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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A67846	Three contending brethren, Mr. Williams, Mr. Lob, Mr. Alsop, reconcil'd, and made friends by an occasional conference with three notorious hereticks, Mr. Humphreys, Mr. Clark, Dr. Crisp. By Calvin Anti-Crispian.	Trepidantium Malleus.	1698 (1698)	Wing Y88B; ESTC R221091	18,673	24

holy walkings by reason of our sins and sighing up unto Christ for help are by the power of God's Imputation so clothed with the Wedding-garment of Christ 's own perfect Righteousness that of unjust we are made just before God that is all our sins are utterly abolish'd out of God's sight and we are made from all spot of sin perfectly holy and righteous in the sight of God freely Mr. L. We are well satisfied you need say no more you are not in the number of those Hereticks we now censure I hope you drove not at this That men should never have any sadness for sin c. Mr. E. I should be glad Gentlemen of your good company at another time Mr. W. And we of yours Mr. Eaton Mr. L. Dr. Crisp what say you to all this Dr. C. One thing I am sure I shall not want Followers for all this for if all Wise men leave me there are Fools enough to follow me ay Preachers too a D. and J. are to be found in all places Mr. A. I will not say pares cum paribus Dr. C. Stop I tell you you will never give over your Buffoonry It was a great trouble of mind to your Brother Hugh Peters as he tells us in his honest Legacy to his Daughter where he saith I wish I had not been vain in a vain World And tho' he says Not three men ever dealt with him in a serious way about it you cannot say so It is said of some when they are in the Pulpit It is pity they should ever come out others That when they are out it is pity they should ever come in you Sir however are accounted a good man that is to say in a Pulpit Mr. A. I cannot endure to be reflected on for being good only in a Pulpit by them that are not good out of it nor there neither Did I ever play in the Pulpit as you on your own confessions and others know much worse H. Peters play'd with Divinity it self too often tho' I have reason to hope he was a good man I only with a D. of Divinity that is to say he with holy things I with prophane However I remember what good Moniea got by a chiding word of an angry Gossip Aug. Confes Mr. L. A little of this is too much We even beseech you Dr. Crisp Answer us plainly to a few Questions the Company desire it Dr. C. Gentlemen I will seeing you ask me so civilly only I desire you to keep that Alsop quiet it it be possible Nr. L. I pray of what Communion or Party were you Dr. C. Had I thought that had been one of the Questions I would not have make you such a Promisse for not one to a hundred of my Ignoramus's know I tell you of the Church of England and so was Mr. Toune who glories in his Book that he was no Separatist and Mr. Eaton was of the same Party and yet most think I was some great Dissenter a kind of Independent Mr. L. Must the Independents have your Bastardly Brats and Heretical Doctrines laid at their Doors All such Weeds grow in your Church Socinianism Arminianism Antinomianism Deism and what not and yet the Independents forsooth must be charged with your mad Notions Some of your Followers will not confess Sin nor beg Pardon was this your Practice Dr. C. No how could I when clothed with a Surplice under a black Gown as an Emblem of the Justification of an unchanged unsanctified Sinner and when the Common-prayer-book was in my hand how could I read the Confession what without Confession the Absolution the Litany or other good Prayers of the Church Mr. L. Then you made Confession of Sin politickly if not conscientiously thank your fat Benefice your Tyth-corn and Tyth-pigs that hung in your Teeth I wonder the Letany had not choak'd you and other Prayers Can you say nothing for your Followers contrary Practice Dr. C. Yes yes for if all Sins past present and to come be at once forgiven which I call in my Book the Doctrine of all Protestants they say what need then of Confession and begging pardon Mr. L. And yet you have said That all sins were forgiven from Eternity is this Protestanism Let the Proposition of all Sins pardoned together tho it seems hard to say a Sin is actually pardoned before it is actually committed let it be how it will yet such a wild consequence can never follow Dr. C. Some good Christians and Exalters of Christ alone are satisfied to pray for manifestative pardon so it be done seldom and sparingly tho some of the Godly be not so Mr. L. David was assur'd of Pardon from God by Nathan when he was humbled and confessed have sinn'd The Lord hath pardon'd thy sin saith Nathan Yet after all this David perm'd this Psalm of Psalms the Penitential Psalm and 1. prays blot out my iniquity 2. sorrows my sin is ever before me 3. confesseth agairst thee thee only have I sinn'd Besides Christ taught them to whom God was a Father to pray daily Forgive us our Trespasses What Trespasses all or some if some which I say all Job was an upright man and yet says Thou writest bitter things against me and mak'st me possess the sins of my Youth Judgments came on the Land for the Sins of Manassah which the Lord as is said would not pardon yet he was then in Heaven I hope you mistake me not consider the Text and my Design Gods Command is sufficient and he will this way make us to keep up the sense of sin our desert of damnation and wrath his infinite goodness to pardon c. But to pass to another thing you talkt so much of purity of Doctrine how came it to pass you minded no more purity of Discipline in that Church You read Prayers of other mens making you added an additional Humane Sacrament to one of Divine appointment the Cross in Baptism is not the Cross made a Tessara or Symbol or Livery as well as Baptism by which you dedicated Children to a dying Saviour Dr. C. You know Mr. L. I am no distinguisher but yet I have heard some men distinguish between an immediate and proper and an improper and declarative Dedication I hate your Discipline as much as did the old Puritans my Doctrine Mr. L. Would you not think it Sawciness or worse for a Subject to prescribe what badges or marks of subjection or office such and such should wear who were thus to be order'd by the King Dr. C. May not the Church appoint sacred Rights as well as the Primitive Christians their Love-Feasts Mr. L. I might invite all my Communicants to Dinner after the Lords Supper and all but a civil custom if in some Parishes Dr. C. But the Use of the Cross is ancient Mr. L. Not in Baptism Why use you it not often as the Papist do if so useful spit on the Child put a Taper in his hand as they do and give Significations

more till he be well answer'd Indeed there was a story that one man had it from his Maid that said she had it from Mr. Williams's Maid who said she had it from her Mistress that Mr. Williams dropp'd an unsavory Joke tho' the Maid by the way denied it on Oath had it been true as it was false Let the Defamers consider if all their unsavory Jokes or other sins were written on the Palms of their Hands would they not be asham'd to take off their Gloves even at Meal times Dr. C. He wrote against me and that was Crime enough tho' I brought Scripture for every thing I said Mr. W. So did the Devil 4 Mat. You prove things by Scripture as he that found fault with the Sign of the King or Queen c. and urged that place of Scripture A wicked and adulterous Generation seeketh a Sign but no Sign shall be given to them but the Sign of the Prophet Jonah and therefore once seeing Jonah in a Sign said that was lawful I also remember about twenty year since preaching in a Parish-Church without Conformity by the way I reproved a Country Farmer for sleeping whilst I was preaching the ignorant man replied He had been a long Journey and was come home weary and Christ said Come unto me all you that are weary and are heavy laden and I will give you rest So odly Mr. D. have you applied many Scriptures and that in particular Is it come to this that when we tell your People that talk of their breaking the Law because Christ kept it Tell us roundly what have we to do with the Law Dr. C. Say what you will Mr. W. one that animadverted on the Reliquiae tells what you and such as you are that Book pleas'd my Followers to the Heart Mr. W. He there told what you were with your abominable Phrases and Doctrine p. 11 of Justif and I have heard him say That if he thought that Book did your Cause any service he should wish his Pen split to the head when he wrote it but he believed no such thing His Discourse of Justification there on a new bottom I confess for which he had no President differs toto coelo from your Doctrine of Justification without Faith Modesty forbids me to tell you what a florid Encomium he gave me p. 175 177. when he stigmatiz'd you yet some of your Creatures here say he then wrote for you and against me and since for me and against you when it is evident there is no discord in the Vindiciae and Apology in this respect He and we all wonder how you came to imploy such a bad man to plead your Cause as a late Tradesman turning a Speaker Dr. C. Bad do you call him that was before his Conversion Mr. A. Conversion man I can easily prove on his own Confession he is no Convert Dr. C. How so Mr. A. He that says he never was troubled for Sin is no Penitent you had as good talk of an impenitent Penitent He that is no Peniteut is no Convert you had as good talk of an unconverted Convert He is one of Crisp's Believers not Christ's Converts Dr. C. Troubled for Sin Heaven forbid I hope he never will be such a Legalist being so famous a Preacher of Free Grace Mr. L. Why was not David troubled for his Sin Was it not a heavy burden to him Dr. C. Read the 298th 299th and 300th Pages and you have my Answer to the full I prove plainly that seeing our Sin is transferred from us to Christ if ever Sin be laid home it is so by Satan That David sinn'd or had it been lawful it cannot be to us now since the great Sacrifice is offer'd up Before the offering of Sacrifice then if it were lawful it was not so after Mr. L. What Sacrifice was there for Murther or Adultery under the Law Therefore saith David I would have offer'd Sacrifice Psal 51.16 but the Sacrifices of God are a broken Spirit You make it a Sacrifice for the Devil Mr. Doctor A broken and a contrite heart O God thou wilt not despise Where by a Meiosis more is meant than is express'd Thou wilt greatly delight in but you make sport of it The bones says David thou hast broken may rejoice but according to you the Devil broke 'em not God To be plain Mr. Williams and Mr. Edwards dealt too tenderly with you almost to a fault and that in this particular I tell you you are fitter to preach out of a Cage or Grate than preach out of a Pulpit such damnable Doctrine you put out the Eye of Repentance this alone proves you a notorious Heretick Notwithstanding some say you spoke of Sadness leading to Despair c. did David then lie in your way Any thing They are three cursed pages Mr. W. Pray Dr. hear me Dr. C. No I care not to hear any Baxterian of you all Mr. W. Strange Mr. Humphreys just now censur'd me for being not a Baxterian and you for being one what shall I do Mr. A. Will you hear me then Dr. C. No that I will not You once wish'd you had Windows in your Breast that the late Popish Tyrant might see your Loyalty I heard a Tory then say He wish'd he had the making them being a Surgeon he would have made them of a large size And the late Prefacer tells what you are Mr. A. Mr. Williams hath answer'd for me I care not for the Censure of that late Plotter of whom the ejected King gave order That Care might be taken of him that he might want nothing In a late Traytorous Book he chargeth King W. to have Testimonials by him of his being reconcil'd to the Church of Rome And I think among my Accusers there is none of them worth a hanging but he he is I confess a man of parts would he had been so too who answer'd Melius inquirendum Dr. C. You are reputed to be a second Hugh Peters or Daniel Burgis who have made their pulpits Stages and themselves as Theological Mountebanks read your Sermon about Wowens Dresses when so many Ministers pull'd their Hats over their Faces to hear you Mr. L. Mr. Alsop is a graver man in the pulpit than you half the Stories of D. B. are Fables as the Story of the Cloak and how he lost Sixty pound a Year for Christ c. yet I wish him more Gravity with his Zeal Dr. C. I pray have a little patience and I will give you some account of my censur'd Book Mr. A. I doubt a little Patience will not serve the turn we had need have a great deal to hear such woful stuff which to hear contentedly some would think Stupidity not Patience Dr. C. I will do it say what you will my Son tells the World to the Crispian Reader for so it should have been instead of Christian That he hath written about 5200 Sermons after Dr. Owen and other famous Divines and that not six Sermons