of God Let not affection beguile you but iudge with righteous iudgement and me séemeth this may be a rule sufficient for the present to trye your case by Questionlesse if your knowledge haue proceeded on vnto better then y e things you haue learned since your departing tend not to the ouerthrow of any trueth you had receiued before but to the enlarging and fuller garnishing of the same otherwise you must néedes confesse your gaines to be losse and all your winninges your spoile Now this sure you had learned as by all meanes to seeke the gayning of your brother that hath sinned so likewise fréely simply to forgiue him those quarrels and offences you haue to laye against him in like maner as God in Christ hath forgiuen you But your teather since that hath taken you out a contrarie lesson if you marke it well namely That you must neuer forgiue your brother hauing offended you except he first repent thereof seeke reconciliation Consider now whether this hold anie proportion with the Lordes mercifull dealing towardes you Did he withhold your pardon till you repented Or did he not rather giue it you whilest you were his enimies How in the meane time if your brother persist a space obstinate can you pray Forgiue vs our trespasses as we forgiue c. Secondlie you knew this Canon Let all thinges be done comely and in order Suppose you to keepe it and embrace his doctrine also who saith Anie one of a Church may excommunicate if the rest will not ioyne with him Consider of what consequence that may bee séeing diuers men iudge diuersly one man in a multitude manie times estéemeth of a thing contrarie to all the rest and that falsly too Thirdlye marke this assertion One default of a congregation in separating the vnwoorthie may disanull it for beeing a Church Can there be a readier knife to deuide all the Churches in the world withall But you know it is false as is manifestly proued by the example of the Church of Corinth who though they had not separated the incestuous person yet Paul euen then acknowledged them for a Church of God sanctified ones in Christ Jesu If he say this was only a negligence in the Corinthians which they afterward amended hée shall helpe his cause nothing thereby for in the place I haue quoted hee maketh negligence of force sufficient to disanull a Church Wherfore either Paul was to bee blamed that called y e Corinthians in this case a Church of God or els he was a daungerous Scismaticke that taught this point of doctrine cōtrarie to him 4. Wheras he holdeth that this outward discipline is the couenant betwéen God and vs if you mark the print of his foote well you shall sée that he went not right forward here as you beléeued but was haled backward into the denne of Poperie For not by works but by faith is the couenant kept on our part I