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A79883 Ministers dues and peoples duty; or A bill of accounts between ministers and people: shewing vvhat people owe unto their ministers; which may also serve to mind ministers, what they are to expect from their people. By Sam. Clark M.A. sometimes fellow of Pembroke-Hall in Cambridg, and now minister of Grendon Under-wood in Buckinghamshire. Clark, Samuel, 1626-1701.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1661 (1661) Wing C4494; Thomason E1057_4; ESTC R204352 37,580 60

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10.6_o and_o that_o in_o a_o high_a way_n and_o with_o great_a punishment_n than_o any_o magistrate_n on_o earth_n can_v inflict_v for_o all_o punishment_n inflict_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v but_o outward_a either_o upon_o the_o person_n body_n or_o estate_n 49.20_o psal_n 49.20_o or_o both_o but_o the_o punishment_n infligible_a by_o the_o minister_n or_o ecclesiastical_a magistrate_n be_v spiritual_a and_o reach_n to_o the_o soul_n so_o that_o by_o how_o much_o the_o soul_n be_v more_o valuable_a than_o the_o body_n or_o estate_n by_o so_o much_o be_v the_o punishment_n infligible_a by_o the_o minister_n more_o terrible_a and_o dreadful_a than_o any_o can_v be_v inflict_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n although_o it_o be_v true_a because_o man_n do_v so_o much_o obbrutescere_fw-la and_o become_v like_o the_o beast_n that_o perish_v and_o be_v lead_v so_o much_o by_o sense_n thence_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o they_o be_v more_o affect_v with_o corporal_a then_o spiritual_a punishment_n and_o more_o fear_v the_o death_n of_o the_o body_n than_o the_o damnation_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o consequent_o stand_v more_o in_o awe_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n then_o of_o the_o law_n of_o god_n yet_o in_o itself_o the_o spiritual_a punishment_n be_v incomparable_o the_o great_a and_o consequent_o there_o be_v incomparable_o a_o 560._o a_o quod_fw-la si_fw-la homines_fw-la reputarent_fw-la metuerent_fw-la sibi_fw-la plus_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la censuris_fw-la quàm_fw-la à_fw-la gladio_fw-la &_o virgis_fw-la reipubl_n cùm_fw-la ministri_fw-la habent_fw-la potestatem_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la &_o necis_fw-la aeternae_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la omnibus_fw-la vel_fw-la ad_fw-la vitam_fw-la vel_fw-la ad_fw-la mortem_fw-la sententiam_fw-la ferant_fw-la si_fw-la è_fw-la terrâ_fw-la exigere_fw-la &_o exturbare_fw-la sit_fw-la magnum_fw-la quanto_fw-la magis_fw-la expellere_fw-la è_fw-la caelum_fw-la si_fw-mi è_fw-it collegio_fw-la vestro_fw-la civem_fw-la movere_fw-la quanto_fw-la magis_fw-la è_fw-la coetu_fw-la &_o collegio_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la aliquem_fw-la excludere_fw-la posse_fw-la cartwr_n harm_n p._n 560._o strong_a obligation_n lie_v upon_o person_n to_o obey_v the_o command_n of_o god_n and_o his_o officer_n i._n e._n minister_n than_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n and_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n because_o i_o say_v the_o soul_n be_v concern_v in_o the_o punishment_n inflict_v by_o the_o minister_n now_o it_o reach_v to_o the_o soul_n inasmuch_o as_o while_o person_n lie_v under_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n due_o inflict_v they_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o damnation_n as_o far_o as_o man_n can_v judge_n of_o they_o because_o their_o sin_n be_v unpardoned_a joh._n 28.23_o who_o soever_o sin_n you_o retain_v they_o be_v retain_v and_o without_o pardon_n no_o blessedness_n psal_n 32.1_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v shut_v against_o they_o b._n they_o portam_fw-la coeli_fw-la ei_fw-la occlusam_fw-la iri_fw-la 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