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A15733 An ansvvere to a popish pamphlet, of late newly forbished, and the second time printed, entituled: Certaine articles, or forcible reasons discouering the palpable absurdities, and most notorious errors of the Protestants religion. By Anthony Wotton Wotton, Anthony, 1561?-1626.; Wright, Thomas, d. 1624. Certaine articles or forcible reasons. 1605 (1605) STC 26002; ESTC S120304 112,048 194

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by_o harken_v to_o the_o false_a prophecy_n of_o they_o who_o a_o lie_a spirit_n be_v to_o seduce_v go_v say_v god_n thou_o shall_v prevail_v and_o to_o come_v to_o your_o own_o example_n do_v not_o god_n intend_v &_o decree_n that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n shall_v be_v treacherous_o betray_v by_o judas_n false_o accuse_v by_o the_o priest_n unjust_o condemn_v by_o pilate_n if_o he_o do_v not_o certain_o determine_v these_o thing_n so_o that_o the_o even_o can_v not_o but_o ensue_v thereupon_o he_o do_v not_o certain_o provide_v for_o the_o salvation_n of_o his_o child_n because_o it_o may_v have_v come_v to_o pass_v that_o christ_n shall_v not_o have_v be_v betray_v
so_o without_o warrant_n from_o he_o in_o every_o matter_n contrary_a to_o he_o reveal_v commandment_n blasphemous_a therefore_o and_o not_o be_v think_v on_o by_o any_o christian_n much_o less_o utter_v be_v these_o consequent_n and_o especial_o the_o last_o of_o they_o which_o infer_v that_o god_n be_v worse_a than_o the_o devil_n because_o neither_o do_v god_n as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v impel_v or_o induce_v any_o man_n to_o sin_n and_o though_o he_o shall_v for_o cause_n know_v only_o to_o himself_o incline_v as_o austin_n say_v the_o heart_n of_o man_n to_o evil_a thing_n yet_o be_v it_o still_o blasphemous_a to_o deny_v the_o justice_n of_o his_o judgement_n whatsoever_o profane_a flesh_n and_o blood_n imagine_v o_o man_n 20._o rom._n 9_o 19_o 20._o what_o be_v thou_o that_o dispute_a with_o god_n shall_v the_o clay_n etc._n etc._n article_n 6._o papist_n that_o faith_n once_o have_v may_v be_v lose_v protestant_n this_o point_n it_o shall_v seem_v stick_v in_o this_o man_n 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from_o the_o sun_n and_o therefore_o if_o david_n kill_v urias_n lose_v his_o charity_n no_o doubt_n but_o therewithal_o he_o lose_v his_o faith_n the_o minor_a i_o prove_v for_o whosoever_o remain_v in_o death_n b._n b._n be_v without_o charity_n but_o david_n when_o he_o kill_v urias_n remain_v in_o death_n ergo_fw-la david_n when_o he_o kill_v urias_n be_v without_o charity_n if_o he_o be_v without_o that_o which_o once_o he_o have_v no_o doubt_n but_o than_o he_o lose_v it_o for_o he_o be_v deprive_v thereof_o for_o his_o sin_n the_o mayor_n proposition_n of_o this_o last_o syllogism_n thus_o i_o prove_v for_o charity_n be_v the_o life_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o it_o be_v as_o impossible_a for_o a_o man_n to_o have_v charity_n and_o remain_v in_o death_n as_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o a_o man_n to_o be_v dead_a in_o body_n and_o yet_o endue_v with_o a_o reasonable_a soul_n the_o minor_a can_v be_v deny_v to_o wit_n that_o david_n by_o kill_v urias_n remain_v in_o death_n for_o it_o be_v the_o express_a word_n of_o god_n qui_fw-la non_fw-la diligit_fw-la manet_fw-la in_o morte_fw-la he_o that_o lo●eth_v not_o his_o neighbour_n remain_v in_o death_n but_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o david_n love_v not_o urias_n when_o he_o kill_v he_o ergo_fw-la likewise_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o david_n remain_v in_o death_n the_o same_o position_n may_v easy_o be_v prove_v out_o of_o ezekiel_n 24._o ezech._n c._n 18._o ver_fw-la 24._o si_fw-mi autem_fw-la a●erterit_fw-la se_fw-la iustus_fw-la a_o iusticia_fw-la sva_fw-la etc._n etc._n protestant_n whosoever_o lose_v his_o charity_n lose_v his_o faith_n if_o by_o charity_n 10._o a._n rom._n 13._o 10._o you_o understand_v a_o absolute_a be_v without_o sanctification_n which_o be_v signify_v by_o charity_n because_o love_n be_v the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o law_n your_o proposition_n be_v true_a but_o your_o assumption_n be_v false_a if_o thereby_o you_o mean_v not_o perform_v some_o act_n of_o charity_n or_o do_v the_o contrary_a your_o proposition_n be_v false_a for_o not_o every_o one_o that_o fail_v in_o the_o performance_n of_o some_o duty_n of_o love_n or_o do_v some_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o love_n by_o such_o omission_n of_o good_a or_o commit_v of_o evil_n lose_v nor_o in_o deed_n may_v true_o be_v say_v to_o loose_v his_o charity_n though_o he_o sin_n against_o the_o law_n of_o charity_n in_o so_o do_v your_o proof_n be_v ground_v upon_o a_o misconceaving_a of_o the_o protestant_n principle_n which_o i_o expound_v in_o the_o 4._o article_n be_v of_o no_o force_n true_a faith_n such_o as_o we_o confess_v david_n be_v always_o after_o his_o call_n can_v no_o more_o be_v without_o love_n than_o the_o sun_n without_o light_n or_o the_o fire_n without_o heat_n but_o ●et_o he_o that_o have_v this_o faith_n and_o love_n may_v sometime_o neglect_v some_o duty_n of_o this_o love_n and_o do_v some_o work_n of_o hatred_n because_o his_o sanctification_n be_v unperfect_a his_o obedience_n also_o must_v needs_o be_v so_o but_o it_o neither_o fall_v out_o that_o such_o a_o man_n become_v again_o whole_o unregenerate_a by_o which_o mean_v only_o and_o by_o none_o other_o sanctification_n or_o love_n can_v be_v altogether_o lose_v but_o david_n when_o he_o kill_v urias_n lose_v his_o charity_n nay_o rather_o if_o charity_n can_v be_v lose_v he_o then_o lose_v it_o when_o he_o commit_v ●_o ●_o adultery_n unless_o we_o shall_v say_v that_o either_o adultery_n be_v not_o against_o charity_n or_o that_o murder_n only_o &_o not_o adultery_n procure_v a_o deprivation_n of_o charity_n but_o david_n do_v not_o loose_v his_o charity_n by_o either_o or_o both_o of_o they_o though_o in_o each_o he_o grevous_o sin_v against_o the_o love_n of_o his_o neighbour_n which_o for_o murder_v this_o man_n grant_v for_o adultery_n that_o parable_n that_o nathan_n bring_v prove_v undoubted_o whosoever_o remain_v in_o death_n be_v without_o charity_n namely_o 2._o 2._o sam._n 12._o 1._o 2._o so_o far_o as_o he_o be_v in_o death_n if_o he_o be_v altogether_o in_o death_n he_o be_v whole_o without_o charity_n but_o a_o man_n may_v in_o respect_n of_o some_o sinful_a action_n be_v in_o death_n and_o yet_o for_o all_o that_o be_v true_o sanctify_v though_o not_o thorough_o in_o regard_v whereof_o he_o may_v &_o must_v be_v take_v for_o a_o sanctify_a man_n as_o in_o truth_n he_o be_v howsoever_o he_o do_v some_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o grace_n of_o sanctification_n according_a to_o the_o lust_n of_o his_o natural_a corruption_n he_o that_o have_v some_o of_o his_o member_n dead_a as_o his_o hand_n or_o his_o foot_n in_o respect_n of_o these_o part_n be_v dead_a and_o yet_o may_v be_v alive_a in_o all_o the_o other_o how_o much_o more_o may_v he_o then_o be_v true_o say_v to_o have_v live_v charity_n in_o he_o which_o fail_v in_o some_o one_o duty_n and_o that_o but_o of_o one_o part_n for_o a_o time_n bring_v forth_o notwithstanding_o many_o fruit_n of_o love_n even_o of_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o which_o that_o sin_n against_o love_n be_v what_o need_v any_o further_a answer_n to_o your_o proof_n then_o have_v already_o be_v give_v for_o in_o deed_n it_o be_v of_o no_o force_n unless_o that_o be_v grant_v which_o be_v the_o question_n that_o every_o act_n contrary_a to_o love_v draw_v love_n out_o of_o the_o soul_n so_o that_o a_o man_n thereby_o ceass_n to_o have_v any_o part_n of_o regeneration_n in_o h●m_n and_o this_o answer_n be_v sufficient_a though_o charity_n be_v in_o deed_n the_o life_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o be_v but_o a_o idle_a popish_a fancy_n or_o rather_o a_o sudden_a conceit_n of_o this_o quick_a disputer_n 17._o rom._n 1._o 17._o if_o there_o be_v any_o other_o life_n of_o the_o soul_n than_o god_n sure_o it_o be_v faith_n rather_o than_o love_v by_o which_o the_o righteous_a man_n live_v be_v it_o not_o enough_o for_o our_o papist_n to_o make_v love_n the_o form_n of_o faith_n but_o that_o they_o must_v have_v it_o also_o the_o life_n of_o the_o soul_n david_n when_o he_o kill_v urias_n remain_v in_o death_n in_o respect_n of_o that_o sin_n yet_o be_v he_o translate_v from_o death_n to_o life_n by_o believe_v in_o the_o messiah_n to_o come_v and_o according_o bring_v forth_o the_o fruit_n of_o sanctification_n in_o obey_v both_o the_o other_o commandment_n and_o that_o also_o o●_n not_o kil●ing_v which_o by_o the_o murder_n o●_n urias_n he_o break_v so_o tha●_n the_o proof_n which_o follow_v be_v unsufficient_a because_o that_o david_n can_v not_o be_v charge_v simple_o with_o the_o want_n of_o love_n though_o he_o do_v not_o love_n urias_n in_o that_o action_n which_o yet_o proceed_v not_o somuch_o from_o the_o ha●red_a of_o his_o person_n as_o from_o david_n fear_n to_o have_v his_o former_a sin_n
sin_v most_o greevous_o in_o ask_v god_n pardon_n for_o they_o but_o all_o true_a protestant_n be_v assure_v by_o faith_n that_o their_o sin_n be_v forgive_v they_o ergo_fw-la all_o true_a protestant_n sin_v grievous_o in_o ask_v pardon_n of_o god_n for_o they_o protestant_n the_o principal_a syllogism_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o article_n omit_v i_o know_v not_o upon_o what_o reason_n by_o this_o author_n be_v thus_o to_o be_v conclude_v whosoever_o sin_n greevous_o in_o ask_v god_n forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n never_o to_o ask_v he_o forgiveness_n but_o the_o protestant_n sin_n greevous_o in_o ask_v god_n forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n therefore_o the_o protestant_n be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n never_o to_o ask_v god_n forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n the_o assumption_n of_o this_o syllogism_n he_o prove_v thus_o papist_n whosoever_o be_v assure_v by_o faith_n that_o his_o sin_n be_v forgive_v sin_n greevous_o in_o ask_v god_n pardon_v for_o they_o but_o all_o true_a protestant_n be_v assure_v by_o faith_n that_o their_o sin_n be_v forgive_v they_o therefore_o all_o true_a protestant_n sin_v greevous_o in_o ask_v god_n forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n protestant_n that_o the_o proposition_n be_v false_a it_o appear_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o 2._o psal_n 32._o 1._o &_o 51._o 1._o 2._o david_n who_o pray_v to_o god_n for_o the_o pardon_n of_o that_o sin_n which_o he_o believe_v by_o faith_n be_v forgive_v for_o so_o be_v he_o assure_v 13._o 2._o sam._n 12._o 13._o before_o from_o the_o lord_n by_o the_o prophet_n nathan_n papist_n if_o none_o but_o a_o infidel_n or_o a_o mad_a man_n will_v demand_v of_o god_n the_o creation_n of_o the_o world_n or_o christ_n incarnation_n or_o the_o institution_n of_o sacrament_n which_o already_o be_v effect_v than_o none_o but_o such_o a_o one_o will_v ask_v of_o god_n pardon_v for_o his_o sin_n be_v assure_v by_o faith_n that_o they_o be_v forgive_v he_o but_o none_o but_o a_o infidel_n or_o a_o mad_a man_n will_v demand_v of_o god_n the_o creation_n of_o the_o world_n or_o christ_n incarnation_n or_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o sacrament_n therefore_o none_o but_o a_o mad_a man_n or_o a_o infidel_n will_v ask_v of_o god_n pardon_n for_o his_o sin_n be_v assure_v by_o faith_n they_o be_v already_o forgive_v they_o protestant_n i_o deny_v your_o consequence_n because_o it_o presume_v of_o a_o equality_n where_o there_o be_v none_o for_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v the_o late_a with_o so_o great_a assurance_n as_o the_o former_a beside_o we_o have_v a_o commandment_n for_o the_o latter_a but_o not_o for_o the_o former_a papist_n whosoever_o demand_n that_o which_o he_o hope_v not_o to_o obtain_v synn_v grevous_o by_o demand_v it_o but_o whosoever_o be_v assure_v by_o faith_n that_o his_o sin_n be_v forgive_v he_o in_o ask_v pardon_n demand_n that_o which_o he_o have_v no_o hope_n to_o obtain_v therefore_o whosoever_o be_v assure_v by_o faith_n that_o his_o sin_n be_v forgive_v he_o sin_n greevous_o in_o ask_v pardon_n for_o they_o protestant_n i_o deny_v your_o proposition_n for_o he_o only_a sin_n greevous_o in_o pray_v for_o that_o he_o possess_v who_o believe_v certain_o that_o he_o do_v possess_v that_o he_o pray_v for_o not_o he_o which_o have_v some_o true_a persuasion_n have_v also_o some_o doubt_n withal_o neither_o be_v the_o assumption_n true_a because_o with_o the_o assurance_n there_o be_v some_o doubt_n even_o in_o those_o that_o believe_v true_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n the_o doubt_n be_v sin_n but_o the_o ask_n pardon_n because_o of_o this_o doubt_n be_v no_o sin_n the_o protestant_n do_v not_o teach_v that_o all_o christian_n have_v this_o absolute_a assurance_n but_o that_o they_o ought_v to_o labour_v for_o it_o upon_o this_o reason_n he_o gather_v this_o conclusion_n papist_n he_o that_o can_v without_o note_v of_o infidelity_n ask_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n can_v with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n say_v the_o lord_n prayer_n but_o no_o protestant_n can_v without_o note_n of_o infidelity_n ask_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n therefore_o no_o protestant_a can_v with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n say_v the_o lord_n prayer_n protestant_n if_o by_o note_n of_o infidelity_n you_o mean_v sin_v by_o weakness_n of_o faith_n your_o proposition_n be_v false_a for_o a_o man_n that_o doubt_v of_o pardon_n may_v crave_v it_o without_o sin_n though_o he_o can_v doubt_v without_o sin_n if_o by_o it_o you_o understand_v be_v a_o infidel_n because_o of_o ask_v that_o which_o he_o be_v sure_a he_o have_v your_o assumption_n be_v false_a for_o a_o true_a protestant_n be_v not_o a_o infidel_n by_o such_o doubt_n though_o he_o shall_v not_o doubt_v article_n 2._o papist_n the_o protestant_n be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n ●●_o avoid_v all_o good_a work_n every_o man_n be_v bind_v upon_o pain_n of_o eternal_a damnation_n to_o avoid_v all_o deadly_a sin_n but_o fast_v prayer_n allmesdeed_n and_o all_o good_a work_n according_a to_o 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