thus Isti significati sunt ad Timotheum c. These of whome the Apostle speaketh are signified in another place to Timoth. 2.2.19 The foundation of God remaineth sure the Lorde knoweth who are his Ergo this assurance and confidence is common though not in the like measure to all faithfull Christians Augustine also saith Quia non secundum merita nostra sed illius misericordiam firma est promissio nemo debet cum trepidatione praedicare vnde non potest dubitare Because the promise remaineth stedfast not by our workes but his mercie we must not with trembling and fearefulnes pronounce that whereof wee cannot doubt No maruaile then if Papists doubt of their saluation because their confidence is built vpon their workes but if they would with the faithfull of God renounce their owne workes and be content to submit themselues to the faith of Christ they would not thinke it so strange a thing for Christians to haue a full and stedfast perswasion of their saluation THE SECOND PART OF THE BENEFIT of our vocation to the which belongeth the knowledge of sinne and the lawe THE FIRST QVESTION of sinne THe partes of this question are these first of originall sinne secondly of the difference of sinnes thirdly of veniall sinnes fourthly whether all sinnes be remissible fiftly whether God bee the author of sinne sixtly whether the workes of the not regenerate are sinne THE FIRST PART OF originall sinne The Papists error 59 COncupiscence which wee also call originall sinne remaining after Baptisme is not properly a sinne nor forbidden by commaundement till it raigne in vs and wee obey the desires thereof it is called sinne because it is the matter effect and occasion of sinne Rhemist Rom. 6. sect 6. Concil Trident. sess 5. Argum. Iam. 1.15 Concupiscence when it hath conceiued bringeth forth sinne Ergo it is not sinne of it selfe but when the consent of will commeth sinne is engendred Rhemist The Protestants Ans. THe argument followeth not concupiscence bringeth forth sinne Ergo it is no sinne nay it shall the rather bee sinne as one serpent bringeth forth another so both the mother and daughter are sinne for euill fruites doe shew an euill tree Argum. Saint Paul saith that concupiscence is flatly forbidden by the law which saith Thou shalt not lust Rom. 7.7 And vers 17. He calleth it sinne dwelling in vs though it doe not reigne in vs Ergo it is properly sinne Augustine saith Omnium malorum reatu caret qui baptizatur non omnibus malis He that is baptized is cleared from the guilt of all euils or sinnes but not from the euils themselues Dimittuntur in Baptismo omnia peccata originaliter tracta ignoranter vel scienter adiecta All sinnes are forgiuen in Baptisme both originall and committed ignorantly or wittingly Therefore originall sinne is no otherwaies taken away in Baptisme then other sinnes are but the guilt onely of other sinnes is remitted in Baptisme the blot or staine remaineth still Ergo originall sinne ceaseth in respect of the guilt for neither it nor any other sinnes shall be imputed vnto those which are iustified in Christ But it is a sinne still as the rest are Augustine also dare call it a sinne Concupiscentia peior est ignorantia Concupiscence is worse then ignorance And in another place Ignorantia in ijs qui intelligere noluerunt peccatum est in ijs qui non potuerunt poena peccati But ignorance is in them which are able to learne sinne in those that cannot a punishment of sinne If ignorance be sinne concupiscence worse then ignorance is much more THE SECOND PART OF THE difference of sinnes The Papists SOme sinnes are deadly or mortall because all that doe them are worthie of error 60 damnation others bee veniall that is to say pardonable of their owne nature Rhemist Rom. 1.11 Argum. Sinne when it is finished bringeth foorth death Iam. 1.15 Ergo not all sinne but that which is consummate and perfited is mortall Rhemist ibid. The Protestants Ans. OVt of this place it is gathered that there are degrees of sinne and that the more heynous sinne is worthie of more grieuous death and condemnation but that concupiscence or other lesse sinnes deserue not death it is not hence proued seeing the Scripture saith That the wages of all sinne is death Rom. 6.23 Argum. That no sinne is veniall or pardonable of it owne nature but that the least deserueth death if God should deale with vs according to the exact rule of his iustice it thus appeareth First if all sinnes are not mortall Christ died not for all sinnes for he by his death did satisfie onely for sinnes that deserued death but Christ died for all sinnes Iohn 1.19 Secondly all transgression of Gods lawe is sinne and deserueth the curse of God Galath 3.10 But all sinne is the transgression of the lawe 1. Iohn 3.4 Augustine and other of the fathers doe vse this terme of veniall sinnes but not in their sense as though any sinne in it owne nature deserued pardon but by veniall sinnes they vnderstand the lesser and smaller faultes which are more easilie forgiuen at Gods hand then the greater Sunt venialiae peccata there are certaine veniall sinnes without the which a man cannot liue saith Augustine Propter omnia peccata baptismus inuentus est propter leuia oratio dominica For all sinnes Baptisme is a remedy and the Lords praier for the lesse De symbolo lib. 1.6 By veniall sinnes he vnderstandeth the smaller sinnes which are not pardonable in their owne nature for then it were not necessarie to aske forgiuenes for them in the Lords praier they would vanish away of themselues Wherefore wee cannot receiue this popish distinction of veniall and mortall sinnes as they vnderstand it as the Scripture vseth to speake wee doe not greatly mislike them that is by grace and mercie in Christ all sinnes euen the greatest are not onely pardonable but pardoned vnto vs Isay 1.18 But vnto the wicked and impenitent euery sinne is mortall they shall euen by their idle words be condemned Matth. 12.36.37 THE THIRD PART OF THOSE which they call veniall sinnes The Papists error 61 1. SInne is voluntarie otherwise it is no sinne and therefore the passions that are in men hauing not the consent of wil are farre from sinne and are not imputed to any man neither for them neede hee say vnto God Forgiue vs our sinnes Rhemist Rom. 7. sec. 8.9 The Protestants SInnes done without consent of the inward man are neuer imputed but this must be vnderstoode onely of the regenerate in whome there is a new man borne of the spirite Argum. That inuoluntarie lustes which arise in the heart not hauing the consent of will are in their nature sinne it is euident by Saint Pauls words Rom. 7.20 If I doe that I would not then is it not I any longer that doe it but sinne that dwelleth in mee he calleth it sinne though he consent not vnto it
and rooted out Et tolli omne illud quod veram habet propriam rationem peccati And all that wholly to be taken away which hath the nature and qualitie of sinne Concil Trident sess 5. For the concupiscence or originall sinne remaining after Baptisme is now no more to bee called sinne In infants then newly baptized there is neither mortall nor veniall sinne Rhemist 1. Iohn 1. sect 5. Argum. The Scripture saith Beholde the lambe of God that taketh away the sinnes of the world Ioh 1.29 Christ doth sanctifie and cleanse his Church by the washing of water through the word Ergo by remission sinnes cleane taken away Rhemist Rom. 4. sect 7. Ans. First if sinne in baptisme were wholly remoued not onely the guilt but the very staine and blot of sinne how commeth it to passe that many which are baptized doe fall afterward into deadly sinnes yea there is no man that liueth without sinne If sinne once haue been vtterly expelled and banished out of the flesh how commeth it in againe if their iustification haue once clearely rid them from sinne how can they be subiect to it againe for the grace of iustification being once obtained can neuer bee lost the giftes of God are without repentance Rom. 11.29 2. The Scripture is true that Christ by his blood cleanseth washeth taketh away our sinnes not by actually purging vs from all corruption but in freely acquiting and discharging of vs before God both of the guilt and punishment of sinne so the Scripture saith Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiuen and to whom the Lord imputeth no sinne Rom. 4.7.8 Our sinnes therefore may be truely forgiuen though some corruption of sinne doe still remaine in vs. The Protestants THere are three things to bee considered in sinne First the staine or blot corruption or remnant of sinne in vs. Secondly the guilt fault and offence of sinne Thirdly the punishment and stipend due vnto it By our spiritual washing in the blood of Christ whereof Baptisme is a seale both the guilt and punishment of our sinnes are not onely hid and couered in Gods sight as our aduersaries doe falsely charge vs to say but they are truely forgiuen vs for Christs sake and shall neuer be remembred any more But yet there is left in vs some remnant of sinne so long as we liue in this flesh which in the end together with the corruption and mortalitie of the bodie shall bee cleane taken away Argum. 1. If wee say wee haue no sinne wee deceiue our selues and the truth is not in vs 1. Iohn 1.8 Ergo there are none liuing at any time voyde of sinne no not in their Baptisme Saint Paul also exhorteth to bee renewed in minde and to put on the new man and put off the old Ephes. 4.23 Ergo there remaineth some sinne and corruption after Baptisme what neede else this renewing of the minde and putting on the new man afterward Argum. 2. Originall sinne is not taken away in Baptisme therefore some sinne remayneth still And that this originall corruption is properly called sinne and is sin indeede S. Paul sheweth euidently Rom. 7. ver 7 8. where he nameth lust and concupiscence sinne Augustine thus writeth Meminisse debemus peccatorum omnium plenam remissionem fieri in Baptismo hominis verò qualitatem non totam continuò mutari We must remember that all our sinnes are fully remitted in Baptisme but the quality of man that is the corruption and staine or blot of sinne is not wholly chaunged THE SECOND PART WHETHER BAPtisme serue onely for remission of sinnes past not for the sinnes also to come The Papists error 108 CHristes death applyed to man by Baptisme wypeth away al sinnes past for new sinnes other remedies be dayly requisite Rhemist Heb. 10. sect 4. The councell of Trent holdeth them accursed that thinke all sinnes to be forgiuen fide Baptismi suscepti by faith of Baptisme receiued sess 7. can 10. Heereupon their saying ariseth that Baptismus est prima tabula post naufragium that Baptisme is the first boord of refuge after shipwracke Poenitentia est secunda tabula post naufragium penance is the second boord of refuge So that if a man do fall after Baptisme he must vse other helpes and meanes for the remission of sinnes for Baptisme is not auaileable for sinnes afterward committed Bellarm. cap. 18. Argum. It is impossible saith the Apostle for them that haue beene once lightened and tasted of the heauenly grace if they fall away to bee renewed by penance Heb. 6.6 that is they which fall away from faith and grace after Baptisme cannot be baptized againe or be illuminated or renouated by so easie a cleansing of sinnes as the Sacrament of Baptisme did yeeld Ergo Baptisme is not auaileable for remission of sinnes which men fall into afterward Bellarm. cap. 18. Ans. The Apostle speaketh not of this or that kinde of Repentance but generally of all shewing that there is no hope of remission nor grace to repent left for those which fall into the grieuous sinne of Apostasie which hee heere describeth for they crucifie againe the Sonne of God and make a mock of him ver 6. And that the Apostle vnderstandeth the sinne of Apostasie the sinne against the holy Ghost it appeareth by comparing that other place Heb. 10.29 with this for there they are said to tread vnder foote the sonne of God and to despite the spirit of grace The Apostle then cutteth off such from all hope of grace and repentaunce not onely barreth them from some speciall kinde of repentance The Protestants THe externall act of Baptisme neither wipeth away sinnes going before or comming after but it is the inward working of the spirite of God which by the vertue of Christs death testified and shewed forth in Baptisme that washeth away our sinnes And Baptisme is a seale of remission of sinnes for the confirmation of our faith euen of those which are committed after Baptisme as well as of sinnes done before and although the ceremonie of Baptisme be not repeated yet the vertue of Gods spirit testified thereby remaineth to our liues end Argum. 1. Mark 16.16 He that shall beleeue and be baptized shall bee saued Wee reason thus Baptisme is a seale of that faith whereby men are saued or to the which saluation is promised but that faith beleeueth remission of all sinnes both past and to come therefore Baptisme also sealeth vnto vs the remission of all our sinnes going before or following after Argum. 2. Baptisme is a signe and seale of our mysticall washing in the blood of Christ But all our sinnes both before and after are washed away by the blood of Christ Ergo Baptisme doth assure vs of a perfit remission of all our sinnes So saith Augustine Eodem lauacro regenerationis verbo sanctificationis omnia prorsus mala hominum regeneratorum sanantur etiam quae posterius humana ignorantia aut infirmitate committuntur By the same
works which were done of the heathen without faith and of carnal men before they are called how goodly soeuer they seeme in the sight of men are nothing els but peccata speciosa glorious and goodly sinnes Argum. Whatsoeuer is not of faith is sinne Rom. 14. And without faith it is impossible to please God Heb. 6.6 Seeing then they could not please God with their faithlesse workes they must needs be in danger of his wrath Augustine writeth thus Si ad consequendam beatam vitam quam nobis fides quae in Christo est promittit nihil prosunt homini virtutes nullo modo possunt verae esse virtutes If mens vertues helpe them not towards the attaining of eternall life which is promised onely by faith in Christ they cannot be said truely to be vertues but such are the workes of men before they haue faith Ergo if they be not vertuous actions what are they els but vicious and sinfull THE SECOND QVESTION CONCERNING the law with the seuerall partes thereof THe partes of this question are these First whether it be possible in this life to keepe the law Secondly whether iust men doe sinne Thirdly of the workes of supererogation Fourthly whether God be to be serued for hope of reward or feare of punishment Fiftly of the vse and office of the Law THE FIRST PART WHETHER IT BE possible in this life to keepe the Law The Papists 1. IF any man say that the precepts and commandements of God vnto a man error 66 iustified and in the state of grace are impossible to be kept let him be accursed Concil Trid. sess 6. can 18. Argum. Rom. 8.4 That the righteousnes of the Law might be fulfilled in vs Ergo the law of God by the grace of Christ may be kept and the keeping therof is our iustice S. Iohn also saith The commandements of God are not heauy 1. Ioh. 5.3 And our Sauiour saith His yoke is sweete and his burden light Ergo the commandements of God are possible to be fulfilled in this life The Protestants Ans. FIrst the Apostle saith not that the law is fulfilled by vs but in vs by Christ who is made our righteousnes and sanctification by faith 1. Cor. 1.30 The law remaineth still impossible to be kept by vs through the weakenes of our flesh neither doth God giue vs ability to keep it but Christ hath fulfilled it for vs we notwithstanding being bound to walke in obedience to the commandements of God which is farre off from perfection or keeping the law as Gods iustice requireth 2. To him that is borne of God and his sinnes pardoned by the grace of Christ the commandements of God are not grieuous not because they can perfitly be fulfilled but because strength is giuen to keepe them in part and the curse of the law is taken away and our transgressions answered in Christ. Argum. 1. If it were possible for any man to keepe the law it is possible in this life to be without sinne But if any man say he hath no sinne he is a liar 1. Ioh. 1.8 Argum. 2. S. Iames saith 2.10 If a man should keepe the whole law and yet faile in one point is guiltie of all He then that will keepe the law must keep it perfectly and not faile in the least point but so is no mortall man able to doe wherefore it is an horrible blasphemie to say that it is possible for any mortall man to keepe the whole law Augustine thus expoundeth that place Philip. 3.15 Let vs as many as be perfect be thus minded by the which place the Rhemists would proue a perfection of iustice in this life Potest quis esse perfectus iustitiae cognitor licet non sit perfectus effector A man may know the rule of iustice perfectly though he be not a perfect doer he vnderstandeth a perfection of knowledge not a perfection of iustice The Papists 2. THey say that those sinnes which they call veniall that is the lesser smaller error 67 offences doe not hinder the iustice of men but that they may truly be called and are indeede iust for all those sinnes and may notwithstanding them keepe the law of God and be free from the curse thereof which is laide vpon mortall and great sinnes not veniall and smaller offences Rhemist 1. Iohn 1. sect 5. Galath 3. sect 4. The Protestants THat men are iust before God for all their daily transgressions of frailetie and manifolde infirmities by the righteousnes of Christ made theirs by a liuely faith we deny not but that there is no perfect inherent iustice in themselues neither that they can perfectly keepe the law because of those sinnes thus we proue it out of the word of God Argu. They which doe but in the least point break the law are subiect to the curse thereof for it is written Cursed is he that continueth not in all things written in the law to doe them Galath 3.10 And what is to be vnderstoode by all things our Sauiour declareth Math. 5. where he sheweth how murder may be committed in the affection and in the tongue and adulterie likewise in the eye Ergo the smaller offences are also transgressions of the law from the which seeing the most righteous men vpon earth are not free they cannot perfectly keep the law nor by their own iustice escape the curse thereof Augustine Custodit vias Dei qui non sic exorbitat vt eas relinquat sed in eis currendo proficit et si aliquādo vt infirmus titubat proficit tamen minuēdo peccata He is saide to keepe the waies of God which doth not so turne aside out of them that he altogether leaue them but doth dayly profite and goe forward in keeping of them and although he sometime stumble yet he profiteth by diminishing of his sinnes As he therefore that stumbleth and is turned sometime out of the way doth not perfectly keepe the way no more doth the righteous man perfectly keepe the law of God which he transgresseth by his daily sinnes In isto ergo conflictu induimur ea iustitia qua ex fide viuitur In this conflict therefore let vs put on the righteousnes of faith he giueth counsell that men should leaue their own righteousnes and rather labour to liue by faith and be counted righteous in Christ. THE SECOND PART WHETHER iust men doe sinne The Papists error 68 1. A Iust man in his good workes doth not sinne so much as venially that is not in the least manner no not at all Concil Trident. sess 6. can 25. Whervpon it followeth that the good works of righteous men are so perfect that the least imperfection or blot cannot be found in them The Protestants THe most righteous men vpon earth haue not onely their infirmities and are in danger to sinne dayly but euen their best and most holy workes are blemished with some infirmitie and haue a smacke of sinne Argum. Iob saith If I wash my selfe with snowe
it may be enquired and it may either be safely found out or remaine hid and vnknowne to the faithfull Enchirid. 69. Augustine saith A faithfull man may safely be ignorant of Purgatorie The Papists error 12 2. THey say they onely goe to Purgatorie that dye in their veniall and light transgressions or which haue their sinnes remitted but not satisfied for the punishment Bellarm. lib. 2. de Purgat cap. 1. The Protestants FIrst we denye that any sinnes are of their owne nature veniall as they affirme for the wages of al sinne without the mercie of God is death Ro. 6.23 Secondly what equitie should there be in this that veniall sinnes should be punished with the hellish fire of Purgatorie that exceedeth al the afflictions of this life yea and a longer time then any man liueth vpon earth for the Pope taketh vpon him to pardon for thousands of yeeres and yet mortall and deadly sinnes as they call them may be satisfied for here where neither the penance can be so grieuous nor so long Thirdly the sinne once remitted there remaineth no punishment Mark 2.5 Christ saith to the sick of the palsie Thy sinnes are forgiuen thee and vers 10. That ye may knowe that the Sonne of man hath authoritie on earth to forgiue sinnes I say vnto thee arise take vp thy bed and walke The releasing him of the punishment of his bodie was a signe that his sinnes also were forgiuen and the sinne being remitted the punishment also ceaseth Wherefore who so leaueth the world without sinne is no more guiltie of any punishment The Papists 3. THe soules in Purgatorie doe neither sinne any more neither can they merite error 13 Ecclesiastes 9.5 The dead knowe nothing at all vers 10. there is neither worke knowledge nor wisedome in the graue Bellarm. cap. 2. The Protestants WE say that if there were any such place as Purgatorie the soules there tormented must needes both increase in charitie and righteousnes because the more they are purged the more pure they are and the lesse drosse is in them and being in vnspeakable torments they cannot choose but tremble and feare yea and also be disquieted in their soules as the Saints were sometime in their afflictions here vpon earth and therefore cannot be without sinne for feare hath painfulnes as the Apostle saith and he that feareth is not perfect in loue 1. Iohn 4.18 Ergo a seruile or slauish feare is sinne That place alleadged doth not onely take away meriting or working from the dead but all knowledge and vnderstanding And it is spoken in the person of the Epicure and sensuall man that thinketh that the dead knowe nothing The Papists 4. THey affirme that the soules in Purgatorie are certaine of their saluation in error 14 the midst of their torments for euery soule departed straight after death receiueth sentence of life or death Bellarm. cap. 4. The Protestants Ans. FIrst that euery soule is iudged presently after death we grant and it maketh strongly against your Purgatorie for the sentence giuen is either of death or life and the sentence being giuen is accordingly executed so that they which receiue sentence of life goe presently to heauen the other to hell For to what purpose els should the sentence be giuen if it be not straightwaies in force So S. Paul saith that they which looke to be clothed with their house from heauen shall not be left naked or vnclothed 2. Cor. 5.2 3 4. But if some soules ordained to life eternall should pause a while in Purgatorie being vnclothed of their flesh they should be left altogether naked hauing not yet receiued their clothing from heauen Secondly where there is securitie of saluation there is the greatest comfort ioy that can be how then can the soules in Purgatorie be so grieuouslie tormented which cannot be els where then in their conscience for as for the whipping scalding freezing of soules in Purgatorie they are but old wiues fables the ioy then of the soule is in the conscience so is the sorowe how then can both these be matched in the soule together to haue vnspeakable ioy as also to feele most horrible paine 5 In these poynts alreadie set downe our aduersaries we see are bold to define certainly of Purgatorie but there are as many poynts and somewhat more which they leaue in doubt and vncertaine First where Purgatorie should bee Bellarmine gesseth it is in the bowels of the earth next to hell cap. 6. so doe the Rhemists Luk. 16. sect 8. But they doe not all agree neither hath their Church defined it Secondly they cannot tell how many yeeres Purgatorie endureth whether an hundred or two hundred or thousands of yeeres Thirdly they can not tell certainly whether it be materiall fire which burneth in Purgatorie but they say it is probable Fourthly neither cā they shew how corporall fire should worke vpon the soules in Purgatorie being spirituall and incorporall Bellarmine cap. 12. Fiftly they are vncertaine whether the diuels or angels be the tormentors in Purgatorie cap. 13. Sixtly whether the paine of Purgatorie be at all time alike or by little and little slaked toward the end and whether it doe exceede all the paines and sorowes of this life they yet remaine vncertaine and are not able to determine Bellarm. lib. 2. de purgat cap. 14. Let vs leaue them therefore with their vncertainties and brainsicke phansies for the vaine inuentions and imaginations of men haue no end but are fitly by the Prophet cōpared to sparkles that leape out thick out of the fire but are soone extinguished Walk saith the Prophet in the light of your fire and sparkes that you haue kindled that is as the sparkes giue but a dimme light for a man to walke by he may stumble and grope about still for all that light euen so no maruaile if the Papists doe wander vp and downe in their imaginations walking by the light and sparkles of their phantasticall and mathematicall fire of Purgatorie THE THIRD PART WHETHER THE PRAIERS OF the liuing or any other workes of theirs doe profite the dead The Papists THeir opinion is that the praiers of the liuing are neither auailable for the Saints in heauen for they neede them not not for the damned in hell for they cannot be helped but onely for the soules tormented in Purgatorie who doe finde great ease say they by the praiers of the liuing and therfore we ought to pray for them Bellar. lib. 2. de purgator cap. 15.18 Rhemist annot 2. Thessal 2. sect 19. Argum. 1. Christ while he liued profited the dead for he raised to life the rulers daughter Math. 9. the widdowes sonne Luk. 7. and Lazarus which were dead therefore euen so the members of Christ ought one to helpe another the liuing the dead Bellarm. cap. 15. Ans. First is not here a strong argument thinke you Christ raised Lazarus and some others from death to life Ergo we ought to pray for the dead for it followeth
of a woman which was a sinner and more setteth foorth his power then otherwise lest he should be thought to haue deriued his puritie from his mother 2 They holde that there was no actuall sinne in the Virgin Marie no not the lest and smallest sinnes which they call venial Rhemist 1. Iohn 1. sect 5. She was especially protected and preserued from sinning by the grace of God Ans. That God is able clearely to rid his children from sinne to preserue them from falling thereinto we denie not but seeing you haue no scripture for this priuiledge that should be bestowed onely vpon Marie to be free from sin but rather the contrary is proued out of scripture That all haue sinned Rom. 3.23 it is too rash and bolde an assertion contrary to the will of God to ascribe any thing to his power He is as able to exempt all from sinning as one vnlesse therefore you can shew some especiall warrant out of Gods word for Maries freedome by your reason all the children of God shall bee freed from sinne as wel as Marie because God is able to doe it The Protestants THat the Virgin Marie was both conceiued in sinne and was also subiect to actuall sinnes in her life as other of the children of God thus out of the scripture we doe declare it 1 How els can the word of God be true that sayth All haue sinned Rom. 3.23 5.12 They will answere that Marie had an especiall priuiledge then let them shew it out of the word of God and we will beleeue otherwise the general conclusion must stand that all haue sinned Againe Marie her self in her song calleth Christ her Sauiour Luk. 1.47 Ergo she was a sinner for how els could she be saued from her sinnes which she had not If they answere as they doe that Christ was her Sauiour onely because hee preserued her from sinne Wee doe thus replie First that a Sauiour in scripture is defined to be he that saueth the people from their sinnes Math. 1.21 not that preserueth onely Secondly if Marie were free from originall sinne as they say she was she needed not a Sauiour to keep her from sinne for she might haue preserued herselfe Arg. 2 Marie dyed Ergo she was a sinner for sinne brought death into the world Rom. 1.5 If she had had no sinne she had not dyed Christ indeede though he were no sinner yet he bare our sinnes and therefore dyed for vs. Christ checked and rebuked his mother Iohn 2.4 Woman what haue I to doe with thee Ergo it seemeth she was not without fault Rhemist answere It was rather a doctrine to others to teach them not to do any thing for respect of kinred against reason then a reprehension to Mary Wee replie But I pray you how could the Apostles learne to beware of that fault if it had beene no fault in Marie How could they be admonished in her if she were not first her selfe admonished And the maner of speech sheweth it was a rebuke Christ saluting her by no other name then if he had spoken to any other woman Argum. 3. The Papists themselues are in a stagger and dare not constantly affirme that Marie was conceiued without sinne but put in this clause as many godly deuout men iudge Rhemist Rom. 5. sect 9. And Bellarmine sayth in maiori parte Ecclesiae piè credi that the greater part of the Church doth so godly beleeue yet he dare not determine vpon it himselfe de cult sanctor lib. 3. cap. 16. But why are they afrayd to holde it as an vndoubted trueth seeing Pope Sixtus hath clearely determined that it was so forbidding the Dominick Friers to preach the contrary and hereupon erected a new holy day of her conception Here then they are driuen to a great straight for either they must abolutely hold that she was not conceiued in sin agaynst the Master of sentences and Thom. Aquinas with other schoolemen or els holde the contrary and so confesse the Pope to haue been in error Augustine sayth beatior Maria percipiendo fidem Christi quà m concipiendo carnem Christi Materna propinquitas nihil Mariae profuisset nisi foeliciùs Christum corde quà m carne gestasset Marie was more happy in perceiuing the fayth of Christ then in conceiuing the flesh of Christ neither had it profited her to be the mother of Christ if she had not more happily borne him in her heart then she did in her wombe But what neede had Marie to beleeue in Christ if she had been pure from her natiuity and had no sinnes to be forgiuen her Augustine yet more playnly sayth Maria ex Adam mortua propter peccatum Adae Adam mortuus est propter peccatum caro domini ex Maria mortua est propter delenda peccata Marie dyed being borne of Adam because of the sinne of Adam Adam dyed because of his owne sinne Christ dyed in the flesh to take away our sinnes Ergo Marie by his sentence was borne in the sinne of Adam THE SECOND PART WHETHER Marie vowed Virginitie before the Annuntiation The Papists error 81 THey would gather and conclude so much out of the answere of Marie to the Angell who told her she should conceaue and beare a sonne How can this be sayth she seeing I know no man That is she plainly declareth she could haue no childe by knowing a man because of her vow for otherwise she needed not haue asked such a question how a woman might haue a sonne promised her if she had maried to haue carnal copulation Rhemist Luk. 1. sect 13. Bellarmin de Monachis cap. 22. Ans. First Ambrose maketh this to be the cause why Marie so answered she had read the prophesie of Esay that a virgin should conceiue bring forth a sonne and therefore knew very wel that this holy childe should be otherwise conceiued then by the knowledge or helpe of man Fulk ibid. Secondly as also the Angel deliuering at once his whole message and shewing what maner of childe it should be euen the Sonne of the most high who should sit on the throne of Dauid and of his kingdome there should be no end that is that the childe should be the Sonne of God she straightwayes conceiued that such a holy seede could not be borne of man and therefore asketh how without man he might be borne Sic Caluin Beza The Protestants THat Marie as she was an entire Virgin before the birth of Christ so that she continued also a Virgin all her life after we doe verily think and condemne their opinion that holde the contrarie but that she vowed or purposed Virginitie before the message of the Angel was brought vnto her it is rashly without scripture nay rather agaynst it affirmed Argum. 1. The text is playne that they had a purpose to consummate their mariage When as Marie was betrothed to Ioseph before they came together Math. 1.18 Ergo there was a meaning to come together if she
confer grace p. 416 2 Of the difference of the olde and new sacraments pag. 418 3 Of the character imprinted by the Sacraments pag. 419 4 Of the necessitie of the sacraments pag. 420 3 Of the number and order of the Sacraments 1 Of the number of them pag. 42◠2 Of their degrees amongst themselues pag. 424. The twelfth controuersie of the sacrament of Baptisme eight questions 1 Of the name and definition of Baptisme pag. 426 2 Of the partes that is the matter and forme of Baptisme pag. 427 3 Of the necessitie of Baptisme and whether baptisme may by any other way be supplied pag. 428 4 Whether women and lay men ought to baptise pag. 432 5 Of the baptisme of infants and whether they haue faith and of the baptizing of bels pag 434.436 6. Of the effectes of Baptisme 1 Whether our sinnes be cleane taken away in baptisme pag. 436 2 Whether baptisme be onely for sinnes past pag. 438 3 Of the priuiledges of Baptisme pag. 439 7. Of the difference between the baptisme of Christ and the baptisme of Iohn p. 441 8. Of the ceremonies and rites of baptisme pag. 442 The thirteenth controuersie of the Eucharist or Lords Supper two parts 1 part Of the sacrament it selfe 10. questions 1 Of the Real presence pag. 445 2 Of Transubstantiation pag. 455 3 Of the reseruation of the Sacrament pag. 459 4 Of the elements of bread and wine pag. 461 5 Of the words of consecration pag. 463 6 Of the proper effect of the Lords Supper pag. 465 7 Of the manner in receiuing the cōmunion whether it ought to be receiued fasting pag. 467 8 Of receiuing in one kinde pag. 468 9 Of the adoration of the Eucharist pag. 472 10 Whether the wicked receiue the body of Christ. pag. 473. 2. part Of the sacrifice of the Masse 8. quest 1 Of the diuers representations of the death of Christ. pag. 475 2 Of the sacrifice 1 The name of the Masse pag. 476 2 Of the sacrifice it selfe pag. 477 3 Of the name of priests pag. 481 3 Of the vertue and efficacie of the Masse pag. 483 4 For whom the Masse is auaileable pag. 484 5 Of priuate Masses pag. 485 6 Of the manner of saying Masse pag. 487 7 Of the idolatrous ceremonies of the Masse pag. 488 8 Of the forme which is the Canon of the Masse pag. 490 THE CONTENTS OF THE THIRD BOOKE The fourteenth controuersie of Penance nine questions 1 Of the name of penance pag. 501 2 Whether it be a Sacrament pag. 502 3 Whether any other sacrament of repentance beside baptisme pag. 504 4 Of the materiall partes of Baptisme 1 Of the matter and forme pag. 504 2 Of the three partes Contrition pag. 505. Confession pag. 505. Satisfaction pag. 505. 3 Whether repentance goe before faith pag. 506 5 Of Contrition pag. 507 6 Of Auricular confession pag. 510 7 Of Satisfaction 1 Whether the punishment remaine after the sinne is pardoned pag. 514 2 Whether a man may satisfie the wrath of God by his workes ibid. 3 Whether one man may satisfie for another pag. 516 8 Of penall iniunctions 1 Whether penall workes be necessary to repentance pag. 517 2 By whom they are to be enioyned pag. 518 3 Of pardons and indulgences pag. 519 9 Of the ceremonies and circumstances of Penance pag. 522 The fifteenth controuersie of Matrimony seuen questions 1 Whether Matrimonie be a sacrament pag 524 2 Of Diuorcement 1 Whether there be any other causes of diuorce beside fornication pag. 525 2 Whether mariage be lawfull after diuorcement for adulterie pag. 528 3 Of the degrees prohibited in mariage three partes 1 Of the supputation of degrees pag. 529 2 Whether any of the degrees prohibited in Moses law may be dispenced with pag. 531 3 Whether any other degrees by humane law may be prohibited pag. 533 4 Of the impediments of marriage pag. 535 5 Of the comparison between virginitie and the married estate pag. 536 6 Of the times of mariage prohibited pag. 537 7 Of the ceremonies of marriage pag. 539 The sixteenth controuersie three questions 1 Of Confirmation 1 Whether 〈◊〉 be a sacrament pag. 541 2 Of the matter and forme thereof pag. 542 3 Of the efficacie and vertue pag. 543 4 Of the rites and ceremonies pag. 544 2 Of Orders 1 Whether it be a Sacrament pag. 545 2 Of the efficacie pag. 547 3 Of the ceremonies pag. 548 3 Of extreame Vnction 1 Whether it be a Sacrament pag. 549 2 Of the vertue and efficacie pag. 550 3 Of the minister and the ceremonies pag. 551 The seuenteenth controuersie of the benefites of our redemption three partes 1 part Of Predestination 1 Of the reprobation of the wicked pag. 553 2 Our election free without respect to our workes pag. 555 3 Of the certaintie of predestination pag 556 2 part Of our Vocation 1 Of sinne 1 Of Originall sinne pag. 558 2 The difference of sinnes pag. 559 3 Of veniall sinnes pag. 560 4 Whether all sinnes be remissible pa. 561 5 God no author of sinne pag. 562 6 Of the works of the not regenerate 563 2 Of the law 5. parts 1 Whether it be possible in this life to keep the Laws pag. 564 2 Whether iust men doe sinne pag. 566 3 Of the works of supererogation p. 567 4 God not to be serued for feare pag. 568 5 Of the vse of the Law pag. 570 3. part Of iustification 1. Of freewil 1 Whether it be vtterly lost pag. 571 2 Of the power of free will in man Ibid. 2. Of Faith 1 What faith is pag. 576 2 Of the diuerse kindes of faith pag. 578 3 Charitie not the forme of iustifiyng faith pag. 579 4 How men are iustified by faith pag. 581 5 Whether faith be meritorious Ibid. 6 Whether faith be in mans power pag. 582 7 Whether it may be lost Ibid. 8 Whether wicked men haue faith pag. 583 3. Of good workes 1 Which be the good workes of Christians pag. 584 2 Whether there be any good workes without faith Ibid. 3 The vse of good workes 1 Whether they be applicatorie pag. 585 2 Expiatorie pag. 586 3 Meritorious Ibid. 4 Of the distinction of merites pag. 589 5 The manner of meriting pag. 590 4. Of Iustification 1 Of preparatiue works to iustification pag. 591 2 Of two kindes of iustification pag. 592 3 Of inherent iustice pag. 593 4 Of iustification onely by faith pag. 594 The 18. controuersie concerning the humanitie of Christ fiue questions 1 Of the vbiquitie or omnipresence of the bodie of Christ pag. 596 2 Whether Christ encreased in knowledge pag. 599 3 Of the manner of our Sauiours birth pag. 601 4 Whether Christ suffered in soule pag. 602 5 Whether Christ descended in soule to Hell to deliuer the Patriarkes pag. 605 6 Of the place of Hell pag. 607 The 19. controuersie concerning matters belonging to the diuine nature of Christ three questions 1 Whether Christ be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 God of
bodie to abstayne from hurtfull meates as likewise to keepe a temperate and sober dyet and to take heede of surfetting and drunkennesse These kindes of abstinence in making difference of meates wee mislike not but for pietie or religions sake to distinguish them it is to too great superstition The Papists FOurthly their religious kinde of fasting they holde not to bee a generall error 77 abstinence from all meates and drinkes but onely from some certaine kindes as from flesh and wine as Timothie refrayned from drinking of wine and in steade thereof vsed water 1. Timothie 5. verse 23. Rhemist The Protestants Ans. FIrst for chastising of the bodie it is lawfull to abstayne either wholly for a time or in respect of the quantitie or qualitie of the meates which may more prouoke carnall lusts not in the prohibition of the whole kind as the Papists doe of all flesh bee it neuer so grosse or small in quantitie Likewise it is lawfull for chastising of a mans body to abstaine from any kinde as of wine fruites spices flesh so that the vse of them be not forbidden as though in the very abstinence there were religion Fulk ibid. 2 But the true and properly religious fast of Christians is a generall abstinence from all meats and drinkes during the time of such fasting Esther 4.16 Nehemiah 9.4 Where the manner of their fast is described howe the lawe was read vnto them foure times in the day and as oft did they worship the Lord and confesse their sinnes It was the custome of the Church also in Augustines time in the dayes of fast not to abstaine onely from flesh or some certayne kinde of meate as the Papists vse but altogether to continue fasting till the eeuen Rogo vos fratres sayth he vt in isto sacratissimo tempore exceptis dieb dominicis nullus prandere praesumat I pray you brethren that in this holy time none of you presume to dine at all except it be vpon the Lords daies Ergo they that wil keepe a true religious fast if they are able ought for the time wholly to absteyne The Papists error 78 FIftly they erre in affirming fasting to be a meritorious worke Rhemist 1. Corinth 15. vers 32. Anna Tobie Iudith Esther serued and pleased God by fasting Annot. Math. 15. sect 3. The Protestants Ans. FIrst we doubt not but that fasting is a worke acceptable to God being referred to the right end as to chastise and humble the bodie 1. Corinthians 9.27 and to make our prayers more feruent 1. Corinthians 7.5 But otherwise there is no holinesse or vertue in fasting of it selfe neither is it by the worke wrought of any merite or worthines For our prayers which are a more principall worke then fasting is yet of themselues by any worthynes in them are not regarded of God for Salomon sayth When thou hearest haue mercie 1. King 8.30 It is of the Lords mercy that our prayers are heard not of any worthynes in them Augustine sayth very well Si volumus bene ieiunare à cibis ante omnia ieiunemus à vitijs Quid prodest pallidum esse ieiunijs si odio inuidia liuescas What doth it helpe to fast from meate if wee fast not from sinne What auayleth it to be pale and wan with fasting if thou frettest with hatred and enuie Ergo the externall or outward acte of fasting of it selfe is litle or nothing worth The Papists error 79 SIxtly and lastly they grieuously offend in their fastings in laying so straight and hard a yoke vppon mens shoulders as charging them vnder payne of damnation to keepe their fasting dayes making it deadly sinne yea heresie to transgresse them as one Laurence Staple was troubled and persecuted anno 1531. because in Lent hauing no fish hee did eate egges butter and cheese nay they were so cruell that hardly they suffered women in child-bed to haue flesh in their houses As anno 1532. two young Gyrles were constrayned to abiure because they were found vppon Saint Peters eeuen eating broth made of mutton their mother lying in childe-bed Howe was poore Frebarne tossed too and fro and brought into great daunger because a pigge was found in his house in Lent time for the which his wife longed The Protestants Ans. FIrst no positiue law not grounded vppon scripture can so binde any person that in the breaking of such hee shall sinne deadlie And of this sorte is the fast of Lent and other dayes for religion which were ordayned without authoritie of scripture Lambert ad articul 17. And seeing the rest of the Sabboth being the commaundement of GOD might yet vpon necessarie cause be broken as wee haue shewed how much greater libertie ought the people to haue had in the obseruation of those dayes which were onely inioyned by men for who seeth not that the rest in the Lords day being Gods owne appoyntment ought more surely to binde then fasting vpon forbidden dayes enforced by men yet was it counted an heynous sinne to eate flesh vpon a day interdict and a small offence or none to violate the rest of the Sabboth 2 Saint Paul could see no such necessitie of fasting and abstinence when hee willeth Timothie to drinke wine and no longer water for his infirmities sake 1. Timoth. 5.23 But if there were religion in fasting and abstinence it ought not to be intermitted for the bodily health for the lesse principall is to giue place to the greater In Augustines time also there was no such necessitie Qui ieiunare non praeualet in domo sua praeparet quod accipiat He that is not able to fast let him prepare in his house for his owne eating And agayne Si possibilitas non fuerit ieiunandi sufficit eleemosyna sine ieiunio If a man haue not possibilitie to fast in stead of fasting let him giue almes What is become now of your Lent and Imber fastes which you prescribe as necessary to be kept of all THE NINTH QVESTION CONcerning the Virgine Marie THis question standeth of many parts 1. Whether the B. Virgin Marie were conceiued without sin Secondly whether she vowed Virginitie before the Angel was sent vnto her Thirdly of the assumption of her body into heauen Fourthly of the dignitie and preeminence that shee hath as they affirme aboue all other Saints yea and the Angels to Fiftly of the merites of the virgin Marie and of the Aue Maria. THE FIRST PART WHETHER THE Virgin Marie were voyde of original and actuall sinne The Papists error 80 1 AL men are borne in sinne Christ onely excepted and his mother for his honor Rhemist Rom. 5. sect 9. Answ. it is no more dishonour for Christ to be borne of a sinner then to haue taken his flesh and lineally descended according to his humanity of Thamar that committed incest with Iuda and Rahab which was an harlot Math. 1.3.5 Secondly it maketh more for the honor of God that Christ was borne without sinne